The Bears Den: September 30, 2010
by Dane Noble on Sep 30, 2010 7:00 AM CDT
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Each NFL team will dress 45 of their 53 players for a game... and it should always be the 45 that will give the team the best chance to win, without exception.
Larry Mayer looks at Greg Olsen's role in the offense thus far.
Brad Biggs talks about the Tommie Harris situation.
John "Moon" Mullin says not to expect Chris Williams or Major Wright on Sunday.
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Moon also points out that Lovie Smith has always held players accountable.
Neil Hayes talks about how the offense is expected to evolve.
Aromashodu speaks up about his deactivation against the Packers.
Lovie Smith heaps praise upon the offensive line and their adjustments.
Steve Rosenbloom offers his thoughts on the Lovie Smith game plan.
Sean Jensen has a second article on Bears players' cars.
The most recent Team Report, courtesty of USA Today.
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The smartest thing to come out of the decision to bench Tommie
Was to do it early in the season rather than to let it be an issue later on down, when they could be fighting for a spot in the playoffs. To be honest, D.A. Is the more suprising of the two. He was made some errors in the detroit game, but week 1?
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by ifuwannacrownem on Sep 30, 2010 7:46 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Keep in mind, though.
His issues came right as Bennett was coming back, as well. They wanted to work Bennett into the gameplan anyways, and the receiver who had simultaneously the best/worst game was DA
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Oh boy. I sure can't get enough about the special teams edge.
Seriously, though. I thought he’d be more of a factor this season. Deactivating him was unexpected.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Sep 30, 2010 8:55 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And Downfield Blocking
Earl blocks his but off. With guys like Knox and Hester, often one good block can spring them after a catch. I think several of DA’s drops were understandable in game 1 — he got clobbered just as the ball arrived. I think what got him in trouble as much as anything was he would stand there after a teammate made a reception. Got to run to the action and knock someone.
Bennett is a good blocker.
DA is just miscast as a slot guy. I’ve said it before, DA should get about half the reps at X, allowing Knox some time at the slot.
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 30, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
bingo.
DA, Knox and Hester on the field are still probably the 3 best receivers we have.
‘We put the best 45 on the field’. Mmmhmm.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Sep 30, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
+1...
DA can get separation in bump-and-run coverage and tends to catch best over the top of the defense or behind it. He’s not a slot guy who runs drags, hooks and crosses and looks for YAC. He’s a tall burner, and a damn good red zone threat. IMO, he needs to be the short yardage WR or the home run ball compliment to Knox/Hester. Bennett is a better across the middle/slot WR. T Harris has a long history of underperforming, DA does not. I do not get the DA benching.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO TRADE TOMMY!...
You Are Correct
That seems like a logical rotation.
On getting clobbered...
If anyone could shed some light on the issue, because this is largely my own speculation. It seems that DA had a comment or two about Cutler’s passes getting him clobbered. The next two weeks he was benched. Cutler said he was banged up and Martz said that he didn’t understand the slot. I was thinking maybe he got sat down because to understand the slot, you need to know that you’re going to get hit often and sometimes really hard. IMO, Martz and Cutler may have been offended by his complaints. Thus Cutler might say he’s too banged to play (because he complained about getting hit), and Martz might say he doesn’t understand the slot (because you will get hit there). Potentially, they are making the point to him that other guys are willing to get hit and if he’s not he can hold a clip board. Again, this is just a thought. Please let me know if anyone else got this sort of feeling from the comments over the past two weeks.
What's that? Ah -- Playoffs? Don't talk about -- playoffs?! You kidding me?! Playoffs?! - Jim Mora
agree with Scully, disagree with L.A.W jr.
I got the same vibes from JC and Martz. I only disagree with Les because I think the situation on the field should determine where these guys line up. I like DA on the outside in the red zone but Martz wants to be able to move his receivers around and keep the D off balance. If DA won’t play slot aggressively they have no choice but to sit him down and go with the guys that will do what needs to be done.
by 62bearsthe best on Sep 30, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
B&B and ESPN 1000
guys seem to indicate that DA had went to Martz about playing the slot and not liking it so now he is being benched or not played….So take that for what it is worth…
It was very boring. Followed by a short period of terrifying….
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for Sunday's with the current offensive line
by CloudyFuture on Sep 30, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I want to see the Bears either get Henry Melton goal line carries
Or add a big bruising RB from somebody’s practice squad. Anyone get to see what LeGarrette Blount did for the Bucs on the goal line last week vs the Steelers? And he was claimed off waivers from the Titans.
We NEED a runner like that, because we cannot convert any short yardage situations. Look at John Kuhn from the Pack… Leron McLain from the Ravens… these guys don’t get stopped on short yardage. We need a guy, and Harvey Unga is on IR.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
I'm not sure if it's our lack of a bruiser,
or just our OL being very, very poor in the trenches. While Martz and Tice can make in-game adjustments to counter the pass rush (screens, cuts, traps, pulls, misdirections, etc), when it comes to running inside the tackles, our OL gets pushed stright backwards.
There’s not a RB in the league that could run through our OL going backwards, PLUS the oncoming DL.
For the last two years I've watched Forte get stopped over and over and over again.
He doesn’t have a nose for the goal line… runs upright, and can’t keep churning to move a pile.
Yes our Oline sucks… but the right runner can move the pile for a yard, or find that little crack and push through.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
True about Forte,
he is definitely more of an open-field, shifty type RB. That’s what he was at Tulane too… that’s just his thing.
BUT, I wouldn’t necessarily write Chester Taylor off yet either. I agree that in a short yardage situation, a bruiser RB could move a pile forward a yard. But that is also in a situation where the OL is at least holding their own, not getting blown backwards. When both the OL and DL are a yard deep in the backfield by the time the RB is moving forward, it all goes out the window, no matter if it’s Chester, Melton, or the Fridge.
