The Bears Den: September 21, 2010
by Dane Noble on Sep 21, 2010 7:15 AM CDT
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...where 2-0 is good, but 3-0 would really convince some people of some stuff.
Lovie Smith speaks up about his WRs, and Frank the Tank.
Is Chicago getting back to being intimidating?
Wow, David Haugh. Seems a bit early for all of this talk.
Mike Imram looks at the Martz situation a little bit differently.
Follow WCG on Twitter!
10 facts about Bears DB DJ Moore.
A couple of updates from John "Moon" Mullin: Link 1 and Link 2.
Rick Morrissey is recalculating his thoughts on the Bears.
Sean Jensen shared some thoughts from Bears safety Chris Harris.
Kevin Seifert's Free Head Exam for the Bears.
Green Bay head coach McCarthey uncertain about facing Peppers.
Bears are #7 on Peter King's Fine Fifteen.
A look at how Randy Moss was almost a Packer - twice.
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Wow.....
Were those some nice things being said about the Bears by National Media Guys? Will wonders never cease? I’ll bet that King threw up twice while writing that…….
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 21, 2010 8:26 AM CDT reply actions
Which seems ridiculous to me
You can’t write off a team forever because you were wrong about them. A lot of people overestimated the Bears last year but as a sports writer you can’t take that and then just pick against them or bash them or whatever forever after because that is just stupid and people won’t take you seriously. How can you write about any team objectively or just in general if you are mad at them or whatever? That’s just incredibly stupid.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Sep 21, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't take it like that.
What was the question marks for the Bears in 2008?
A: Quarterback, WRs, and OL
I think King bought the idea that having a talented QB (Cutler) with all that high-potential talent on offense (Hester, Olsen, Forte, etc) and with a healthy defense that featured several veterans from the 2006 Championship year…
… The Bears could compete with any team in the NFC.
He also probably bought the fact that Pace would set the tone on the left side with Williams and Omiyale to his right.
NO ONE predicted the Saints to be good that year, right? The VIkings were high in his rankings, but he thought the Bears and Viking were mirror images.
Once he saw that Cutler had some inconsistencies in his game, he knew that he had “spoke to soon” on the Bears.
I think this year, there were a lot of question marks that we ALL discussed on this very website. How could he put them in the top ten? Top half, even?
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
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So, it looks like third part twitter apps are the only way to go right now. What third party apps do you all suggest?
While browsing
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by David Taylor on Sep 21, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Tweetdeck
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Sep 21, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Fun tracker for the season...
Someone (I am probably going to this week or next) should build a tracker (I will share it with any writer who wants it) to see where current Bears players are in regards to eclipsing team records for Passing and Receiving in regards to Single Game, Single Season and Career as we watch the “Martzfence” grow and take over. I am probably going to excel it or something tonight.
As a starter, some Career numbers:
PASSING (400+ attempts)
QB Rating: 80.7 Erik Kramer
Passing Yards: 14,686 Sid Luckman
300+ Yard Games: 9, Bill Wade
Completions: 1023 Jim Harbaugh
Passing Touchdowns: 137 Sid Luckman
Completion Percentage: 61.1% Shane Matthews
Yards per Attempt: 8.42 Sid Luckman
TD Percentage: 7.9% Sid Luckman
Interception Percentage (lowest): 2.7% Jim Miller
Cutler, so far (two sets, Total and w/Bears only)
Passing Yards: 13,339 yards (4315 with Bears)
300+ Yard Games: 13 (4 with Bears)
Completions: 1142 (380 with Bears)
Passing Touchdowns: 86 (32 with Bears)
Completion Percentage: 62.1% (61.39% with Bears)
That’s my first take, I have all the stats already but don’t want to post a “mega-post”
I think a lot of Chicagoians need to heed the words of this guy...
… And ease up on the kool-aid just a bit. It’s still very early.
But, it is good to see these guys playing as a team and with “a chip on their shoulder” again. I really lik the development of Cutler and I hope that this year is a season of growth for him.
