How Many Games Will the Bears Win?
On the eve of the NFL season opener, everybody has a prediction, everyone is an expert. We are no different. How many wins do you think the Bears get in the regular season in 2010?
The "brain-trust" at ESPN picks the Bears to finish 3rd in the division behind Minnesota & Green Bay. Adam Schefter thinks they'll be 4th behind Detroit. LINK
Damon Hack of SI.com predicts 8-8 and a 3rd place finish for the Bears. LINK
Don Banks of SI.com predicts a 5-11 season and a last place finish for the Bears. He had this to say:
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Man this season is gonna be awful. Hopefully it’s at least interesting though.
I see us at 8-8
We can win a lot of games to begin the season and I think entering December we could potentially be 8-4 but December is just absolutely brutal and I could see us finishing the season with 4 straight losses.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Sep 8, 2010 10:24 AM CDT reply actions
I concur.
And really, 8-8 +/- 1 isn’t all that bad. I’d say its pretty much on par with the talent + coaching + schedule.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Sep 8, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
This is a mediocre team from top to bottom.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Sep 8, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I respectfully disagree
The best we can start is 4-4. We finish 2-6 though. That includes 2 wins against the Lions too. I think we’ll split with them.
DET – W
DAL – L
GB – L
NYG – L
CAR – W
SEA – W
WAS – L
BUF – W
MIN – L
MIA – W
PHI – L
DET – W
NE – L
MIN – L
NYJ – L
GB – L
If we get an upset win, it will be offset by an upset loss. Sorry everyone, not too optimistic about this team. I think we learned this last year. The problem is Lovie, and Peppers can’t do anything about that.
Realistically though
We’re going to split with GB. We’ll take week 17 in a snoozefest as they’ll have Home Field locked up.
The ones I think might go either way are Minnesota (too many question to not split with them, that and we’ve been competitive with them regardless during the Childress Era), NYG (did you see them last year? The defense was pathetic! Maybe a shootout), and Washington (maybe… this is the least likely on the list).
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Sep 8, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Washington is definitely rebuilding
So it’s hard for me to see them as being so much better than us that we couldn’t preliminarily chalk up a Bears win. And I usually go on the optimistic side of us splitting with all divisional rivals except the Lions. And even if we went 3-3 (Say beat Lions twice and stole a home game from the Vikings or Pack) in the NFC North I’d be OK with that.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Sep 8, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree with the split
with Green Bay. All of the years I have watched the Bears and Green Bay play it never seems to matter if one or the other has a big edge in record or talent, they always play each other tough because of the rivalry.
I also believe that this Bears team will improve over the course of the season (barring major injuries to key players) and will compete well with the better teams that they face late on the schedule. 9-7 or 10-6 is my guess.
Sharks have a Week dedicated to Chuck Norris
We should be able to beat both Philly and Washington at home.
I’m not sold on Kevin Kolb and their defense, and Washington offense doesn’t scare me not one bit.
by Dominique Blanton on Sep 8, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
We almost beat Philly last year and now they're without McNabb.
I say we go 10-6 or 11-5.
DET – W→Lions might be good in the future, but right now….they still are the Lions.
DAL – L
GB – L
NYG – W
CAR – W
SEA – W
WAS – W
BUF – W
MIN – L
MIA – W
PHI – W
DET – W
NE – L
MIN – W
NYJ – L
GB – W
I truly believe that we can sweep the Packers or the Vikings too. That Giants through Buffalo stretch of game shouldn’t be very difficult. We could even pull of a win against the Jets.
games* and pull off*
Dammit…typing too fast.
I see 9-7
New editions of Peppers, Taylor, Bran-Man, and better coaches we should see a two game improvement.
by Dominique Blanton on Sep 8, 2010 10:44 AM CDT reply actions
When did they get better coaches?
by lopey986 on Sep 8, 2010 11:51 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
As of today...
I keep coming to the number 5-11 for this season. The Bears just play too many quality passing teams for this horrific defense to handle. If the Bears offensive line can learn how to run or pass block, the wins might move up to 6 or 7, but I just do not see what the Bears do well as a team. Hopefully the crap about not showing their “real” plays is not a stupid cover story and the Bears will eke out 8 or 9 wins. I still do not see this as a playoff team, yet.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
That sounds about right
Given the schedule – always tough with GB and Minnesota twice (plus I think the Lions will be better than a lot of people are predicting), I think we’ll be lucky to win 8 games. My biggest concern is our O-line. C. Williams had a scary pre-season, and he was supposed to be one of our “anchors” up front.
I was of that opinion...
I really thought C Williams was going to be the best of an average o-line. The scarier part is, he may actually be!
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
STOP IT
The Bears are a playoff team you heard it hear first. People always talk isht about Bears fans being fair weather, but reading these crap azz posts I see why.
There is a difference
between being a fair weather fan and a blind optimist. I have been following the Bears for almost fifty years. I want them to win every game. I am not a fair-weather fan. But, as a realist I think 4-12 is the best we can hope for this year with no O line and no D secondary.
To be fair...
you are writing off both without actually having seen them play a down that matters yet. I agree that it takes some serious Kool-aid to believe that we are a playoff team, but I think it takes some serious purple drank to believe we are a 4 win team after adding Peppers, Harris, Taylor and Wright to a 7 win team. I’m not sure how Peppers, Wright, Harris and Taylor (and Manumaleuna, for that matter) = -3.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 8, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Peppers was obviously our biggest upgrade
I think the other FAs were marginal improvements.
But don’t forget GB, Minny and Detroit will also be improved. Having no high draft picks also screwed us – again. Our O-line will be what kills us/Cutler this year. Given the tough schedule, I think we win 6-8 games, max.
Thats Good
50 years that is, but they haven’t played a down that counts yet and everyone says they stink. Where are you getting this from? A few meaningless preseason fames? Wow I don’t know your definition of bandwagon? But it sure sounds like it to me. Let them play some meaningful games b4 u doom them to 3 win 13 loss record. That’s all I ask?
by Dozjah on Sep 8, 2010 12:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Before you cal for a 12-4 season...
Let them play some meaningful games b4…
you anoint them NFC North champs….uh oh, too late…
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO FIRE LOVIE!
huh?
Bandwagon means abandoning the team unless they’re doing well. He didn’t say he was going to stop following them.
