The Best of the Chicago Bears in Game Thread. Even Better than the Game Itself... Unfortunately.
by Just Dave on Aug 31, 2010 3:00 PM CDT
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But first I’d like to give you my take. It’s only the preseason, the Bears didn’t really have a game plan, in '85 we were 1-3 in the preseason, it was a meaningless matchup with nothing on the line, we need to look for the positives, so everyone just step back from the ledge. Yes, these are all things I’m really getting sick of hearing. Because if we were doing fine NO ONE WOULD BE SAYING THEM! You only hear these things from the extreme optimists when things are going really, really badly and no one wants to say the unthinkable. So I'll remain neutralish. I won’t say the unthinkable at this time. But I think we all know things are not peachy keen in Halas Hall right now.
Now for the negatives.... When I looked at kjbrei ilfbali... Sorry my brain feels a massive overload and I may stroke out if I stay on this line of thinking so let’s get to your comments instead....
Juicebox: C'mon Bears! big rocks: can the oline stop anything…even a nose bleed?
can mark anderson locate his pass rush?
Let’s just say the jury's out on that one....
Adam T: Off topic A FF draft some of my coworkers did this past Thrusday one of the guys tried to draft Moose. On Monday, I’m wearing my Moose jersey so we can all joke him about it.
Ditkavsworld: Didn't he die? You know because he came to Chicago.
This bit of humorous blasphemy
CloudyFuture: Marinelli sayshe did no game planning for this game. They will play defense the right way…..Whatever that means…..K Bell is the number 3 RB now….
Ditkavsworld: So WTF did they do all week if they have no gameplan.
Kev H: They played an impressive amount of cribbage. They also drank chocolate milk, and read the bible.
Adam T: Are you suggesting Jesus can't throw a spiral?
Ditkavsworld: If Tim Tebow can Jesus can
Adam T: Aren't they one in the same?
Ditkavsworld: Ditka says no and he'd know since you know Jesus is his son and all. That almost feels wrong to type.
I had some general random thoughts as I read this that with all of our discussions of no "running streams" we collectively sound like an ongoing commercial for a prostate supplement.
Trfabotta: Hilarious they are still kicking away from Hester, don’t they know that Hester died and we buried him???
Kev H: Matt Forte realizes he's not Kitty Pryde, right? Like..he can’t just run into the back of someone, and phase through them.
This led to a long discussion of the X men with no mention of Nightcrawler. What the hell people???
Kev H: My favorite part is when the QB can’t move out of the pocket because they slip and fall on the solid ground at soldier field.
Adam T: Ok, everybody who is watching on TV wait 15 seconds before you reply. This link is on a small delay")
wilsoneads: These are two really bad teams.
I should have known at that moment I should just quit watching.
no.fair.weather.fan.here: Can someone help me out... Why is Hester our #1?
No one came up with the correct answer. His contract.
After a holding call
Tfrabotta: place gun in holster shoot self in foot…
DaHamsta: Now we're not Plax here
Ditkavsworld: He didn't have a holster just sweat pants
DaHamsta: We're better on 3rd and short Than third and long
Turns out he was absolutely correct.
Acreman20: The 2010 Chicago Bears... Where me make Derek Anderson look like "that gosh darned" <edit> Tom Brady!
Kevin insists on consistant swearing on his game threads as evidenced here.
Kev H: Game Thread You can swear for reals.
Spongie: Big hairy donkey balls! There, I said it.
I love the following:
Bears-Cubs Bulls: Briggs ankle in the locker room unsure for the remainder
Kev H: The rest of him is there too. In case there was any confusion.
Comeback of the evening:
Adam T: My head hurts and my eyes are bleeding
Ditkavsworld: Good thing you aren't doing anything like working.
Ditkavsworld: Fitzgerald is abusing us what that’s not Fitz you say? Who the "Shucky Darns" <edit> is Steven Williams.
tfrabotta: 3rd and 18 right where they want us
T-Train: Did the Bears really just stop someone on third and long? Fan-"dandy"<edit>-tastic……….I am overwhelmed with a new-found optimism….
Kev H: Angels just came down from heaven and blessed Derek Anderson with the powers of Brian Griese.
In response to someone wanting to know how we we’re playing tonight we have this gem:
tfrabotta: you might not want to watch go enjoy your evening..i know, like watching a car crash..
Ditkavsworld: Gilbert in yet, I'm sure if he jumps out of a pool that'll get everyone fired up.
After a lengthy discussion about what adult beverages we were all consuming:
Adam T: I'm too drunk to drink
T-Train: Tommie who? Nice to meet you, Mr Harris. We used to have a guy like you back in ’06. I wonder what happened to him……
Again by T-Train and this almost reads like poetry
T-Train: Watching this mess and drinking reminds me of the old bar hopping days.....I keep thinking I can drink until the Bears look good, but I fear acute intoxication will take me before that happens at this rate………….I’m not usually a "out on the ledge" type guy, but………the breeze sure looks nice out there right now………
I’ve often thought it but never posted it:
Adam T: Can you all stop commenting way up there so I can stop scrolling down every 5 seconds?:)
This bit. BTW are you two available for kid’s parties?
