Does Martz Need to Go?

and i mean the staff as well. Lovies contract is up next year and lets see what he can do w/ another year. Let JA try to see if he can put a draft together if his job depends on it. I see the only 2 people possible worth leaving could be Rod and Tice(I beleive Tice would be interviewed for a HC) But for next season let us see how it turns out. BEAR DOWN EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jay Cutler needs to stay in a system that has definately helped to improve his play. Having yet another offense to learn will only harm Cutler as well as everybody on this team.

That doesn’t seem like a good sign to me.

Its not a fair gauge for an offense.

Try points per game and time of possession, I like those much better, in general. We had the best field position in the NFL this year, so yards weren’t easy to come by.

Chicago was 21st in points (19th in 2009), but actually scored more (20.9 per game, as opposed to 20.4 per game) by one whole touchdown…Except we had 3 ST scores this year, as opposed to 1 last year, so we scored 1 less TD total this year compared to last. (No defensive TDs, proof we need some more speed and youth at the DB positions.)

I have concerns, concerns regarding our Offensive Line and the lack of physicality from the receiver position…

I am not 100% into Martz, but I don’t know that he was such a failure you have to can him after 1 year. I know Cutler could sure use the work on footwork, quick reads, and pocket passing, so maybe he becomes a better QB in a system that emphasizes some things he struggles with.

The Bears made it to the NFC Championship! Didn’t they? The Bears should be looking at additions and youth, not looking to rebuild. A couple lineman, some youth at linebacker, some help in the secondary, and a big bodied receiver should be the focus…

Stop switching systems! Nobody on offense will develop if we keep changing OCs.

but we also have to keep a couple things in mind:

One, Cutler actually helped the team interview Martz. They met up in a restaurant, and talked about offensive philosophy, and it went so well, they even started drawing up plays together into the wee hours of the night. A few days later, martz was offered a contract by the team.

Two, Cutler said a few weeks ago that he loved the offense, and hoped to play the rest of his career in it. He is a very, very intelligent QB, and undoubtedly the complexities and nuances are right up Cutler’s alley.

I would venture a guess that Mike Martz’s offense might work with one, maybe two QBs in the league… and my opinion is that Cutler is one of them. We’ve got a couple good WRs that fit Martz’s mold (speedsters), we’ve got a couple good TEs, and a couple good RBs. Once we get the OL addressed, even if we can simply put together an average OL, then we are suddenly in very good shape.

Sure, it’d be sexy to add a big target WR, but just give the guy some protection, and let this system keep getting rolled out and digested by everyone, and I think we’d be in good shape offensively.

Minimum, give Martz another year. See where he and Tice can take us offensively next year.

Continuity is sorely needed. Period.

I’m with you on that end around call. But I’m also pretty sure we’d all be calling Martz a genius if it worked.

O-line fix, and we will be fineeeeeee

In some ways, they are kindred souls, as far as the bears go.. Sunk costs, big bets already laid down, a commitment to a direction that will cost too much to shift out of. It’s not the worst news in the world, or at least I hope not, because both have very high talent levels at their respective jobs. It’s just that, in order to really determine if it was a good idea to hire Martz, we will be spending Jay Cutler’s prime finding out and organizing the rest of the team around a very specific offensive strategy. I remember Martz wasn’t the first, or even the second or third choice for the bears, but he’s our guy, and Cutler’s guy, now. We can only hope that this year’s dung sprouts tulips in 2011.

Martz was on the Coaching staff that drafted
Tory Holt
Orlando Pace

Sooooooo yeah

First year in a complex offense. Martz’s offense is not a one year install. If that was what was expected, then he was set up for failure from the start.

Cutler has been through 3 systems in 3 years. 4 in 4 years doesn’t sound like a good idea.

And the offense made progress through the year.

Rash choices are never prudent.

Fix the O line and it will get better. Route running and Timing will improve between Cutler and recievers/TE’s. Maybe everyone could learn the playbook and Cutler could change the play if needed.

You guys need to keep him. My reasoning, even though his offense may be complex, it’s hard to learn a new offense in just one year. In year 2 you will start to notice the difference once you get a year under your belt.

Focus on Cutler’s Footwork, mechanics, and tendancy to throw off the back foot…this will create a more consistent Cutler…and with another year of the Martzfense under his belt, it could be scary good in 2011!!!!

2010 Bear QB’s were sacked 21 more times than in 2009 but turned the ball over 6 fewer times. I think Martz has Jay making better decisions and we can expect continued improvement next year. Improve the OL and add a good WR and this offense will jump up the stats sheet. Not only will the numbers look better but they will score more points and hold the ball longer each game which will help the defense. Look at the Raiders, they change coaches every other year and how is that working out for them?

as long as they figure out that Forte is what makes this team and not Jay Cutler or the midget WR crew. If I never see a HB pass or an end around on third down in the fourth quarter in a playoff game again, that would be great too.

I’m tired of the excuses people are making for him about having an O-Line that couldn’t pass block or an inaccurate QB or height-challenged WRs. We know this. So it shouldn’t have taken him half a season and his “star” QB getting his butt kicked to know this and make the proper adjustments.

Fine, he has Jay Cutler’s arm and wants to use it… I get that. Doesn’t really explain Cutler leaving the game and calling three straight passes on Todd Collins’ first possession when you’re still only down 2 scores. Next possession, Forte gets an 8 yard run and Martz still wouldn’t let Forte try to pick up a 3rd-and-2. And the WR end around was the worst big game play call I’ve ever witnessed.

If they keep him on, fine… but this team would have won more games with a lesser name that will make it more about your team winning games than proving he’s some kind of genius. He’s not quite at Milton Bradley level, but he’s just one of those guys that I’ve never wanted to see win, and it’s hard to adjust that just because he’s now coaching for my team.

big kid fullback bears re- signed him like taylor but hes just too much like forte.. need a power back to compliment forte but with his contract taylor os going anywhere..

needs ? o line… big go to guy reciever.. ball hawk safety