Anyway b4 u g0 anointing th3m division champs when they haven’t played a m3aningful d0wn – realize that beyond peppers they haven’t changed either line, and the secondary is awful. If you think Peppers is enough to make this team a contender, then I’m not sure why I’m responding.
Heres why you responded.....
They added more than just Peppers. But the Bears will prove how good they are with their play.
by Dozjah on Sep 8, 2010 1:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
9-7?
We got Major Wright, and Peppers…and a year with the Oline…we should get at LEAST one win better than last year…seriously Orton’s Bears were better? ugh
He's a 300-pound man who moves like a defensive back. That's what you're dealing with." — Bears coach Lovie Smith on DE Julius Peppers
by BearNecessities on Sep 8, 2010 10:57 AM CDT reply actions
ummm.....
Buddy, I hate to bring this up, but 9-7 would be 2 wins better than last year. Just saying………..
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 8, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
yes
I was meaning i’d like 9-7, but at LEAST one win better… i should have clarified
He's a 300-pound man who moves like a defensive back. That's what you're dealing with." — Bears coach Lovie Smith on DE Julius Peppers
by BearNecessities on Sep 8, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Well I voted 9-7
And I know I picked them as 10-6 and wildcard. but i think a 9-7 wildcard isn’t unheard of this year. I don’t see Minny blazing a trail like they did last year, and the pack always find ways to lose close games so i give them maybe the division at 10 or 11 wins or Minny at 10-11 wins either way. Yeah i will be surprised though if we get more than 9 wins, actually looking at the schedule, man it looks brutal.
Also, i am trying to get tickets for the Bears/Redskins 24 October, where is a good area to sit at the stadium just for my information.
by Chitownproduct on Sep 8, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Vikings = 6-10 this year
and I need no reason, other than they are the Vikings
He's a 300-pound man who moves like a defensive back. That's what you're dealing with." — Bears coach Lovie Smith on DE Julius Peppers
by BearNecessities on Sep 9, 2010 6:01 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Wreck for you, you magnificent bastard.
David Taylor's personal hype man. Check out his website unless you're a loser. http://www.cheekymonkeyart.com/
I think fvarays (where exactly does that damn V go again?)
parchment ankle is going to go out early this season and the queens will be looking up at Green Bay and the Bears.
Sharks have a Week dedicated to Chuck Norris
10-6
We split Minnesota and green bay he’ll we beat Minnesota last year!
We can beat the giants and skins and Dallas has holes in the secondary
In the last 4 games we WILL go 2-2
We will be in the 9-11 win neighborhood
Bear down!
by Bear Lovin 21 on Sep 8, 2010 10:58 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
And that still won't get us to the playoffs on my charts.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Sep 8, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree...
I think it’s going to take at least 11 wins to make the playoffs this year, but then…..you never know. This is a wild league.
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1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 8, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
5-11
Whole team didn’t improve, only certain pieces improved but not going to win a game for us, schedule got harder…ready for a fun season but more optimistic for a new coach and being able to keep our 1st round draft pick next year
Maybe you haven't been paying attention
The Bears are planning on rolling out a bunch of different stuff on offense and defense. Nothing like the vanilla game-plans we saw in preseason. Hip hip horray.
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 8, 2010 11:03 AM CDT reply actions
What scares me,is we didn't do that well with the vanilla stuff......
Is it me,or do the Packers really suck???
by I love football! on Sep 8, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
clearly we did that on purpose
strategery
He's a 300-pound man who moves like a defensive back. That's what you're dealing with." — Bears coach Lovie Smith on DE Julius Peppers
by BearNecessities on Sep 8, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
ahhhh makes sense I guess............If we fool are selves then we can fool the other team too.....
Is it me,or do the Packers really suck???
by I love football! on Sep 8, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
i've been drinking heavily...
…drinking makes me an optimist.
I said 10 wins.
Barring injury to key personnel.
Yeah, we have known Lovie is the problem here for a while now, but sometimes teams will in spite of the head coach.
"Stay thirsty, my friend."
I don't buy into the whole schedule is too difficult thing
Everything seems to even out throughout the year, and certain teams are better and/or worse. The Bears always seem to play up or down to their competition. Am I hopeless romantic to believe they have a chance for 10 wins? Probably. I’m reserving predictions and analysis until after this Sunday.
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
I agree.
The Bears also seem to have alternating good luck / bad luck. Nobody expected them to beat the Colts 2 years ago, but we stomped them in their brand new shiny dome, and nobody gave the Bears a W for the Steelers game last year, but we managed.
At the same time though, we weren’t supposed to lose to the Falcons, but we managed it.
If we suck it up against Detroit, I’ll worry, and rightfully so, but our guys do play hard, and they have a chance against anyone.
I’m split 8 and 8 for the sake of my sanity, but every year for decades I’ve started every season thinking that we might make the playoffs. This one will be no different.
Also, Dallas is being question.....
NY Giants looked bad at the end of last season. Washington is in rebuilding mode. Philly is Philly, but now with 100% less McNabb. The Jets seasons might hang on the arm of Mark Sanchez, and I don’t like those odds. Seattle sucks. Carolina is rebuilding. The Lions are up and coming, but 4 wins would be up for them (I think they get 5). I’m thinking this schedule might be lighter then some think……
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 8, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Exactly.
Maybe the Bears pull off some miracles (in the eyes of the critics). Of course, they’ll do nothing but talk about how all the other teams have major issues, it certainly can’t be the Bears having any talent or ability…
Honestly, if we can get past Dallas with a win, the games that scare me most (outside of the division, GB = scary) are the fins and the skins. I think The Jet’s might be worn out by the time we get to them, and the Pats are on the decline. If the skins have a healthy McNabb, we will have a rough game.
Still
It has looked like McNabb has been on the decline the past few years. He used to strike fear in people during the Eagles like 6 straight conference championship runs or whatever but the last few years he has not been the old school D-Nice. I also believe they are scarce at best at wideout minus Santana Moss. I just don’t see them beating us this year..hopefully not because that’s the game i’m going to lol.
by Chitownproduct on Sep 8, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Minny is a bit down as well imo
The schedule gets tougher at the end, but hopefully the offense progresses enough to pick up some slack and gives the team a chance to win those games.
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
Rec'd for making sense.
