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Thoughts From NFL Week 17: Chicago Bears and Beyond

The 2010 regular season is in the books, and I can honestly say I wasn't surprised by a lot, but a few things did catch me by surprise.  I thought the 49ers would run away with the NFC West, I thought the Vikings would be much better than they were, and I never saw the Chiefs jumping to the top of the AFC West.

Of the individual performances that surprised me, I thought Chris Johnson would be closer to 2000 yards, Arian Foster blew up opening day and kept rolling all year long, and Brandon Lloyd Pro Bowler...  seriously?

After the jump I'll give my usual thoughts, but I'll also hit on my predictions for the end of season awards.

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1)  The Packers managed to slip by the Bears 10-3 in a game that meant absolutely everything to Green Bay, and absolutely nothing to Chicago.  The Packers faced a win or else scenario and all their offense could muster was 10 points?  To say I was surprised by the outcome would be an understatement.  I honestly expected a huge game by Aaron Rodgers.

2)  AFC playoff teams have to be disappointed the Colts made it to the postseason.  That team is chock full of playoff experience, and I would never bet against Peyton Manning.

3)  With their 4th straight win to finish the season the Lions and their fans have to be excited for the future.

4)  Speaking of young exciting teams, the Buccaneers will give teams fits in 2011.  Josh Freeman and that offense is the real deal.

5)  Browns head coach Eric Mangini was canned, but I think he deserved to stay.  It's impossible to win in the NFL without a quarterback, and he's had a rookie, a retread, and  a career backup start games for him this season.  Unless Mike Holmgren is stepping down to take over, I don't see the point.

6)  Miami head coach Tony Sparano is another guy I think deserves one more year.

7)  Are the Redskins really going to go into the 2011 season with Rex Grossman as their QB?

8)  The Seattle Seahawks... hip hip hooray...

9)  I know Tim Tebow still has a long way to go, but there's an excitement he brings to every game he's in.  I just hope the media doesn't latch onto him to fill some Favre void.

10)  And speaking of Favre, anyone think he'll be back next year?

 

MVP - Who else but Tom Brady?  If you're a stat guy, he has those, if you're an intangible guy, well he has that covered too.  Michael Vick had an amazing season, but you take him away from the Eagles and I think they still have enough weapons offensively to be OK, but Brady is the Patriots offense.  I think Tom Brady could throw passes to Kev and Dane and still put up a 100 rating.

Offensive Player of the Year - Arian Foster had over 1,600 yards rushing and caught 66 passes for over 600 yards for the Texans.  And his combined 18 rushing and receiving touchdowns led the NFL.  Philip Rivers and Micheal Vick were a close two three.

Defensive Player of the Year - Julius Peppers had an impact that didn't always show up on the stat sheet.  I know I'm biased from watching his every snap this season, but he did so many different things on the field, I just can't make an argument against him.

Coach of the Year - This award usually goes to the coach of a team that comes out of left field to have some success, and Todd Haley of the Chiefs fits that bill.  No one expected them to have a winning record, let alone win the AFC West.  I would not be surprised to see Lovie Smith get some votes for this award.

Comeback Player of the Year - I though Michael Vick had an incredible season, but what did he comeback from?  The Eagles bench?  Had Vick done this last year, after his time in prison, I'd say he could win this award.  But Brian Urlacher not only came back after missing just about all of the 2009 season, but he returned to the Pro Bowl after a few years removed from that level. 

Offensive Rookie of the Year - This award could go to one of two Buccaneers, but LeGarrette Blount rushed for over a thousand yards with just 7 starts. 

Defensive Rookie of the Year - Ndamukong Suh had a dominate year from the defensive tackle position.  As a Bears fan, he scares me.

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1 – No comment

2 – But the jets are the best team in the AFC. Just ask rex ryan and his happy feet

3 – 4 straight wins by the lions. Honestly never thought I would see the day. Good for them and their fans. Finally something to look forward to

4 – Gotta admit while the bucs looked good I am still not completely sold on them given their record but they do look good. Pretty tough division for them as well

5 – Seen rumors that marty morneweg is up for the cle and san fran jobs. Also seen/heard that fisher, cable, sparano, and del rio could also be gone when its said and done

6 – See above

7 – From the looks of it yes, yes they are. But think shanny will draft his next elway in 11

8 – Love 7 – 9 in the playoffs. Awesome

9 – When I see people talk about tebow its almost always getting slammed so…..denver fans are all in with him now. Though a few ortonites are still clinging to hope

10 – No. Just NO way I see it
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MVP – tom brady no doubt. eagles loss to the vikings sealed that IMO

OPotY – Think rivers gets it personally

DPotY – Just listening to the Score made me chuckle. Heard a couple of fans upset that Peppers sucks cause he only has 8 sacks and should not be in the pro bowl. Stealing from the Bears. Pretty awesome stuff. IMO there is so much hype for clay matthews I can not see how he doesnt win it

CotY – Can see haley winning it but I think belichick walks away with it

ComebackPotY – No doubt vick wins it but I am not sure how he is even up for the award given that he was healthy last season but just didnt play but eh whatever. Hype is just so strong for vick to win some award I think that its this one he ends up with

ORotY – IMO no way sam bradford runs away with this one

DRotY – suh runs away with this one no doubt

I want history to erase his every achievement.....I want him to feel the disgust in the bronco fans eyes when they look on him in shame....

