The Bears Den: Wednesday September 29th, 2010 Edition
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Detroit hasn't won in Lambeau since 1991? damn
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Sep 29, 2010 8:03 AM CDT reply actions
I find all of the articles and interviews about Lovie "holding people accountable" kind of a joke...
it’s taken him only 7 years to figure that out? I’ll be more impressed when he holds himself accountable for stupid decisions like not kicking FG’s from the one yard line when you can take the lead or tie the game in a tight contest and not come off like an arrogant, pompous, “I know everything, you know nothing”, jerk. Also, as soon as he can actually challenge a play that has a chance of being overturned, let us know. Even the one where the Packer RB obviously hit the ground and we won the challenge, if it wasn’t for the fact that Briggs got nicked up and a timeout had to be called, it looked like Rodgers was going to get the next play off before Lovie even knew what happened. This guy is clueless and that’s not going to change whether our record is 16-0 or 3-13. Without a really strong team, he has no chance of outcoaching anyone in the playoffs, should we get there…..unless, of course, someone gets hit by a bus and the team we face brings in Wanny as their HC at the last minute. Even I might give Lovie the edge in that matchup.
On the flip side
the Bears ended up getting that TD when Hester made his latest dash to the EZ. That doesn’t happen without great field position. He wants to win, so I have no problem with him going for it. It was well designed; too bad Dez couldn’t come up with it after Jay threw him a fastball.
"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo
Kicking field goals
The detroit field goal I still quibble with, because there’s not much time and you need to give yourself a chance to win there with that play.
But in general — I like him going for it on 4th down. Challenge your offense, challenge your defense. I don’t know if you know this, but in the NFL the defensive team is more likely to score next than the team on offense when they’re at their own 1.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you should never try for it on 4th down but
not when, as in these two cases, you’re in a very tight ball game and the FG either ties the score or puts you ahead. We weren’t playing well enough (or poorly enough, for that matter) to not take those points.
Regarding the field position, as per Propheteer’s comments above, you can’t tell me that anyone knew that for the first time in almost 3 seasons Hester was finally going to bring one back!!!! The way Rodgers was playing the more likely scenario would have been that the Packers would have brought it out to the 20 anyway. You can’t go back and say it was a good decision because it turned out in our favor. That’s like getting completely drunk out of your mind and deciding to drive home yourself rather than taking a cab and then justifying that, because you made it home without killing yourself or anyone else, it was the right decision….bad decisions are bad decisions and I didn’t hear one credible source (coaches, ex-players, front office people, etc.) agree with Lovie on either of those situations.
by BearFan611 on Sep 29, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ding ding rec.
“We won!” is not justification of a questionable move.
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 29, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
The Telander article was good,
but I thought he would get into some things that could be done.
On the youth level there is a growing voice calling for the banning of the 3 point stance, to help stop with so many collisions.
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 29, 2010 8:56 AM CDT reply actions
Wasn't so sure I wanted to keep reading
after it started off like this:
…slow-mo close-ups of shampooed blond hair flying, muscles rippling, running backs bending oddly…
Sounded more like the journal writings of a high school girl and her athlete induced crushes.
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by David Taylor on Sep 29, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Fixed that for ya....
Sounded more like the journal writings ofa high school girlAllie and her athlete induced crushes
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by Ditkavsworld on Sep 29, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
And why the banning of the three point stance?
It’s football… collisions are supposed to happen.
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by David Taylor on Sep 29, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
It wouldn't surprise me to see it happen
Concussion awareness is a hot topic throughout youth football these days.
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 29, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Wussification of the game.
I blame it on video games and rap music.
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by David Taylor on Sep 29, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Blame it on the helmets...
The more the helmets turn players at all levels into human missiles the more problems you’re going to see.
When guys were wearing leather helmets or even the less protective helmets so the tackler actually felt relatively vulnerable you saw a lot less helmet to helmet or helmet to body collisions :P
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by Jacob Hayes on Sep 29, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
So...
making it safer made it unsafe. Brilliant.
