Open Thread: Chicago Bears Roster Shakedown Edition
by Dane Noble on Sep 3, 2010 12:07 PM CDT
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PrintThe Chicago Bears final roster of 53 players will be due tomorrow, and the cuts have already begun today.
So far, we've seen Special Teams ace Tim Shaw get his walking papers, as well as LBs Kevin Malast and Kelvin Smith. Also, WR Freddie Barnes has been waived.
Stay tuned to WCG for all the latest and greatest as we continue carving towards that magic number of 53.
UPDATE: Safety Al Afalava has received his walking papers. What a turn of events Mr. Afalava has seen in the last year.
UPDATE: Tim Shaw, as of Saturday morning is being shopped by the Bears. Maybe we can get a conditional pick before flat out cutting him.
UPDATE AGAIN: The Bears could not find a trading partner for Tim Shaw, so he is officially a free agent.
The team will be making an official announcement regarding the roster at 7:15pm CT.
More updates after the jump.
Also cut/waived/released:
- Safety Quinten Scott
- CB Cornelius Brown
- CB Woodny Turenne
- Center Tim Walter
- DT Mick Williams
- OL James Marten
- OL Levi Horn
- DE Barry Turner
- TE Richard Angulo
- DT Jarron Gilbert
- WR Juaquin Iglesias (expected to be waived)
- OL Josh Beekman
- Safety Aaron Webster
- HBack Eddie Williams (expected)
- WR Greg Matthews
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I only know how to party one way.
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Hmmm...1999
That’s when the Bears went 6-10. Is this a prediction?
"Most important thought, if you love someone, tell him or her, for you never know what tomorrow may have in store." ~ The Great Walter J. Payton.
And Betty when you cut me
you can cut me Al….
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
terrible...
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 3, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I know but I had to...
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
No.
Hell no man. I think you can get your ass kicked for saying something like that.
If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?
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Cyber ass?
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Are you always the
first to swear in open threads? Hahaha.
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
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You know
I am going to support the Paul Simon reference. That is a good song!
"I was interviewing George Halas and I asked him who is the greatest running back you ever saw. And he said, 'That would be Red Grange.' And I asked him if Grange was playing today, how many yards do you think he'd gain. And he said, 'About 750, maybe 800 yards.' And I said, 'Well, 800 yards is just okay.' He sat up in his chair and he said, 'Son, you must remember one thing. Red Grange is 75 years old.' - Chris Berman
by Sam Householder on Sep 4, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree....
Count me as a +1
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 4, 2010 4:37 AM CDT up reply actions
That was the first time I’d ever seen Paul Simon or Chevy Chase. It took a while to work out Chevy Chase wasn’t really doing the singing.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
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Freddie Barnes
Fuck No. I’m done with this team.
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Funny, I hear writer cuts are due on the 5th...
;-)
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 3, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
The commenter cuts are now!
BOOOM!
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Hahahaha
Well hello to you too. And since when did fans of the writers start getting cut? I mean, well, you guys are the team and we’re just the fans calling for your head or falling in love with you like you’re a backup QB.
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 3, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Um
You’re either with us or against us?
I dunno. I just like playful banter.
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Sorry Kev, I'm not interested in your playful flirtatious advances.
Now banter on the other hand…
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 3, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Bring your banter
only if it’s witty.
If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?
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My wit is too sharp for you to handle...
You might cut yourself on it.
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 3, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Well pin a rose on your nose.
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Orange Shy Guy would
But there’s that whole “mask wearing” thing he’s got.
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 3, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
If you're not careful
I’ll jump on your head, pick you up over my head, and throw you down a pit. Or I’ll grab a bomb and throw it at you.
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That's fine
But remember that you have that “close, personal encounter” with Birdo later in the stage.
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 3, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
After reading this exchange
I might have to retract the enthusiastic endorsement I gave this site to my friends and family as the “highest quality sports blog around”
"What I’m trying to say is that Lovie is an idiot. Let’s not forget this." --celerysalt, WCG commenter
Ditto!
Starting to sound more like a “Frat House Chat Room” than a real “Sports Blog” :(
Me too...
… silly boys.
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
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Me too,
but i reserve the right to poke fun at the silliness.
Maybe I should use emoticons more often so you guys know when I’m kidding.
I would hate a blog that took itself too seriously.
:-)
"What I’m trying to say is that Lovie is an idiot. Let’s not forget this." --celerysalt, WCG commenter
I knew you were kidding.
Don’t worry. :] Lol.
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
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by Ashley Czuba on Sep 4, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Come on,
deep down, you know you enjoy having us around. ;-)
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 6, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Of course. :]
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
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by Ashley Czuba on Sep 10, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
They shall regret the Scott.
Panthers rule.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
And the Turrenne family thanks you
for not forgetting the superfluous n in his 1st name.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Woodney could really hit
not so good on coverage though. Sorry to see Shaw go – hoped he’d make the team.
I'm releasing my Woodny later tonight.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Well played.
Semper Fi
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 3, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Congratulations.
I now hate you. Keep up the good work!
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Don't hate.
