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CLEVELAND - SEPTEMBER 2:  Todd Collins #10 of the Chicago Bears makes a pass against the Cleveland Browns during the preseason game on September 2 2010 at Cleveland Browns Stadium in Cleveland Ohio. (Photo by Justin K. Aller/Getty Images)

I don't know about you guys, but I am so glad the preseason is finally over. This doesn't change my stance on the whole proposed 2 game preseason/18 game regular season. I'm on the side that you need 4 preseason games to evaluate players and hopefully find a player or players that stand out. Last year for the Bears that guy was Johnny Knox, who was on the verge of being waived until he shined in the final two preseason games. Knox went on to have a pretty good rookie year, playing an integral part in the Bears passing offense while earning a trip to the Pro Bowl as a Kick Returner. Although there really wasn't that type of player for the Bears this preseason, the 3rd and 4th preseason games answered some questions for this Bears team.

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QB Todd Collins and Dan Lefevour: Grade B-

Lefevour's poor play pretty much brought this grade down to a B-, and that is maybe part of the reason why he isn't here. Before I get into that whole mess, I will get into Collins' play last week. Collins played pretty well, and looked very comfortable orchestrating the offense, granted it was against the Browns 2nd and 3rd stringers. His best play was probably the 39 yard pass play to Juaquin Iglesias, where he stayed poised in the pocket, scanned the field and fired a pass to a wide open Iglesias. I think the play of Collins last Thursday was a blessing, because it now gives you a back-up who understands what Martz wants to do (years under Coryell disciples Al Saunders and Joe Gibbs help) and also doesn't put too much pressure on Caleb Hanie where can just focus on development. As far as Dan Lefevour is concerned, I am not an ounce mad that he didn't make it through waivers. He was clearly a 2 to 3 year project and right now he's not better than the other developmental project you have in Hanie. I really don't get mad at 6th round picks for not turning out well, but with the biggest question mark coming into the season being your Offensive Line, you have to raise your eyebrow or make a stink face at the Bears for passing up on Notre Dame and now Broncos reserve Center Eric Olsen for a project at O Line.

FB Eddie Williams: Grade INC

Hard to evaluate a player when he doesn't see the field that much, but the good news for Williams is that they've seen enough to put him on the practice squad.

OL Johan Asiata, James Marten, J'Marcus Webb: Grade C

Johan Asiata had a pretty good game, Marten had an okay game and that's part of the reason why Asiata made the 53 over Marten. The other part is upside, and Johan, when looking back at all the 4 preseason games, has that. The Bears figure that a year under Mike Tice will do Asiata good because one of the minor problems Asiata has in his game that needs work is his technique. It looks like I was right on J'Marcus Webb making the 53 man roster as his measurables were just too good to place on waivers. He had a good game in my opinion especially during the 2 minute drill as he held his own against the outside pass rush. Like Asiata, a year or two under Tice will do him good as Tice can work on his fundamentals and strengthen up his technique. If he buys into Tice, he can be a really good tackle in this league. As far as Beekman being released, I just wasn't that surprised - he has had a very bad preseason and that's unacceptable - especially for someone who was entering his 4th season in the league. Looks like Tice got through to Angelo by letting him realize that Beekman is not the heir apparent at center once Olin Kreutz is done.

WR Juaquan Iglesias and Greg Matthews: Grade C

Outside of the 39 yard catch from Collins, not that much noise was made by Iglesias or Matthews as once again they both were outplayed by Rashied Davis. I was maybe asking a little too much from Iglesias in my original match-up post since it was almost impossible for Iglesias to have a big game with Lefevour throwing to him. Matthews was quiet all preseason, but the coaches like his skills enough to let him develop on the practice squad. Iglesias has made much improvement from last summer to this summer, and the Bears are hoping that a year on the practice squad helps him take another step in his development.

DE Jarron Gilbert and Barry Turner: Grade B

Gilbert had an okay game, but he got outplayed by Barry Turner who was all over the field last Thursday. The release of Gilbert definitely is a fail on Angelo's part, but it looks like he has made up for it by picking up Turner and keeping him on the practice squad. I wouldn't be surprised if he is called up at some point during the season if an injury were to happen to one of the DE's.

DT Marcus Harrison and Henry Melton: Grade C

Harrison has played hard all preseason, but that hasn't stopped him from being outshined by both Toenia and Melton. Melton has shown the hustle and tenacity this preseason that makes the coaches believe he will be an effective pass rusher in the nickel packages.

CB Cory Graham and Joshua Moore: Grade B

Considering that the Browns 2nd and 3rd string receivers didn't do anything significant in the game, I would have to give Moore and Graham a high grade. Joshua Moore has been a surprise this summer especially in man to man coverages. There were rumors that the Bears might try to sneak him on the PS, but considering that he was no secret in the draft I doubt if he would have lasted very long there during the season. Moore will need this year to build up his strength and get stronger, so Graham will most likely be ahead of him on the depth chart.

