WCG Key Match-Up: Bears Pass Protection vs. Giants Pass Rush
Jay Cutler is a tough S.O.B. - with that said, the Bears need to improve their pass protection if they want to continue this hot streak that they are on. It's one thing that is keeping this offense from taking the next step, and if they don't want to experience Todd Collins throwing those 15 yard dig routes, they better put a better emphasis in protecting Jay and not allowing him to take a lot of those Frank Zombo shots. This offensive line's next test will be against a Giants defensive line that can throw different types of pass rushers at you. We know the usual suspects with Justin Tuck and Osi Umenyiora, but they also have a pretty good player in Mathias Kiwanuka who is a starter opposite of Tuck, and some young talent they can rotate in, in Jason Pierre-Paul. Although the Bears struggled in that Monday night game against the Packers, they did improve a bit in the second half. If the Bears want to showcase an explosive offense this Sunday night, this line needs to carry that performance on against the Giants.
LT Frank Omiyale vs. RE Mathias KiwanukaKiwanuka is no Clay Matthews, but he's an all around good defensive end that Omiyale will have his hands full with. For Omiyale, he has to be on his best game as far as instincts and lateral quickness to be able to contain Kiwanuka. I expect to see some chip blocking on Omiyale's side from the running back, but Tice will be counting on Omiyale to hold his own against Kiwanuka. The reason for that is because Manumalena and Olsen will be needed to help Shaffer out against Tuck from time to time.
LG Roberto Garza vs. DT Chris Canty
A wash of a match-up in my opinion, as I feel Garza has the ability to contain Canty and not get overwhelmed. Canty is not that good of a pass rusher so Garza needs to take advantage of that. Our interior line needs to create a clean pocket for Jay to step into his throws.
Kreutz will have the job of helping both Garza and Louis if they need it, and also be able to pick up stunts in blitzes that will be headed in his direction.
RG Lance Louis vs. DT Barry Cofield
Lance Louis has been making good improvements in pass protection, and actually graded out well in the past game against the Packers. He will need to carry that into this game against a pretty good veteran DT in Barry Cofield. Just like Canty, Cofield is used more as a run stuffing DT than a pass rushing DT. That doesn't necessary mean Louis will have a good day in pass protection, as Cofield is an experienced Vet that can make Louis pay for his lack of experience on some plays.
RT Kevin Shaffer vs. LE Justin Tuck/Osi Umenyiora
Shaffer played pretty good against Matthews, but I still expect Tice to give Shaffer some help against a still pretty good pass rusher in Tuck. Kevin Shaffer will need to take away Tuck's inside move and also do a good job pushing him out of the play when he rushes outside. He's going to get plenty of help, but he also can't be to relying on it and has to be able to win some one on one battles with Tuck.
Matt Forte/Chester Taylor vs. Giants Blitzes
While Chester Taylor has been good at picking up those corner blitzes, Forte seems to struggle at it. That's something that needs to improve as the Giants like to send Blitzes on third downs sometimes in 3 man fronts.
Greg Olsen/Brandon Manumaleuna/Desmond Clark vs. DE's and Blitz's
Can you say bizzaro world? Greg Olsen so far has been the better blocking TE of the two, while Bran-Man has been struggling mightily and so far looking like a free agent bust. On the bright side, he did seem to be turning the corner in the Monday night game against the Packers. Let's see if he can carry that into Sunday's match-up against the Giants Defensive Ends and Linebackers.
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nice post
to me shaffer is a big key because if he gets overmatched against tuck/umeniyora then the offense will probably spin the wheels a good deal more. i figure he will get some help too but as they have some good threats all over the line he probably can’t count on getting a ton of help (as you stated).
Yeah with the Giants back against the Wall this can be one those games where
their defense is fired up. Might be a much tougher game than anticipated.
by Dominique Blanton on Sep 30, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Desperate teams are dangerous
Esp with rumors of Coughlin job being in jeopardy this Giants team might fight pretty hard. I think if we can neutralize Jacobs early he will take himself out of the game mentally, but as far as our O-line this should be a good test to see if they have turned a corner or if we are going to have to keep crossing our fingers that cutler gets up after the hit. Let’s stop counting on blocked field goals and late turnovers and put it out of reach by the 3rd quarter.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Sep 30, 2010 9:21 PM CDT reply actions
Jacobs has been pretty worthless, Amhad Bradshaw however.....