Week 3 is a statement game; not so much a proving game. If they lose, then the national media will be ALL OVER the Chicago Bears proverbial “jock strap”. If they lose, it really doesn’t mean they are a bad team— just the better team won that evening.
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 8:44 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
But...
… If they win on Monday, I got them winning the NFC North.
Yeah, I said it!
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
if...
they win on monday, they’ll be hard to catch… and week 17 might get interesting then.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Sep 21, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm gonna keep bringing Denver...
from last season, and their 6-0 start. The backside of our schedule is looking extremely tough.
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by David Taylor on Sep 21, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
True.
You can also bring up the 3-1 start last season too.
However, the schedule is equally tough for the Packers, Lions, and the Vikings through weeks 4-12.
With the Bears having one divisional game up on Detroit and (hypothetically) Packers, it will provide a bit of a cushion for a team who will face marginal teams in weeks 5,6, and 8.
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm trying to remain cautiously optomistic too
Because of that 3-1 start last year and I think you can draw a lot of comparisons between then and now. For example, the Seahawks game last year was a lot like the Lions game this year and the Cowboys game this year was similar to the Steelers last year.
That being said, however, I think that this year’s team is playing much better and has a lot more confidence than last year and I think the upside going into week 3 is much better.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Sep 21, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Offense is a lot more consistent
That’s been the big difference from last year, in my opinion.
The defense looks stout too. Last year, those variables weren’t present. The Bears played desperate to me.
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PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm with this guy...
he speaks the truth. And by truth, I mean my opinion! ;>P
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
David Haugh starring on WCG Bears Den as...
… I have never seen a guy who can find a subject to be critical about in the midst of any situation.
It’s week 2 and he’s already contemplating Mike Martz’s future. Wow?
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I kinda liked the article
It definitely is something to think about, even if it is only week two.
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by David Taylor on Sep 21, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions
At week 2 though, DT?
I’m more concerned about the Pack and if the Bears can pull of 9 wins in a make-or-break season for Jerry & Co.
The city of Chicago has been very optimistic about the positive effect that Martz has had on Jay “Big Investment” Cutler and the offensive scheme as-a-whole…
… And, then he tries to deflate the one thing fans are optimistic about. In week 2!? Where was this in the preseason, if he was so concerned (Hint: It wasn’t! He was talking about how he was going to fail.)
It’s sad that “THAT” is his M.O. almost every article…
… No wonder Kreutz was getting ready to “go Hulk” on him.
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
meh...
He’s just giving food for thought. I can wrap my head around more than one subject at a time. And you need pessimistic columnist/ writers to keep the overly optimistic fans emotions in check once in while. Same with optimic columnist/ writers and pessimistic fans.
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by David Taylor on Sep 21, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Who in Chicago is the optimistic writer though?
I can appreciate realistic writers like Hayes or Jensen, but Morrissey… Haugh… Rosenbloom (occasionally)…
… Are NON-stop “downers”.
But, I too, can appreciate what they bring to the written sports beat.
I just think that the stories could be more poignant. That’s all.
Here this guy SLAMMED Martz all summer saying his offense would take too long to learn, doesn’t have the right personnel, is too complicated, etc. Now, he’s commending him and telling fans “Poof! He’s gone after this year, Bears fans!”
smh. Its annoying to me.
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Here this guy SLAMMED Martz all summer saying his offense would take too long to learn, doesn’t have the right personnel, is too complicated, etc. Now, he’s commending him and telling fans "Poof! He’s gone after this year, Bears fans!"
Journalism 101, no?!? Seriously, it’s like this with every beat writer, why get pissed about something that always been that way, and is never going to change?
And I’d say Biggsy is pretty optimistic, or pretty level-headed to say the least. And then you got some of us… we’re optimistic, amiright?
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by David Taylor on Sep 21, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Waddle and Silvy are talking about this very article and my point.
I get it. Haugh is trying to help his company sell newspapers. And just by us discussing it here and hearing it NOW on ESPN 1000— I guess he did his job.