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by David Taylor on Sep 29, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
The safer people feel the more likely they are to take risks
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
or, to finish that thought, act in a manner that jeopardizes their safety
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
Nah.
I got it.
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by David Taylor on Sep 29, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Foul on the play...
15 yard penalty on the defense for fish-hooking.
by boondock_saint812 on Sep 29, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I’d go with that. You don’t get the same kinds of hits in rugby – the scrumcaps that some players wear are essentially a thin layer of foam.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
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I was thinking the same thing.
Although the scrum cap is nice for keeping your ears attached in scrums! Lol.
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
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by Ashley Czuba on Sep 29, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Call me old-fashioned, but I just used to use good old electrical tape!
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
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Haha
I dated a rugby player in high school. He duct-taped his ears and made the tape go all around his head horizontally. I didn’t… I wasn’t a second row… plus.. it would pull out my hair – ouch!
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
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by Ashley Czuba on Sep 30, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, yes, otherwise you’d be taping your head vertically, which would look silly :-D The point of using electrical tape is that it sticks to itself but only moderately to your hair so it doesn’t pull it out – perhaps you were using something stronger?
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
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I meant
horizontally in the fact that it wasn’t like a headband. I just couldn’t think of a better way to put it! LOL
He was using like… duct-tape.. the silver kind. I never used anything. I didn’t need to. :]
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The nature of the game dictates that collisions and some injuries will happen.
I coached youth football for many years and the thing that needs to be more closely monitored is the coaching ability of the people out there. There are probably 10 really good teachers and coaches to every really bad one but it’s those bad ones that get kids hurt with poor technique, worrying more about the score than teaching the game, and living vicariously through the kids. If more time was spent on teaching the coaches and making ALL of them qualify through a certification program, certain injuries would be minimized.
I remember reading a few years ago that there are more serious injuries incured in kids soccer games than in youth football. Sports and physical play of any kind opens people up to injury, that’s just a fact.
Because our society as gone soft
So soft, that kids can’t cope when they’re adults cause they were pampered as children. I got beat up, thrown to the ground, punched in the gut by my coaches and gym teachers in grade school.
"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo
That explains a lot....
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Oh...that's why I'm tough as nails.
"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo
via Biggs
Keep an eye on how Bowman responds. He was the hot player last season
for Smith and his staff and that is why he was switched to left
cornerback in the offseason. Run support is a big key for the left
cornerback. Can Jennings hold up there at 5-8, 185 pounds?
Considering he’s probably the only sure tackler out there?
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
The only reason
Jennings is a hero right now is because he recovered a fumble…after MISSING a tackle.
Just like the reveling in the Hester return, we could have qb sneaked for a TD anyways…i’m just saying, it’s great he ran one back, but either way we should have had 7.
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Sep 29, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Jennings made a couple other really nice plays, as well.
Don’t think he’s a hero, but he played pretty well, all things considered.
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by David Taylor on Sep 29, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
I always forget something
agreed, I thought Jennings overall played better than Bowman…even his mistake wound up working out well
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Sep 29, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Everyone who gets into a car takes the risk of suffering traumatic injury or death.
We all weigh the risk/benefit in what we choose to do. Those in professional sports are at least well compensated for the risks they take. I’m sure miners, steelworkers, arctic fishermen, etc. would be pleased to earn similar wages for undertaking jobs that are much more hazardous, with fewer safeguards.
The article was in regards to kids...
last I checked no one was paying any 12 year olds to play football.
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 29, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
And you don't get paid a veteran min of like 336 grand to get into a car
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Sep 29, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
this is why you dont post before you read everything…dang 12 year old kids!
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Sep 29, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Thayer's Play of the Week
And he’s right about Hester and Webb; both with outstanding plays.
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Awesome analysis
Do you know if the NT was supposed to be triple-teamed on that play? Omi and Webb were one on one with Matthews and Raji, and did a heck of job.
