3 Offensive Coordinators in 3 years for Jay Cutler
This is a subject that's been broached before here on WCG (and one I even tackled), but listening to all the talking heads spew on and on about some of the differences between Jay Cutler and Aaron Rodgers, more specifically how better Rodgers is, I just feel it needs to be said again. Jay Cutler has had three different play callers the last three years while Aaron Rodgers has been in the same system his entire professional career. Now before I get all up into what I want to get into, and before I'm accused by some trolling Packer fans of bashing Rodgers, let me throw this out there. I think Rodgers is an outstanding QB. I think he was robbed of a Pro Bowl berth this season. And...uhm...and I know I'll catch some flack for this next statement, but I think Aaron Rodgers is a better QB than Jay Cutler at this point in their careers.
That's not a knock on Cutler as much as it is a testament to the way Rodgers has played in his few years running the show in Green Bay. But again, Rodgers should be playing at a higher level, his mastery of Mike McCarthys offense allows him to confidently go out and play. He knows his offense like my wife knows how to make a good red sauce. No directions needed. As excited as I am to see Jay Cutler play for Chicago, I'm even more excited thinking of the future and how good he'll be in year 2, and 3, and maybe even year 4 in running the same offense.
I can't get over how the national media is just fawning over Rodgers. I'm sure some of it is the familiarity of drooling over a Green Bay QB, but lets keep things in perspective please. To make things even worse, some journalists in Chicago seem to be man crushing on A-Rod. Perspective fellas...
Jay Cutler's last season as a Bronco it was Kyle Shanahan calling plays in his father Mike's system. A system that was a run heavy version of the West Coast offense. And a system that featured a lot of boots and roll outs. A system that allowed Cutler to get outside the pocket and let his athleticism take over.
In 2009, Cutler had the Ron Turner version of the West Coast offense. Some of the verbiage may have been similar, but it was much more closer to the traditional West Coast offense than the Shanahan version. It took Turner until the last part of the season before he started to call stuff closer to what Cutler was used to running in Denver. Getting him outside the pocket and on the move.
This season brings an entirely different animal in the Martzfense. Mike Martz's offshoot of the Air Coryell offense features more timing based throws and deeper routes. It's an offense that wants to stretch the field vertically and that looks to take advantage of mismatches that are created by various offensive formations and shifts. Martz is like a master chess player. He'll move his pieces all around the board trying to either confuse you or to get you to tip your hand. It's why audibles aren't a big part of what he does. He'll have some check with me plays that the QB will run based on how a defense looks when the QB comes to the line, but Martz feels every play he calls, if executed properly, can be successful. These three offenses in three years is akin to learning Spanish, then Italian, then Russian. It can be done, it just takes some tome to master all the little things.
This game will be hyped as Jay Cutler vs. Aaron Rodgers, but unless Jay is giving Urlacher a break on D that just ain't telling the whole story. I get the QB angle the media will want to exploit, but please keep it real. Talk about how Cutler will need to deal with the various blitzes of Packers defensive coordinator Dom Capers and how Rodgers will have find a way to attack the multiple coverage looks Bears defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli will throw at him.
Maybe throw in how Rodgers struggled with the generic Bears defense in week 17, in a game that was essentially a playoff game for Green Bay, and a game Chicago went into with 2 main goals, don't show the Packers or any potential playoff opponent anything and don't get hurt. Yeah...there's your angle FOX Sports now run with it.
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Definitely an overlooked part of the comparison
Even Peyton Manning has struggled (a bit, for him) with the changing of offensive coaching staff members. Cutler isn’t perfect, and Rodgers is better at this point (ow! lightning blast), but Cutler survived his year with Turner and has improved in his first year with Martz. Continuity on the coaching staff can help his production and comfort level – as long as mad martz stays in the closet with bad jay.
If its free, take two.
Frank Reich?
I assume your referring to the Colts first year Wide Receivers Coach, Mr. Ron “Halfback Dive” Turner. Which, of course, explains a lot.
If its free, take two.
Apologies...