There’s isn’t a team on this schedule the Bears can’t beat. 10 wins or better.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
I agree
there is no team the Bears can’t beat, but there is also no team that can’t beat their Bears on the schedule…..7-9.
by HasClothesLikeaDickhead on Sep 8, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
You are absolutely right.
Any given Sunday…
I think Train made a good point about some of this year’s opponents and my reply was in the context of his comment that the schedule might be lighter than some think.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Agreed....everyone is so down on them
I’m thinking 10 or 11 wins for sure. They could have easily beat Philly last year, they beat Minny once, they barely lost to GB in both games, Washington is iffy, the Lions still aren’t close to .500, The Giants are average at best, Seattle and Carolina are easily beatable, and Buffalo sucks.
Well said Mr. Train
Dallas has probably the most talent in the league…but cant put it together
Greenbay/Minnesota- we split this year we win both at home
Detriot-sweep but they will be close games and lions could steal one
Giants- you never know what your going to get with this team
Philly- We had them beat last year but cutler could not hit anything
Redskins- they will be improved but we will beat them at home
Patriots- not what they use to be
Jets- i think they jets only go 9-7 they have the names but that i dont see them being all that
Dolphins- VERY tough team to play, they can run it and they have marshall yikes
Carolina- close but winnable game, matt moore doesnt scare, stewart, williams and smith do
Bills and seahawks- these are two we need to win by 14 or more points
i can definitely see 10 maybe 11 wins we surprised minnesota last year and if Cutler gets protection the offense should be able to put up the points
by Bear Lovin 21 on Sep 8, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
we have made it our job to ensure mediocre QBs look like HoF’ers when we play them, so that makes me uncomfortable.
we did however have Philly beat last year, and I think the Pats are very beatable with a suspect Secondary.
He's a 300-pound man who moves like a defensive back. That's what you're dealing with." — Bears coach Lovie Smith on DE Julius Peppers
by BearNecessities on Sep 9, 2010 6:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Typically under this regime
When expectations are high, they lay an egg (last season and ‘07). When they’re low, they surprise some people (’05 and ’06).
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
Expectations weren't low in 2006...
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
No, but they weren't sky high like last year.
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
I don't know about you or other people
But my expectations for 2006 were way higher than 2009. I was excited about the Bears last year, but it was never off the charts. Unless you mean how SI predicted us to play in the Superbowl vs New England.
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
Not Feeling Good...
I wish I could say with a serious face that we could win more than ten games…but from what we’ve seen so far…it looks like 5 wins is more likely. They have a tough schedule against the NFC East, the AFC East and whats once again one of the toughest divisions in football with the NFC North. If they don’t win in Week 1, it could set off a bad chain of events. The press will kill them, the fans will hate them, and everyone from Phillips on down will freak out, rightly so. This team has massive potential and if they find a way to click, they could be a beast…but right now…well, when was the last time you were nervous about Detroit coming to town? And after that, Big D, the Cheesebrains, and the G-Men…oy vey…
by Fast Willie Gault on Sep 8, 2010 11:40 AM CDT reply actions
10-6
I know I may completely hammered on Bears Kool-aid…but I just have a feeling that we are going to put up some major points this year…and the defense will hold teams down just enough that we get a few 31-28 wins…
I actually think we are going to win the first two games and have a lot of mommentum going into the GB game…
Ditka said “Let there be football” and there was football…and it was good!
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
Damn, that Kool-Aid taste good....
I’m going with 10-6. I just can’t see how the line could be worse than last year on either side of the ball. Peppers has to improve the line. I just can’t see how he couldn’t. T Harris looks motivated for the first time in years and C Harris is home. Major wright give us the first real FS the Bears have had since Mike Brown before the Achilles injury. And Brian and Pisa are back. The only way this defense could be worse than last year is if Rod is even worse as a DC than Lovie was at being a DC/HC last season, and I just cannot see how that is possible.
Offensively, Martz>"The Douche". I can’t see how it could get worse than Turner. Forte actually has an OC with some creativity. Cutler, too. The WRs have a year under their belt with JC and the O-line can’t look worse run blocking than last year, can they?
I think we split with Minn and GB, and take 2 from Detroit (I know everyone thinks we’ll get upset, but I think we win both in shoot-outs) then i think we beat Carolina, Seattle, Washington, Buffalo, Philly and I think we steal one from the Jets. I don’t like Sanchez, and I pick him as “Disappointment of the Year” The only ay I see the Jets beating us is if the Jets defense scores, cause I think it’ll come down to a low scoring affair.
That’s my Kool-Aid delusion for the day……
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 8, 2010 12:01 PM CDT reply actions
Of course....
I could be completely wrong, but this Kool-Aid really tastes good……
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1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 8, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I said 10
I’m going with 10, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see more, here’s how I see it
DET – W, we’re better than Det
DAL- W, I think Dal is way over rated, and they didn’t look that great to me in the preseason, I think we can squeeze a victory out here in OT 24-21
GB- L, GB is a good team, I think we lose this one
NYG- W, the Giants are way over rated, their defense was a joke last year, and not much improved over the off season, I think we take this one 24-10
CAR- W, this team is an enigma to me, they obviously lost a huge part of their defense in JP, and I think he’s gonna have a field day against his former team, and their offense, okay the have some good RB, and 1WR, I think we take this one easily with a 28-7 victory
SEA- W, do I need to explain why.
WAS- L, I feel by this time in the season McNabb will be totally clicking with his offense, and will beat us. But I’m on the fence with this one, and we could win it.
BUF- W, it’s Buffalo, enough said
MINN-W, I think we split with Minn, and giving us home field advantage here
MIA-L, Miami, will confuse this defense with the wildcat, and Lovie won’t make any adjustments.
PHI- W, I’m not sold on Kolb, I think Philly will regret letting McNabb go.
DET- L, I think we lose to Det on the road, this is a team with some weapons, and at this time in the season they will be better, than they were in week 1.
NE- L, New England is a better team than us, and Tom Brady is one of the best in the league, we lose this home game
MINN- L, like I said, I think we split with them this one goes to the queens
NYJ- W, this is one of the most over rated, and over hyped team in the league, they were great at running the ball last year, and let TJ go, and bring in LT, there’s a drop off there, this is a team full of head cases, and it’s all about me egos, all over the place, they were 9-7 last year, and that’s because some teams dogged it at the end of the season, to let them into the playoffs. Sanchez is not a leader, and that’s gonna hurt this team.