"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo
I didn't realize Webb got some PT
Nice find
Haugh's last two columns
Have been absolutely great in my opinion. Well done on his part.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Sep 29, 2010 10:08 AM CDT reply actions
Lovie Haters
I was waiting for these guys to surface again.
So, Briggs fakes an injury so that Lovie will have time to see the replay before burning challenge flag, and this is bad coaching? They have done this several times under Lovie, sometimes its the fans who are clueless or blinded by hate.
I have to admit that it’s flustrating, Lovie never answers reporters questions honesty, we never know what he is thinking and he never says anything bad about any player or the team in general.
by 62bearsthe best on Sep 29, 2010 10:12 AM CDT reply actions
Which is why a lot of us hate him
Lovie never answers reporters questions honesty, we never know what he is thinking and he never says anything bad about any player or the team in general
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Sep 29, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
At least he answers where the players actually ARE.
Freakin Childress.
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by Robert Rence on Sep 29, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Give into your hate.
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by Ditkavsworld on Sep 29, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude, I gave in to hating Childress in year one.
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by Robert Rence on Sep 29, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
one thing we can all agree on
NFC north has some lame duck coaches…jury is still out on Lions HC though, at least he gets angry
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Sep 29, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
We've got some great D coaches though.
After year one, I wanted Tomlin for the coach.
After year two, I wanted Dunbar or Frasier to be promoted.
Stiiiiiill waiting on that.
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by Robert Rence on Sep 29, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Flustrating
The act of being both flustering and frustrating.
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Interstranging....
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
this is boondoggling
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Sep 29, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Just outta curiosity...
Given the similarities in penalties in the last game, Is anyone saying the Giants lost their game?
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off topic...
but what’s up RR? Long time no talk.
We may need to start discussions about another friendly bet this year. Although the bitter taste of defeat that saw me wearing purple last season still haunts my dreams.
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by David Taylor on Sep 29, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I was wondering what happened to you!
So many people around here changed their names that it’s throwing me for a loop.
Hmmm… how about a sig change?
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by Robert Rence on Sep 29, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Sig change...
Interesting, I think I like. Bet on the first game, and the change will last until the second?
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by David Taylor on Sep 29, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Sounds good.
Here’s mine:
“Adrian Peterson makes Walter Payton look like Curtis Enis.”
For what it matters, I feel bad writing that.
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by Robert Rence on Sep 29, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
holy smokes
maybe for a playoff game
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Sep 29, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Hahaha
I see you’ve been thinking about this. Here’s yours:
Minnesota Vikings – where we’re so desperate for a Super Bowl ring, we pin our hopes on a Packer.
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by David Taylor on Sep 29, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha!
Two in fact… and yeah, we are that desperate.
I had to do some quick research for a first round RB bust. There was always the other option of “Adrian Peterson makes Walter Payton look like Adrian Peterson”, but that’d just be confusing.
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by Robert Rence on Sep 29, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Funny/sad thing is...
when looking for RB bust, you had many options to choose from! ;(
Honest question, how are you guys feeling about your team this year? I like Rice… a lot… but is he really that big of a difference make to your offense? Or, in your opinion, is it just a slow start and you’re not that concerned? Just curious to get your perspective.
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by David Taylor on Sep 29, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm worrying a little.
But that’s the urge to panic. For the first few weeks, Sidney Rice was gone, Percy was hurt AND playing out of position, that left Shank and Lewis as familiar targets for Favre (Berrian was hobbled with a hammy most of last year), who was plain rusty due to not practicing.
I feel we’ll pick up strength as we go on and should be firing on most cylinders by week six. Week eight will let us know whether or not Rice will be in for the year. By the time we get to Soldier Field, we should be giving you our best shot.
Unless we’re injured. fingers crossed
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by Robert Rence on Sep 29, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Injuries suck.
We’ve had to battle that beast the past few years. Here’s to hoping you guys (and us) are at full strength when we play.
I don’t really get over to DN much anymore, because of Doc Goth and his long-winded, childish, ill-informed rants that litter your board and get in the way of having fun banter and intelligent discussions.
