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The Bears Den: August 30, 2010

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...where perceptions vary, but the obvious is unavoidable.

A quick recap of the Super Bowl Bears reunion at Ditka's Golf Classic

The team's official site says that there is plenty of time to improve.

Brad Biggs says that time is running out to improve.

Biggs also looks at how the roster cuts might get started.

Early indications are that LB Briggs won't miss season opener.

Dan Pompei breaks down the film from Saturday's game.

John "Moon" Mullin offers his latest insights on CSNChicago.

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Must read: PFF looks at the Bears-Raiders game.

David Haugh has a less-than-optimistic approach to what he's seen.

USA Today's most recent Team Report.

Neil Hayes says that we don't need to panic.  Okay.

Kevin Seifert breaks down Week 3 of the preseason for the NFCN.

Hyperbole much? My least-favorite article today, on drawing baseless conclusions.

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Lovie say's...

“in a couple of weeks they let us start over”, brilliant man! Don’t you think you should maybe not wait a couple weeks? Got some serious “bonein’ up” to do bub, if you can get done in a couple weeks what you couldn’t the last couple of years, I’ll jump off the “It’s not to late to fire Lovie bandwagon”. I’m not seein’ any lumps or bumps anytime soon though.

"most football players are temperamental, thats 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental" Doug Plank

by fin4bears on Aug 30, 2010 9:13 AM CDT reply actions  

We had two weeks to prepare for the Atlanta game last year,

thanks to the Bye.

Two friggin weeks, and we were completely unprepared for the Falcons offense.

by Dane Noble on Aug 30, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Which sadly shocked no one how unprepared we were.

Remember we break the regular season down in quarters, so right now we’re 0-0 going in so we should be alright. It’s not a sprint it’s a marathon. Rex Grossman is our Quarterback, we get off the bus running. Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall.

David Taylor's personal hype man. Check out his website unless you're a loser. http://www.cheekymonkeyart.com/

by Ditkavsworld on Aug 30, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

And all Lovie's horses

and all Lovie’s men, couldn’t put Jay Cutler together again.

by Steven Schweickert on Aug 30, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do you think that Lovie is counting on the 18-game season coming about

and he might get 2 bye weeks? Maybe he can get the league to put our 2 bye weeks together so he can 3 weeks to totally botch a game plan.

by BearFan611 on Aug 30, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Case in point:

Falcons send trips right. Roach was in for Pisa who had left the game with season ending knee injury. Two Bears DB’s covering three guys and Roach was late to react. I think I remember it being a WR screen to R. White for a TD.

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Aug 30, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Since I'm likely to be...

driving the bandwagon, I’ll bring the drinks!

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Aug 30, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, I do remember,

I don’t know man, unless Maranelli is playing cutesie and laying in the weeds type of thing, only hope will be the offense somehow coming alive and becoming that scoreing machine they keep refering to and just keep puttin’ up points to try and outlast ’em.

"most football players are temperamental, thats 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental" Doug Plank

by fin4bears on Aug 30, 2010 9:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Vanilla

The “d was playing vanilla” and I’m not sure it will change. Lovie and the Bears refused to get a real DC, so what is there convincing everyone that it is by choice we play that way? Lovie’s scheming was a failure last year and now we have a DL coach to “save” and “reinvent” this D?

Something tells me it is more like this

But “it’s only the preseason” and “we didn’t plan for this game” etc. etc.

by TheMan1 on Aug 30, 2010 9:50 AM CDT reply actions  

"OTHER BEARS NOTES Desmond Clark probably isn’t a viable long-snapping stand-in."

Wow. just….wow. That is some insightful analysis, right there. My eight year old was yelling at Clark through the TV against Oakland. (And he knew that it wasn’t Mannelly before the moronic Raiders analysts did, too……)

Talk about stating the obvious…..

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 30, 2010 9:52 AM CDT reply actions  

The force is strong in that one.......

All my kids are Bears fans (imagine that) but that one is almost as fanatical as his daddy.

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 30, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

So did we or did we not game plan for the Arizona game?

All I heard before the game started was, Lovie treated this game like it was the reg. season. He game planned, he held players meetings, he had his set schedules, etc….

