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The Bears Den: Friday before 2010 Week 1 Edition

Where the Vikings loss last night is extra tasty!


Bears know Lions are much improved - They aren't taking it lightly. You shouldn't either.

Urlacher's return gives Bears strong linebacker trio - This is very true. The front seven has the capability of being the best in football. Make it happen, Bears.


Mullin: Martz Bears may need a little 'Razzle Dazzle' - Pizazz. Flash. They need some Old Spice Swagger.

Time for Cutler to start a new chapter - A chapter of increased winning.

Follow WCG on Twitter. It increases your stamina by +3

Star-divide

Julius Peppers: Chicago Bears like where Julius Peppers is — everywhere - Big. Scary. Yada yada.

Chicago Bears: Dan Pompei's Bears mailbag - I'm glad I don't get that much mail. Or am I? Feel free to email me your Bears questions, and I'll answer them. Or you can just post them in the comments. Just make the title of your comment "Question for Kev"

Chicago Bears linebackers Brian Urlacher and Lance Briggs believe they still can play at high level after seven years together - Better than them playing high. I'm excited to see them back on the field.

Time for Bears fans to hope - Yay hope.

Close look at Bears sends optimist into despair - But Telander tells us that hoping won't even help.

Martz earns style points - Pizazz!

Urlacher, Briggs good to go against Detroit - Linebackers. Good for standing behind lines.

Spread news on cover, too: Rodgers is great - A look at games around the league. Just so you know, the Packers are heavily favored to be good this year.

Here's a neat piece about Hanie...Go check it out!

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Question for Kev

Kev,

I’m curious to know what you think about Rick Morrissey. Is he a complete D-bag…or just a partial one.

If possible, please answer this question in the form of a haiku.

-Clawclawsclaws

by ClawsClawsClaws on Sep 10, 2010 8:28 AM CDT reply actions  

I like the haiku idea. This could be a regular “Kev’s Questions Haiku” feature.

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Sep 10, 2010 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

If any of our writers could pull it off, it’s Kev

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 10, 2010 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not only writers... ;-)

Morr’sey is a douche
Of the highest order, and
Only one compares.

And I think we all know who I refer to.

by Steven Schweickert on Sep 10, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Morrissey’s a douche
And so is Mark Schlereth
We hate them both here.

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Sep 10, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't it 5 7 5?

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Sep 10, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m assuming Schlereth is three syllables. However I’m not sure I’ve ever heard his name said out ’loud.

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Sep 10, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Schle RETH'

The first “e” is a schwa…. hard “R”… and actually I don’t hate Mark Schlereth only his homer attitude and Cutler hate. I find him funny and usually insightful.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Sep 10, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah. Haven’t watched enough ESPN to have noticed much of his (or most analysts’) tendencies, to be honest.

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Sep 11, 2010 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haiku? What is he TMQ?

"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."

"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010

by Sam Householder on Sep 10, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who are these Lions, and why are they coming to Chicago?

The Art Institute already has two guarding their building? I’d think that would be enough considering the city doesn’t have any Bears.

"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.

by propheteer on Sep 10, 2010 8:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Why aren’t they bears guarding the building?

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Sep 10, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure

I kind of like the Lions, but surely it’s an insult to Bears organization!

"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.

by propheteer on Sep 10, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’ve seen a picture of a statue (possibly for a Bears Den post?) of what may have been a lion, with a large Bears helmet on it… guessing that would be one of the lions outside the Art Institute.

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Sep 10, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're right

After or during their SB playoff run. Here ya go…

"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.

by propheteer on Sep 10, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice! They should be permanently on.

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Sep 10, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Like it.

So… Cubs caps next? ;-D

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Sep 10, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I never thought i would see a black president before I died

So a Cubs World Series win could still happen someday i think lol.

by Chitownproduct on Sep 10, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah...