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by David Taylor on Sep 29, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey remember that time
I banned him without ever banning him? That was fun.
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I'm pretty sure he still brings it up.
What was shocking to me was that he always talked about me in his post, and I had never had an interaction with him.
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by David Taylor on Sep 29, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Kind of makes me wish
we had you a little earlier in the schedule, however I think both teams will be in a nice groove by the time they collide and we could be in for a 2 bottle Tums game.
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by Ditkavsworld on Sep 29, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
2 bottle Jack as well
I think it will be an oustanding game…even better when we win 560-3, never too early to predict
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Sep 29, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
2 bottles of scotch actually but I like how you think.
I’m good with the early prediction as well, didn’t think it’d be as much of the nail biter you are predicting.
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by Ditkavsworld on Sep 30, 2010 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I wreck it for overall greatness.
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by Ditkavsworld on Sep 29, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I think my heart stopped for a moment, everything went black
and I’m missing one of my two computer screens….
Thank god I know you and David’s past bets or I’d have gotten banned from WCG.
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by Ditkavsworld on Sep 29, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I sported that purple clad avatar
with both the shame of defeat, and the pride of man’ing up.
I’ve mentioned this before on the site (a few years back probably) but here’s a link to a bet I won against a fellow co-worker back in my newspaper days – snap, crackle and pop
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by David Taylor on Sep 29, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember you posting that awhile back, great stuff.
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by Ditkavsworld on Sep 30, 2010 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I feel I should chime in here.
When I got my first game of Madden, the team I would play as was the 85 Bears. I’d run the option, run back 15 yards in the snow, and then run up the other side of the field for a touchdown.
I don’t actually believe that statement, but I feel it’s the one most likely to hurt.
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by Robert Rence on Sep 29, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
and hurt it did! ;)
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by David Taylor on Sep 29, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I know you don't believe it, but it almost hurts to read it!! :)
I loved playing Techmo Bowl on the NES and having Walter run all over everybody, and Super Tecmobowl was awesome as well, Singletary sacked everybody, you coudn’t stop him. Ahhh memories….
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by Ditkavsworld on Sep 30, 2010 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions
RR
I’m gonna say that, and if nothing else, it’s a trap game for Chicago.
Giants will no doubt be watching the could have been INTs from Cutler and all their own costly penalties… I’m not saying Bears lose, but I don’t believe it’ll be a blowout
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Sep 29, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
No the Giants can't lose a game
they can only be beaten. I loved that safety that got called on the Bradshaw penalty.
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by Ditkavsworld on Sep 29, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
And, according to the sports media, the Bears can't win a game, their opponents can only lose.
by BigGeorgeTX on Sep 29, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
So will be a tie then...
If we can’t win and the Giants can’t lose, it souds like a tie to me…or do they have stailmates in football :-)
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Sep 29, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
According to McNabb
A game can’t end in a tie.
/facepalm
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by Robert Rence on Sep 29, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
So based on the MSM logic we are actually 0-3, right where we should be.
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by Ditkavsworld on Sep 29, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Radio and TV notes
Zaidman on the Score
- Since 1990 75% of 3 – 0 teams make the playoffs
- However recently 1 of the 3 – 0 teams will not make the plays
- nyg beat themselves against tenn. nyg never punted and had 470 + yards of offense
- Thayer stated during the game “There is so much yellow on the field that they can make a new packer uni”
- Toub never wanted Hester off PR. Told Lovie that
- Thinks Bears need every part to chip in to win games and make playoffs
- pack earned EVERY one of the flags
- Couldnt block Peppers without holding him
- STUNNED that no one else stepped up on DLine (flashes here and there)
- Tommie Harris benched was performance base
- Questions why Bears signed him to extension when they did coming off injury (but Lovie pushed for it)
- THarris practiced everyday and coaches were not happy with play
- Doesnt think DA is going any where. Martz wants to see / do certain things with players
- They wanted to use Steltz more on ST so DA had to sit
- Coaching no longer handing out jobs to players. Accountability is the key word
- Will be interesting to see if Jennings starts next week
- Bowman missed one tackle and was pulled
- Shaffer was pulled for Webb in one series but Webb did not look good so Shaffer went back in and performed better
- Babich promised to shave his head if Bears go 3 – 0
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Chicago Trib Live (w/ Kaplan, Haugh, McClure, Ofmen)
- Kaplan thought no way they be 3 – 0
- Haugh have to give credit to coaching staff for making adjustments and accountability
- Kaplan gives major respect for the accountability (unlike Cubs)
- Ofmen But who is making the changes cause cant see Lovie doing it. the new coaches?
