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... if you could ask Lovie/Jerry/Ted any question at all, what would it be?


A new article on practice team WR Iglesias.

Season ticket holders on hand to listen to Phillips, Angelo, and Lovie.  With pic of what happy Bears fans may look like.

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A look at Mike Tice and rebuilding the Offensive Line.

Featured article: Make it past the title, there's good stuff in there.

Featured article #2: What can and cannot be seen on film.

John "Moon" Mullin offers his latest insights on the team.

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Kevin Seifert looks at the NFC North's roster oddities.

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Lovie might prefer to run for the bus.

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Sep 7, 2010 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Nice!

Rec’d for “tongue in cheek” zing.

Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p

by ChicagoMarine on Sep 7, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are just lovin' your new

found ability to rec. :]

"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton

Editor/Writer for WindyCityGridiron.com

by Ashley Czuba on Sep 8, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is the new Lovie-ism I predicted
Just stay with us, OK, and if you are dissatisfied with something in the past, leave it in the past. Think about the future.

Hope he can make it stick because it sounds so good

by TheMan1 on Sep 7, 2010 8:01 AM CDT reply actions  

A future without Lovie, Angelo, Phillips, and the McCaskeys?

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Sep 7, 2010 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

From Seifert’s list (which he got from Biggs):

Of the 53 players on the Bears’ roster, only 23 of them were drafted by the team over the past seven years. Seven drafts should form the foundation of any team, but for the Bears it represents only 43 percent of the roster.

And Biggs’ assessment on Angelo’s prioritising (or not) of the offensive line:

Ultimately, the Bears are in their current state because general manager Jerry Angelo didn’t infuse the group with young players. From 2003 to 2007, a span of five drafts, the Bears selected one lineman in the first five rounds — Josh Beekman. The fourth-round pick from ’07 was waived Saturday.

Across the league, 141 linemen were drafted in the first five rounds of those five drafts. Of the NFL’s top seven rushing teams last season, six drafted five or more linemen during those rounds and in that period.

Angelo oversees the line as the cross-checker for the position during the draft. He stacks the board at that position and then he goes across the ball and drafts defensive linemen. From ’03 to ’07, the Bears drafted nine defensive linemen in the first five rounds.

Ugh.

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Sep 7, 2010 8:09 AM CDT reply actions  

I was going to post this

but you beat me to it. That’s unacceptable as a GM to have a 57% failure rate in the draft. IMO- he deserves just as much or more blame than the coaching staff.

"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.

by propheteer on Sep 7, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder what the league average is?

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Sep 7, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Biggs also reports how many OL each franchise has drafted between 2003-2007 in the top 5 rounds of the draft. We’re dead last, with one (Beekman, 4th round).

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Sep 7, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lovie Smith

2010 Chicago Bears:

3-5 through first eight games

2-6 through second eight games

Mark it down.

by celerysalt on Sep 7, 2010 8:53 AM CDT reply actions  

I can buy the 3-5 but not the 2-6

After buffo we won’t win a game, the schedule gets absurdly hard after that.

by lopey986 on Sep 7, 2010 9:10 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hey Jerry Angelo

Do you really think you are “smarter” than the draft or are you really just dart boarding it back there?

by TheMan1 on Sep 7, 2010 9:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Coaches will be here for in 2011. (RE: TIce & O-line article)

I thought that their “might” be a chance that Angelo and Co. would be removed after this season, but after reading the Tice article and looking at what Angelo and Bears brass did this offseason from a coaching and administrative perspective…

… This group isn’t going anywhere!

I think that when you look at the Martz signing, you have to consider that when you bring in Martz and his complex offensive sysem, you are going to have to give him at least a year to see if this offense can gel for your new QB and young receivers. Mike Tice has a fresh group of OL that are new and he can mold to his liking. Marinelli received DL that are learning how to get pressure the way that he has taught it in the NFL for years. Tim Ruskell was just brought on as Jerry’s right hand man and you can tell there is a difference in Jerry’s last draft to what Jerry would have done in previous year.

As much as this makes my stomach hurt to say…

… I think we are saddled with this group for— at the least— another season. :-/

Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p

by ChicagoMarine on Sep 7, 2010 9:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Say it ain't so.