But, again…
… Week 2???
It’s just WAY premature and a disservice to his craft. If he is in the business of creating drama, then I don’t want to read his columns.
Here’s a hypotheical…
… (Lord forbid) What happens if the offense stalls the rest of the season, then what do you think his column will be saying?
I’ll give you a hint— “I told you so.”
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
If most of the owners believe there won't be football in 2011,
then who’s going to give Martz a multi-year guaranteed contract to be the head coach after this season?
by Mike Mueller on Sep 21, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I hear you.
And don’t disagree. But again, I didn’t mind the article.
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by David Taylor on Sep 21, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
You are much more Yoda like than I, my friend. Me on the otherhand?
… Morriseey and Haugh make me “go hulk” most days.
As I said, I don’t mind “truth” and critical thought…
… But, that article was SO premature.
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
That's why smart people don't read this kind of drivel
There isn’t accountability in sports journalism guessing. So naturally, writers hacks make up whatever they want just so they can sell their garbage. It’s actually not much different than politics or FOX news!
"They form a huddle- Whisper like they want trouble- I melt the ice grills into rainwater puddles- Make the proud-hearted leave on the humble- Black steel in the hour- Assemble my skill form my power" - Mos Def
Cheapens the craft.
I’m with you.
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Imrem is a waste of space, too. He never imparts any kind of gridiron knowledge or insight when he writes, just regurgitates general negativity. I suspect the only reason he’s still employed is to boost Bob LeGere’s chances for Sports Journalist of the Year by dint of the contrast effect.
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Masterfully, at that!
His posts have legitimacy, but “c’mon!?”
Sheesh!??
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Agree
Not to mention that I think it would take at least 2 successful seasons for teams to really consider him IMO….Just going off his past…..
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Sep 21, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Didn't read Haugh...
But I had to chuckle over the headline. I guess 48 hours of positivity is too much to hope for. Gotta give the haters and misery fetishists something to enjoy. In the meantime, doesn’t everyone in the NFL already know who Martz is? It’s not like he’s some up and comer, auditioning for a head coaching position. He’s Mike Martz., for crissakes.
I DID read Morrissey, and don’t let the headline fool ya’. He’s not admitting any mistakes, or REALLY making any “recalculations”…He’s willing to admit, that ‘a lot’ of people will have to eat crow IF they beat the Packers.
Packers and Cowboys
both use the 3-4 defense – I think this is good for our offensive line to play similar defenses two weeks in row.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
'similar'
but a completely different style… dom capers is predicated about blitzing from all angles, two gap style, whereas wade phillips is more of a one gap, 3-4 hybrid style, less blitzing… they’re ‘similar’, but very different schemes, akin to comparing our 4-3 to the Giant’s 4-3.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Sep 21, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Isn't Capers's D more conservative on first and second downs than Phillips's? Keep it out of third and long
and they won’t blitz as much as a Phillips team?
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
sorta. it's a year to year thing, but there's other major differences.
often phillips only sends 1 LB in at a time, yes, that’s a ‘blitz’, but, it’s more like a 4 man rush with a 1 gap DL than anything else… phillips style 3-4 is really more of a 3-4/4-3 hybrid than anything else, you see a lot of 5-2, 4-6 sets… but more often than not, only one LB is blitzing, whether it’s Merriman or Ware. From the offensive line standpoint it’s very different, as the DL is meant to penetrate and disrupt the backfield in phillip’s 3-4.