GB- W, I think we take this one on the road, GB will be in the playoffs already, and will rest most of their starters.
What were they thinking?
by touchdown bears on Sep 8, 2010 12:09 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
For every win you gave us
You just said they are overrated or that they just suck. If you predict 10 win, at least give a real explanation rather the just saying we are better or they are overrated.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Well, the Jets _are_ massively overrated
And a mediocre team should beat the teams that suck.
DET – W
DAL – L
GB – L
NYG – L
CAR – W
SEA – W
WAS – L
TOR – W
MIN – W
MIA – L
PHI – W
DET – L
NE – L
MIN – L
NYJ – W
GB – W
That’s 8 – 8 if I am doing my math right.
Is Ralph Friedgen fired yet?
Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?
Our CBs are terrible
They’re certainly not particularly imposing but I think they’ll upend us, sadly.
Is Ralph Friedgen fired yet?
Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?
Prediction
Det W
Dal L
GB W
Nyg W
Car W
Sea W
Wsh W
Buf W
Min W
Mia W
Phi W
Det W
NE W
Min L
Nyj L
GB L
This equals 12 Wins 4 losses book it you heard it hear first.
by Dozjah on Sep 8, 2010 12:24 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
An 11 game winning streak?
I like it, I like it a lot!
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
This would be poetic..
Bears start 0-5. We’re all pissed. Then they finish 9-2 and just miss the playoffs, losing only to NE and MN. Everyone keeps their jobs. Then we’re even more pissed. It’s possible.
by DisCUBbobulated on Sep 8, 2010 12:42 PM CDT reply actions
Damn lets......
Hope not, But the Bears beat Detroit and Green Bay here in sweet home Chicago.
by Dozjah on Sep 8, 2010 12:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Everyone keeps their jobs. Then we’re even more pissed. It’s possible.
>_<
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THE ONLY THING I KNOW FOR SURE...
Is that we split with Detroit.
2 things actually:
We aren’t as good as many here are hoping.
Looking forward to Lovie leaving.
Lovie isn't going anywhere
If there’s a work stoppage next season, don’t think they’re going to replace everyone just to pay someone else to coach scabs.
if the players and owners
don’t reach an agreement, there won’t be any scabs to coach. there won’t be a season. lovie is gone.
hey, celerysalt!
I hope you don’t mind: I appropriated one of your comments a few weeks ago to use in my signature for a while.
It sums things up so nicely. :)
"What I’m trying to say is that Lovie is an idiot. Let’s not forget this." --celerysalt, WCG commenter
I've probably paid more attention to camp and preseason this year than ever
And I gotta say, these Bears have me totally snowed. I wouldn’t be surprised by any record in between 11-5 and 3-13. We are not elite. We are not bottom dwellers. Although we’re a lot closer to the latter than the former — as in, one or two major injuries on defense closer.
Also, I went to Cal. It’s pretty lame that Aaron Rodgers (and Jahvid Best, for that matter) wound up in the NFC North. He is the real deal, and I still remember sitting in Henry’s on Durant in Berkeley when the Niners passed on him, and slowly coming to the cold realization that he would most likely wind up on the hated Packers. Get ready for another decade of jealousy watching as Green Bay’s franchise QB dismantles our beloved Bears time and time again. Sigh.
Lisa needs braces ... DENTAL PLAN
by gafferland on Sep 8, 2010 1:05 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Our defense is a shadow of the team from the mid 2000's
Peppers will add some spark, but our secondary isn’t what it used to be, and the rest of our line didn’t look solid. I expect Cutler to improve, but with a porous line, his interceptions still will top 20, but he’ll improve in touchdowns and yards. I am worried about the running game, but not overly so. 8-8 is where I see us falling.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
I need someone to help me understand something...
How does a team that added better players at 3 positions, have 2 healthy linebackers back and went 7-9 all of a sudden get worse??
If we have people here who can say that a team with 2 wins in 2 years will beat us this weekend because they’ve improved with rookies, then how do the Bears only end up with 4or 5 wins after improving with proven players? I’m confused with that logic. I think people are taking their hatred for Lovie and this staff along with the disappointment of most of them still being here, and are embellishing things just a bit. This wave of negativity is getting to a fevered pitch and you would swear that the Bears won 3 games last year. I got the Bears at 10-6 this year and here is my list:
Det W
Dal W
GB L
Nyg W
Car W
Sea W
Wsh W
Buf W
Min L
Mia L
Phi W
Det L
NE L
Min W
Nyj W
GB L
Yeah but it worked!
by Dils on Sep 8, 2010 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Because young players approach their primes
Because the Bears schemes have been figured out
Because old players start sucking after their primes
Because young players are unproven
Because older RBs with less mileage can still be still effective
Because DE in their prime are just that, in their prime and can still be effective.
Yeah but it worked!
Elite DEs age like fine wine
Peppers is like a Silver Oaks cabernet- rich, full-bodied, and bursting with beastly flavors!
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
I'm not following you.
Because young players approach their primes
Rookies have proven nothing. Forte, Knox, Olsen, Aromashadu, Bennett , Bowman are all very good players under the age of 26. This should be a good thing, right?
Because the Bears schemes have been figured out
Agreed. There is infinite footage available of the Bears/Martz offense. Uh, no there isn’t. If you are referring to defensive schemes there’s nothing wrong with it if you have the personnel.
Because old players start sucking after their primes
What “old players” would you be referring to?
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Old players?
Urlacher, Harris (either one), Kreutz, Garza.
The list goes on
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
With the exception of Garza,
and it would be a stretch to say “he is starting to suck” because I don’t know that he has ever been anything beyond serviceable, everyone you mention has been injured.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Injuries pile up
and at some point “injured and aging” becomes “hurt and old”.
I think we’re getting to that point with A LOT of core guys.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
That is probably true.
Yet Urlacher, T. Harris and Kreutz have all made statements during the off-season expressing feelings of rejuvenation.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
I didn't say we were at that point yet.
But everyone feels good in August.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
That may be.
and at some point "injured and aging" becomes "hurt and old". I think we’re getting to that point with A LOT of core guys.
You’re just saying that we’re getting to that point.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Ok. Now that we've established that,
I refer to Dils original post and subsequent comments.
