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Five Questions With: Dawgs By Nature

Dawgsbynature_mediumGame day got here fast!  While today's final preseason game of the 2010 season may not mean much to our starters, it is certainly a chance for some of the "bubble" guys to step up and try to make something happen.  Lovie Smith has stated that the final 53-man roster is generally already set, but there is still a bit of wiggle room with 60 minutes of football yet to be played.

This week's Five Questions is with SBN's Dawgs By Nature, and a huge thank you goes out to Chris Pokorny for taking the time to provide some excellent insights into the world of the Cleveland Browns.

1- Mike Holmgren is El Presidente, Tom Heckert is the GM, and Eric Mangini is the HC.  The Browns have a staff where the President is the mastermind, where the Bears have a GM who rules the roost.  How is that relationship and dynamic working out in Cleveland?

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DBN: Everything has been positive since the arrival of Mike Holmgren.  When he speaks to the media, he is very open and is able to share his  years worth of experience. The critical thing I’ve watched is whether Eric Mangini and his coaching staff would feel disrespected or on the hot seat.  While they might feel the hot seat if the team gets off to a terrible  start, they have focused on coaching and it looks like all the work they put into shaping the offense and defense last year will continue into this year (remember, this team finished the season on a four-game winning
streak).

Holmgren was very active at training camp sessions, driving around in a golf cart as he watched practice or chatted with players and coaches. There have been a few fans who are irked about small things that have changed (Holmgren wants a more family-friendly stadium environment, and the tail-gating hours have changed), but overall we couldn't have asked for things to go better up to this point, given the fact that we were convinced Mangini would be fired around Week 12 last year.

2- How are the rookies performing so far this year, and what sort of impact could they have in the regular season?

DBN: The Browns had four draft picks from the first three rounds, so I'll give some quick input on each of those players. First round cornerback Joe Haden has had a pretty good camp and has shown signs of improvement over the weeks. He will begin the season as a cornerback playing the outside receiver in nickel packages, which gives us better depth for the regular season than we had all of last year.

In the second round, the Browns drafted safety T.J. Ward and running back Montario Hardesty. Fans are extremely pumped about Ward because he brings a nice physical presence to the team -- he hit's HARD. He will start and will be counted on to help stop the run this season. Hardesty hasn't played the entire preseason, and will actually make his debut against the Bears. At some point, he could become the team's starting running back this year. Finally, the other well known rookie is third-round quarterback Colt McCoy. Since a question below asks about him, I'll comment there.

3- What do you see as being the biggest strength for the Browns this season, and what will be the biggest weakness?

DBN: The biggest strength of the Browns is the left side of our offensive line, also including the center. If you can find a better combination in the NFL than Joe Thomas at left tackle, Eric Steinbach at left guard, and Alex Mack at center, I'd like to hear it. Based on what I've heard about the Bears, I'm guessing that Jay Cutler would be foaming at the mouth at the type of protection they'd be able to provide him.

Our biggest weakness is at linebacker. We have about ten guys on the roster who we think are "pretty good football players." Basically, they have the smarts and some physical upside. However, none of them appear to be game-changers, and when you try putting four players who are average on the line, teams are going to try to take advantage of that. We'll have to hope that the "smarts" of the unit, combined with exotic "schemes" from defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, are able to compensate for the weakness at the position.

4- It looks like Jake Delhomme is the guy for 2010, but do you think Colt McCoy has the ability to be the future?

DBN: Honestly, it is too early to tell. Delhomme and Seneca Wallace have received the most playing time in the preseason, and when McCoy has played, he has done so behind our atrocious second-string offensive line. That usually results in McCoy getting sacked, taking off and running, or fumbling the football. If I had to guess, I think the Browns will commit to a quarterback in the next year or two of the draft in the first round, allowing veterans like Delhomme and Wallace to man the ship until then. It helps that since McCoy is a third rounder, if we don't play him, it's not like the team wasted a lot of money.

5- Who should we keep an eye on this Thursday that we might not know about for the Browns?

DBN: Mangini likes to rest almost all of the starters in the final preseason game, so it's tough to say if some of our "gems" will even play (otherwise I'd say to watch for FB/HB Peyton Hillis). You might see a lot
of outside linebacker Marcus Benard, a second-year undrafted free agent who seems like a pretty good pass rusher.