But now, I’m reading they didn’t game plan and that this was a glorified practice. Which is it guys?

For an organization, it seems unorganized…

by rdent4hof on Aug 30, 2010 10:10 AM CDT reply actions  

As many times as we heard "we were just not prepared" last year

Maybe he did treat it just like a real game.

I get what you’re saying though

by TheMan1 on Aug 30, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

So one of 2 things are possible...

1. Lovie didn’t game plan and lied about doing it.
2. Lovie did game plan and we saw the results.

Is either scenario acceptable??

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Aug 30, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Third option:

Said they would, they played like… that, and had to make an excuse.

Fourth option, drinking.

by Steven Schweickert on Aug 30, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I covered the fourth option by myself...

that cannot be true!

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Aug 30, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

The fourth option...

Can be applied to us as well as to Lovie’s pregame ritual.

by Steven Schweickert on Aug 30, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haugh
It’s OK if Cutler isn’t the best quarterback on the field if the guy outplaying him is Tony Romo or Brett Favre or Aaron Rodgers. When it’s Derek Anderson, you give thanks there’s a baseball pennant race to keep Chicago’s interest until hockey season.

We’ve all been waiting for him to play like a good QB, not a below average one.

"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.

by propheteer on Aug 30, 2010 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

From Isaacson article:
If this is the honeymoon, this could be a rocky union.

I liken this season to a bride’s nightie: up and down.

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Aug 30, 2010 11:21 AM CDT reply actions  

I liken it more to marriage after the honeymoon...

I got you to “the promised land” once, you’re never gonna see it again!!!!

by BearFan611 on Aug 30, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haugh made a good point though.

We do have 2 good backs and with BM blocking along with the O-line we should start off with the running game a bit more to set up the play action. It just doesn’t look like the offense is on the same page for the greatest show on grass version 1.0.

by Chitownproduct on Aug 30, 2010 12:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Most of these articles

sound as if the team is already 0-3 or something. I’m not trying to dismiss the obvious deficiencies so far, but let’s see if they can right the ship in time for the Lions.

"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.

by propheteer on Aug 30, 2010 12:35 PM CDT reply actions  

if they didn't look so awful

at nearly every facet of the game I don’t think there would be this alarmist mentality. The team just looks like they’re going through the motions right now. I know it’s preseason and based on Lovie’s comments it doesn’t really seem like they give a crap if they lose by 9 or 90 at this point.

it’s just that the poor execution on a variety of levels is concerning because other teams (well most other teams) are tightening up right about now, whereas it looks the Bears are just lost out there with the exception of a couple of big plays.

by junkhorse on Aug 30, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Charles Tillman,

per Zaidman’s Twitter:

“I think a lot of the time people don’t know what they’re talking about, as far as when they look at teams and they try to dissect the defense. Everyone seems to be a critic and know the Cover-2. Everyone in the league runs Cover-2. There’s always this, ‘Why do they run so much Cover-2, why do they do, you know?’ Everyone in the league runs some form of Cover-2. All 32 teams run Cover-2.”

by Dane Noble on Aug 30, 2010 1:26 PM CDT reply actions  

That's true and they probably run it better than the Bears.

David Taylor's personal hype man. Check out his website unless you're a loser. http://www.cheekymonkeyart.com/

by Ditkavsworld on Aug 30, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Charles Tillman always has something to say about fan reaction, yet...

… He never speaks to the fact that for 4 years the pass defense has gotten worse each year. He acts as if a football town like Chicago, who proudly pays BIG BUCKS to see the Bears play, should just sit quietly and " be ok" with uninspired play.

He has nerver.

Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p

by ChicagoMarine on Aug 30, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cover 2

It’s an outdated scheme, just like the 46 was for teams who weren’t the 85 Bears. ( I do like the 46, but people figured that out too.) Teams know to attack the middle of the field against it, just as ARZ did on Sat. I want this defense to be aggressive, attack more, take the game to the other team. But it’s obvious we won’t see that agin anytime soon.

by walterfan34 on Aug 30, 2010 2:31 PM CDT reply actions  

So outdated that every team runs it?

Scroll up to Dane’s blocked quote.