Since our “old” players aren’t quite sucking yet, the influx of FA should make this a better team, yet as Dils suggests, the “wave of negativity is getting to a fevered pitch”.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Old vs Old Fart
Manning (Goober), Jason Taylor, Fav**, Ray Lewis, Randy Moss….all players whose careers are aged like a fine cheese….still productive. Kreutz is still in the top 5-10 of Centers and I’m pretty sure Urlacher and The Harris’ still have a wee bit left in the tank.
There is no "Off Position" for the Genius Switch - David Letterman
Lovie Smith and the cover 2. Nuff said
"He is remarkably bright", a "terrific talent", the sky is the limit for Cutler"
-Mike Martz-
To Answer the Question
How does a team that added better players at 3 positions, have 2 healthy linebackers back and went 7-9 all of a sudden get worse??
Last year we thought getting Cutler and Pace would be good for a couple more wins coming off a 9-7 campaign and we got worse so I see how it is possible to add 3 guys and be healthy and still get worse.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Sep 8, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Especially
With a harder schedule.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Sep 8, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Disagree with the harder schedule....
SOS is based on last year. If those rankings at all matter, then this is how our season should look…….
Det W
Dal L
GB L
NYG L
CAR L
SEA W
WAS W
Bills W
MIN L
MIA Tie
PHI L
DET W
NE L
MIN L
NYJ L
GB L
So, based on last years schedule performance, which is what SOS is, of course, based of, the Bears are looking at 5-10-1. But that assumes teams are the same, including the Bears, as last season. OUR SOS is also heavily weighted by MIN and GB (though the Lions drag it down a bit. I posted a comment a while ago on this. I’ll see if I can’t find it and link it, but the SOS thing isn’t something to put a lot of weight on. Hell, the Lions and the Rams have had pretty easy SOS’s over the past few years, and haven’t won a damned thing.
To shorten the original post, though, in case I cannot find it. If you take away divisional games for the SOS (which are always up in the air) then Chicago has one of the easiest SOS’s in the league. It also flips the division upside down. GB then has the hardest, followed by MIN and CHI then Detroit. Add to all of this the fact that the PATs are in decline and have a highly suspect defense, The Jets have a highly suspect offense and might be the most over-rated team in the league, The Eagles have no idea what Kevin Kolb will do, The Giants are in decline, the Cowboys are seriously being questioned, and the "Skins have no line and nobody for McNabb to throw too. Some of those question marks will be washed to the side by good play. But some of will end up on the wrong side of the answer.
This team has a chance. How confident am I in those chances? Not as confident as I’d like to be, for sure. But I won’t ignore the chance, either. At least not until we’ve seen a couple of meaningful games.
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1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 9, 2010 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions
the "Skins have no line and nobody for McNabb to throw to
All the offseason/training camp stuff has been a smokescreen, and Fat Albert emerges as the target for McNabb! That Shanahan’s a wily one.
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To be fair....
While we thought adding Cutler and Pace would add a few wins, we didn’t count on Urlacher and Tinoisamoa being hurt. This team is 7-16 in the two stretches that Urlacher has missed games. That had a lot to do with the drop in performance, for sure. Honestly, you can’t add games to our win column because we added players, and then not account for the losses added by Urlacher’s absence. Hell, I was really worried when Brian went down. The last time that happened, the Bears went winless for the 7 games he was absent. This time they at least went 7-9.
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1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 9, 2010 6:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
I am looking at the addition of Martz and Tice as positives as well, and the loss of Turner as a positive. Add to that a year of meshing for the passing game, a healthy Kreutz and Forte.
Granted, Pace was a flop and our expectations for JC as savior we not as expected. Peppers aside, I don’t underestimate the value of Manu and especially Taylor in relief, who I consider to be a tremendous addition, as I expect to see LOTS of screens, dinks and dunks to compensate for a shaky OL and deep drops.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
It's funny that some of the predictions
On here have us beating Dallas because they are “over rated” and looked bad in the preseason.
If Dallas looked bad in the preseason then what the hell did the bears look like?
by lopey986 on Sep 8, 2010 1:20 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Well I'll make the reverse argument
If the Bears looked so bad then how in the world are people still predicting that team to be in the Superbowl? Their O-line looked every bit as bad as ours in the preseason and Tony Romo looked awful. So why are the Bears terrible and Dallas great? The Giants too for that matter.
Yeah but it worked!
16-0

DA BEARS!!!
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 8, 2010 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
maybe you all have forgotton
But the Superfans already chimed in with their predictions.
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 8, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Da Bears......
I’m talking a minimum 8 peat.
by Dozjah on Sep 8, 2010 1:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Finally the voice of reason.
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“Ditka and the ’85 Super Bearsss drink from da fountain of youth and strap up on their 25th anniversary.”
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 9, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
As i've said before
Bears(8-8) 3rd place behind GB (12-4)
Detroit (9-7)
with the Vikes comming in 4th place at 6-10
I know Detroit are improving but,
Isn’t 9-7 a little too high? Then again, the Dolphins went from 1-15 to 11-5 + division winners, so I guess you never really know.
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
Unless you're Jerry Angelo
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
by GriggsBriggs on Sep 8, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Sep 8, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Lol don't ruin it
=P
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
by GriggsBriggs on Sep 8, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I for one am thankful he's never had those picks to waste
Is Ralph Friedgen fired yet?
Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?
Maybe not, but...
I’m recing it anyways, because #4, and 14 are close enough for me….
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1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 9, 2010 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Schedule
To say the Bears have a tough schedule is to ignore what happens every year. Teams that were good the year before aren’t the next. I believe they were 1-3 during the preseason of the Superbowl year? And like 3-1 when they went 5-11? Let’s just wait till week 5.
I said 6
Mostly because I’m pretty sure we’ll be stuck with Todd Collins for a 4 game stretch after Martz and the O-line team up to knock Cutler out with injury by Nov.
And, I’d love to be wrong but this way if I’m not at least I can have the fact I was right during those cold hellish winter months.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
13-3.
First round of the playoffs at Soldier Field, making it at least to the NFC Championship.
Resistance is futile. Drink the Kool-Aid.
8-8
I think the offensive line will be better than people think and the offense will be pretty good. I think other teams have figured out the bear defensive scheme and will out score us most of the time. We will be fortunate to finish 8-8. The Lion game is a huge trendsetter for the rest of the season confidence wise.
