Bear (Count)Down!
by Mark Saade on Sep 8, 2010 3:37 PM CDT
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PrintWell, here we are. The 2010 NFL season is finally upon us. Months of guessing, worrying, excitement, and a whole host of other emotions will come to a tipping point in a few short days.
Hopefully these emotions will carry on for the next five months. Each week our moods will be determined by how our Bears fared on game day.
There was optimism leading up to August. The Bears brought in some high profile free agents to plug glaring player needs. They also brought in high profile coaches to fix glaring player imperfections. All looked good on the Lake front.
Then preseason happened. After losing four straight meaningless games, our hearts have sunk. Lovie and Jerry might as well quit now so that they don’t have to stand before the firing squad. Our loyal fan base is already predicting a 0-1 start and another season completed in 17 short weeks.
After waiting, better yet, pining over the last several months for Bears football, some are ready to cast off this season even before Dave Matthews or Taylor Swift take the stage in New Orleans.
I understand the logic. Nobody likes heartache. It’s better to put up a wall than to lay down a draw bridge. Don’t let any good feelings in, because our Bears will just rip them from our soul. OK, maybe that’s a little extreme.
But we are an extreme fan base. Like me, many of you live and die by our Bears.
We are tired of dying. That’s understandable.
However, there is no telling what this season may bring. As Bears fans, we should expect the unexpected.
In 2005, did we really envision a neck bearded, rookie quarterback leading us to a division crown? After 2006, didn’t Lovie look like the coach we have longed for since Iron Mike?
NFL stands for the National Football League, but it could also be an acronym for Nothing From Last year. Meaning, we never know what is going to happen. That’s the fun of it.
I have the utmost confidence that my Bears will begin this season 1-0. If, for some reason, pigs grow wings, the Devil starts eating ice cream, and Detroit squeaks out a victory; it’s all right, 15-1 isn’t so bad.
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You heard it here first.....
The Bears will win week one, lose week two, win the next 11 straight, then lose 3 in a row to end the year.
by Dozjah on Sep 8, 2010 4:15 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I heard this over on the other thread
A couple hours ago. :)
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by Kev H on Sep 8, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey.....
That was me as well lol!!! Good thing you are paying attention.
by Dozjah on Sep 8, 2010 4:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Therefore, he didn't hear it here first...
You lied, he heard it here second!
BTW, I hope you’re right.
by I Have Bearsititis on Sep 8, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
2010.
The year that redeems Lovie as a good coach, Urlacher as a Pro Bowl MLB, Kreutz as an all-around beast, and J-Sizzle as a Pro Bowl QB.
Angelo, Phillips, and the whole McCaskey clan are on their own.
yeah i'm so gloomy and you are so positive
but back to reality…:
In 2005, did we really envision a neck bearded, rookie quarterback leading us to a division crown? Yes. Orton was good his rookie season and #8 always blew.
After 2006, didn’t Lovie look like the coach we have longed for since Iron Mike? No. Reason is " ‘#8’ is our quarterback". See answer to question above and i have said it before but if Orton started over #8 in the Super Bowl then we would have won.
Every year other teams improve, but we are stuck in quick sand. The Lions have more to be enthusiastic about then us right now regardless of what happens in week #1. All we have right now is all we have had for the last several years but have been unable or unwilling to use, #23’s speed. I guess I’m excited to see Peppers too but he and Hester are basically the only 2 of our guys consistently better then their counterparts on the other team (either at the same position or on the other side of the line of scrimmage).
The defense is not intimidating any opposing offense. Maybe they change that, but I am pretty sure the D has not finished their downward spiral.
Wait a minute.
You’re not excited to see Martz’s offense with Cutler at the helm? You’re not excited to see a healthy Forte and a complementary Taylor? You’re not excited to see a healthy, yoked Harris? You’re not excited to see Urlacher back in action?
I’ll admit, there are definitely question marks on the O-line and in the secondary, but cheer up. The Lions might have more reason to be enthusiastic, but that’s by virtue of their suckiness the last few years. Their improvements this offseason must look like a ray of sunshine to a trapped miner.