Ditkavsworld: You really don't know who David Taylor is? The Elvis of the Graphic Arts world?
David Taylor: I hope I don't die photoshopping a toilet.
Higgins: "And the Bears will be forced to punt." I hear that way too much.
DaHamsta chimed in every time Bell got the ball and did anything even remotely questionable. I’m starting to pull for Wolfe to make the roster for fear over what he (Hamsta) might do if Wolfe doesn’t. For instance:
DaHamsta: Wolfe would of cut it outside for a TD
Bears-Cubs Bulls: Imagine ur dad saying this every sunday for the past 30+ years
Payton would have gotten the 1st down, Sayers would have scored…..rinse repeat.
Bears-Cubs Bulls: Im done with this Im going to chant "its only pre-season" every minute until the 12th, Later WCG.
Then we have an absolute tirade on the merits of Wolfe including intense insight into collegiate conference play and value vs... hell I’m not sure anymore but it went on forever.... It was still going on "today" (Monday) Answer: You all lose/win and are correct/wrong on many points. Take your pick and I've got your back.
Ditkavsworld: Well have a good night ladies. I'm out like a fat kid in dodge ball.
When asked what we (as Bears fan's) plan to watch this season (if the Bears really do suck) this was the best answer hands down. I'll give it the post of the night as I try to stay "optimistic"....
I love football: I don't care if they go 0-16 I will still watch every minute.
And we’ll wrap it up with that. Nice job again ladies and gents. Join us next week (and chime in on the game thread) as the Bears face the Browns. Win or lose, Ditka help us all....
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Well To Answer the Question: Who is Stephen Williams
This is Stephen Williams Also included in that video are points in the ongoing Wolfe debate of the MAC Conference being inferior (Williams rips up Purdue in the 3rd minute). Also included is Williams single-handedly breaking my heart as a Ball State student at the 3:54 mark. HoneyBear can back me up on that, she was there.
"I was interviewing George Halas and I asked him who is the greatest running back you ever saw. And he said, 'That would be Red Grange.' And I asked him if Grange was playing today, how many yards do you think he'd gain. And he said, 'About 750, maybe 800 yards.' And I said, 'Well, 800 yards is just okay.' He sat up in his chair and he said, 'Son, you must remember one thing. Red Grange is 75 years old.' - Chris Berman
by Sam Householder on Aug 31, 2010 3:32 PM CDT reply actions
I remember us talking about Williams pre-draft.
He was one of the players I really wanted us to pick up.
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by David Taylor on Aug 31, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I remember that too
And it makes sense that we could all see potential, 32 teams pass on him and then the Cardinals (who seem pretty adept at evaluating WRs) picked him up.
"I was interviewing George Halas and I asked him who is the greatest running back you ever saw. And he said, 'That would be Red Grange.' And I asked him if Grange was playing today, how many yards do you think he'd gain. And he said, 'About 750, maybe 800 yards.' And I said, 'Well, 800 yards is just okay.' He sat up in his chair and he said, 'Son, you must remember one thing. Red Grange is 75 years old.' - Chris Berman
by Sam Householder on Aug 31, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm surprised you were able to watch it again...
the look on your face was heart-breaking in itself, let alone the play!
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
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by Ashley Czuba on Aug 31, 2010 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
not as bad as advertised
I just saw the replay of the game, and I’ve gotta say that it wasn’t as bad as everyone made it out to be.
Other than leaving open the short slant pass, the D played decent. When we blitzed, we actually got pressure (which is better than us consistnely having our LBs run directly into the OGs like we’ve done the last 2 years).
Cutler made OK decisions (he just wasn’t very accurate). It’s encouraging to see his throw the ball away or take a sack instead of just throwing it up for grabs.
Taylor looks like he could do some damage (especially on screen-type passes). Even Forte looks quicker than last year.
Even us optimists don't expect this to change.
Other than leaving open the short slant pass…
From what I understand it’s pretty much open by design in the Cover 2… the idea being that pressure will force some of those to be poorly thrown (and hopefully picked), and the tradeoff being (usually) just a short gain if completed.
Unfortunately, the frustration of us fans when the passes are repeatedly used to get first downs, as seems to have been the case a lot in the last few years, don’t enter that equation.
sad, but true
it would be nice if we mixed it up every once in a while so that the short slant wasn’t there for the taking (especially on 3rd downs). QBs are too good these days to just leave that open 100% of the time.
I would think that with the speed that we have + the size of our starting CBs that we could take that away every now & then (perhaps with more aggresive press coverage, or the occasional dropping of a DE into the passing lane).
by MakeHalasProud on Aug 31, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Remakable?
Jay Cutler remains remakably uninjured
We have the technology; we can rebuild!
"What I’m trying to say is that Lovie is an idiot. Let’s not forget this." --celerysalt, WCG commenter
Nice catch
That daned “r” key sometimes uns off and hides…
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
by Just Dave on Aug 31, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
The "it's only preseason" argument only goes so far.