"He is remarkably bright", a "terrific talent", the sky is the limit for Cutler"
-Mike Martz-
Rolling with 7
And that might be generous. If we win more then that’s great. If not hopefully we’ll head into next season with a new HC, GM, Team President, and great first round pick.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
It already feels like we’ve been rebuilding for the past 3 years. At least that way we might have competent people overseeing operations.
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
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Can't argue with that.
Unfortunately the most competent (HC) hiring since Ditka (based on record) is Lovie. I’ll make it worse for you. Aside from Ditka, Lovie is the most competent HC since Halas.
Granted this may be an indictment of ownership and/or management and if we bomb again this year and everybody from Phillips on down gets canned, I won’t lose a bit of sleep.
The good news? It’s do or die.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Unfortunately the most competent (HC) hiring since Ditka (based on record) is Lovie. I’ll make it worse for you. Aside from Ditka, Lovie is the most competent HC since Halas.
Well, when you put it like that… damn.
The good news? It’s do or die.
Either way, the Bears’ fanbase should be fairly satisfied. Of course, if we don’t do and the incumbents refuse to die… >_<
"44 years of football history and nothing to show for it. I wish I wasn’t banned at the Norseman.." - tfrabotta
"Fellas, what are they, unblockable? Is that the '85 Bears over there?" - overheard at Giants' '06 training camp
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Bears 16-0
Green Bay- 0-16
Minny- 0-16
Detriot- 0-16
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by Ditkavsworld on Sep 8, 2010 2:17 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I don't do math in public.
It’s unprecedented it’s never happened.
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No she wouldn't do that. But if she did, it'd be allowed
but only because Ditka is a kind Ditka.
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I'm going with 10 or more.
And sticking to my prediction that they’ll win the division.
I also think people are focusing too much on the wrong things while trying to see how the team is doing.
The biggest problem I see actually isn’t the offensive line, because while it’s a problem they’ll get better. That’s the nature of the offensive line. Even players that are playing abysmally on the line eventually get somewhat better see Omiyale at RG last year.. So while the offensive line isn’t going to be the best in the league, it’s not out of the question to think they are going to get better and the things they’ve shown as far as ability to block on the move and to the outside runs really meshs well with what our RBs are best at.
What I’m actually worried about is the missed tackles. Far too often the secondary is being forced to make the tackle on a play where first contact happened either in the back field or right past the line of scrimmage, it looked a bit better against the Browns, but that was almost entirely second stringers. Turnovers are fantastic, but you have to make sure you bring them down. If you can’t stop the run, you’re going nowhere, and right now our YPC stat looks better than it should due to our second unit including guys like HH and the teams we’ve been playing putting their second and third units on the field a lot. If they can address bringing people to the ground, which they should be able to, I’m still feeling good about everything I felt pretty good about before.
I still think Knox looks great, I still think DA looks great, I still think Hester looks good when used properly. I think Forte has his movement back, and Taylor still has what made Chester Taylor himself. I think Olsen and the TEs are going to be used pretty damn well, which makes me very happy. I think Cutty Ice is Cutty Ice, he’s a gunslinger, but he’s much better at it than Grossman is. The system should do a fairly good job of restraining his nature slightly, but when push comes to shove he has the ability and physical tools to say bolt the pocket and make throws on the run. It’s because of this that I don’t see the OL as the end of the world. As long as they don’t continue allowing guys completely unabated to him, it should all work itself out.
Peppers looks really good, Tommie looks better than he has the last two years which while Isn’t saying a whole lot is better than nothing. Also, Tommie is notorious for slacking off in practice/preseason so there is a chance his current decent status could upgrade to good or very good during the season. Wright looks better than I could have hoped, and Pisa definitely recovered well. I haven’t seen enough of Urlacher to really tell how much he’s rebounded, but at the very least he doesn’t look worse.
I just think the sky is falling crowd have this warped perception of the preseason, and don’t seem to follow when the coaches specifically say they aren’t showing a lot of the things they are going to be doing in the season. That goes double for protection schemes.
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by Jacob Hayes on Sep 8, 2010 2:32 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
I rec'd because this is well thought out for once
….and of course, I agree hahaha. People seem to forget that Detroit was 4-0 during the 2008 preseason.
Hard to buy into what the
“coaches specifically say”, for me at least. I don’t like or trust anything that comes for Halas Hall under the current regime.
Maybe they’ll surprise me by being better than I expect, but they won’t get to crush my hopes this time.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Buying into the evaluation of a player?
Agree entirely, but when a coach says they are running vanilla protection schemes, that’s probably extremely true. I mean, if you watch the games I saw a TE/RB chip it seems like maybe four times over a 4 game set. No NFL coaching staff is going to continue to put any of their tackles on an island after they’ve already been beat three or four times in a regular season game. While the Martzfence does play fast and loose with forcing the line to take care of all blocking, it’s extremely doubtful that you’ll see the exact same blocking in the regular season.
Again, not saying they’ll be fantastic, just better.
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Meh
I’m not sold on any of it. Lovie could say the sky is blue today and I’d want to walk over to a window and check for myself.
I’m sure they’ll be “better” because to be worse would be mind-blowing. But in order to do what Martz wants, they need to be VERY VERY good. And they won’t be. So unless Martz develops a new wrinkle adjusting to personnel (unlikely as I’ve never seen him do that before) we’re going to see LOTS of demonstrations of Jay’s agility and toughness.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Run defense looked pretty good.
Pisa was flying around making plays. The 3rd and long D was bad. But the run D was good enough to force all those 3rd and longs in the first place. The whole we didn’t game plan argument applies to the 3rd and long obvious passing situations. Will they be able to improve there? They better. I got them at 9 wins.
The defense was great, the players were where they needed to be at almost all times in the front 7...
But man, every time they went for the tackle I was cringing a bit. In fact, that’s how Wright finally impressed me by actually tackling the hell out of someone on the spot. Even Briggs missed a few, which is relatively unheard of. I dunno, I’m thinking it’s a product of the weak camps, and it’ll all work its way out by the game with Detroit.