You just need a hug and a warm cup of hot chocolate with marshmallows in it.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
omg lol
"Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence. In other words, it is war minus the shooting." - George Orwell
Shaw released?
Wow! So they think his performance last year was a fluke or they have someone better in mind?
You may get varying answers to your question.
I would doubt that Management believed his performance was a fluke.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Still don't see how Iwuh made a better impression than Shaw has over the last year.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
IIRC Iwuh beat out Shaw in Jville that's why he was a Bear last year.
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Iwuh is a better option to back-up Briggs.
That’s why.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Sep 3, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
he's not a bad OLB
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 3, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Josh Bullocks safe.
I don’t know how reliable the source but it was claimed to be reported by ESPN Chicago.
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A lot of us don't believe ESPN, they lie.
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only 85%....did they make some cuts too?
by BearFan611 on Sep 3, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
"Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence. In other words, it is war minus the shooting." - George Orwell
Bullocks is safe because
Steltz is injured.
Wright is a rookie.
Manning is clueless.
Harris looks really lousy.
So we have to go with 5 Safeties.
I would love to dump Bullocks to keep Shaw or another OL player on the roster but the fact is, the Safety position is still a mess (also, Bullocks is decent on ST.)
Wow
What the fucking fuck.
Shaw?
The hell?
Uhhh.
Ok..
And Afalava will be a startingSS for someone in this league for years to come.
And Woodny T. will be the next peanut TIllman
that's exactly the thoughts
that make us bears fans…
Shaw on the other hand… If Toub said he’s fine to go, I’d believe Toub. He seems to have no trouble making late rounders into ST stars, Shaw was no exception. We’ll just see who picks up Shaw’s slack this year…
But, coverages is half the battle, the other half? Blocking, which we’ve been mediocre at best with. I’d rather have a good blocker than a great tackler.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
I just need to know when the Bears are going to install a pool on the field.
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Probably just before...
They install field turf!
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Sep 3, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
shaw
I will say that shaw did look horrible on defense last night.
"He is remarkably bright", a "terrific talent", the sky is the limit for Cutler"
-Mike Martz-
by tfrabotta on Sep 3, 2010 1:33 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
So our starting SS for 13 games last year
is a guy that 12 months later isn’t good enough to make the team? Wow.
Yeah but it worked!
I think its a good cut . Lava ......
……. was a liability in coverage and just looked like he didn’t want any part of a competition for his position . Also his tackling was just bad and he showed zero improvment from last year to this year , so good cut in my opinion . Scott will make the practice squad as will Malast .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Sep 3, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
They added Major Wright and Chris Harris
Someone had to go.
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 3, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
And Lava played his way off this team .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Sep 3, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess my feeling is more guided toward our evaluation
of talent. Why in the world did we go into last season with a guy who for all intensive purposes, wasn’t good enough to make our team. That says a lot about Angelo and Lovie. We now have wasted 3rd and 4th rounders on our roster that may get cut and if they don’t it’s only for Angelo to save face.
We have a CB that should be our FS, We got Manning who should be our nickel back. Wright probably can play at SS… Cuts to the roster like Afalava really let you know how sorry our talent evaluating really is.
Yeah but it worked!
Wright is a FS
That’s what he’s played and where he fits
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 3, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
He was a 6th round pick so what did we really lose?
I think it speaks more to the level of safties we had last year and like it’s been said with the addtion of Wright and Harris somebody has to go. He played well but was that more beause the rest of the people around him were garbage or he was actually good? He didn’t dazzle me with what I saw in preseason and I think some injuries may have affected him this year.
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I don't disagree
I don’t have a problem with Afalava getting cut, it just makes me wonder about how we went into last season with this guy as our starting SS for 13 games. It’s just a bad reflection on what we had in our secondary last year.
Yeah but it worked!
I agree our seconday was pretty awful last year
and this year they aren’t looking much better. But I’m going to try and remain positive and say that our current secondary will improve as the year goes by.
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for all intensive purposes
That’s intense.
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isnt it supposed to be
“for all intents and purposes”?
by brianm on Sep 4, 2010 7:15 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Angulo is done per Twitter.
BradBiggs
Tight end Richard Angulo sent text message to Tribune saying he’s been informed he will be released by #Bears.
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Shocker !!!!
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Sep 3, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn does that mean no more Angulo jokes?
They were my bread and butter last night.
Remember it’s pronounced Angulo.
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I still like the thought of Angelo at TE.
Might actually knock some sense into him.
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 3, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
A sledge hammer couldn't knock sense into Angelo.
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No...
A sledgehammer might knock his brains eyes empty space out. Better just tackle him.
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 3, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Around the league
Via Schefter’s twitter
Cardinals traded guard Reggie Wells to Philadelphia Eagles in exchange for a 6th-round pick.
Eagles might not be done dealing on O-line yet. There’s interest in former franchise OT Stacy Andrews.
Should the Bears have any interest in this? I like what Louis has done so far in the preseason but he’s unproven. Also, we don’t know how well Garza’s going to do moving the left side.
by boondock_saint812 on Sep 3, 2010 1:52 PM CDT reply actions
Which side does he play & has he ever played inside ?