Finally, as far as using Hester’s speed, if we don’t see a multitude of bombs to Hester and Knox from the rocket that is Cutler’s arm, I’ll… well I can’t even fathom that. There will be bombs and that’s a given.
Coming from a Lions fan
Martz is going to get your QB killed. Martz + weak offensive line = dead QB
Lions fans deserve better than being the laughing stock of the NFL. Lets all hope they are heading in the right direction finally.
agreed
It may take a small act from god himself to get Cutler through all 16 games with Martz running the offense. His protection schemes are not that good to begin with. And throw in a shaky offensive line and there are gonna be some serious problems there.
When did Warner and Kitna die?
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by Ditkavsworld on Sep 9, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
At the same time Muhsin went to Chicago.
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 9, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Well that makes sense.
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No.
I’m not excited to see Martz with our personnel. I’ve seen Martz. And while I do LOVE the idea of an offense that is actually designed to be aggressive, I’d rather it came from a non-retread.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
So a coach is the same no matter what personnel are available?
No offense (no pun intended), but I’ve seen Martz too… win a Super Bowl. And improve the offenses in Detroit and SF, two sorry teams that got a little less sorry in general when he was there. That’s a retread that could have a few thousand left on it still to say the least.
People, last year and the year before were not that bad!! In each there were a couple of nail-biters that could have put our beloved Bears into the playoffs instead of the middle of the pack. A healthy Urlacher, Kreutz, Forte, a healthier Harris, and things are looking good to me right now. (Pause for drink of vodka-laden powdered juice beverage)
GO BEARS.
If you can buy in, good for you.
I can’t seem to. And I’ve been trying for months.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Better
but I’m not going to get giggly.
I will however promise to do my best NOT to rain on everyone else if that happens. :-P
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Fine, I will get giggly.
My wife will probably prefer that to me shouting at the TV anyway. And my dogs. And the neighbors.
My dogs are used to it by now
The joy of being a Cubs fan, blah.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
No It All,
When you watch the game on Sunday, will you be cheering for the Lions? Honest question. I don’t see how you are a Bears fan but will be sitting there saying how much they suck and how Detroit is so much better . After the Bears score touchdowns, do you get upset? I don’t understand, really. Please explain to me what’s it like to go against your so called favorite team on game day.
Space Mountain on Three; One, Two, Three, Space Mountain!
always root for the Bears
butt i’m just a realist. Truth is i am amazed when we win games or score. Usually when we win it isnt because of our dominant performance. This is a very frustrating team to be a fan of. They have no discernible direction other then down in the standings. They have no identity and have not for awhile (Mike Brown gave us a glimpse of identity once upon a time).
I think the Lions will win because they seem to be focused on winning and improving whereas my Bears seem to only wanna collect their pay checks. Maybe that is unfair butt as a life long fan that is my impression and it did not happen over night.
This is "realism" too, NIA...
Detroit has upgraded their D-Line… But they still play mostly the same LBs and Secondary that has been torched over the last two years. And we’ve seen flashes of what Cutler and our WRs can do, and add in that Forte’s best performances last year were against… You guessed it, Detroit.
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 9, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
not exactly correct
Only one starter of three from the LBs is the same from last year and the Secondary is all new starters. Frankly, coming from a lions fan, I am petrified by our secondary.
Lions fans deserve better than being the laughing stock of the NFL. Lets all hope they are heading in the right direction finally.
Ok, thank you for the correction.
Still nothing that keeps me up at night.
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 10, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Apart from Delmas? Or is he still out with the groin injury?
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Realist, no
pessimist yes..
"He is remarkably bright", a "terrific talent", the sky is the limit for Cutler"
-Mike Martz-
"you don't see it the same way i do, so you're not a real fan".
Oh, internet. How I love you.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
Did you really say Orton was good his rookie season?