In Capers 3-4 though, its a bit different, as they’re sometimes playing two gap, sometimes playing one gap, overload zone blitzs, that generally phillips doesn’t call, is a common playcall in capers (and dick lebeau’s) 3-4. it’s a confusion defense, meant to confuse the linemen, and put pressure on the quarterback to read the zones. in capers you’re looking to find where the blitz is coming from, react, and address it. inside blitzes, overload blitzes… when you have the personnel to pull this off (as your linemen have to be amazingly flexible), it’s scary good (see pittsburgh’s last 2 weeks, and for that matter, GB has been doing spectacular at it).
so to sum it up, it’s very different from a ‘reading the defense’ and linemen blocking situation. yes they both blitz a lot, but, in very different ways, from very different looks.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Sep 21, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Not sure about that
In theory yes, but I saw a lot of blitzing by Dallas well into the second quarter by DBs and LBs. GB may be a bit reluctant to go “all out” like Phillips did based on how the short pass countered it effectively
"They form a huddle- Whisper like they want trouble- I melt the ice grills into rainwater puddles- Make the proud-hearted leave on the humble- Black steel in the hour- Assemble my skill form my power" - Mos Def
that's probably more due to adjustments than schematic.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Sep 21, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
i guess the major thing that separates the two is that...
phillips style defenses tend to have an LB that acts like a down lineman consistently. if it was a 4-3, it wouldn’t be a blitz, but a 4 man rush. yes, phillips brings pressure from DB and LB’s (clearly), but, schematically, it’s more of a ‘typical’ 3-4 style, where the OLB’s are the focus of the pass rush, from the outside, where lebeau/capers style is zone blitz.
to the OP’s statement though, i don’t believe facing 2 3-4 teams, in 2 different schemes is an ‘advantage’, unless it was like, facing denver followed by new england. or green bay and pittsburgh, because, it’s like saying facing the giants defense is like facing the saints defense… and it’s useful to face 2 4-3 teams in a row.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Sep 21, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
The look is similar though
Maybe the coverage is a bit different, but I like our receivers chances if GB is more of a zone team. Martz’s pass to a spot design should be able to counter if given a little time.
"They form a huddle- Whisper like they want trouble- I melt the ice grills into rainwater puddles- Make the proud-hearted leave on the humble- Black steel in the hour- Assemble my skill form my power" - Mos Def
i concur though, the idea is to force their zone to make mistakes, to be crisp, and sharp. and sunday looked pretty much a combination of both.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Sep 21, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Radio Coverage
Zaidman on the Score w/ B&B:
- Cutler got on the O line after first couple of series yelling “!# pass block”
- Omiyale went over move set for LT before going in at LT
- Impressed with Martz changing scheme in game. Dont think it would have happened under past O coaches
- Tice has lots of trust with the O line and vice versa
- Coaching staff never seems rattled. Always calm. (Unlike san fran < – bernstein)
- Players really like / trust successful experienced coaching staff
- Thinks Bears O line is flawed and will have to come up with new blocking schemes game to game to be successful
- Should be interesting and fun to see the O make adjustments during games
- touts Bears running D (cowboys 1.4 ypc)
- Not sure what the Bears are just yet (remember last season Bears beat steelers and were 3 – 1 at one point last season)
- Wright hamstring injury looks more severe than C Williams
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Jeff Dickerson on ESPN 1000 on Waddle and Silve and Afternoon Saloon:
- DA not played much from what he has heard because he did not grade well in lions game
- DA needs a good solid practice to get back in line up
- Bennett is very consistant and coaches wanted that for dallas game
- DA is not in the “doghouse” just wanted Bennett out there more
- CWilliams was in locker room after the game Wright was not. That is usually and indication on how serious an injury is
- Williams is not going to lose his job is still starting LT
- Thought CHarris had good game with great hits and better coverage
- Steltz will be back Mon. Thought he would have been active this game
- DJ Moore is the funnest guy he has meet. DJ Moore will tell you what he thinks
- Size hurts him but but thinks he can be solid nickle
- 3rd injury for Major Wright that is a little cause for concern
- D line was not that great he thought but had its moments Big Toe was solid
- Harrison needs to step it up was surprised he did not play Sun
- Bears having success with underneath passing and screens so not that concerned with run game yet
- Harry talks about that 2.9 ypc is troubling but Dickerson talks about the passing game was so successful Sun to cancel that out
- What is troubling though was 1 for 11 on 3rd down
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Sep 21, 2010 9:27 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
great updates
this is some of my favorite stuff on here to look for
by reefermadness3 on Sep 21, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
they had dj moore on the score this morning
and the part that i caught cracked me up. i hope he does take on d rose in a one on one contest
by reefermadness3 on Sep 21, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Harrison inactive both games. Interesting…..