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Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Sep 3, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Schefter has him as a OT but the Eagles site has him listed as a G.
by boondock_saint812 on Sep 3, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd be down with givin him a shot .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Sep 3, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I noted Andrews during the beginning of FA......
Serious motivational issues but immense amounts of skill. Huge risk but high reward candidate. IIRC, he has some mental health issues, as well. (Not being sarcastic)
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 3, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
That piqued my interest, too.
Curious to see if Bears go after any other team’s castoffs.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
What are the rules regarding the practice squad?
Is it that a player cant have more than 3 combined years on the P.S.
ESPN 1000 Afternoon Saloon says (UNOFFICIALLY) that Juaqiun Iglesias will be cut!
They haven’t confirmed it, but their sources says that he will be cut in the coming hours.
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
Wow... cutting a third round pick.. That's new.
So, the bigger question, does that mean only 5 WR, with Olson as #6, or that the bears are going shopping.
by DisCUBbobulated on Sep 3, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
This is what I have believed all along.
5 WRs plus Olsen.
We’ll see though.
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 3, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
My guess...
Is that they loved Greg Matthews as I do. Big receiver with good hands and he’s not as slow as advertised.
Pof, Pof, Pasa! Watch out for the monsters!
Not Insane To Cut Him
But if Earl’s hamstring gives out, we’re looking at 4 wide-outs. That is pretty thin. Maybe they’re counting Olsen as a possession receiver.
If that Quentin Scott guy is really 6-5 and runs 4.4, they should try him at wideout.
Dead on, Shuffle!
If Iglesias is cut, then Olsen will be considered a 5th WR. A sort of hybrid receiver that can play on the line and off.
This is the most interesting thing I am watching.
Plus, if Iglesias gets cut, I think Melton AND Gilbert are safe.
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 3, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Jerry Angelo does like his defensive linemen. I wonder who will pick up Iglesias?
I always wondered if Jerry drafted him because he thought he was kin to Julio, and he liked Julio’s music.
Which Julio?
Don? :-/
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 3, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
In a perverse way
That might make some sense. Let Olsen catch, Brandon M. block, and Dez do both.
I don't like this
I thought he looked good last night, and has more speed than Earl. That’s weird cause they usually keep 6 WRs; it especially doesn’t make sense with the propensity of Martz throwing 60% of the time. They may be working on a deal to get someone else in there.
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We Got Speed
Need toughness. Earl is tough. He can get yards after catch, and will go over the middle.
We have the technology, we can rebuild him....
I’m sorry your post just made my mind go there.
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Steve Austin!
Except these days $6 million would probably just buy one leg.
Thank you team
For managing two years straight to completely Fucking ignore a potential replacement for Urlacher in Malast. As far as Wolfe and Bell go, if either has an edge, then it must have something to do with who can drop a bigger deuce, because it has nothing to do with their production on the field. Sigh…real talk. I live ten minutes from Mike Ditkas resort in Orlando. I might take hostages if my list of demands aren’t met. That would include Rob Ryan as our new head coach, so those assholes can see what happens when players get served piss and vinegar to whet their thirst.
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
by ifuwannacrownem on Sep 3, 2010 3:08 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, but never inside.
And honestly, placing it on 535 right behind a bunch of crappy colored apartments does it a disservice. With that said, it bears the name of our lord and savior, Mike Ditka, and should be treated as our fortress of solitude.
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
by ifuwannacrownem on Sep 3, 2010 5:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Yes because Malast is a potential Pro Bowler!
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 3, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Desperation
On performance, neither Bell NOR Wolfe should have made the team :(
I really do question the personnel decisions made the past two or three years
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
I Never Know What You're Going to Say
and I don’t always agree with you or even see your point sometimes. But damn, your way of saying it is always, always epically hilarious.
"I was interviewing George Halas and I asked him who is the greatest running back you ever saw. And he said, 'That would be Red Grange.' And I asked him if Grange was playing today, how many yards do you think he'd gain. And he said, 'About 750, maybe 800 yards.' And I said, 'Well, 800 yards is just okay.' He sat up in his chair and he said, 'Son, you must remember one thing. Red Grange is 75 years old.' - Chris Berman
by Sam Householder on Sep 4, 2010 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Dallas traded Patrick Crayton to the Chargers
… That means Vincent Jackson will be dealt.
I don’t think the Bears need to inquire about Jackson, but with the Vikings needing WR help…
… I would keep an eye on this development.
Semper Fi
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They got him for a 7th.
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Wow!?
… And with Malcolm Floyd showing that he is MORE than capable of being a starter— I think the Chargers got the better end of this deal.
Semper Fi
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 3, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I would think the charges did. Jackson doesn't look like he'll budge
so this is a cheap and logical move to help bolster their receiving corp.
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That's what I said. :-)
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 3, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
He'll be a Viking
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 3, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
That's my fear, Les.
That puts the Vikings RIGHT back in the talks of winning the division.