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Going along with the o-line gelling thing
I believe you’re onto something there. A lot of people tend to forget that the ‘85 Bears didn’t come out firing on all cylinders and needed some late game magic to win a couple of their early games before the defense caught their groove and started dominating. Possibly we could see that this year except maybe the opposite: The D is still the same scheme, but the O may need time to get it together, maybe if the D is improved they can help carry some of the load before the offense gets going.
But I’m still not sold on our secondary and our D is much older…
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Sep 8, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I like drinking the bear-aid and buying into the hype....
and at least this year, it isn’t coming from the media. The Bears will surprise a lot of people this year.
2010 record
I’m thinking 8-8. Not quite good enough to get us into the playoffs and since there’s no playoffs, time to clean house. Optimistically speaking, I hope we’re good every year, but I just can’t see it with this coaching staff.
2005 the bears were picked to be the WORST TEAM
in the LEAGUE not the division but the LEAGUE. Well, they started out 1-3 and all the nay sayers were saying told you so. Then what happened? BAM! 8 games in a row and DA BEARZ won 10 of their next 12 and had one of the BEST defenses of the decade. The offense couldnt score 10 pts but the defense wouldnt let the other team even get to 9. That year sure was something one of the few times the crowd and fans were excited to see the defense come out and kick some ass! Dont let these critics influence you! Especially that doosh Schelereth.
By the way it has been 25 years and i think its about time……
but hey….
Im not here to start any trouble………im just here to do……
by Bear Lovin 21 on Sep 8, 2010 4:43 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Some of the changes on base defense
Pos………2009……………………………………………………………2010
RE……….Alex Brown…………………………………………….Jullius Peppers
3tech…..Injured Tommie Harris…………………………..Healthy Tommie Harris
NT……….Anthony Adams………………………………………Anthony Adams
LE……….Adewale Ogunleye………………………………….IZZY/Mark Anderson
WILL…..Lance Briggs……………………………………………Lance Briggs
MLB…….Hunter Hilenmeyer…………………………………..Brian Urlacher
SAM…….Nick Roach………………………………………………Pisa Tinoisamoa
LCB…….Charles Tillman……………………………………….Zachary Bowman
RCB……Zachary Bowman………………………………………Charles Tillman
SS……….Al Afalava…………………………………………………..Chris Harris
FS……….Daniel Manning…………………………………………Major Wright
That is a huge amount of positive turnover from last year and I can’t see our defense regressing due to all of these changes.
by DaHamsta on Sep 8, 2010 5:17 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I understand what you're getting at.
But there’s a ton of question marks regarding these changes too. How good can/will a “healthy” Tommie Harris be? Will Izzy and Anderson prove to be suitable replacements for Ogunleye, our team leader in sacks last year(shouldn’t be too hard to do with Peppers on the other side but still)? Will Url be the disruptive beast of a man and leader we all love? How much does Tillman have left in the tank? Is Harris the answer at SS? Can Major Wright step up as a rookie and be the ball-hawk and center fielder we need him to be?
Every team has their question marks but there are just too many, not only on the defense but the offense as well for me to be too optimistic.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
I said 8-8
The Bears won’t be as bad as some think but they won’t be that great either. Everyone says the OLine needs time to gel but in that offense they have no time. Jay will be crucified if the line doesn’t gel quickly enough. Our D is nothing to get excited about but if that secondary shapes up and learns how to tackle I think they’ll be a middle of the road D. The issue is that Lovie has not changed his scheme in any way. The Bears D is very predictable. Yeah we got Urlacher back but his play his diminished. Not massively but enough to notice. I think it’s safe to say that we all live and die with our Bears but let’s be real, this team will continue to be mediocre. They have the talent but Lovie is an idiot. He consistently b.s’es the fan base and he has done nothing to bring the best out of his players. He doesn’t stress fundamentals and that is why the D has become a shell of it’s former self. A healthy Tommy Harris hasn’t shown me anything so far, Chris Harris hasn’t looked the same, Peanut is still a horrible tackler, Mark Anderson is the starter opposite Peppers and he at most should only be a situational DE and Peppers CAN NOT do everything himself. I hope I am proven wrong but I don’t see the need to drink the kool-aid when this organization has been spoon-feeding us the same crap ever since the SB. The only way this team achieves its potential is to get a whole new coaching staff and GM. Sadly the best way to get that is for the team to do terribly. But when then that happens we will go 16-0 and destroy all on our way to Super Bowl glory. Bear Down lads!
My major concern
is Martz/offense really….Does Martz have the tools needed to run “his offense” especially the offensive line being so iffy…..I know some Bear fans that turn to me and say “well rodgers was sacked 50 times last season and they did ok”….Well hope that happens for the Bears then cause the starting o line giving up something like 15 sacks in what 5 qtrs? Could be a long season…..
Cause I know the defense is not going to change no matter what they say at Halas Hall…..
Though if they are losing early it might get entertaining with potentially everyone turning on each other……
My guesses:
DET – W
DAL – W
GB – L
NYG – L
CAR – W
SEA – W
WAS – L
BUF – W
MIN – L
MIA – L
PHI – W
DET – W
NE – L
MIN – L
NYJ – L
GB – L
for 7 – 9
Getting to know Mike Martz offense with this offensive line? It’s just hours of pure boredom interrupted by moments of unbelievable horror.
- Jay Cutler
I don't think we lose to Min twice
We didn’t even lose to them twice last year.
And we have bettr team this year.
I think we split with GB
and beat MIN both times
9-7
Why? Because I said so. :]
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
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Question then
do they make the playoffs and does Lovie keep his job with 9 – 7?
Getting to know Mike Martz offense with this offensive line? It’s just hours of pure boredom interrupted by moments of unbelievable horror.
- Jay Cutler
The answer I want to hear is.....
The McCaskey’s sell the team, everyone gets fired, except Tice and Martz.
"Most important thought, if you love someone, tell him or her, for you never know what tomorrow may have in store." ~ The Great Walter J. Payton.
Oops! My bad!
Thanks for the correction…….
"Most important thought, if you love someone, tell him or her, for you never know what tomorrow may have in store." ~ The Great Walter J. Payton.
I'd actually keep Babich, too.......
if possible. Keeping Tice and Martz on what they’ve done elsewhere is all fine and dandy, but Babich, while sucking as a sock puppet DC, has been absolutely one of the best linebackers coaches in the league, bar none.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 9, 2010 7:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Like I've said before,
I’m okay with Lovie, so it’s fine with me if he stays!