I knew he was involved with the offense in some way. Thought it was as QB coach. Guess I was wrong. Point stands, though.
Mr. Ron "HalfbackFullback Dive" Turner
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Jan 18, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
It doesn't explain anything.
With regards to Peyton’s struggles, it was mostly because of injuries. The Colts have had significant injuries to their RB, TE, and WR corps throughout the year. The familiarity of Peyton and his targets are jelled by the preseason work they put in together. They spend countless hours in the preseason working on routes and tendencies. Turner has little control over the WR’s. Peyton molds them to his liking and that’s how it will always be. Turner was and will always be bad at any offensive job but he shouldn’t be held accountable for what happened this year.
Niemi was good, but Turco has a force field...
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Jan 19, 2011 12:19 AM CST up reply actions
Great Post as always Sir.
I’ve marveled at Jay’s ability to adapt. It isn’t easy. The more he and the offense run the system, the better they get. We have all witnessed this that last half of the season. Every week, MORE confidence, BETTER execution, GREATER results.
This ain’t yo’ mama’s week 3 Chicago Bears.
I expect a REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY great game this weekend, win or win.
Just win dammit!
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jan 18, 2011 2:27 PM CST reply actions
I personally thought next year was this teams destiny year
This season is a total gift and if we can get this NFC Champioship game we can steal a SB. We add a couple of Olineman and a big tall go up and get it receiver we can expect to continue with this success into the next season. Also we dont lose a ton to free agency this year so I expect good continuity.
Cutler will get back to the Pro Bowl next season once he has a full season and offseason to really soak it all up. I am sure during the offseason he will have a few off those “eureka” moments where some aspect of the offense that he was unsure about will just click. Also the guy is young, everyone expects so much from Jay but keep in mind he is in his 5th year as a pro and that is about when you expect a QB to start really getting it and I think he is right on schedule for him.
Anyway, the good Jay shows up and we win this one straight away.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 18, 2011 2:37 PM CST reply actions
Focus on the draft is up there but
most of the focus should be on keeping current coaching staff. As hard as it is for me to say this, Lovie too. The Bears position coaches will be hot commodities given the current head coach market. The farther they go, the more likely they will take any offer at another chance at being a HC.
If you give the current coaching staff a chance at working together with Angelo to draft the best and most needed players, we will be very scary next year. The staff will determine what happens in the draft and next season.
I truly believe we are solid on the WR position. Hester, Knox, Bennet, and Olsen fit perfectly with the Martzfense. Homerun targets combined with genuine possession sub-targets. Combine Forte with them and it’s the perfect storm. The draft focus should really be on the O-line and a possible D-line or CB.
Niemi was good, but Turco has a force field...
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Jan 19, 2011 12:35 AM CST up reply actions
I agree with letting Lovie finish out his contract
But I also think if he gets to the Super Bowl again this year they will give him an extension. Deserved? That remains to be seen, but if we can keep Martz and Tice and draft and sign key players it does look good..
by Chitownproduct on Jan 19, 2011 8:20 AM CST up reply actions
Curious
Who all is up for free agent next season? Haven’t been paying attention to that closely enough. None of the key players, I hope.
Bears' free agents after this season.
LINK
Unrestricted free agents after this season:
C Olin Kreutz [keep]
DT Anthony Adams [must keep]
SS Danieal Manning [keep]
LB Pisa Tinoisamoa [him or Roach, not both]
LB Nick Roach [him or Pisa, not both]
CB Corey Graham [must keep]
P Brad Maynard [undecided]
TE Desmond Clark [gone]
LB Brian Iwuh [?]
WR Rashied Davis [?]
RB Garrett Wolfe [gone]
LB Rod Wilson [gone]
S Josh Bullocks [gone]
QB Todd Collins [gone, I hope]
by Mike Mueller on Jan 19, 2011 8:42 AM CST up reply actions
i for one am thankful he won't be giving birth at the pro bowl
Rodgers, that is.
"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott
Hopefully Martz sticks around so Jay can continue to develop in this offense.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I'm hoping
pretty much everyone stays around. The ex-coaches club we’ve got going is getting high marks from me, this season.