"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.

by propheteer on Aug 30, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cover 2 or Tampa 2

Every team needs a Cover 2 scheme. The Tampa 2 is Lovies take on it dating back to Pittsburgh I believe. Wiki actually has a pretty good write-up. On mobile or I’d link it for you.

by TheMan1 on Aug 30, 2010 6:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

you know, i keep thinking somethings going to change against the lions.its like we are playing crap preseason and when we do enter the field against detroit we are totally different. the real cutler shows up a totally revamped o-line gets going and when we dont have the ball defense is awesome.THEN THE ALARM SOUNDS AND I SEE ITS MORNING

by stepeo on Aug 30, 2010 2:59 PM CDT reply actions  

an optimistic cynic

on the fence on this season but i am feeling this all has to be blamed on the coaches.. missed tackles, blown assignments, soft play, out of shape players.. ive watched some other teams play this pre season as well and they play hard and fast and scheme.. why go " vanilla" if you need to practice the system your playing??

im not feeling good about this martz hire.. he was run out of san fran and detroit and it takes years as some say to master it so why implement a system which begs to win now or else? this team is poorly run!!!!!

by achilles10 on Aug 30, 2010 3:21 PM CDT reply actions  

The Bears as an organization are too slow to make changes

Turner was never any good as an OC should have never brought him back in the first place. Should have brought Martz in a year ago.

the time to rebuild the OL was after the 06 season,.the only move they made that made any sense was drafting Williams. You’d think they would have been tripping over their feet to rush out and get O-linemen as soon as they got Cutler. When Omiyale and Shaffer didn’t solve the problem why didn’t they go out and sign a couple more vets this year?

plenty of #1 WR’s changing teams over the last couple of years why don’t we have one of them?

Was Chris Harris the only veteran Safety we could have gone after?

was Tim Jennings the only vet. CB we could have brought in?

You got to scratch your head over things like letting Alex Brown go cuz he was scheduled to make 8mil when they are paying Frank Omiyale 6mil this year.

I don’t blame the coaches as much as the front office. But I do blame the coaches for the poor 3rd down defense that and not having Urlacher on the field to call adjustments.

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by 62bearsthe best on Aug 30, 2010 5:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Fellas

These Bears are starting to remind me of the 1974 Bears. Abe Gibron was the coach and he was terrible and so was the team. The only thing he has over Lovie is that he wore his emotions on his sleeve. Alas, gents and ladies, lets face it we’ve been here before and we know what we’re looking at. I watched several games over the weekend and I saw other coaches interact with the players and other assistants. Lovie does none of that. He stands there either befuddled or acting as he was above it all. FIRE Lovie now. It’s too late to save the season. We may have a few players that have skills, but for the most part the rest would be second stringers on other teams. I say clean house, starting with the McCaskeys. They should sell the team to someone who cares about putting a football team on the field worthy of the passion the fans have for their football team. I LOVE THE BEARS. This S**t has got to come to an end. I am sick and tired of it. Chicago is a great city with great sports fans. Witness the Blackhawks championship and the fervor it caused in the city. I say we boycott, lest I leap from the ledge. AAARRRGGGGG!!!!!!!!

"Most important thought, if you love someone, tell him or her, for you never know what tomorrow may have in store." ~ The Great Walter J. Payton.

by BearsCore on Aug 30, 2010 7:16 PM CDT reply actions  

How many different threads is this comment going to appear on?

Seriously….

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 30, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

You only need to post this on one thread

for people to read it. If your comment is a good one, you’ll get responses. Stop trying so hard. It hurts your case, not helps it.

"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton

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by Ashley Czuba on Aug 30, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok

"Most important thought, if you love someone, tell him or her, for you never know what tomorrow may have in store." ~ The Great Walter J. Payton.

by BearsCore on Aug 30, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Gracious response Sir.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Aug 30, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

3

"Most important thought, if you love someone, tell him or her, for you never know what tomorrow may have in store." ~ The Great Walter J. Payton.

by BearsCore on Aug 30, 2010 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Not sure WTF this one means however!

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Aug 30, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Premature conjeculation.

Perhaps hitting the “Reply” button in an nervous state of awkwardness?

BearsCore: Relax. You are among friends here.

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Aug 31, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

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