Bonus round: Predict the final score for Thursday's game, and you'll win a peppermint courtesy of WCG.

DBN: Heh, the final score of a preseason game? Well, while I am excited about our first-string offense and defense, I think our second-string offense and second-string defense are pretty terrible. Therefore, I anticipate the Bears beating us by a score of 24-10, or something along those lines.

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Chris, we really appreciate your insights.  You've got a great website in Dawgs By Nature... keep up the good work!

Also, everyone make your way over to DBN's version of this post, with five questions we've answered about the Bears!

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Why do I have a feeling

that the score will be reversed when time expires tonight?

by Virto on Sep 2, 2010 9:22 AM CDT reply actions  

This format was an absolutely brilliant idea.

I actually look forward to this segment every week. Great work, Dane! I hope this keeps on going through the regular season.

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 2, 2010 9:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Was maybe the best of the five questions series!

I loved it.

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 2, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

While I enjoy hearing other teams insight

I have to admit, I am rooting for at least one more “no response”

by TheMan1 on Sep 2, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Even though I like the series

DN can go to hell for all I care!

"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.

by propheteer on Sep 2, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yo I second Train here .... Great Idea and Great work Dane !!!!

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Sep 2, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

our DBs can do there jobs?

our DBs can do there their jobs? I hope that was Chris’s mistake.

by BigGeorgeTX on Sep 2, 2010 9:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for pointing that out...

regardless of whose fault it was, I’d like to think that you got more out of the article than a typo.

by Dane Noble on Sep 2, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, not really.

Hit’s hard- superfluous apostrophe! I mean REALLY!!!

Nice write up….

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Sep 2, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

The article was great and it's always nice to get a fan's honest appraisal.

But, right or wrong, typos are to be expected and ignored but misuse of a word reflects on another fan base’s perception of you/us. It wasn’t meant to be made an issue of, and certainly wasn’t mean spirited on my part.

by BigGeorgeTX on Sep 2, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I apologize if I offended us...

But it really was more of a typo than a misuse.

by Dane Noble on Sep 2, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

And are we now

speaking in the royal plural? Cause we’re totally in if we are!

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Sep 2, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought they grilled you unnecessarily over there...

The Cribbs/Hester question might have been necessary, but really, Cribbs hasn’t shown to have the ability to play WR in the same area code as Hester.

by Steven Schweickert on Sep 2, 2010 9:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Nah, I didn't take it that way.

Chris is a great guy, and honestly, even blamed the media for a lot of perceptions that are out there.

I just hope we don’t end up owing him a peppermint. :)

by Dane Noble on Sep 2, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lol, I got that

It was more about them saying in the comments that saying Hester IS a refusal to look at it objectively, where even if you did, the answer is the same.

by Steven Schweickert on Sep 2, 2010 9:45 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Both players are great, just thought it’d be a fun little last question.

With that said, Cribbs has looked surprisingly good at WR this preseason. That’s not me being a homer; last year Cribbs started at receiver and I was extremely disappointed with how he was utilized as a receiver and his route running abilities. Heading into this year, I was hoping that we’d reduce his time at WR and focus more on him in the Cyclone (Seneca Wallace and Cribbs in the backfield at the same time). I’m starting to lean back toward wanting him to get reps at WR, in addition to the Cyclone.

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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 2, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nah, I've got nothing against the question being asked.

It’s a fun question, sure. Just looked like your guys over there were automatically thinking “he picked Hester, what a homer call” when, really, Hester has a real good case to win that argument.

by Steven Schweickert on Sep 2, 2010 11:35 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

And really...

Both teams are doing the same thing, taking their best playmaker and doing their best to get him the ball. Hester has, what, a one year head start on cribbs at WR? And Hester had (need to be at a computer to stat-hunt) a decent year last year, wouldve had 1000 yards if he didn’t get hurt, where cribbs looked great at returner and kinda floundered at WR. I’d be willing to revisit this at the year end to compare Hester last year and cribbs this year, if I’m right about the year difference.

by Steven Schweickert on Sep 2, 2010 11:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ok, here we go.

NFL Service:
Hester, 4 years. Cribbs, 5 years.
Hester, 2 years dedicated KR/PR/Gimmick, Cribbs, 4.5 years DKR/PR/Gimmick
Hester, 2 years (this being second) full-time WR, Cribbs, WTFH, “half” a season… and what is he this year?