I heard that he wants to go into being a HC again
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I think it's too soon for him to land a HC job.
Another year or two, maybe, but not yet. He’s pissed off too many people around the league.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
I remember
before we got Martz, how Jeremy Bates didn’t want to interview with the Bears and rather join Carroll and the Seahawks, this being a more secure move for his future. Pretty funny he’s send packing after one season.
One word ....
…… Karma .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 18, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
Great point
Forgot we went after him, in the end I am glad we got who we got. This cult of Ex Head coaches makes for some interesting scenerios.
The guy who must really be loving life is Hot Rod Marinelli, two years ago he was coaching the 0-16 Lions and now he is a game from the SB. Imagine how much he must he must be loving life at this point.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 18, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
WoW didnt know
that bates was fired….Wonder if Cutler will lobby for him to get picked up as an assistant coach…..Wonder if martz be upset if he did…..
Everything I learned in life I learned from rex grossman....Oh and cade mcnown......
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for the playoffs
by CloudyFuture on Jan 18, 2011 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Not sure who/if Martz has somebody learning his offense under him.
But I’m hoping he does for our sake. If our offense improves during the off-season and plays up to par with or above what they’ve played here recently, I can’t see Martz sticking around here after next season.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
Shane Day came with him
from san fran and is the QB coach (martz hired him on in san fran)…..But not only is he young but he has never called plays and this is only his 2nd season in the NFL IIRC…..So would not exactly fill me with confidence should martz leave…..But martz would have to lead the Bears to a Super Bowl this year and pump up the Bears Offensive stats next season for him to get job offers IMO….Unless you are thinking martz will retire?…..
Everything I learned in life I learned from rex grossman....Oh and cade mcnown......
- Jay Cutler on getting ready for the playoffs
by CloudyFuture on Jan 18, 2011 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
Definitely don't see him retiring.
Nor would I feel comfortable with Day as our OC. I just see this team being so much better next year offensively than they were this season.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
I was surprised that during Sunday's game
The broadcasters did not mention once Bates’ past with Cutler and how he spurned the Bears for Seattle.
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Jan 18, 2011 6:21 PM CST up reply actions
I must admit
I was shocked when i saw that on Around the Horn. I think Bates got a raw deal with that but..Karma is a you know what.
by Chitownproduct on Jan 19, 2011 8:21 AM CST up reply actions
Packer fan speaking
Jay does catch a lot of criticism unfairly. As you said, 3 OC’s in the last 3 years. Matter of fact, 3 OC’s in his entire 4 year career. Jay doesn’t get the same treatment as Jason Campbell. Everyone is always saying about Campbell – “He’s good, but he has never reached his potential because he’s had a new offensive system every year he’s played:” But no one ever gives Jay that same credit.
Yeah, sure, Campbell spent four years with the Redskins, but I still think it’s a testament to Jay’s skill. I mean, learning a new offense is essentially like starting at a new job. Each offense has different jargon and a different way of doing things.
I think Sunday is going to be the start of a new era in our prospective teams’ rivalry. Both of these teams are just going to get better in the upcoming years.
Hear hear!
Rodgers went through the grind of waiting year after year for Farve to retire, and has proved to be worth the wait. A great QB on a young, talented squad. As Bears’ fans, we’re happy with finally having a QB capable of great performances, hopefully he continues to grow with Martz and can take us to great things.
If its free, take two.
It all started
When Jay wanted out of Denver because he didn’t care for McDaniels. Now that they are both gone from Denver, you would think that bad blood would leave. It is just easy to bash him and jump on the bandwagon so let them do it. Cutler will prove everyone but Bear fans wrong (cause we know he is better than ANY QB the bears have had in ever) and it will be sweet.
by Minds_Eye024 on Jan 18, 2011 7:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nothing wrong with admitting the obvious
Rodgers is an amazing QB, with every chance of outperforming the farver in averages (I don’t think he’ll be playing by 35, let alone 40 to compete in absolute numbers) and Superbowls. It’s the media slobbering over him that is totally uncalled for – Midnight Cowboy pretty much takes any chance to say how great he is, how good the pass was (even if most of the play was on Donald Driver), how good he smells, and so on. I think he was about to compare him to Joe Montana more than once.