Safety Al Afalava and Quentin Scott: Grade D

Both guys needed to stand out and both failed to deliver, though you can't blame them when they are playing a deep zone and the Cleveland QBs didn't attack downfield. I was a bit surprised that the coaches didn't put Scott on the 8 man practice squad considering his size and skills that he put on display when he played centerfield FS at Northern Iowa.

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Turner and Melton .....

….. showed they were gamers and out performed the sluggish Gilbert to earn a roster spot . Lava looked like he didn’t even wanna play anymore and Scott was Mr. Irrelevant when on the field . Great break down Nique !

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Sep 7, 2010 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

No Love for Woodny?

Woodny Turenne had a good game against the Browns, making one mistake but making up for it with strong aggressive CB play. Was he playing with a cracked rib or did he crack it during the game? He played tougher than the other CB’s, and I don’t understand why the Bears did not keep him on IR.

Scott never got a fair shake, though he seemed to show potential. Too bad they did not take a chance on him. He did not fit he normal “safety” mold, but he may have been the player to help bring back the days of Plank.

How a rookie like Gilbert shows such a lack of desire is mind boggling – it’s the bigtime, show up or leave. Melton seems to be out of position at DT, and I would like to see him take some minutes from MAnderson. Turner shows promise.

Iglesias has to be embarrassed to get beat by Rashied “Rockhands” Davis. Lubbie loves his vets, so maybe Mickey Martz got talked out of cutting Davis. Matthews is a stiff and should not even be on the PS.

Lefevour is gone because Hanie had an injury bad enough for the team to get help, but not so bad as to shelve him for the season. MM must have been cackling when Collins put on a Bears jersey. It’s a shame Lefevour could not have stuck with the team, though he seemed to have similar talent as Hanie but not quite the same arm strength.

What's a century to a tortoise?

by SpudV on Sep 7, 2010 10:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Turenne....

Is probably 100% healthy, and is our 9th “practice squad player” on IR this season. Just ask Melton about his redshirt.

by Brendan Hess on Sep 8, 2010 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love Barry Turner!

If he ever becomes a regular, I’m definitely getting his jersey.

Why only a C for the DTs? Like you said, Melton and Toenia played well.

The Bear depth at CB and along the O-line is much better than last season. Hopefully that translates to at least two more wins.

"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.

by propheteer on Sep 7, 2010 10:38 PM CDT reply actions  

I guess I didn't watch him closely

Maybe it’s an indictment that I didn’t notice his play.

"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.

by propheteer on Sep 8, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1...

I have been really impressed by Turner. Also, Melton and Toeaina look like they too actually want to play. Imagine if anyone could motivate Harris to give a crap!

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Sep 8, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he's pacing himself like...John Winger

"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.

by propheteer on Sep 8, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

What kind of training?....

“Army training sir!”

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!

by LostInSTL on Sep 8, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a fact Jack!

It was my first rated R movie that I saw….

God, I wish I was a loofha.

"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.

by propheteer on Sep 8, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Woodny Turenne

Was mistakenly reported to be cut but acually is on the IR.

by gageguy on Sep 8, 2010 12:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Great post +1

I wasn’t impressed with Webb………He just looked off balance on almost every play.His footwork was just really bad…….Asiata looked pretty good,not really a big shock they kept him…..I said it before and I will say it again. Josh Moore and Zach Bowman will be are long term starting Corners……..

Is it me,or do the Packers really suck???

by I love football! on Sep 8, 2010 1:50 AM CDT reply actions  

I said it before and I will say it again. Josh Moore and Zach Bowman will be are long term starting Corners

Bowman I can see. I’m not feelin’ Josh Moore as a long term starting corner. But you definitely have “I called it” rights.

If I were naming a current Bear as the other future corner (beside Bowman), I’d say Graham. He’s got a good combination of size and speed to fit the current scheme.

by rdent4hof on Sep 8, 2010 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol Yay I have rights! =p

When I watch Moore I just see a guy who can cover…..When he builds his frame and tackles like theirs no tomorrow …………..Watch out! Ppl say hes too small but theres a guy with the Titans who can disagree……I’m not saying Moore will be as good, but still I think he will be a starter in 2 years.

Is it me,or do the Packers really suck???

by I love football! on Sep 8, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

preseason is

a waste of time. players don’t make the team or cut from it, don’t kid yourself.

by jimribs on Sep 8, 2010 6:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Umm...

Gilbert didn’t make the team because of his performance in the pre season and Asiata did make the team because of the pre season. That is two examples…

If you were joking, I apologize for my compromised humor.

by rdent4hof on Sep 8, 2010 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tell that to the 12 rookies that made a supposedly loaded Dallas squad.

Of course some are likely on the PS, but what does that tell you about the talent evaluators with Dallas as opposed to those with the Bears? How many rookies did we keep?

by BigGeorgeTX on Sep 8, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

How’s that line of thought go exactly?

by oripunk3485 on Sep 8, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beeker, we hardly knew ye...

You know, I always thought a thought of Beekman, and still think he can be a good C in the league, but this post is absolutely correct.

You can’t have large clumps of terrible in the pre-season when you’re a 4th year guy, and expect to stick.

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by Jacob Hayes on Sep 8, 2010 12:40 PM CDT reply actions  

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