he might be the most underrated rusher we have faced. I mean look at it… We had Jahvid Best in his 1st game, then the triple confused “threat” in Dallas, and then another running back getting one of his first starts in Brandon Jackson. The more I look at it this may be the best running back we have faced this season by far. I think we can contain him but he could be the biggest threat to our defense this Sunday.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Damn typos Ahmad.... Ahmad... sorry.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
You think Bradshaw is better than Marion Barber?
by Dominique Blanton on Sep 30, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Im not sold on Bradshaw
He needs at least a one thousand yard season for me to take him seriously and that hasnt happened yet. However with Jacobs disgruntled this may be his break out year. But this type of confusion is great for us as the away team visiting a Giants team in complete disarray. And Barber is better than Bradshaw assuming he is given the ball, However Jacobs is better than both of them when he chooses to play.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Sep 30, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
The past is the past. Bradshaw's being given a chance this year and
he has 253 yds with 2 TD’s and 47 yds recieving while Barber has 125yds and 1 TD with 6 yds receiving. And as you both pointed out they are both in “running back by committee” situations. Jacobs play has been a complete joke for over a year.
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I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Sorry forgot to add
Jacobs 69 yds rushing this year.
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I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
i hope jacobs continues his poor play sunday night
by reefermadness3 on Sep 30, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
He's not even considered their starter...
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I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
you're right
and we’re using him wrongly IMO. 4 carries a game will not be effective for someone who’s whole point is to cause pain to the other team. teams are applauding our coaches decision for using him like this.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
He could be a beast (Jacobs)
except it looks to me like he wants to dane and shake. He’s HUGE, but he’s trying to be elusive instead of punishing.
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I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Damn Dance.
He doesn’t want you Dane…
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You know things are bad...
When Dane’s name gets more butchering in a month than Manumaleuna or Tinoisamoa.
by Steven Schweickert on Oct 1, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
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the problem is
his head isn’t as strong as his frame. he’s very fragile and has mental lapses, because he tries to do to much to make up for the 1 yard runs. i saw last year for the 1st time Big Boy making bad decisions. not hitting the hole when it was there, things like that. now part of that IMO was the fact that the o-line regressed so badly that he got used to no hole being there and bouncing around the edge.
now, like i said, he’s getting minimal carries, and so to me he’s definitely in the mindset of i got to break a big one or else coach will pull me out. and that has happened. one carry, 2 yards, subbed out. not seen for a quarter. just bad bad utilization of your talent if you ask me. the guys a proven back for christ’s sake. let him touch the ball 10+ times, and a few series in a row. get his confidence up, and you may see the man-child one more time.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I actually hope you're right.
When you take on Houston.
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I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Jacobs could present our smaller front 7 with a problem.
The boy is big, and if they dump him screen passes and he makes it into our secondary …
Barber's not been the same back
since he took over the role of starter from Julius Jones. check out his stats, his per carry avg. has declined since the wear and tear of 200+ carries is on his body now.
and btw, he’s never eclipsed 1000 in a season either.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
Absolutely
Marion Barber has been a shadow of his rookie year ever since.
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I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Good preview Nique
FYI, Osi has started every game so far, with Tuck on the other side. Kiwi(Kiwanuka) has seen plenty of snaps however, because our DC has lined him up at every position in the front seven(literally!) so your LT will start off facing Osi, and Kiwi later(and Canty as well on some running downs).
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
running attack
lets not give up on the run in this game. if we can successfully move the football with the running game it could be a long night for the giants. keep manu as a fullback and rotate forte and taylor.
Good Stuff, but I have a question
And I’m not attacking you at all, I’m just wondering what are your credentials exactly? Like when you say a certain player graded out well, do you go back and watch the game again and grade out the lineman or do you use some site as a reference? Either way, it’s great stuff, I was just curious, that’s all.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Oct 1, 2010 12:10 AM CDT reply actions
I was actually wondering the same thing.....
And for me, at least, it definitely has nothing to with attacking. I want to know where you are getting those grades. Could be very useful.
Though I might question some of the rating, as Forte has not been bad at all with picking up the blitzes, and he’s done exceptionally well with chipping blitzers as he head out to a dump off position, at least IMO. But I’d like to see where these grading scales come from and how they go about ascribing their grades.
But that is neither here nor there. I’m always looking for new credible sources. Would you mind providing some links, Nique?
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 1, 2010 6:18 AM CDT up reply actions
No worries it's a fair question to ask.
For the Grades and Reviews posts I go back and watch (I DVR the game) every snap from that position group match-up. That’s how I come up with my grades for that position group.