That said, I’m perfectly happy with Cutler and wouldn’t trade him for any other QB at this point (maybe Roethlisberger). He’s trusting his arms and legs a lot more, and hopefully he’ll have a better o-line, and maybe maybe a top WR from FAs next season. Just give him some stability along with it – if not Martz, then someone of the same style.
Great Post, Lester
This is one of the main reasons why I wanted to the Bears to clean house with the coaching staff after last season. I figured they’d bring in an offensive minded coach that would give Cutler 3 to 4 years (at least) with the same offense and same coordinator. But, I did not see this team and staff putting together an NFC playoff run! So, now, I’m hoping they keep Martz for a few years to see what this offense can become.
As much as I’ve been hard on Cutler for his 1-2 bad decisions each game, he has done a remarkable job considering the different offenses AND the pounding he has taken this year.
What amazes me about Rodgers, by the way, is his accuracy. The guy always puts the ball on the numbers. He’s like a Juggs machine throwing the football…
Hope Martz can make a disciple or two in the process.
Continue the scheme in the future too.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Jan 18, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
I saw,
And laughed.
I would gladly disciple under Martz for two, three years, if there was a candidate needed for such a task… but sadly, I don’t think there is.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Jan 18, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
you said "Juggs", pardon my immaturity.
All women are beautiful when the lights are off!
by touchdown bears on Jan 19, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
BTW, ESPN is reporting no re-sod of the field this week
They are going with the field as is, probably based on the fact that we looked good against Seattle so lets not screw with the formula that worked last week. I think our guys (Tillman looking at you) have figured out the field and it shouldn’t be a factor for us. Now the other guys thats another story.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 18, 2011 3:09 PM CST reply actions
I don't think they can
The Bears don’t own Soldier Field, the City does
All women are beautiful when the lights are off!
by touchdown bears on Jan 19, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
It's scary to think how good Cutler will be
with 3 or 4 years in the same system. No doubt Rodgers is a great QB, but I think he’s entering his prime right now. He’ll be good for a while, but I don’t think he can play much better than he is now.
Cutler on the other hand is just getting his feet wet. Once he gets a handle on the system (and don’t forgot about the rest of the offense growing with him), we’ll have a passing attack more potent than any we’ve seen in Chicago. I think I just messed up my pants in anticipation…
by NorthSideBearsFan on Jan 18, 2011 3:28 PM CST reply actions
Dont worry bears fans
Just heard on 670 that Jim Cornelison WILL be singing the national anthem sunday, just in from Sean Jensen. DeWyze will perform at halftime. nice!
by Andrew Sturtevant on Jan 18, 2011 4:37 PM CST reply actions
SWEEEEET.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Jan 18, 2011 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like they just avoided a riot.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Jan 18, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
Rodgers is better at this point in his career
because he basically walked into a pre-tuned offense with a very strong supporting cast. All the other pieces where already in place. I give him full credit for his strong performances. Cutler meanwhile had to learn an entirely new and complex system this offseason, along with the rest of the offense, many of which are very young as well. Give him another year or two, and we can make another comparison.
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
Good point
Martz’s offense is supposed to be so complex that a QB would need YEARS of working in it to really comprehend it and use it to its fullest extent. If Martz sticks around another two years, Cutler could be God-like.
Better than Kurt Warner
Erik Duerrwaecter
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 18, 2011 7:12 PM CST up reply actions
Now thats a level that is unreachable
Erik Duerrwaecter
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 18, 2011 7:14 PM CST up reply actions
jim harbaugh, waddle, neal anderson?
by chiguy8506 on Jan 19, 2011 7:45 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
This is Rodger's 6th year in McCarthy's system
So, it’s not really an apples-to-apples comparison, to begin with. If Martz stays in Chicago, and the team continues to build and add the necessary pieces around Cutler, then Jay will probably be playing at Rodger’s level by next year.