In order to get the “Black President” thing taken care of, we had to give up our rights to a Cubs World Series. But we’ll try to get that taken care of in the next national CBA.

by Steven Schweickert on Sep 10, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

How the mighty have fallen: Vasher to visit the Lions.

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Sep 10, 2010 8:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Beekman to work out for Seahawks, also drawing interest from Texans.

Afalava worked out for Rams. Kevin Payne is on IR after a knee injury in the 4th preseason game.

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Sep 10, 2010 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Vasher's 40 is 4.65

Mine is 4.64….that’s how slow he is.

"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.

by propheteer on Sep 10, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm still saying Corey Graham

should get a shot, kid’s quick

but dayum…4.65, some center’s can probably pull that off

He's a 300-pound man who moves like a defensive back. That's what you're dealing with." — Bears coach Lovie Smith on DE Julius Peppers

by BearNecessities on Sep 10, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

grammar fail...leave me alone

He's a 300-pound man who moves like a defensive back. That's what you're dealing with." — Bears coach Lovie Smith on DE Julius Peppers

by BearNecessities on Sep 10, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't know if someone has posted this yesterday, but.....

Chris Chase of Yahoo’s Shutdown Corner Blog is picking the Bears for the NFC Wildcard, and has them as the most under-rated team. Pop goes the Linky

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 10, 2010 8:40 AM CDT reply actions  

He might be right

Football Outsiders has them as a wild card team too with 9 wins.

I can see that happening.

The NFC East is going to beat each other up, the NFC South is not there, the NFC West stinks, so some team out of the North can take that second wild card spot.

Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p

by ChicagoMarine on Sep 10, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

At 1st, I read this:
Time for Cutler to start a new chapter – A chapter of increased winning.

as this:

Time for Cutler to start a new chapter – A chapter of increased whining.

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 10, 2010 8:51 AM CDT reply actions  

HAHA!

You’re not too far off, Les…

Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p

by ChicagoMarine on Sep 10, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Brad Biggs on CTL last night

- Briggs practiced and looks like he is a go for Sun

- Think most everyone will be available

- Think Steltz might miss this game but did practice for first time since SD

- If Bears dont score on lions something is wrong

- Think the lions have improved and they have weapons now but oline and defense is a weakness

- If Bears dont improve from preseason could be a long season that could get interesting internally

- Thinks the vikes will go 6 -10

- Talked to former coach of Bears now coaching else where (guess rivera) and asked him how they could see preseaon problems. Stated that if it smelled like a problem then there is a problem

- Think Cutler and Martz need each other and actually does think that they do get along (no false bravdo/love)

- Cutler was against Martz at first and told people that if he was hired that he would not show up for OTAs

- But when they meet face to face and talked about football they actually did hit it off

- This is probably Martz last chance in the NFL to reinvent himself and get career back on track because if not for Bears he is out of a job

- As for defense he has heard that they are talking about using “subtle difference” especially for the secondary (thinks maybe more press coverage) but when pressed they get “edgy”

- Thinks the defense is going to be pretty much the same as before. This is Lovies D no matter who is DC and nothing will change really

- Izzy is probably the starter ahead of Anderson since Anderson (whom they let alex brown go for) has shown nothing in preseason

- Says Bears feel they got Oline protection improved

- Says Bears did a lot of 1 on 1 blocking to challenge the O Line and see what they needed to work on and see what they have

Getting to know Mike Martz offense with this offensive line? It’s just hours of pure boredom interrupted by moments of unbelievable horror.

- Jay Cutler

by CloudyFuture on Sep 10, 2010 8:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes.

I have missed these posts from him that don’t require me to ever actually listen to anything ever.

If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?

Writer at windycitygridiron.com {-/-} http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Sep 10, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

At least Biggs notices

that Anderson is garbage and the Vikes will go 6-10

He's a 300-pound man who moves like a defensive back. That's what you're dealing with." — Bears coach Lovie Smith on DE Julius Peppers

by BearNecessities on Sep 10, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Alex Brown

It broke my heart to see him in that Saints uniform.

by boondock_saint812 on Sep 10, 2010 9:03 AM CDT reply actions  

It did look weird.