When they’re in the third exhibition game and they’re making the same mistakes and showing the same issues that they have all preseason (and all last year for that matter)… there is definitely cause for concern.
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And I know I'm gonna get hammered for this...
but I’m definitely thinking we (myself included) overrated Cutler. I keep thinking back about when he was in Denver… back then I never really thought he was that great. In fact, I didn’t like him. But once he came to Chicago, all that changed. I automatically challenged anyone that said he wasn’t a top 10 QB and looked for every excuse (stat) to glorify his positives.
Don’t get me wrong… Jay’s a good quarterback, who has the tools to be great. But I do think being in Chicago, and having a new OC year after year, could quite possibly ruin him.
Maybe I’m just overreacting.
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Well I am hoping
that Cutler just does not have the right Offense that suits him best….Turner was always questioned and they just did not mesh well….
IMO Martz offenses just does not click in todays NFL (especially with out 5 HOF type players in the Offense)….Everything now is get rid of the ball quick mostly….5 to 7 step drops constantly just will not work now….especially with a questionable O line…..Just my take though….Guess we will see….
Getting to know Mike Martz offense with this offensive line? It’s just hours of pure boredom interrupted by moments of unbelievable horror.
- Jay Cutler
by CloudyFuture on Aug 31, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
It is dangerous questioning the almighty Jay.
We put all our eggs into that basket when we made the trade and if it turns out he’s not who we hope he’d be that would be a very bitter pill to swallow. So sometimes I think it is easier for Bears fan’s to blindly defend him with all their might because it beats the alternative. I know I got grilled several times when I said that Cutlers picks may have cost us some games last season. People wanted to blame the O-line, the wide receivers and the scheme almost every time. Sorry people but sometimes a QB makes a bad throw and Jay made several last year. Hopefully he’s better this year.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Found this link
If Not Cutler..... Then What????
I mean what would our 2 #one pick be?
In 09 we would probably had taken a wr to help out Orton and would not have gotten Johnny boy. The wr would have probably been Percy Harbin so………..
In 2010 I think it would have been a top safety because the only good o-line were T and we thought we were set at T. there were no guards worth taking. And we seem to have gotten a really god safety with major so…..
I thing we made the right call by making the trade…
"Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence. In other words, it is war minus the shooting." - George Orwell
by RoyRockNRoll on Aug 31, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
ooops i meant good safety not god safety.... lol
"Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence. In other words, it is war minus the shooting." - George Orwell
by RoyRockNRoll on Aug 31, 2010 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
He's a very talented QB (has all the tools needed)
I’m still glad they dealt for Cutler… I just hope he’s not ruined, like you said.
I agree.
I’m still glad we dealt for him too. We’ve been QB starved in Chicago for a long time now. However, I do think we have overvalued him. He’s a top 20, possibly top 15, QB in this league. Yet, a lot of us rank him around top 7 because of potential.
Seriously, think back to before he was a Bear… what did you think of him then?
And again, I’m not bashing him. I honestly think he can be great.
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by David Taylor on Sep 1, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
What so many people seem to forget is that Cutler has only had 1 year in a stable offense, and was a Pro Bowler that year.
And he’s now with his 4th (?) OC. The guy has only been in the league 4 years. His numbers at this point in his career rate favorably with some of the better QBs to play the game and physically he has the potential to be elite, if the Bears can solidify the line. Unfortunately JA hasn’t ever made the OLine a priority when drafting and until Jay gets the kind of line protection the elite QBs always seem to have, we’ll never really be able to fully know his capabilities. Until then, his decision making has to improve regarding forcing the ball into coverage, going for touchdowns when first downs are there for the taking. Sustained drives ending up with points will give the D a breather and eat up the clock. We have that ability and that should be the objective for every game. Save the fireworks for when something is wide open, or at the end of the half or game.
LInk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJF68smk0iA&feature=fvsr
"Most important thought, if you love someone, tell him or her, for you never know what tomorrow may have in store." ~ The Great Walter J. Payton.
The problem with highlights
is that that’s what they are: highlights.
Jay, a former Pro Bowler, is a bright guy with a cannon arm that can move and extend the play. I think he lacks confidence in his protection, but certainly not in himself, and I think he gets antsy and forces some throws. He may be his own worst enemy but aren’t we all?
I agree (for once) with Angelo that “we” got the QB position right. He is dealing with a patchwork OL, a very young supporting cast and new scheme. After 3 dismal seasons that last thing I have is patience but that is what is still required.
Having said that, the bonus part of that link is the recommended “Monster Magnet Mix” so, thanks!
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
by Pete Dixon on Sep 1, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yup...
We had another player recently with that same “one thing” LINK
Judging from those highlights alone, I want him back.
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by David Taylor on Sep 1, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah but that doesn't count
cause he’s not a Bear anymore and everyone knows he sucks pond water. And yeah!
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
A lot of those highlights were late over the middle
Maybe thats why he tried those throws last season.
Now that we have Jay it'll be great.....
assuming that we also have that HC from those highlights, and the OC , too……..
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 3, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
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