By the way everyone
Cornelison gets national anthem sunday!!! Dewyze moved to halftime!!
"Better lucky than Good", but we are good! We really are..
I hate to be "this guy"
But I would still much rather have Rodgers than Cutler, regardless of how many OCs each of them have had. Of course, I do believe that Cutler is a much better QB than the media makes him out to be, but he does have his share of bad games. Rodgers, on the other hand, rarely loses games for his team.
Thanks Bobby!
Ty jimmy.
Hasslebeck(the respected one i think) has a couple years left in the tank. they have the capabilty of have a soild 1-2 punch at rb. and can develop Williams. with being said 35-24 Da Bears.
That move came as a complete shock to me
And ironically they are pushing for McDanials for their OC, the guy Cutler never liked in the first place.
Erik Duerrwaecter
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 18, 2011 7:21 PM CST up reply actions
I expect things to get worse again for Cutler
When at the end of this year or next year, Martz leaves to become Head Coach somewhere
It doesn't look like he's going to get an HC call this year...
As he is NOT Al Davis’ guy.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Jan 18, 2011 6:03 PM CST up reply actions
or hey if and when Norv Turner gets fired he can come here as the OC. He runs a similar system to Martz
by frenchbears113 on Jan 18, 2011 6:21 PM CST up reply actions
"Similar"
Might as well hire Ken Zampese from Cincy…
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Jan 18, 2011 6:40 PM CST up reply actions
well I would rather have a guy who made guys like Aikman and Rivers great
by frenchbears113 on Jan 18, 2011 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
Lets not worry about that right now
Martz appears to be here for the forseable future; now if he does leave then Ron Turner appears to be the only worthy candidate as he runs a system that is very close to ours, except it has a bit more focus on TEs so he would be a benifit to Olsen. But like I said right now Cutler is the QB Martz wants to coach and as long as Cutler is in Chicago then so will Martz
Erik Duerrwaecter
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 18, 2011 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
NORV***
Ditka!!!
Erik Duerrwaecter
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 18, 2011 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
Ron Norv Turner
Erik Duerrwaecter
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 18, 2011 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
Ditka would indeed solve many problems
Erik Duerrwaecter
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 18, 2011 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
can't tell
when you people start joking. Ron Turner? Ditka? gottabekiddingme!
whatever happened to learning from the past?
Those who live
in the past are cowards and losers.
by Glenn Eckholm on Jan 18, 2011 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
and apparently Tim Hasselbeck and Colin Cowhere said that Mark Sanchez has surpassed Jay Cutler as a better QB...
And the hate goes on. I am dying for a Super Bowl but now I hope Jay just lights up the remaining teams and gives one big middle finger to the haters and especially Tim Hasselbeck. What a c***sucker
yeah I heard it in Waddle and Silvy...
seriously I can not understand just why Hasselbeck hates Jay so much. Sanchez has a better receiving core than Jay does and has a far superior line. Take that away and you get the Sanchez of last season. And let us not forget that Jay thoroughly out-dueled Sanchez when they met. But hey he plays for a New York team so of course he’s the second coming of Namath…. which basically means he’ll forever be famous for being overrated.
by frenchbears113 on Jan 18, 2011 6:38 PM CST up reply actions
Cutler is catching SO much heat!
I just don’t understand it. Maybe he’s been a dick to the media. Who hasn’t? Maybe he is an arrogant punk from Vandy who thinks he’s smarter than the people giving him interviews. How many arrogant reporters are out there that think they’re smarter than the players, then act like it? Maybe he just doesn’t like the attention and spotlight and it rubs people the wrong way? Maybe he does take it to the extreme just because he doesn’t give a shit.
