Jerry Angelo & Co. Can Learn a lot from Andy Reid and the Eagles.
Gotta admit, Bears fans...
... I'm still shocked that Cutler and the Bears offense actually got "better" with Frank Omiyale at LT. Omiyale, who Jerry Angelo projected as a left guard when he was brought in last year, was a bust as a left guard last season and hasn't exactly proved himself at right tackle this year.
But, this past Sunday, Omiyale stepped in "in a pinch" when Williams went down with injury and actually outperformed Williams at the position. With that being said, If Frank Omiyale is able to show a solid performance against Clay Matthews and the dangerous front 7 of the Green Bay Packers...
... Would it be an awful precedence to keep Omiyale at LT and move Chris Williams to RT?
The Eagles spent an offseason selling us on Kevin Kolb as their starting quarterback only to pull the plug on him after two quarters and one concussion. Kolb received a big extension and room was created by Reid trading Donovan McNabb for two pieces of Bazooka Joe bubble gum and a kazoo to their division rivals (Washington Redskins). If I was McNabb, I would think that it really wasn't about his "supposed" decline in potential or his "inability to win the big games"-- it really was that Reid didn't want anyone behind Center named "McNabb".But for once in Reid's tenure, he actually played to the popular opinion.
To many, the decision may have seemed to be an easy one. Kolb has one victory in his short tenure as QB in the NFL. Vick has countless victories and some of them in "big game" situations. Kolb came out in week 1 and looked timid, ill-prepared, and often confused by the Packers front 7. Besides the first series that VIck had in the second half, he looked in control and made pretty good decisions. In fact, the Packers whole defensive philosophy changed once VIck seemed comfortable with the blitz and put what I like to call a "counter blitz" ("That's mine, ESPN!") when he started taking off and using his legs-- nearly bringing the Eagles back into the game.
In week 2, Vick looked exceptionally well against the Lions making crisp throws and using his legs when pressured by the Lions solid front 4. One play that sticks out for me, was the play when Suh was coming around the corner from the right side and had what looked like a sure sack, but Vick did a quick spin move that shook his arm off of hi, escaped the pocket, and got into the end zone! It looked vintage Michael Vick in Atlanta.
Behind those 6 quarters of play, Vick made a tough decision for Reid: Do I go with the hot hand or do I go to the unknown variable?
Now, Kolb is not an unknown variable in that he has not played. He has played in some cleanup roles while McNabb was in Philly. He has started 3 games with 1 win against the 2009 Chiefs and a 2009 loss against the defending champs where he threw 3 INTs. While he has shown some signs of "capability", he still is not a "sure thing" as in terms of a franchise QB.
Enter Chris Williams at LT in Chicago...
... Chris Williams was slaughtered by most opposing DEs in the preseason-- including Kameron Wimbley who went for 4 sacks on Cutler in the Oakland vs Chicago matchup. Wimbley has 2 sacks this season, so there might have been some "truth" to his tremendous game against the Bears in the preseason. WIlliams though has shown signs of being a competent franchise LT for the Chicago Bears with solid games against Jared Allen and the Vikings and a good game against the Lions to close the 2009 season, but he has struggled as well (i.e.- 2009 GB and Baltimore). Thus far in 2010, Chris Williams play can be considered "par" at best. He had problems against KVB and the Lions front 4 and he was exploited by DeMarcus Ware and the Cowboys for 11 plays in week 2. Some might say that these are elite DEs and everyone has their turn getting "Sportcenter highlighted" by them, but your LT is supposed to your "Island" player who can matchup with some of the best DEs in the game and win 3 out of 4 plays more times than not.
I have yet to get that feeling from Williams.
And, in a division that showcases some of the better DEs in the league (OLB Matthews, DE Jared Allen, DE Kyle Vanden Bosche), I have a problem with seeing his slow progression.
Williams- apologists will say that the 2008 1st round draft pick just needs more time and experience, but I would argue at "what expense?" An injury to your 50 million dollar investment in Jay Cutler that we mortgaged two drafts on to acquire?
Frank Omiyale has not proved anything at this point, but I hope that he has a solid game against Matthews and the Packers front 7. Jay Cutler and the offense will need it!
However, if Omiyale has a good game on Monday night and is able to neutralize their rush off of the left side of the line-- would it be wise to leave Omiyale on the left side and allow Williams to go back to an area where he has had "more" consistency at on the right? I understand that the Bears are paying Williams to start for them on the left side of the line, but if it makes your team better...
... Shouldn't we do what creates more consistency and stabilizes your offense?
I think Andy Reid did the right thing by starting Michael Vick on Sunday (although I think he did the wrong thing in releasing McNabb; to a division rival nonetheless) and I think it was in the interest of "winning" and not holding a principle of "who has the contract/draft pick". I hope that Lovie and Martz do the same if Omiyale succeeds on Monday night.
Go Bears!
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Sooner or later we are going to have to look at the Jared Allen game as a fluke, until he proves otherwise.
He has shown tendencies towards way more “bad” games than the one game good.