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 3, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
... And I will be totally wasted off Don Julio by Monday and waiting for Bulls season when it does.
:-/
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 3, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
i believe they do. Cause they don't want to pay Housh his 7 mil.
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The Hawks cut Whosyomamma to make space for V-Jack .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Sep 3, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what I'm hoping for.
Much rather see him in Seattle. Although if he goes to Minnesota, he and Jared Allen could go DUI collecting together.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
So, T-Jack to V-Jack?
(Once Farve’s decrepit old ankle crumbles into dust courtesy of #90.)
I really hope not, cuz that’s going to significantly increase my beverage costs this season.
Agreed!
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 3, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
You guys see this play yet? Heads up football right there.
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Cutler splits out wide from the Wildcat...
And may be safer throwing out there, protected by his own mobility, than in the pocket.
Housh...championship!
It’s being reported that he’s going to be traded or released by the Seadawgs.
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
Replaced by
Mike “freakin’” Williams!
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
Heard that too.
… Seems like age crept up on him in Seattle.
He might have some go in those legs, but not at $7 million.
Semper Fi
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 3, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I think not having Chad Johnson lined up down the sideline from him
is what caught up with him. Another in a long line of overachieving #2’s who couldn’t make it as a #1.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
Absurd!
Some of last years starters are now this years early cuts!
Do you need more evidence that the talent evaluation on this team in Non-Existant!! ??
Afalava was a good option last season, but fell off late in the season, and hasn't looked the same since the shoulder injury.
Cutting him was a good choice. We improved the position with Wright and Harris. Payne and Afalava were the casualties.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 3, 2010 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
He was a 6th rounder
So really nothing to get irritated by. It’s expected these guys won’t pan out.
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
I know for a fact, that 12 months ago Love said "we really like our safeties."
And now, the safety he started last year, is cut.
He’s either a completely worthless talent evalulator (as evidence by his rotating sack of crap at safety), or he’s an F’n BS, mother f’n big fat f’n lying sack o sh*t.
Just like the time he said “we really like Chad Hutchinson.” and cut him 2 weeks later.
I can’t stand our lame a55 coach, and our pathetic team. We’re junk.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
by SackMan on Sep 3, 2010 10:42 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
So, technically your last sentence should have probably read...
“I really like our head coach” if you really wanted to see him gone.
So......
he was supposed to come out and say “Our safeties suck, but it’s all I’ve got to work with”? Really? Come on. Bitching is all well and good, but at least bitch about something that you actually have a reasonable remedy for….
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 3, 2010 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
reasonable remedy?
Fire himself
Quit drafting shit. We know JA’s the pick guru but Lovie has to have some input
by TheMan1 on Sep 3, 2010 11:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
note the question, TM
The problem I have is complaining about Lovie (and anyone here who’s read my comments knows that I’m throwing a block-party when Lovie gets his walking papers) saying that he liked his safeties and Hutch when they sucked. My point is that expecting him to come out and say….
“God damnit, these safeties couldn’t cover a piece if bread with peanut butter, much less cover an NFL receiver on gameday”
or “Hutch is about the worst mistake this franchise has made in bringing in backup QB talent”…..
is a lot like expecting a coach to throw away his career without a fight.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 4, 2010 4:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I think Sack Man's point was
Lovie always seems to try and pile it on a little too thick. He could always:
1) Not comment about an obvious position of weakness
or
2) Just stay neutral and say “it’s a work in progress” or something like that
Instead, he’ll try and come off like our biggest weakness is a position of strength or something. This act has gotten old.
To be fair, though...
…I find covering a piece of bread with crunchy peanut butter is always slightly more difficult than with smooth, but the trade-off is well worth while. Crunchy just seems tastier to me.
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This is an "open thread"
= you can tell us how you really feel
by TheMan1 on Sep 3, 2010 11:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Big hairy donkey balls.
Oh, you asked for “how” and not “what”? My mistake…..
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
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Why the false choice.
I personally have long believed Lovie is both a worthless talent evaluator and an F’n BS, mother f’n big fat f’n lying sack o sh*t.
Exhibit A: “Rex Grossman is our Quarterback”.
by No It All on Sep 4, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This↑
+1
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1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 4, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Not because I think Smith should....
come out swinging on his players in the media, but because it’s funny as hell and true as well.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 4, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Lovie has plenty of company
Angelo drafted the guy, and everyone wants to place blame on the HC. Every HC won’t divulge details on what they really think. Would you? No, because your employer/boss would sit you down (if you weren’t fired without a talk) and put a gag order on you. Think of it as riot control. AA was a late round pick, so I’m not sure what the fuss is all about. I loved the guy coming out, but it was obvious to anyone that isn’t blind, that he regressed beyond comprehension the past year or so. I like everyone of their safeties better than AA, so to me they made a great move.
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
This too↑
+1. I’m not sure what the fuss is about. Afalava did not look as good at the end of the season las year than he did at the beginning, and looked even worse in pre-season this year against worse competion. Some players do regress, and I wonder how much the late season shoulder injury affected Al.
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1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 4, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Juaquin Iglesias informed of his release ....