Returns:
Hester: 7 PR TDs, 4 KR TDs. 145 Punts Returned, 101 Kicks, obviously 0 TDs in the last two years, all in the first two.
Cribbs: 2 PR TDs, 8 KR TDs. 103 Punts Returned, 265 (!) Kicks, 5 TDs in the last two years.

Receiving:
Hester ’08: 51 Rec/665 Yards, 3 TDs.
Hester ’09: 57 Rec/757 Yards, 3 TDs
Cribbs Career: 36 Rec/288 Yards, 2 TDs.

So far in their careers, Hester’s got a 1 year handicap… and more production. I understand you guys are using him differently, but there’s no way it’s a blowout “Cribbs” answer.

Hester’s Stats
Cribbs’ Stats

by Steven Schweickert on Sep 2, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m sure teams kicked away from Hester too, but that’s one thing the stats don’t show too: a ton of times last year, teams kicked it out of bounds on kickoffs or kicked it short to begin with when Cribbs was returning.

Also, here’s another stat that one can’t forget: Cribbs ran the ball 55 times for 381 yards and 1 touchdown (6.9 YPC). The plays he made from the Wildcat are a big factor in why Browns fans would take him over Hester. On the same note, that’s where these two players differ: I don’t think we’ll be seeing Hester taking many direct snaps under center.

The point still stands: both players are playmakers for their teams.

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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 2, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Hester isn't used much in the Wildcat (or Wild Bear or whatever the hell it has been/would be)

But I don’t see why we should hold that against him, and even when you include those in his total carries and I include Devin’s 19 attempts for 50 yards in 3 years (a bit of Wildcat work and mostly end-arounds), from a pure offense standpoint, returns notwithstanding…

Devin Hester Career: 147 touches, 1771 yards, 8 TDs, 12.04 YPT.
Joshua Cribbs Career: 131 touches, 908 yards, 4 TD (2 Rush, 2 Rec), 6.93 YPT

I’m gonna willingly concede Hester’s 23 fumbles to Cribbs’ 18, and I’ll also concede Cribbs hasn’t exactly had a good (or serviceable, or consistent…) QB, but as you said, Cribbs runs the Wildcat, and through that he is pretty much in control of his own play.

Besides, I never was contesting Cribbs’ playmaker status; I was contesting the “#16 > #23” that your commentors were so keen on holding. I don’t see it.

by Steven Schweickert on Sep 2, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

No worries, I was just trying to say that I don’t disagree with you — both players are pretty equally good in their own right. I think being so adamant on the #16 > #23 comments comes down to falling in love with a player and defending him.

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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 2, 2010 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Love the avatar, by the way.

Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.

by Chris Pokorny on Sep 2, 2010 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

This isn't to start an argument but something I've always wondered about.

I could be wrong on this, but I thought the Bears linebackers of the mid-80’s were the first ones to start the junkyard dog barking and it was after that the Browns fans (prior to Modell moving the team to Baltimore) started the Dawg Pound. Am I off on the timeline?

Again, not to start an argument, just wondering.

by BearFan611 on Sep 2, 2010 9:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Ah, that explains the clip of Otis Wilson on the sideline. I’d always wondered why he was barking.

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by Spongie on Sep 3, 2010 5:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

So with their 4 gm winning streak from last year

Are they feeling a little optimistic heading into this season? (I hope the Browns guy sees this). Frankly I think they have a little something to be excited about, I mean I know it’s hard because the AFC North is such a stacked division and the team has been bad for a long time but there are some young guys on that team, maybe this year they can give some of the division heavyweights at least some close games if nothing else.

"I was interviewing George Halas and I asked him who is the greatest running back you ever saw. And he said, 'That would be Red Grange.' And I asked him if Grange was playing today, how many yards do you think he'd gain. And he said, 'About 750, maybe 800 yards.' And I said, 'Well, 800 yards is just okay.' He sat up in his chair and he said, 'Son, you must remember one thing. Red Grange is 75 years old.' - Chris Berman

by Sam Householder on Sep 2, 2010 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Guessing that optimism started when they hire Holmgren

Think they would trade for Jerry Angelo, Garrett Wolfe and Afalava? Or JA and someone with mad pool jumping skills?

by TheMan1 on Sep 2, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

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