51.6% passer averaging a mighty 5 yards per attempt for 9 touchdowns to go with 13 interceptions, with 30 sacks, with 6 fumbles and a stellar 59.7 QB rating. He started 15 games that season.
I don’t discount your right to be negative about THIS season, but please keep past seasons in a realistic perspective. In 2005, Kyle Orton was Jamarcus Russell ala 2008…But actually, worse.
Right...
because wins are the best and only way to judge a quarterback when it wasn’t even the quarterback that helped the team win. I’ve said it before, that defense is the only way that team goes to the playoffs.
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 9, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
That is f'ing great
but it’s also a meaningless stat.
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 9, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
out of all the bs stats you eat up with a spoon, a starting QB's win/loss record is the one you designate meaningless
GTFO just like your credibility.
Hm, should we start with...
- The QB isn’t the only player on the field?
- The QB only plays one half of the time?
- The QB is reliant on 5 guys keeping his ass on his feel and on five other guys to catch and move the ball, and eleven other guys to prevent the other team from moving it?
… as reasons why a QB’s win/loss record is irrelevant?
Here’s a hint, NIA, if the QB puts up horsecrap stats and the team wins, either the running back, special teams or the defense had one hell of a day…
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 9, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
One player's win/loss stat is meaningless.
How often does ONE guy win a game by himself? Way less often than 18 games a year.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
So Trent Dilfer = Peyton Manning?
Dilfer’s got his ring too. F’ing great. If a QB is simply the sum of his teams wins and losses, and not his performance in those games, well…
Ken Stabler, Doug Williams, Jeff Hostetler and Brad Johnson are all waiting for their Hall of Fame bids…After all, Marino never even won the big game, he is just Rex Grossman, but in Miami. We could play that game all day….
But what makes a great QB is wins that they contribute to. In 2008, Orton’s best year as a Bear, he led us to a bottom 5 in the NFL in time of possession…Despite being paired with a defense, that while sucking hard at some things, still ranked top 5 in the NFL in 3rd down defense!
Rock stars and roadies.
by Brendan Hess on Sep 9, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Had nothing to do with a great defense though
for a QB that was assigned to basically hand off the ball..
"He is remarkably bright", a "terrific talent", the sky is the limit for Cutler"
-Mike Martz-
Ding.
Orton’s team winning does not necessarily equal Orton having a good season – especially when that team barely scored ten points a game.
by Steven Schweickert on Sep 9, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
You perfectly summed up life as a Bears fan:
Don’t let any good feelings in, because our Bears will just rip them from our soul.
I saw the Bears at 10-6 before pre-season. Now I’m scaling that back to 9-7, provided Brett Favre goes on IR for breaking his dentures.
by NorthSideBearsFan on Sep 8, 2010 8:39 PM CDT reply actions
What's changed since '06?
New offense, with only Kreutz, Garza and Dez left over … oh yeah, Rashied “Rock Hands” was there too. Hester unfortunately lost his PR mojo. He may get it back this year. Even a few returns taken to the house would be a welcome site.
On defense, obviously Peppers has to make up for Ogun and MAnderson (having career years). Pisa is an upgrade over HH at SAM, though Url still has to show he has a little bit left in the tank … and there’s no Tank at DT, just a hope that TH is back to form and that Adams and Toe can combine to something serviceable. The potential big weakness is in the defensive backfield. If the Bears can consistently muster a decent pass rush, then the DB’s may not be such a worry.
Looking back it’s hard to believe that Turner led the Bear’s O to a Superbowl berth. The talent level was high enough that the Bears succeeded in ’06 in spite of Turner and Lubbie. They may do it again this season in spite of Lubbie.
What's a century to a tortoise?
This season could go either way perriod
Lets face it nobody knows what is going to happen, 11-5 is possible if Favre and Rodgers both go down in freak injuries and we stay healthy. We could go 5-11 if the O line stinks, the defense fails and we lose Briggs, Peppers, and Wright to injuries. But really until we actually see a few quarters of regular season play from us and the rest of the division knowbody knows squat. This season starts with so much uncertainty that no one can say for certain. Let’s start with a solid win over Detroit, a nice soft way to open up and go from there.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Sep 8, 2010 9:03 PM CDT reply actions
Welcome to the Cellar Bears, I can only hope that Marinelli and Martz do for you what they did for the Lions
Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!