I’m glad he gets a chance to play with a winner though. Class act all the way.

Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p

by ChicagoMarine on Sep 10, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I agree

another really stupid move by the Bears.

by Virto on Sep 10, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

My recap on Vikings from last night.

After seeing last night’s game, I stand by my assertion that the Vikings are not the “clear cut” 2nd best team in the NFC North.

In fact, I don’t even think the Vikings will be better than a 9 win team this year.

Brett Favre looked unattached to this team. No chemistry with ANY of the receivers, OL is still struggling and got worse with the loss of McKinnie early in the game, and the secondary looked worse than what I think the Bears secondary “will” be this year.

Problem with the team is that they have NO DEPTH in their secondary. The Vikings ran with 3 safeties when the Saints exploited their lack of depth with 4 receiver sets. Drew Brees CONSTANTLY picked on the FS Abdullah who couldn’t get to the spot needed once the receiver went past the zone area of the CB. When he overplayed the sideline, Brees went inside to the RB or TE. It was a well executed offensive display by the Saints who missed a lot of opportunities themselves.

But, the overlying problem was Brett Favre. His throws were way off, pressured, and he had no help from his receivers.

Again, Bears fans…

… I think the Vikings will be the 2007 Bears. Mark my words.

Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p

by ChicagoMarine on Sep 10, 2010 9:09 AM CDT reply actions  

Jared Allen, Kevin Williams, and Pat Williams were pretty pedestrian too.

Pat, because of his size, did make a couple of tackles, but Allen and KW were totally taken out of the game. I did not expect that.

by Mike Mueller on Sep 10, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ball was released quickly.

Nothing they could do.

The secondary was horrid.

Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p

by ChicagoMarine on Sep 10, 2010 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

While I do agree...

the ’Queens are less than what they were last year. They were playing without their 2 starting corners and held the vaunted, SB champion, high-powered, Saints to 14 points. The run defense looked average, but considering the situation, the ’queens defense played well, but the offense looked confused and unbalanced. Oddly, they are a mostly veteran offense, not a lot of new faces, but the lack of Favre in the pre season and the loss of Rice showed. The Bears have an opportunity this year to be that wild card team, but they need to step up and play that way now, not at the end of the season when they have to win their last 4 games and hope some combo of teams will lose in just the right order. Carpe diem!

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Sep 10, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Winfield played

Not sure if he started though.

"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.

by propheteer on Sep 10, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

He didn't start

But, once Chilly saw the ball being targeted at Abdullah side of the field, he put him in on the strong side of the passing field. It slowed them down, but CERTAINLy didn’t stop them.

Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p

by ChicagoMarine on Sep 10, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Saints went to a run offense in the second half to eat up clock. It was a thing of beauty

to see them run the ball down the much hyped Vikings middle.

Lions fans deserve better than being the laughing stock of the NFL. Lets all hope they are heading in the right direction finally.

by joshsun on Sep 10, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was nice to see...

but that game was damn sloppy! Always nice to see the ’queens lose nonetheless!

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Sep 10, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

first real game of the season, its always a little sloppy.

Lions fans deserve better than being the laughing stock of the NFL. Lets all hope they are heading in the right direction finally.

by joshsun on Sep 10, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Football season is just around the corner, and Chicago Bears quarterback Caleb Hanie is gearing up for the 2010 season as he steps into the kitchen to make his culinary creation Confetti Spaghetti Squash.

Will Todd Collins be backing him up in the kitchen, too?

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Sep 10, 2010 9:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Collins will actually be roasting the Tofurkey

If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?

Writer at windycitygridiron.com {-/-} http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Sep 10, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fact on Jerry Angelo Draft Picks.

Since the 2002 season where Jerry Angelo took (partnered with outgoing Hatley & Jauron) over the Bears draft, he has drafted FIFTEEN (15) defensive lineman; SEVEN (7) of those were defensive ends, yet…

… In 2010, Angelo had to spend nearly $100 million to get Julius Peppers into Chicago blue and fix a GLARING WEAKNESS on this football team.