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by Ashley Czuba on Sep 22, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
ESPN's Kevin Siefert's Article?
If someone had told you last month that Frank Omiyale would play left tackle for the Bears in a victory at Dallas, what would you have said?
Semper Fi
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"No, seriously... Tell me again, Kevin. I'm listening."
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Peppers Jersey
My fiance (female) wants a Peppers Jersey—anyone know of a good website that has them? I cannot seem to find a trustworthy site anywhere. Most sites only have Urlacher, Cutler and Forte for the ladies.
must. resist. urge. to. fedex. throwback. jersey.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Sep 21, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Check out fansedge.com
Ive bought quite a few things from them and I haven’t had a problem yet. They also send a lot of emails out for 10-15-25% coupons you can use on anything.
They’ve also got replicas, what they call premiere jerseys which are better in quality than replicas but a little under authentics and right in the middle price range (these are the jerseys I tend to buy) and of course authentic jerseys.
by lopey986 on Sep 21, 2010 11:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Thanks!
Thanks for the websites guys!
by Stellarpete22 on Sep 21, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
but they only come in child sizes.
Get it… because he’s small!
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by David Taylor on Sep 21, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Ummm.. Izzy's small??
Or DaHamsta?
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Dammit
I get confused… I figured he was going on about Wolfe again.
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by David Taylor on Sep 21, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I figured you figured...
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
i do not understand
Some bears fans obsession with media perception of the bears.
by mike b on Sep 21, 2010 12:08 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
+1
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by David Taylor on Sep 21, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
But, I don't think that's the case.
I think there is still this belief, for most people, that the newspapers and newscasts are to share with you the information and details that you need to know throughout the day. Before the internet and the wealth of information that was thrown at you, you turned to the papers to get your facts and information on subjects— like the Chicago Bears.
Now, with everyone having a website, blog, Twitter account— any and everyone can have an opinion and can sell you their brand of opinion. Although there is some truth to these venues (Twitter sometimes is faster than the actual news), people would “like” to believe that the prints have a level of professionalism and integrity that is GREATER than the 14-year old on Twitter saying that “The Bears suck!” with no reason behind it.
I commented on Haugh’s article in today’s Trib, because it’s almost a “doom and gloom” article in a time when there is nothing really there. “Sure!” he can talk about the offensive lines woes, but everyone has talked about that to great depths (Hell? We do here!). He can talk about the near defeat in week 1, but fans have moved past that as well. He can talk about Lovie, but by everyone’s accounts— the Bears called a good game on Sunday.
There is nothing really “negative” to comment on about the Chicago Bears…
… And it’s Tuesday! haha!?
So, what does he do?
He warns Bears fans to prepare for the departure of Mike Martz in 2011 two weeks into the regular season.
Yep! He criticized him all through the preseason and in the same sentence that he gives him praise, he “smacks him” with an insult.
Now, he praises him for two weeks of games and essentially tells Bears fans: “He’ll be gone in 2011 and then what are you going to do, Chicago!?”
Point is— It’s not authentic! And it gives his craft a bad name. And there are A LOT of news anchors, news agencies, and writers that fit that bill.
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
didn't have your post
In mind when making the comment, more thinking of all the “omg how are they poweranked x when they are so good” comments from the last couple weeks. Which popped up again below. Nothing wrong with not liking an article.
by mike b on Sep 22, 2010 7:27 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Last night my friend(who is just now starting to get in to the NFL)
Asked me why ESPN and other networks haven’t talked about how the Bears have “won” their games, but how the Lions and Cowboys simply “lost” them. Told him I really didn’t know, but I honestly didn’t care b/c we’re 2-0 and they’re not.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
Negativity leads!