Ditto from me
I’d give Melton a shot, cause Forte obviously doesn’t have the vision in short yardage either. Did you see the 4th down play against the Lions? Manu, I believe, was the lead and Forte had a crease to bounce it outside. Instead he ran right into the backs of his linemen. He would’ve walked into the EZ if he followed his lead.
"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo
I think the vision thing...
is Forte’s problem. He is shifty in open space, but he really just lacks the instinct for between the tackles running.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO TRADE TOMMY!...
Even Khalil Bell would be a step in the right direction
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by BearNecessities on Sep 30, 2010 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't mind seeing
Melton get the GL carries.
Or what about Manu?
Isn’t Manu the “fullback”
A dozen for Devin baby
I'd Go With Chester
He almost never gets stoned. He’s not as fast as Forte, but he almost always gets some forward progress.
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Bratwurst and ganja.
Or Funions!!!
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Oct 1, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Henry Melton
I agree with SackMan get Melton in the game and Wolfe. Let Wolfe get behind Melton so thet can’t see him or are unsure of who’s going to carry the ball. Also Melton has been getting to the quarterback in his limited playing time, and he is aggresive.
That's why Wolfe goes behind Melton.
Everyone assumes Melton has the ball, they all pile on him, in the confusion somehow Wolfe squirts through and dances in the endzone while eleven other guys are piling on eachother.
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 30, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions
The only way Wolfe squirts through anything in short-yardage situations
is if he squeezes down one sprinkler head behind the line of scrimmage and pops back up through one in the end zone.
It's an imperfect plan, sure
Could always just piggyback Wolfe on Melton, that’s a combined 400 pounds of RB and I’m sure Melton could carry him.
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 30, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Manu at fb/H-back?
Or even a TE screen. He’s pretty tough to bring down.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Sep 30, 2010 9:08 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I wasn't aware
we were accepting serious, plausible solutions in this conversation.
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 30, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
i was assuming ya'll were.
Anything’s better than what we’re doing now.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Sep 30, 2010 9:38 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd take that as a challenge
but I think I’d find myself planted on my ass in short order.
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 30, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Melton could just toss Wolfe over the pile
or is dwarf tossing illegal? No bad idea, someone would just catch Wolfe and return him for a 99 yard TD.
by 62bearsthe best on Sep 30, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Ding ding ding ding!!!!
We have a winner!!!!
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Kreutz snaps to Mannely
who long snaps Wolfe over the pile. Of course, considering the awesomeness of PM, this play could be run from anywhere on the field.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Fridge tried that in the 85 Dallas game...TD called back on penalty
Illegally assisting runner.
to be green!
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 30, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Are they allowed to grease him up?
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Webb and Wolfe
Have Wolfe stand in Webb’s shoulders and Cutler toss the ball up to him. Wolfe could just jump over.
by TheMan1 on Sep 30, 2010 2:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
On a funny side note
My friend just emailed this to me yesterday. The funniest part is….. I’M THE ONE WHO MADE THIS PICTURE LIKE 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO! If anyone remembers me from the Northwoods Bears website… that’s when I made it.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
by SackMan on Sep 30, 2010 8:29 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
And the circle is closed. LOL
On a side note, is that kid deucing while wearing his knickers, or is that just the shadow?
Shadow? Or Wrinkles... lol
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
northwoods bears
I remember when you made this there. Its great. And the northwoods bears was a good site. I still miss it…
by Roger_lederer on Sep 30, 2010 10:56 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
ps
Did anyone else make it over from northwoods bears? Sackman, you’re the only name I’ve seen that made it…
by Roger_lederer on Sep 30, 2010 10:57 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think I'm the only one.... haven't heard from the other guys in a logn time.
Georgia Jeff was here I think.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Awesomely awesome!
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BBV: If you could take one player off the Giants roster and put him in your lineup, who would it be? Why?
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Nice!
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 30, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
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Yeah, reading their comments over there, the Giants fans seem pretty sensitive. Keep representing, Dane!
by ClawsClawsClaws on Sep 30, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
That is awesome.
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by Ditkavsworld on Sep 30, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
On the goaline
does anyone else want to see Forte, Taylor, or whomever is the RB try to dive over the pile instead of trying to act like a battering ram? The line hasn’t got a push, but they’ve certainly held their ground enough for the back to get a running start.
"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo
Like this?
I want to see it too.
by boondock_saint812 on Sep 30, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Nobody can do it quite like that.
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Even half of that would get the job done!
"How do you know somebody is great? When you see how they respond to adversity. Anybody can man a ship when the waters are calm." - Jerry Angelo
Maybe Wolfe could catapult using one of our linemen who is laying on their backs
by TheMan1 on Sep 30, 2010 2:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I beleive there is a penalty relating to illegal leverage
It was called on the Fridge in 1985 or 1986 for trying to pick up Payton and carry him into the endzone. Dont know if the rule is still on the books but I remember Johnny Morris talking about how it it illegal to setup any kind of gadget play involving what your describing.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Sep 30, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
MY bad
Somebody already referenced this play earlier in the thread. sorry for being redundant.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Sep 30, 2010 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
E. Smith might have ended up with more yards but I never saw him do that
or put a Blitzing LT on his butt.
by 62bearsthe best on Sep 30, 2010 11:58 AM CDT reply actions
Seahawks cut a 300 pound lineman this morning
Chester Pitts a 308 lb guard was let go today, guy played for the texans for about 7 years. Anybody know anything about this guy? Just thinking about Oline options.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Sep 30, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's Sign Gilbert Back
He can pool jump over the line and crush anyone he comes down on!!!
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Oct 1, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
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