- McClure does think the new coaches do play a part in it
- Haugh Monday night looked like the 2006 Bears game with the difference being Cutler > grossman
- McClure Running game has to improve if they want to make it far
- Haugh Have to give Bears credit for beating peoples Super Bowl favs
- All agree they would not be stunned now if they go into bye week 7 – 1 or 8 – 0
- McClure thinks nyg is a trap game
- Ofmen Urlacher and Peppers make all the difference to the defense
- McClure Peppers was great MN with the penalties he caused
- Haugh have to give credit to Cutler to maturing
- Mcclure Olsen has been great so far
- Kaplan Have to give credit to Martz for using Olsen when most thought he would not
- Haugh Bears would be foolish to trade THarris
- McClure thinks there has to be a reason Harris was benched not buying the performance reason
- Ofmen Why? Harris has not performed last 2 games
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Hub on the Score
- Thinks its good that accountability has FINALLY happened at Halas Hall
- But now you have your starters back ups playing and how good can they be if they are back ups
- DA is gone IHO. Been telling everyone that would listen thought he was not that good (3rd team and was on Practice Sqauds)
- Best case IHO is that the Bears are mediocre to above mediocre talent wise
- Always thought Bowman was below average talent
- Melton is not good your typical Angelo player so probably a bust
- Thinks they have come close to clinching WC when he thought they were 7 – 9 or 8 – 8. but now thinks 9 – 7 maybe 10 – 6
- They have gotten lucky by getting the worse performances out of the teams they have played so far to get ALL THEIR WINS. Can not rely on that all season
- They have a nice stretch now schedule wise
- Peppers has played against weak OLine. Still early in the season to anoint the guy but is playing well
- Hester finally got space to make some moves. 2nd return was a thing of beauty
- Cutler got lucky monday should have been picked at least 5 times
- Bears got luck on MNF w/ Peppers block FG, Hester PR, and all the flags
- Hub doesnt want to hear all the he is being negative talk . ITS TRUE DEAL WITH IT
- Urlacher makes a difference to Lovies defense
- its not negativity its his analysis
- This is a fun to look at
- Give Bears credit for winning thinks they have locked up a playoff spot
- Should be favored once they get past nyg
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Sep 29, 2010 10:37 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
I don't agree with this garbage
- Cutler got lucky monday should have been picked at least 5 times
Yeah, so should a lot of QBs. Three were the result of blatant PI calls, and another one on Zombo or whatever his name is for almost destroying Jay’s chin. The only other play that should’ve been picked was the one where a Packers defender dropped a catchable ball. Peanut dropped a sure Int as well. Woulda, coulda, shoulda….
"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo
I always
like hearing hubs slant cause if you listen close enough you can tell he still has not gotten over being fired by the Bears (or for the Bears firing his friend juaron)…..some of the stuff he will say is true but then he will go over the top when it comes to the Bears…..
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Sep 29, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
DJ was fired cause he sucked as a coach
Hub is so anti-Bear it’s nauseating!
"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo
Agree
but just last week Hub called Juaron one of the great NFL head coaches but not having the “personality” to show it to the media…..What ever that means….
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Sep 29, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh
how is blocking a FG, a PR and flags luck…it’s playing the game, when you can’t beat a team, you usually commit penalties, you game plan to have players like Izzy/Pep block kicks..and Hester. well we’ve been waiting for this for 3 years, he was due
shut your piehole hub!