Personally I don’t care how he acts with the media. He does what he has to do and gets on with it. I just think alot of people are reaching for a reason to hate the guy and it reminds me alot of some childish HS drama. Judge him on his performance on the field then get over it.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
I remember the media and entire NFL hated Elway when he first came to Denver. They even complained about the candy he gave at halloween, thought he should be giving hundred dollar bills to the kids or somthing. All because he didn’t want to play for the Irsays in Baltimore. Do any of you remember how he was called the spoiled brat of the NFL back then? All Jay has to do is continue to be great and it will go back on them. Of course when that happens they will all say how they called it from the beginning. GO BEARS
Yeah i beleive his show was on
and he was giving the final four teams musical genres and bands. he said “im not giving the bears one because theyre horrible.” I got soo angry i wanted to hurt him badly. But he was brown nosing brady and bb.
as was everybody else. let us not forgot the guys blowing on the Ravens, Saints and Falcons and look how that turned out
The “experts” are just angry that their predictions were off by miles
by frenchbears113 on Jan 18, 2011 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
That gets to work with Michelle Beadle.....

When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Jan 19, 2011 7:11 AM CST up reply actions
If I worked for ESPN
I would have them put in my contract that I will only work with her and Erin Andrews.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Jan 19, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
So should I put you down to be on the crew?
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Jan 19, 2011 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
Yup Cowherd has no love for Cutty or the Bears.
Might as well not even play the game, Bears should just forfeit. Also I think it was Monday night, heard Erik Kasilias(whoever that is) on the Gottlieb show say he actually doesn’t want the Bears in the superbowl because he doesn’t like watching Cutler play, and then he’d have to admit he was wrong about Jay. Seriously ESPN is paying these people….
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Jan 19, 2011 7:09 AM CST up reply actions
Psshhhhh
I just give that guy a big, fat “WHATEVAAAA!”, with the 4 finger “W” and everything.
Sports commentators these days…. Yeesh.
PS – is that guy friends with Reilly?
I remember last year
He picked the Bears over the Pack to get into the playoffs. When both teams were 4-3…
(Sing song)...Everybody Hates Rondo...
I don't put too much stock into what Cowherd says.
I remember he was on the bandwagon when we first acquire Cutler, now he’s a pure Cutler basher.
by Dominique Blanton on Jan 19, 2011 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Let us also not forget
For all the flak Cutler took for not getting to the playoffs, he won his first postseason start in year 5, it took Manning 6 seasons to win a playoff game and he went there 3 times before winning it. Brees also didn’t win a postseason game until his 6th season and his second playoff game.
And Rodgers won his first playoff game in year 6 and he only got their once before his first win and now suddenly everyone is gushing that he’s one of the best left and it’s like come on!
"I feel like the pieces are in place. But we have to execute...It's about execution. You have to execute. You have to have a scheme that facilitates the strengths of your players. If it doesn't, then it's a bad scheme. It's that simple. So we feel real good about the parts in place on offense."
"We feel very good about this football team. We felt very good about our football teams in the past and it's no different. You've got to go out there and you've got to do it."
-Jerry Angelo, Aug. 2, 2010
by Sam Householder on Jan 18, 2011 6:31 PM CST reply actions
Rodgers has the same amount of Post-Season wins as Rex Grossman
Minus one Super Bowl and NFC Championship. And it is amazing that in only Cutler’s second season we are only 1 game away from the Super Bowl
Erik Duerrwaecter
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 18, 2011 7:32 PM CST up reply actions
But... but.... Jay has terrible body language...
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Jan 19, 2011 7:12 AM CST up reply actions
the difference i think
is that everyone expected alot out of rodgers this year because of the experience in there offense…Cutler may not have the stats rodgers has but i think he has gone above and beyond what many people expected him to do this year. I honestly believe if we are able to control the tempo and TOP we win this one….superbowl bound..
Dolphins get a lot of good publicity for the drowning swimmers they push back to shore, but what you don’t hear about is the many people they push farther out to sea! Dolphins aren’t smart. They just like pushing things.
---Dwight Shrute
Absolutely agree 100%
Everyone expected Rodgers to have another great year – everyone had the Packers in the Super Bowl. But no one really expected Cutler and this offense to do anything. So, under the circumstances, Cutler has exceeded what anyone thought he was going to do.
Impossible to argue..
Rodgers is indeed the better QB(don’t hurt me!), but in the long run I think Cutler will wind up being just as good. Plus Rodgers stats have been inflated a bit over the past 2 seasons by their lack of unhurt RBs lol. Ryan Grant I’m looking at you!