That’s just the short and sweet of it.
Critical discussion and negativity are two different things.
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PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Video Link: Week 2 of the NFL… there’s some monster hits in here >>
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Yeah
I really lit that guy up.
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I think he's talking about me....
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Anyone else see the call on Terrell Suggs play...
where he got flagged for “roughing the passer” against Palmer? What the hell?!?
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Bullshit call IMO.
Lewis was pissed after the game, I can’t really blame him. He got called for a tripping penalty after he was blocked to the ground, rolled, and Palmer “tripped” over Lewis’ feet, which eventually led to a field goal I believe and the loss. I hate to blame the refs, but they kind of boned the Ravens Sunday.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
Complete crap......
On both the Suggs call and the Lewis call. For those that missed the COMPLETELY BOTCHED CALLS, here is the Suggs Roughing Call and here is the Lewis Tripping Call. Is it me, or does the refereeing seem worse this season than normal, especially in the area of calling (or not calling) roughing the QB and other infractions revolving around harassing the QB?
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 22, 2010 6:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Ray Lewis
Ray had some choice words about the situation, and he’s dead right……..video here
And Pereira thinks it was the wrong call, and he would know. video here.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 22, 2010 6:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I heart Ray Lewis.
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by David Taylor on Sep 22, 2010 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions
SB NATION ranked the Bears 15th (4 spots behind the 0-2 Cowboys)
Wow? smh.
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PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
Oh!
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Behind the 0-2 Cowboys as well.
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
Are the Boys the first 0-2 team to be in the top-11?
"They form a huddle- Whisper like they want trouble- I melt the ice grills into rainwater puddles- Make the proud-hearted leave on the humble- Black steel in the hour- Assemble my skill form my power" - Mos Def
well...
the Vikings are #10… so no.
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by David Taylor on Sep 21, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
SMH... Thats just poor analysis.
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 22, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
... And, the 1-1 Falcons.
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
ESPN's ranking
The Bears are one of several surprise 2-0 teams. (Walker)
by boondock_saint812 on Sep 21, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Smh... Why don't they just kick me in the nads!?
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Mon night
To convince the national media, we have to win that game Mon. night. GB is a lot of these magazines’ Super Bowl pick and if we beat them the tone of these comments by Chris Berman and everyone else might just change to,“Wow, Chicago looked really impressive the way they dominated GB” or something to that effect. Then there won’t be any “Detroit and Dallas lost” anymore. They’ll have to talk about a 3-0 team who never got any credit before. A 1st place team, and that sounds good to me.
First Timer...and female...be gentle
Been following WCG for about a year and am excited about this year thus far…I know we can beat GB but the night games always make me nervous. Thanks for great website, very entertaining and informative. Go Bears!!!
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by bearsfn9 on Sep 21, 2010 3:25 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
welcome on board.
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by David Taylor on Sep 21, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
welcome
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 21, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
You have nothing to fear from the WCG crew – they even tolerate a foreigner like me here :-D
I’m sure I’ve seen that sig here before. Can’t think who else used it, though.
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Yeah, but we only tolerate you because you correct our incorrigible English.
On the INTERNET. :-)
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 21, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Soccer, soccoer, soccer, soccer, soccer......oh yeah...soccer.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 22, 2010 6:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Use of the word “incorrigible” deserves a rec :-D
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
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There are plenty of knowledgeable women posters on here, including our regulars HoneyBear (my g/f) and Allie.
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"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Sep 21, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed...
and don’t forget about juperee and TrialsBass.
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by David Taylor on Sep 21, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait... Isn't Kev H a lady too?
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Dude looks like Ben Affleck...
Oh, I see where you went there….
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Welcome to the famdamily.....
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Welcome bearsfn9!
I look forward to great conversation.
Don't worry...
there aren’t a lot of us girls around, but we keep the boys in line. :] Welcome!
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by Ashley Czuba on Sep 22, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks!!! Happy to be here...:)
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