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by BearNecessities on Sep 29, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Bears got luck on MNF w/ Peppers block FG, Hester PR, and all the flags
Luck has nothing to do with blocking a FG… The Bears overloaded a gap.
The Hester TD was luck? Didn’t the 10 other players on the return unit have to do their jobs?
And penalties by scared $h!tless offensive linemen are lucky? Penalties by an undisciplined team are luck?
Hub is approaching Mark Schlereth territory.
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 29, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Hub's just trying...
… to color his analysis to be consistent with his season prediction.
But geez, that’s about as off base as he’s been all year.
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 29, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
So the Raiders must feel really unlucky for all these years!
They were the most penalized team for like a decade. If I recall correctly, they were never a very good team. Thus, penalties are part of the game, and usually correlate to a team not being very good.
"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo
Take last season
gb lead the NFL in penalties last season so pretty clear that they have not cleaned that up….Well at least Monday night…I have noticed watching their games though seems like they have taken the approach of taking the flag and taking their chances rather than letting the play happen….
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Sep 29, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Fixed.
Hubis approachingsurpassed Mark Schlereth territory
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by Ditkavsworld on Sep 29, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Rec'd
Just for doing the work. Thanks.
Don't worry Boys, we'll weather this storm of approval, and come out as hated as ever.
Just hopped over to the big blue blog
they list 5 reasons the Giants should feel good about playing the Bears
1. The Bears are just lucky should be 1-2 at best
2. Jay Cutler is Jay Cutler
3. Giants D
4. Eli Manning
5. No way they can repeat the # of mistakes they made vs the Titans
1. even if the Bears were 1-2 there is no reason to think they couldn’t beat NY
2. Jay Cutler QB rating is 109.7
3. Giants D is ranked #10 but we already beat GB ranked #2 and Dallas rankd #5
4 Eli Manning QB rating is 81.7 maybe he is the new Jay Cutler
5. it doesn’t take that many mistakes to lose
Can’t blame them for rooting for their team, but it sounds like they are grasping at straws.
by 62bearsthe best on Sep 29, 2010 12:41 PM CDT reply actions
Especially the first 5 reasons
Conjecture rarely helps without the aid of actual, concrete facts. I’m not afraid of the overrated Giants D after going up against the Packers and Cowboys Ds.
"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo
we also dominate the run game
the only area of their game that has ANY promise…and the Jay Cutler thing is getting really old, he’s top 5 qb already, where’s little Eli…oh right, he sucks
"I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss. Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do." -Brian Urlacher
by BearNecessities on Sep 29, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
where’s little Eli
In Peyton’s shadow and boy is it a big one. Imagine that for the rest of his life he will never be as good as his brother even though they’ve both won a superbowl. Bet Dan Marino is jealous.
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by Ditkavsworld on Sep 30, 2010 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions
giants game
I think it’s important to have a fast start and take their crowd out of the game..score on the opening possesion or have the D take the field 1st and set the tone…rattle Manning from the get-go. Should be a great game Sun. 4-0!!! Go Bears!!!!
Manning will start the game
But I’ll bet he doesn’t finish.
by boondock_saint812 on Sep 29, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree.
If you shut the crowd up, you really amp up the Bears chances to call plays.
If Peppers can get to Eli once or twice, he’ll be fidgetty and scared the whole night, just like he was in Indy. There is a lot of speculation that the team has quit on Coughlin, and they just aren’t playing with any real passion right now. It’s an excellent chance for the Bears to capitalize.
However, the Bears have to approach every week like they’re facing an undefeated team. The Bears have always been capable of playing DOWN to another team’s level. The Giants won’t simply roll over and play dead. We can’t give them the option to turn the season around.
Two things
Our acquaintance Sean Jensen
I like the sound of that.
The second is the fact that Wolfe made the block that helped sprung the Hester return. Special Teams is important and Wolfe contributes a lot to that aspect of the game.
Wait, you like Wolfe?
I had no idea…
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