…… so says Sean Jensen via Twitter .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
Jarron Gilbert released.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
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Not to surprised
about his release I guess….2009 draft was horrific for Angelo like most eh?
Getting to know Mike Martz offense with this offensive line? It’s just hours of pure boredom interrupted by moments of unbelievable horror.
- Jay Cutler
by CloudyFuture on Sep 4, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
WoW
#Bears have informed Josh Beekman he will be waived
per Biggs twitter
Getting to know Mike Martz offense with this offensive line? It’s just hours of pure boredom interrupted by moments of unbelievable horror.
- Jay Cutler
Beekman is a bum.
His only upside is that he’s young… although, if Tice couldn’t develop him, maybe he’s a lost cause.
I like Beekman
For some reason i always stood up for the guy, but if not even at Guard, i thought he was going to be our heir apparent at center when kreutz is done. I am actually pretty shocked by this.
by Chitownproduct on Sep 4, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
They screw up a lot of good Boston College Linemen...
cough marc columbo? Jerry Angelo just needs to stay away from BC linemen. He has no luck with them (but most other teams seem to do well with them).
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Sep 4, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Once Eddie Williams and Juaquin Iglesias are officially released,
by my count that will leave only three more moves to be made to hit the magic number of 53.
Bell or Wolfe? They want to keep a lot of secondary, at least right at the start of the season.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
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True, depends on how many OL they want to hang on to. I’m surprised about Iglesias and Gilbert, and also Beekman. Is it indicative of a “win now” mentality?
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
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Seems that Bell and Wolfe will probably both stay on the roster, if Biggs has got his sums right.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
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There will be more cuts...
besides the two required because I do believe the Bears will be picking up players from waivers. I think Asiata is a lock but they need a back up C (all they have is Garza right now.) I don’t see Edwin Williams making this squad either. There must be better talent available. Garret Wolfe is a decent ST player but I really wouldn’t mind seeing him cut. I guess we don’t have any further defensive cuts then either, although, again, if a quality DB becomes available I wouldn’t be surprised if they let Bullocks go. Or even Jennings for that matter.
T.J. Houshmandzadeh cut by Seahawks today
Veteram receiver with decent credentials, I know I am dreaming but we could really use one proven veteran on this staff. I still like our youth at this position but that only goes so far. Is this guy some kind of locker room cancer or something? I know we need O line more importantly but nobody is cutting solid proven lineman this morning. Thoughts?
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Sep 4, 2010 1:28 PM CDT reply actions
TJ can go fly a kite for all I care . His got a bad .....
……… attuide , declining skills and is not a good fit for this offense . Do we really need a trash talking has been in our locker room ? Na let the Queens have him .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Sep 4, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
* He's*
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Sep 4, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
So thats an affirmative on the locker cancer thing?
I am not as confident in our wide outs as you seem to be. Again I like them long term but this season is apon us and I would like to compete. Just saying….
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Sep 4, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Zulgad tweets
they don’t want him for the moment.
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
by ifuwannacrownem on Sep 4, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Willie Parker cut by the Skins
He’s healthy. He wasn’t horrible in the preseason. He’s available. we NEED a guy like Parker as the third RB.
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
dissing Garrett wolfe, not cool.
Your going to have a 5 foot 7 brother at your front door in a few hours to put the smack down sir. He is still a Bear this minute at least……….
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Sep 4, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
i grow an extra 7 inches
if i’m touched in the right spots…
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
by ifuwannacrownem on Sep 4, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
rofl
Football is all about “inches” by the way.
by Chitownproduct on Sep 4, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
5 foot 7brotherhamster
Fixed it for ya.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
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Please no
He’s older than dirt, and the team already has a full-house at RB. It’s truly unbelievable that Wolfy made the roster; I can’t pick anyone who had worse preseason games.
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
It's should be a consideration if either Wolfe or Bell (or both) are cut
I think this can finally be a good running team, if we distribute the load amongst backs that can actually run the football.
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
by ifuwannacrownem on Sep 4, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
The O-line sets up the run
without a decent line the run goes nowhere. Everyone but Lovie and JA seem to understand this point.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Sep 4, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
i've been seeing good running throughout preseason.
but that good running has been from Taylor and Forte. not the other two.
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
by ifuwannacrownem on Sep 4, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed,
especially off tackle with Krutz and Louis pulling. Also I loved the play they ran last week with Manumaleuna and Olsen lined up next to each other on the right side. Sprang Chester for a nice pick-up.
Me too
Omi, Louis, and Kreutz are great on the move. Hopefully that continues into the season.
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
Forte and Taylor are getting the carries
The third and fourth sting guys are Special Teams First and may play a few snaps on offense.
I love 3rd round draft picks turning into ST studs!
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
Well, we do put more emphasis on ST play than most!
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
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So does anyone want to dispute
JA’s 3rd round effort last year, or do we still want to diss only Lovie for the team’s ills? Would’ve been nice to get an O-linemen and safety in last year’s draft instead of reaching for Iglesias and Pool jumper.