"A lot of fans were drawn to me because they knew that whatever the score was, I was going to run as hard as I could on every play. You don't have that now, you have guys waiting for next week or even next year." - Walter Payton
Editor/Writer for WindyCityGridiron.com
by Ashley Czuba on Sep 10, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I really think this could go either way
The Bears overall have shown spurts of promise, followed by some ugly moments as well. After losing 32-17 in our first game, I feel we have slowly improved performance and point-wise. We have narrowed the point differential every game, losing the last one to the Browns only by a field goal. The thing that worries me is that we only scored 10 points. However, I do beleive the offense will increase its productivity as the season progresses, but their ultimate success will rely on the performance of the offensive line. There are question marks on defense personell wise. The main thing that aroused my scrutiny there are Rod Marinelli’s excuse that the reason the D was underperforming was due to him not wanting to reveal too many blitzes. 1- Even in it’s base formation, any defense should be effective enough. 2- If your defense is so reliant on the blitz, and can’t make stops without it, that is a bad sign, as it exposes you in the long term. We just have to wait and see.
My MOST OPTIMISTIC prediction for the 2010 season follows-
DET – W
DAL – L
GB – L
NYG –W
CAR – W
SEA – W
WAS – W
BUF – W
MIN – L
MIA – W
PHI – W
DET – W
NE – W
MIN – W
NYJ – L
GB – L
Overall 11-5. Playoffs?
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
One thing that a lot of these predictions have in common...
Its the stretch of games from weeks 4-8. If the Bears can finish at worst 1-2 after 3 weeks, there’s a real possibility the Bears can set themselves up for a real good run. Almost like the opposite of of last year where they started out 3-1. A lot of good things need to happen but like others have said, this schedule may not be as bad as we all first suspected.
Yeah but it worked!
One thing that they all have in common is 2 wins against Detroit.
That is not going to happen against the Lions this year.
QB: Stafford has taken a serious step, solid backups
RB: Best is the first real threat we have had in a decade
FB: Average
TE: Scheffler gives us a deep threat, Pettigrew is just a beast, Heller is solid
WR: Burleson replaced our #2 and put him rightly back at #3
OL: Rob Sims solidified our OL, starters did not give up a single sac in the preseason
DL: Could write a paragraph about the upgrades, increased team sacks & pressures
LB: Questionable / unproven
Secondary: only kept Delmas from last year, young, fast, physical, just a question if they can make plays on the ball
I understand that you guys are excited about the season to start but the Lions have improved a lot more than people realize. If we don’t surpass the Bears this year another year of similar off season moves will seal the deal. The days of writing two easy wins against the Lions are over, thankfully for us Lions fans.
Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!
Let's not get the cart before the horse....
I agree that the Lions have made improvements, and I actually think that they can be a playoff team by 2012 barring lockout. But all the things you just listed their were performance based. You haven’t seen any real performance yet to gage all of that from. You might be right on all counts. But then, you could be reading far too much into the preseason performances (remember ’08?).
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 9, 2010 7:24 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Besides,.....
the Fords will find a way to screw it all up soon enough, just like the McCaskeys do here. Just saying……
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 9, 2010 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Its all about consistency!
Now that I used my favorite cliche, I can move on. But seriously. This team CAN win games against Detroit (twice), New York G., Carolina, Seattle, Washington, Buffalo, Miami and Philly without me being surprised. They could lose some of them too, it depends whether they execute or not. We always lose a couple we shouldn’t, and we usually win a few we shouldn’t too.
We are perfectly capable of splitting with Green Bay and/or Minnesota. If we lost by 1 score in both GB games last year, and beat Minnesota last year, no one should write those off as definite losses this year. Not saying pencil in a “W”, just saying…We CAN win 11 of those 13 without surprising me. We could also lose 6 of those 13 without surprising me.
Dallas is an enigma so I withhold judgment on their team…They looked as bad as we did in pre-season. New England and the New York Jets might just be too much, too different, for our team this year.
I think we could count on losing to the Patriots, Jets, Packers in GB, Vikings in Minny, and everything else is in the air. Best would be 12-4, worst in my “best guess” is 4-12. That’s a huge range and not much of a prediction, but I can’t tell if we will execute, just that we have the ability to win 12 games this season.
Ya, tough to say without seeing a game that's been "planned"
Although Lovie always says the 3rd game is treated like a regular game so we may have actually seen a game plan, just not one that wins. I can see us winning 10, I can also see us winning 4-5 and ending the season on a 7 game losing streak. Too early to tell. I’m still optimistic enough to take the Buffalo game as a win and think we’ll no worse than split with Detroit mostly because division games are usually close and any freak string of events could occur.
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Is my mind a'goin on me or am I watchin you jibber jabber like some sorta jibberty box. Jibber Jabber on! Jibber Jabber on! -- Early Cuyler
"The Bears are what we thought they were.....
They’re what we thought they were. We played them in preseason — who the hell takes a third game of the preseason like it’s bullsh*t? Bullsh*t! We played them in the third game — everybody played three quarters — the Bears are who we thought they were! That’s why we took the damn field. Now if you want to crown them, then crown their ass! But they are who we thought they were!" – Dennis “Ron Jeremy” Green
My greatest dilemma with Bears v.2010 is that don’t really “know who they are”. I see a very very good defensive front seven. I love our safeties (Wright and Harris) and I believe our corners are adequate (damning statement if there ever was one). Offensively I really like Louis, Garza and Kreutz. The tackles are the only worry….the tackles hold the key to success this year.
Maybe now is a good time to crown the Bears versus anointing the Cowboys or Packers as this year’s media darling.
There is no "Off Position" for the Genius Switch - David Letterman
Sure this is largely dead by now
but just saw this tweet, figured I’d pass it along:
Football Outsiders project the #Bears to finish 9-7, good for a wildcard spot. Here are some points from their Almanac http://bit.ly/9Q2cuj
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Man!, it really does
pain me, there are few things I dig more than Da’ Bears, just cant realistically see much more than a 5, maybe 6 win season. I’m more than willing to eat some crow, we’ll know before all that long how it’s gonna’ shake out my friends. Go Bears!………………………………..FYI….latest power rankings…Bears-21-29…..
"most football players are temperamental, thats 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental" Doug Plank

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