Scary & disappointing thought.

Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p

by ChicagoMarine on Sep 10, 2010 9:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Another thought: that total doesn’t even include Ogunleye, who was the Bears’ best pass-rushing threat for several of those years.

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Sep 10, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Grabbing the TUMS

Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p

by ChicagoMarine on Sep 10, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

something of this magnitude

requires prescription strength

He's a 300-pound man who moves like a defensive back. That's what you're dealing with." — Bears coach Lovie Smith on DE Julius Peppers

by BearNecessities on Sep 10, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Your tongues can't repel flavor of this magnitude!!!!

If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?

Writer at windycitygridiron.com {-/-} http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Sep 10, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Flavor" is not the word I was thinking.

Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p

by ChicagoMarine on Sep 10, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

If they miss the playoffs again, there shouldn't be any question that JA/Lovie should be gone...

you also have to take into consideration that for 2 years in a row after missing the playoffs by only one game the previous season (because we couldn’t step up and beat the Texans in the last game of that year), the Bears have made the biggest off-season signings in the NFL with Cutler and Peppers, not to mention the second level signings of Orlando Pace and Chester Taylor in each of those years. On any other team, those signings should have improved your record by at least one game per season. We’ve actually gone backwards.

We all know that Pace was a bust, but that just adds to the reason for firing these morons if we are in the 7-9 / 9-7 range again and miss the playoffs again this year.

by BearFan611 on Sep 10, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's just horrible to watch this continue year in and out

I’ve noticed his glaring deficiencies since 2006, but because we were winning (essentially off the picks of Hatley/Jauron) fans paid little to no attention to how bad his selections were.

Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p

by ChicagoMarine on Sep 10, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

The worst part for me is my own apathy toward the team...

this happened to me during the end of the Wanny era as well. I’ve become so disenchanted with the organization’s seemingly disregard to put a winning program together, that I don’t get as stressed when they lose because I look at the silver lining of each stupid move or lost game gets us one step closer to a housecleaning of the coaching and front office staffs.

That’s not how I want to view the team I’ve idolized since I was a little kid, but they’ve given me a bad attitude. I want to go crazy during games again (not sure my wife feels the same way) and feel like I live or die with every play. That’s what being fan is all about.

by BearFan611 on Sep 10, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

True!

Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p

by ChicagoMarine on Sep 10, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

ugggg

You have to stay strong. Your team will eventually rebound and when it does you will savor it even more because you survived the terrible times. You can still go crazy during games.

I am a Lions fan and somehow I still managed to go nuts over games this last 10 years.

There is too much proud tradition with the Bears for this to continue forever.

Lions fans deserve better than being the laughing stock of the NFL. Lets all hope they are heading in the right direction finally.

by joshsun on Sep 10, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely!

Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p

by ChicagoMarine on Sep 10, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But we tied the Princelets and the Pukers.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Sep 10, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man this Lions love is getting out of control I think

I know the Dolphins went from 1-15 to 11-5 and the division in one season but that is not a common thing. People need to take a step back and realize there is no way we will lose to the Lions at home Sunday lol. If they win 5 games this year, which is what I am giving them then that is improvement, but like what Bill Parcels said, “Lets not break out the annointment oil just yet”

by Chitownproduct on Sep 10, 2010 12:41 PM CDT reply actions  

lol

As a Bears fan, I just like the Lions bc they don’t do anything too make me mad……Even when they win, they don’t piss me off………..I can’t say the same about the Vikings and Packers…….Now, when we play each other I hope they loose 42-0.Yet when were not playing each other, then I hope they win…………

Is it me,or do the Packers really suck???

by I love football! on Sep 10, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1000

F Wayne Fontes,,

"He is remarkably bright", a "terrific talent", the sky is the limit for Cutler"

-Mike Martz-

by tfrabotta on Sep 10, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

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