Devil Dog, do not speak of such things. It makes my eyes and ears bleed.

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Sep 7, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

With the potential work-stoppage

I think we’d be stuck with them another year no matter what they did in the off-season. There’s no point in firing the entire coaching staff and bringing in someone new to coach scabs, or nobody at all.

by Virto on Sep 7, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

If they're around for at least another season hiring Collins and releasing Lefevour makes even less sense

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Is my mind a'goin on me or am I watchin you jibber jabber like some sorta jibberty box. Jibber Jabber on! Jibber Jabber on! -- Early Cuyler

by SaintCee on Sep 7, 2010 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

The featured article by Jon Greenberg was awesome!!!

IMHO, it pretty much nailed what Bear Nation has been feeling this off/pre season.

by rdent4hof on Sep 7, 2010 9:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Bear Nation

Is a 2010 documentary about gay men who like bigger, burlier, hairier dudes.

If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?

Writer at windycitygridiron.com {-/-} http://www.twitter.com/kdoggers

by Kev H on Sep 7, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

When I had to reinstall Firefox and didn’t have adblock on, I found an ad for GayChubbyDating staring at me. That’s not the kind of Bear I come to WCG for…..

Bear Nation Is a 2010 documentary about gay men who like bigger, burlier, hairier dudes.

So… the Jared Allen fan club?

"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
~~~ Check my profile for links for SB20 and America's Game: '85 Bears ~~~

by Spongie on Sep 7, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jason Hanson Replacing Roy Williams as the Lions resident trash talker?

“Even an average NFL fan can see we’re a better team [than the Bears]” Link

"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."

"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010

by Sam Householder on Sep 7, 2010 10:31 AM CDT reply actions  

“Even your average fan can see that we’re a better team,” Hanson said. “What that means on NFL Sundays we’re going to find out. But I know this, we’re going to be competitive, and we’ll see what happens if we’re going to be actually pretty good. But we’ve got a chance. I’ll feel like we’ve squandered a major opportunity with what we got in here if we haven’t turned the corner.”

How is this trash talking?

"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching

by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 7, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

We saw what he said, but this is what he meant

“we’re better than you, na na na na boo boo”

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 7, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I guess I do not read it as a comment about Chicago, more of how the Lions are much different team now than they have been for the past decade

"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching

by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 7, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I admit it isn't hardcore trash talk

Like Williams’ guaranteed wins years back and stuff but it is still a shot at the Bears.

"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."

"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010

by Sam Householder on Sep 7, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

I didn’t see anything even close to a shot at the Bears. Maybe I missed something somewhere. They will be a better team (than they were last year).

by Digs D-League on Sep 7, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno.

I think he was just saying that the Lions won’t suck as bad this year as they have in recent years past.

Trash talk? Nah. Wishful thinking? FOR SURE.

by oripunk3485 on Sep 7, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

....stick your head in doo-doo.

Tosh.0? Awesome line that he uses from time to time on his show.

"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.

by propheteer on Sep 7, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

good stuff

In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 7, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great show!

“Average Homeboy” might be the funniest thing I’ve ever seen in my life!

by rdent4hof on Sep 8, 2010 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe not so much trash talking as enlightenment:
“Before you can win, you have to believe you are worthy.”

Care to guess who said this?

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Sep 7, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ditka?

"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."

"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010

by Sam Householder on Sep 7, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are correct, sir!

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Sep 8, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jarron Gilbert

What really “chaps my arse” about this cut…

… You drafted him 3rd round a couple years ago, then you [Angelo] cut him and say that he didn’t “fit your system” and that he is more of a 3-4 nose.

Well, riddle me this JA…

… When did you start working personnel for the C2 system? Yesterday??

You have been doing this since your days in Tampa. How did you— a “scouting guy”— miss out on the fact that this guy would not fit your system?

Yet…

… Garrett Wolfe who OBVIOUSLY doesn’t fit (a blind man could see that)— does.

smh.

Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p

by ChicagoMarine on Sep 7, 2010 12:16 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

He thought he could turn water into wine

"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.

by propheteer on Sep 7, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

And then there are the things that truly matter:

Izzy.

“Education is the great equalizer.”.

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Sep 7, 2010 3:55 PM CDT reply actions  

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