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
exactly why we need to work the free agency route and waiver wires
We draft like sh*t, plain and simple.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Sep 4, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Would’ve been nice to get an O-linemen and safety in last year’s draft
We did! We got Louis and Alfalava. Yeah!
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
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Louis is turning out to be a real find
but getting another guard/center would’ve been nice, and an impact safety or CB.
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
We (they) thought Alfalava was a real find last season. I’ll reserve judgement for the time being.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
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Yeah, he fell off the side of the earth.
We all thought he was on his way to being a solid starter.
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
I for one am shocked how bad Alfalava looked this preseason
At the end of last year I thought he would be ok with another year or two under his belt. WTF happened to this guy in the offseason? Crack rock will rot the brain my friend, say no to drugs Al. Good luck wherever you land.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Sep 4, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Your'e shocked!
I am dumbfounded, how in the world does a player digress that much in one year? Not saying he was the second coming of Ronnie Lot last year, but with another year in the system etc etc, how in the world did he fall off like that? That’s a mystery to me.
by Chitownproduct on Sep 4, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Here is how the Trib is seeing the final 53:
QB (3): Jay Cutler, Todd Collins, Caleb Hanie
RB (4): Matt Forte, Chester Taylor, Kahlil Bell, Garrett Wolfe
WR (5): Johnny Knox, Devin Hester, Devin Aromashodu, Rashied Davis, Earl Bennett
TE (4): Greg Olsen, Brandon Manumaleuna, Desmond Clark, Kellen Davis
OL (8): Chris Williams, Roberto Garza, Olin Kreutz, Lance Louis, Frank Omiyale, Kevin Shaffer, J’Marcus Webb, Johan Asiata
DL (9): Julius Peppers, Tommie Harris, Anthony Adams, Israel Idonije, Mark Anderson, Matt Toeaina, Henry Melton, Marcus Harrison, Corey Wootton
LB (6): Brian Urlacher, Lance Briggs, Pisa Tinoisamoa, Hunter Hillenmeyer, Nick Roach, Brian Iwuh
CB (6): Charles Tillman, Zack Bowman, Corey Graham, D.J, Moore, Tim Jennings, Josh Moore
S (5): Chris Harris, Danieal Manning, Major Wright, Craig Steltz, Josh Bullocks
SPEC (3): Robbie Gould, Pat Mannelly, Brad Maynard
Keep 4 RBs
Why? Why hang on to Wolfe…..cant see that….but hey what ever I guess….Wolfe fans will like it I guess…..
Getting to know Mike Martz offense with this offensive line? It’s just hours of pure boredom interrupted by moments of unbelievable horror.
- Jay Cutler
Keeping Bell and Wolfe
Makes it look like they can’t decide which one to cut.
This 53 is only gonna be 51 anyway, They’ll pick up 2 other from waivers elsewhere and have to make room. 2 is my estimate.
God help them if they can’t find just 2 players cast off from elsewhere that are better than our entire 53.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Sep 4, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks a little thin at WR
An injury or two and it could be in bad shape. I guess they’ll try to keep two WRs on the PS.
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
during the radio
broadcasts they talked about how Martz viewed Olsen as a WR/TE….if that means anything….
Getting to know Mike Martz offense with this offensive line? It’s just hours of pure boredom interrupted by moments of unbelievable horror.
- Jay Cutler
that seems to be the most likely answer. that olsen is a wr, like dallas clark is a wr.
ish.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
That makes sense
It would be nice if Olsen has a Dallas Clark type of year.
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
50 out of 53
I missed Iglesias, Beekman, & Gilbert. I really thought they would try to redshirt Wootton this year w a mysterious injury so they could keep Gilbert. I’m shocked they’re only going w 5 WRs especially since Bennett is hurt & hasn’t played at all.
by Mike Mueller on Sep 4, 2010 4:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I kind of like the D-line
Toeaina and Melton made cases for themselves, and that sealed Gilbert’s fate. Hopefully, they can get him and Iglesias to the practice squad.
What’s the rule again? The team claiming a waived player has keep him on the active roster, correct?
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
Center
Who’s going to play center if Kreutz gets injured?
by boondock_saint812 on Sep 4, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
D-Clark
No, I believe it will be Asiata.
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
Bear site notes that the Bears are confident in Garza's ability to play center should Kruetz go down......
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1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 4, 2010 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't realize Garza played C.
Hopefully it doesn’t come to that. Keeping Asiata and Webb make the O-line look a little younger with a higher upside.
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
Bills cut James Hardy
Big bodied project receiver that we can use. definitely worth a look.
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
From my understanding
Martz is not a big body WR guy….Likes small speedy WRs…..Or so the legend goes….
Getting to know Mike Martz offense with this offensive line? It’s just hours of pure boredom interrupted by moments of unbelievable horror.
- Jay Cutler
yeah, but Jay likes big guys
and he’s the QB, not Martz. at the same time we need a guy that will grab those high passes jay loves to toss around.
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes.
by ifuwannacrownem on Sep 4, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
but Martz has input on the roster while I think Jay does not…..Otherwise DA would be starting I would think….