Rodgers also
has the “best” recievers in the NFL, a better like than Cutler, and has been in his system since entering the NFL.
Cutler has a brand new OC, a young line that is just now starting to come into their own, and the youngest recieving corps in the NFL. Cutler is going to be better than Rodgers, and here in the next few years Cutler vs Rodgers is going to be like Manning vs Brady
Devin Hester. 14 Koff/Preturn TDs in 5 seasons.
by suckmyditka on Jan 19, 2011 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
the only thing that scares me...
Currently, isn’t Jay up for free agency as of 2013? I’m hoping he realizes that he has the most growth potential staying right where he is, we’re able to cut a deal to get him to stay, and we don’t lose him when he’s most likely just peaking.
A Bears fan, a Packers fan & a Seahawks fan are climbing a mountain and arguing about who loves his team more. The Seahawks fan insists that he is the most loyal. "This is for the Seahawks!" He yells, and jumps off the side of the mountain. Not to be outdone, the Bears fan is next to profess his love for his team. He yells, "this is for the Bears!" And pushes the Packers fan off the mountain...
Haha Jay won't be going anywhere
nothing to worry about there
Devin Hester. 14 Koff/Preturn TDs in 5 seasons.
Finally!!!!!
Finally someone else that noticed that the Bears really didn’t try their hardest to win the last game of the season. Sure they started their starters but their O and D were VANILLA!!
by bears fan why?2009 on Jan 19, 2011 3:15 AM CST reply actions
Let's hope that's the case
Because in order for us to have a chance to get to the Super Bowl, we’re obviously gonna have to do something offensively – and score more than 3 points.
That said, our defense played Rodgers and Co. pretty tough in that game – which they obviously had to win.
Yeo
I agree with every word. Cutler can make a few boneheaded decisions (decisions which are becoming much less frequent), but cut the guy some slack, he’s still getting his mojo with a much newer/newly adjusted OL – and if the game v Seahawks was any indication, he’s well on his way.
Excellent column!
Many valid points that the media tends to ignore in their rush to place labels.
I know it says a lot about the Bears position at QB, but I think it says a lot more about Jay Cutler that in only two years – in two different systems – he’s already broken or come close to breaking some team QB records.
Luckily, I think all the head coaching positions out there are filled? If not, I wouldn’t be surprised if a team takes a look at Martz- especially if the Bears win the SB with some type of offensive flair. And I wouldn’t be surprised if he left. But I hope he stays for at least another season or two. With some offensive line help and hopefully a big WR, this offensive could explode into greatness.
And you’re right. At this point in time, Rodgers is the better QB. He has had the advantage of being in the same system his whole career, but he’s also had the advantage of sitting the bench and watching Favre play. Rodgers is a much smarter QB than Favre, which is what makes it so horrible that he’s playing for GB. He has all of Favre’s talent and play-making ability, but none of Favre’s tendency to be stupid with the football.
Cutler is not far behind. No matter what people say about last season, it was last season. This season the guy has helped lead the team to the NFC Championship game and he’s still only getting better.
In short, in life, as in a foot-ball game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard; don't foul and don't shirk, but hit the line hard!" Theodore Roosevelt
Minutes after the Seahawks game
you hear the media still not giving Jay any credit for the win. An inferior team is the line used by the same media that said Seattle deserved to be in the playoffs. Like it or not, Cutler beat a playoff team. Now we hear “Which Jay will show up?” because some of the media wants to be right about bad Jay.
Aaron Rogers is a good QB, no doubt. The guy has won games with little or no running game this season. I hope Da Bears can play D like the Jets or perhaps Detroit earlier this season and keep him down and out.
I hope Chicago wins. But unless Jay has a monster game, there will still be critics. No matter what, he’s still WAY better than recent Bears QB’s.
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
Rec
This was an outstanding blog. You pretty much laid it down how it’s unfair to compare the two QB’s.
by Dominique Blanton on Jan 19, 2011 3:31 PM CST reply actions

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