The Thursdays match-up posts I use the opponets last game (DVR also) to scout the position group the Bears are matched up against. I try not to reference scouting reports that much, but instead rely on what I see from my eyes not someone elses.
by Dominique Blanton on Oct 1, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Dammit.....
Thought I’d get some new links…….
I can never find many sources that grade current OL. Was hoping you had them.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 1, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
NFL.COM - Stats - Offensive line
No individual grades but I found the following interesting and indicative proof that Omiyale is a significant reason we can’t run the ball. The Rush PWR rating.
Rush Pwr = Percentage of rushes on 3rd or 4th down with 2 or fewer yards to go that achieved a first down or TD. Also includes rushes on 1st-and-goal and 2nd-and-goal from the opponent’s 2-yard line or closer.
Filter by PWR.
Rushing right we are rated 24th in the league.
Rushing center we are rated 20th in the league.
Rushing right we are rated 31st in the league.
Ta – daaa ! Omiyale does indeed blow at run-blocking. J’Narcus Webb does not and is a a LT. Give him a job and let’s run the ball up and down the meadowlansd. Well … a bit better than we have been anyway.
Thanks....
I use the NFL official site already, but thanks for the effort. What I was actually looking for, though, was individual linemen stats and grades from a credible source. PFF.com switch to pay to view, which sucks, and I haven’t seen any others that provide individual lineman stats.
This is probably the third or fourth time that I got all excited because I thought someone might have had a link for me, but c’est la vie, right? Was worth a shot anyways. I was holding out hope for this one, though, because Nique is usually pretty spot on in these posts (Much respect to Nique for having a good eye and a good understanding of what it is he’s watching) so I was hoping he was citing a source, rather than personal experience. Grading out the Bears line each week isn’t my problem. I see every Bears game. But I just don’t have the time to watch every game every week to get an accurate picture of what all of our opponents are doing. A link would have made all of that so much easier.
But, again, thank you for the effort.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 2, 2010 4:58 AM CDT up reply actions
BTW,
A prime example of what Forte has been doing blocking is the Big catch by Knox, where Forte caught the blitzing Charles Woodson on the outside edge of JaMarcus Webb. He does a great job of backing Woodson up into Clay Matthews (who Webb was doing a fine job with, as well) and giving Cutler time to let the play develop.
I’m, honestly, a huge Forte critic. But I’ll give credit where credit is due. He’s a fine blocker out of the backfield.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 1, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
He's not horrible nor outstanding at it. He can be inconsistent at times at it.
by Dominique Blanton on Oct 1, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Well have to agree to disagree, I guess.
But, no player is going to make every play. Urlacher gave up both TDs last week, for example. But I’d give the nod to Forte over Taylor as a pass blocker given what I’ve seen.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 2, 2010 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Urlacher rocks.
We are a shadow of a defense without him. He also got us the strip that saved the game for us by the way and has been a monster for us this year.
Exactly my point.
I still believe Urlacher to be the MLB best in the league for a cover 2 defense. He’s still the guy that other teams that run this system look at and say “We need a guy like that”. And even Brian, who is the heart and soul of our defense, can make some mistakes. That, to me, means that you have to give the other plays a break. It’s one thing for a player to screw up constantly. It’s another for a player to occasionally miss an assignment.
Derrelle Revis gets beat. Brian Urlacher gets beat. Champ Bailey gets beat. Jake Long gets beat. Marcus McNeil gets beat. Troy Polamalu gets beat. Every player gets beat sometimes. That’s football. My point is that, of course Forte gets beat once in a while. But he also throws some great blocks. Good enough for him to be ranked fifth in the league in Blocking by RBs by profootballfocus.com in his healthy rookie season. From what I have seen this season, he appears to have returned to form this season.
I beat on Forte quite a bit for being a below average rusher. But I will give credit where it is due. He’s a fantastic receiver and a very good blocker.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 2, 2010 4:45 AM CDT up reply actions
As 'dre said
Osi and Tuck are the starters.
Of course they’re moved around a lot, but Tuck plays the most, afaik
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
Osi is doubtful and Kiwi is out.
Osi has a swelled knee, so even if he starts he won’t be that effective. Kiwi has a bulging disc in his neck and is definitely out. We’ll be fine if we can deal with JPP’s speed. We’ll be fine anyway.
giants game
I agree that is the most important matchup…need to keep the pressure away from Cutler and give him time to throw….with their depth at DL, it could be a long night if we don’t.

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