Lions went 7 - 9 with Martz and 2 - 30 since he left IIRC
Is Ralph Friedgen fired yet?
Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?
Tell you what they won't be doing.
Leading Da Bears to an 0-16 season.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
Yeah, that was all their fault.
Had nothing to do with Millen, right?
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And nothing to do with a dearth of talent.
Roy “Nostradamus” Williams and his invisibility powers aside.
Like it or not they were Millen Picks, and we all know what he knows about football
Martz might be an offensive genius, but he tends to make things explode as he experiments. He also tends to do a lot better with some old veteran retread of a quarterback than one with any real talent. You have to wonder why you guys dropped LeFevour and brought IN Collins. To make matters worse Martz destroyed every quarterback in the process because they got shell shocked. I am not sold on Martz being able to mesh with Cutler and keep him healthy.
He barely won a super bowl and the hall of fame talent that team had was legendary. I doubt if Forte is Faulk, Hester is Holt, Knox is Bruce, or Bennett is Hakeem. Not to mention no one there to be your Rickey Prohel. Martz also had arguably one of the best left tackles ever protecting Warner and Bulgers blind side, and they still got pounded into the dirt. In Detroit he was successful for half the season then got shut down, granted he had less talent here to work with than anywhere else. And he was fired pretty quickly in San Francisco too.
Martz might help you guys in the short term, but long term he is just an accident waiting to happen and I would be surprised if he keeps his job for more than 2 years.
Marinelli I liked and he may redeem his career as I said somewhere on this site, but for all his hype he never got much out of our defense. And a lot of the guys we had were his choice, from DeWayne White to Teddy Lehman, he constantly found ways to under produce. I have seen the same thing with you guys, since he has come there I see no improvement in your line or defense. Somehow he has managed to go to a team that was already built for the Tampa 2, already had the good personnel, and make them worse.
Millen has plenty of blame there but he didn’t go to that dance alone and he was not the only one with two left feet.
Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!
You have to wonder why you guys dropped LeFevour and brought IN Collins.
You may have to wonder but we don’t. Our #2 QB Caleb Hanie went down with a shoulder injury so we went and got a viable vet QB who has experience in a similar system. It’s not crazy to think that a Vet is a better option over a project rookie 6th round pick. Seriously a little research goes a long way.
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by Ditkavsworld on Sep 9, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
If your line could block you woulden't even have needed to make that move
But the underlying suggestion is that Martz is already putting he backup plan in place, it does not speak very well for his confidence in the offensive line or Cutler.
Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!
"the backup"
I really need to double read before I hit enter :)
Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!
Actually...
… I think he’s simplifying the game plan. That way the blockers have a concise view of what their expectations are.
Makes sense, but has yet to be determined. We’ll see on Sunday.
Semper Fi
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 9, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
This is funny coming from a team
with a perrennial poor Offenisve Line.
"He is remarkably bright", a "terrific talent", the sky is the limit for Cutler"
-Mike Martz-
Don't you mean a perrennial poor team ?
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by MidWayMonster54 on Sep 9, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
High profile coaches?
This is the second time in as many days I’ve read about the cardinals bringing in either good or high profile coaches, to this I ask who? Mike martz, who no team wanted and who the bears didnt even want (they extended the oc job to 4 other coaches first). Mike tice? The day I get excited about a failed Minnesota head coach is the day I get excited about a failed Minnesota head coach, sorry there’s just no way to complete that analogy because nothing else could be worse than that.
by lopey986 on Sep 9, 2010 9:16 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I don't know what Martz and Tice
have to do with the Cardinals bringing in good or high profile coaches.
by Brendan Hess on Sep 9, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
me neither
i thought it was lack of caffeine.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
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