I do believe consistency...
is key to the success of an offensive line. However, talent has a lot to do with it as well. I like John “Moon” Mullin’s take that Williams does not have the mental/emotional disposition to be a great success at LT. I see that as my belief as well. IMO, neither Omiyale or Williams is the long term answer, but nothing succeeds like success, so ride the hot hand for now. If Omiyale can be coached up by Tice and Martz can scheme to get him some help, then keep him in (he has performed better than Williams thus far at LT). I hope Frankie O make sit a tough decision because we all know how great Lovie is with change and adjustments. That’ll be a nice comedy of Loviespeak!
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
Do what you have to to protect the qb and throw the ball
because we know we’re not running with this line. if i was in charge, I’d hand Omiyale the start on monday. and this is coming from someone who had zero love for him after last year and watching him fail at guard so miserably.
I don’t know what to do with Williams, I disagree with Moon on the comment that Williams doesn’t have the mental makeup to play well at LT… But, I don’t know how he fits into the puzzle into the future, he’s not enough of a mauler to really excel at RT’s… I’d really leave it to Tice. If Tice sees him as a LT graded player, then, who am I to judge the wise one?
For once, I’m not concerned about the decisions that the coaches are going to make regarding the formation and play of the offensive line. I’m only going to worry about JA reloading it as best as he freaking can (which, in all honesty, he’s subpar at that).
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
Shouldn't
Omiyale prove that he can protect Cutler’s blind side for more than a 3 step drop before he’s praised as the next Anthony Munoz? Let’s face it, he wasn’t asked to give Cutler 5 seconds the throw the ball. He did good with what was asked of him and that was give Cutler enough time to complete a 3 step drop.
Absolutely!
But, there is nothing over-glowing about C. Williams at this point either.
I think that if Omiyale shows competence at the position on Monday— you ride the “hot hand” and allow him to lose the job before you let “rank & file” procedure take priority.
I don’t think anyone is praising him as the “second coming of the Big Cat”, but I think fans were shocked by his performance on Sunday against a pass rush that looked unstoppable in the 1st quarter of the game in Dallas.
If he shows the same competence, what makes Williams a better option once he returns from injury?
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 24, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
You make a good point
but I think Williams would be equally as productive on 3 step drops as Omiyale. They repeatedly said that the Bears ditched the 5 and 7 step drops for 3 step drops. What I would like to see is how Omiyale looks when he’s required to give Cutler more time like on the 5 and 7 step drops. I just think it’s too early to wipe your hands with Williams.
But to answer your question, if Omiyale continues to impress, then he should be playing until he no longer impresses.
3 steps would also play to william's strengths too.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Sep 24, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Jerry Angleo could learn a lot from Glenn Fry and the Eagles.....
they would draft and evaluate better than he has.
Ha
Shut the fuck up Donny, you’re out of your element.
That movie is actually playing at the outdoor theater by us, along with the Rocky Horror
What were they thinking?
by touchdown bears on Sep 25, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
i think you have to go with the man who can do the job
..football is the ultimate performance based activity. you have to go with O at LT if he has success against the Packers.
"Stay thirsty, my friend."
One of the things that infuriated me last year...
Was that a number of players on that O-line were playing out of their natural positions. Pace was abysmal, and there was no significant change in the line until he went out with an injury. It seems like the coaches were set in a “this is what will work” mentality even though 12 weeks into the season it was clear even to me that it wasn’t working.
It reminded me of the “Rex is our QB” statements by Lovie, even though Sexy was a train-wreck and Orton could win. It seems there has been an inflexibility to making adjustments when needed for this team over the past few years.
That’s what shocked me so much in the Dallas game, the quick adjustments that were made immediately after Williams went out to find something that was serviceable. I would like to see the same thing on the D-line. If Harris has another poor showing, I hope Toenia gets the starting spot. Same thing with AA/Izzy on the end. If they continue to not produce, I hope we get Wooten some snaps to see what he can bring onto the field.
Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
Omiyale wasn't acquired to be a guard
he was acquired to be a tackle but when we got Cutler we decided we needed Pace to protect him and moved Omiyale to guard.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Sep 24, 2010 7:25 PM CDT reply actions
I’m having a hard time finding the press conference for Frank Omiyale back in 2009, but in that presser Jerry states that they want to look at Omiyale at “not only tackle, but also at Guard”. That was shortly before Omiyale’s statement that he would like to compete for a position at Tackle.
I’ll keep looking for a link that doesn’t require me to have to pay for it.
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 25, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
lets keep lovie out of the o-line adjustments. thats what i seem to take from the dallas game .i strongly believe that mike tice and martz got thier heads together and made the adjustments that where successful. prior to this season lovie and other offense co-ordinators would be stubborn and stick with the so called game plan, whether it was working or not
whenwilliams does make a recovery from his injurie do we just put him back in even if we are successfull without him or do we sit him until there is any other injuries?
Well I think he would be better then the other RTs on the roster I would start him there.
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
"I'm still shocked that Cutler and the Bears offense actually got "better" with Frank Omiyale at LT."
It didn’t, simply put. Go check out the Rush PWR ratings for O-lines on NFL.COM. Running behind Frank OMG we were one of the very worst in the league in that area. He cannot run-block and is as poor aRT as he is a guard. Thankfully when CW gets back there’s no room for Frank on the O-line. Then, and only then will our line get better.

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