Getting to know Mike Martz offense with this offensive line? It’s just hours of pure boredom interrupted by moments of unbelievable horror.
- Jay Cutler
If you want a big body
with some speed, forget Hardy and go get Marko Mitchell. Guy was a monster in college, had a hell of a pre-season last year, and the Redskins just wanted to roster purge some this year.
we have someone like that
his name is Devin Aromashadou
So, our top two draft choices from 2009 are now gone?
We only have 3 guys from the entire 2009 draft still on our roster?
This is terms for being fired.
Michael Johnson would have been a much better pick than Gilbert, and Johnson was there for the taking and rated as a 1st round talent. Instead… we pick the pool jumper.
The Bengals took Johnson two picks later…. dude’s awesome.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Beekman and Shaw
Are about the only 2 that made me say hmmm.
Shaw I can almost see, we are deep at that position and you have to do more than just ST. (Here’s looking at you Wolfe)
Starting to think Wolfe has a Rudy thing going on or something. Undersized, never really does anything but has a good attitude. Everybody now…. Wolf-e… Wolf-e…. Wolf-e
by TheMan1 on Sep 4, 2010 6:00 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Happy to see...
Pool jumper go and Melton stay. Not real sure about Wooten, but he’s to new to let go. Beekman started out on the right track, but steadily regressed. I’m now even more angry about the LeFlavor drafting; he actually played well enough to be a 3rd QB (honestly to my surprise). He was so flippin’ special (“a steal”) and they cut him? Why not have taken a good O-lineman prospect? The bears coaches/FO are just idiotic. Iglesias and Gilbert have to rank up there with Haynes and Bauzin. The Bears need to drop Asiata and Wolfe and get a solid vet WR and a guard prospect. Let’s also hope Wooten is worth keeping!
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
Pretty sure Lefevour will end up on the practice squad.
Dan was a 6th round developmental pick. Not a bad move, IMO. Agree with you on Gilbert and Iglesias (especially Iglesias). And to think…..
JAX took Terrance Knighton, probably the best Rookie DT last season just 4 picks later and SD took Louis Vasquez, who was the starting RG for the Chargers last year just 6 picks after that. And JAX took Mike Thomas 8 picks after the Bears took Julio, and Miami took Brian Hartline 1 pick later. Thomas started 14 games and had 48 receptions for JAX and Hartline was the Dolphins #3 and had over 500 yards receiving, 3 receiving TDs and a rushing TD.
You almost have to wonder if they were trying to screw up the draft……
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1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 4, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
It's OK...
to be cutesy with draft picks when your team does not have glaring holes like these Bears did/do. I would buy the “draft value” argument if they ever found any value through the draft. The only consolation I have is that Lovie and JA are likely to be unemployed before the end of this season!
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
I can never really question taking a D-linemen
They reached a little for Gilbert, but they did with Melton as well. The latter seems ready to contribute a little this season.
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
It's not about reaching...
for one guy at any position, it’s about saying that taking a d-linemen in the 3rd round is OK, but not a guard or RT. Even if said guard/RT is better at his position. I agree that not every draftee is a future HOF, but finding any guy than can contribute at any position, regardless of what round they are picked in is the important first step. Once the basic talent is determined, then people can talk value and other sorts of minutia. To me, it’s like putting the cart before the horse. That is what JAs problem becomes. He’s either just bad at assessing talent or he tries to fit the lesser guys into “value” positions. Specific to your post, i don’t see Melton as a reach, he’s just a middle tier guy with some potential taken in the later rounds. There were many better players taken well after Gilbert; JA referred to Gilbert as some sort of “steal” or “value” in that draft round. I guarantee Wootten is the next former Bear “draft steal”; a draft bust!
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
I guarantee Wootten is the next former Bear "draft steal"; a draft bust!
Wooten was a probably projected 1st rounder who dropped because of concern over his existing knee injury and a decrease in production resulting from playing while still recovering from said injury. Gilbert was never rated that highly, nor did he fall due to injury concerns, if memory serves.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
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While you have the facts correct...
I stand by that prediction. I do not see him being very good, injured or otherwise. The reality is he wasn’t drafted in the first round for a legitimate reason, he may not recover from his injuries enough to be anything other then a serviceable backup. I guess that was more of the point I was making. The Bears need to start drafting good players and coach them to be great. Not drafting on potential with asterisks and caveats like “could have been a first rounder”. According to JA et al, Haynes was a first rounder, and Bazuin was a second. It’s like buying an extra car because it’s on sale. Yes it may be a good deal, but how much use will you get out of it?
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
Wootten WILL start for the Bears at SOME point this season
I have been saying this since we drafted him.
He is ging to be a premier player in the league.
He will be right up there with Mathis, Peppers, Freeney and Williams.
Period.
SO...
what’s the bet then. I don’t see Wooten making any impact at all. You see him starting. We need to make some god internet wager…any thoughts??
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
wait….he doesn’t have to mean it, right?
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 6, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
OK...
And If I win you have to change your avatar pic to this:
In either case, we’ll make the change for 1 month, sound fair? In my book, Wootten will have to start at least one game. We can argue about the aftermath when he does!
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
Ok
I’m saying Wootten will be a starter for the Bears at some point, which intales him starting One game or more, and you are stating he won’t start at all, but just get playing time, Correct?
Yeah, I'll be glad when Lovie, JA and Co are gone......
I won’t root for the Bears to loose to make it happen, but the firing of JA, Lovie and CO. will be a fine consolation prize if the season goes badly.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 4, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe its just me, he may have always been this bad but
How can JA suck so bad at drafting? It seems like he has gotten worse in recent years, has something changed or has he always been this terrible at drafting and I haven’t noticed?
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
Why complain about draft ability when
most have complained in the past that JA and Lovie hang onto their high draft picks too long?
Maybe, for the first time in a long time they are figuring out to cut their losses and letting go of draft choices that are not panning out?
Also, they changed out the person responsible for scouting talent (I forget the title) this off season which kind of erases the drafts of the past (except for An-jello and Lubbie influences).
Here the frony office changes I was thinking of..
The front office was made over with the exits of pro personnel director Bobby DePaul and college scouting director Greg Gabriel and the addition of Tim Ruskell as director of player personnel
Don't worry...Obama will fix it.
Lefevour is out.
which is ridiculous. Absolutely wasted pick. Immediately ranks up there with the all time worsts
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
First, link please.
I haven’t seen anything that says they won’t put him on the practice squad. And second, How can a 6th round pick be ranked amongst the worst? You would place that one up there with Michael Haynes? Or trading our ’07 2nd round pick and Thomas Jones away for the jets 2nd rounder, that we would then trade back down to get the 2nd round pick right before our original, and a late 3rd rounder, and take Dan Bazuin and Garrett Wolfe? Or David Terrell? Hell, the Bears just cut their top 2 picks from last year, and you are going to rank a 6th round value pickas amongst the worst ever?
OMG……
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 4, 2010 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Have to agree
Way too many stupid pick for the fever being considered. That might be a good debate, Top 10 jackass moves by JA. Overpaying, poor draft choice, stupid trades, wow. I have a feeling the list might be top 10 with 100 answers.
by TheMan1 on Sep 4, 2010 9:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I just posted a fanpost about JAs stupid draft moves....
personnel mistakes will be next
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 5, 2010 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
I would put it in the top 12. You named seven, so I’ll put it after those in some order.
up there with the all time worstsdoesn’t necessarily mean worse than all of those, but down the road it may. So take it easy there picasso.
As of now he’s not on the team— taken in a draft spot where they easily could have found line depth, but instead draft a guy guaranteed to be the third quarterback. This team rarely if ever carries 3 QB’s— why draft for a roster spot you know you won’t have?
In all the examples you named, those players were taken to fill in a place where a body was needed.
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
The team typically not carrying 3 QBs is what makes it a decent pick
Lefevour was a late choice (making him PS material and probably a 99% chance not to get taken by someone else in waivers).
The Bears have chosen to keep their 3rd QB on the PS (see Basanez). I think that was the initial plan again now that Basanez was no longer PS eligible. The injury to Hanie might have been worse than expected or the management saw Cutler getting tore up in the preseason and was forced to change thought processes.
When there was discussion on LeFevour during draft I believe he had a huge potential upside, probably never a #1 but solid backup and in the cheap.
by TheMan1 on Sep 4, 2010 11:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Cincinatti picked him up
and he will be on the 53 man roster as a back up QB.
Go BIG or go home
This year we have to win the Big Boy Bowl or be the absolute worst team in the NFL. This is the only way things will get done for this team. We can try to get that number 1 pick next year or win the Lombardi trophy.
by Jonathan Heun Jr on Sep 4, 2010 10:51 PM CDT reply actions
I disagree
In other sports (hockey basketball) when your a middle of the pack team its hard to get good young players, they are very rarely found outside the top picks, with a few exceptions of course. Football is different most teams look at a top 7 or higher pick as a curse just because of the money you have to pay.
We see teams that do well in the draft finding good value at the ends of each respective round. Don’t get me wrong a higher draft pick usually increases the chance that the player is not a bust but a high draft pick is not a prerequisite to find a good player imo.
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But based on the last few drafts it doesn’t matter how many picks or how high they are, the Bears will just get old and slow if they keep cutting their highest draft picks from the year before. The team needs to find more capable drafters or this will be the 4th best team in the NFC North before long.
"Sorry bro, he Jason Bourned me"- Drama
In other news...
… Nathan Vasher was released by the Chargers.
A little comforting to see that Lovie and Angelo were right about something.
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Kevin Payne was placed on IR for the Rams
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 5, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Bobby Engram was released by the Browns
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 5, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Brandon McGowan was placed on IR by the Pats.
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Jason McKie was cut by the Saints
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And Mark Bradley had already gone in the cut to 75.
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BTW what happened to
Adrian Peterson…I didn’t even notice when he left the team. Was it this offseason or the year before?
He wasn’t re-signed this offseason when his contract expired.
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