- Jay Cutler on josh mcdaniels firing

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2011 11:36 AM CST reply actions  

Vick and CBPOY

That Vick is even in consideration for comeback player of the year is a perversion of the intent of that award. I’m fairly sure that the framers of the award didn’t have time in a Federal Prison as one of the things a player should be rewarded for coming back from. Urlacher may not win, but he certainly epitomizes the intent and the spirit of the award.

"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott

by Maelvampyre on Jan 3, 2011 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm sure he'll chime in at some point but several weeks ago I said something similar

and T-Train pointed out several players in the last decade who have won the award even though they weren’t injured or out of the league the year before. The prison thing aside, and that was two years ago, Vick did play only as a backup last year and is an MVP candidate this year.

Personally, I agree that Urlacher is more deserving under the circumstances but with all the media hype, I think Vick is a lock.

by BearFan611 on Jan 3, 2011 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

When Brady won the award

he was injured the previous season week 1… so there is precedent for an Urlacher win

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 3, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

CBPOY
The NFL Comeback Player of the Year Award has been given out after every season since 1972 (except for 1985) by Pro Football Weekly. The player named Comeback Player of the Year shows perseverance in overcoming adversity, in the form of not being in the NFL the previous year, a severe injury, or simply poor performance. Beginning in 1992 the Pro Football Writers of America and Pro Football Weekly combined for their awards, including the comeback player of the year, and it continues to this day.

that was Wiki, saw the same thing in some ESPN articles…

Its isn’t always “injury”, though usually it is. Vick will likely get it this year to “make up” for him not getting MVP or OPOY

I love an Urlacher selection here too though…

by Brendan Hess on Jan 3, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

It usually goes to someone in Urlacher's situation, though it occasionally......

goes to someone in other situations, like Chad Pennington. Actually, Pennington has won the awards for coming back from injury once and for coming back from sucking the other time.

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 3, 2011 10:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I got yur back! lol

in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 4, 2011 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Is it normally given to convicted criminals ?

How about Best Rape-charge Avoidance award ? That would be a good one. Or Best Spousal Battery of the year …

by Wally&Mac on Jan 4, 2011 3:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Aaron Rodgers

I was definitely surprised by how well the Bears were able to keep Aaron Rodgers in check. I had actually expected a bit more from both QB’s in this one. I expect that the Packers will beat the Eagles next week. They had a hard time with Vick in week one but I imagine with time to prepare for him as the guy they will have it figured out.

---AC 00 00 00 - Believe

by mjk83 on Jan 3, 2011 11:36 AM CST reply actions  

Eagles are too immature, this team falls apart quickly

The Giants win was a fluke, the Eagles youth is a detriment at the moment. Its easy to take those young stars out of the game as the Bears showed a few weeks ago. GB houses them something like 31-17. Give this Eagles team a few years, then they will be deadly.

White Sox fans need not apply.

by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 3, 2011 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Packers probably...

Vick was destroyed by DB blitzes, the Packers love DB blitzes.

It works for the same reason it works against us. Cutler and Vick both trust their mobility and hold the ball longer than they should. They are quick enough to escape D-Linemen, and usually LBs, but not a CB who is used to chasing down fast players…

Not to mention the Eagles (like the Bears) really struggle with “speed rushes” and will continue to have a hard time trying to pick up a DB with a lineman…Part of the problem with Philly going with a “Big, Mauler” O line concept.

by Brendan Hess on Jan 3, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Vick was destroyed by DB blitzes, the Packers Dom Capers loves DB blitzes.

Staple of Dick LeBeau’s Zone Blitz scheme. What Dom Capers brings though is a complete irreverence for traditional formations. 1-3-7 formations (which i think we saw like a half dozen times…)… and other nonsensical defensive formations that lead to a few things: pressure and sacks.

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Jan 3, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind seeing some of that odd combo stuff with our D

Imagine, Izzy at Tackle, with Urlacher, Melton, Peppers, Pino, Briggs, and Hitman standing, some blitzing, some dropping into coverage with Tillman, Jennings, Manning and Wright in the back…I’d love that once or twice a game

"Word of advice, don’t join, Bears fans are crazy."--- D-Jackfan10

by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2011 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Essentially we 'do' that...

only not as literally though. only instead of having everyone standing, everyone is crouched near the line and pop in and out of the gaps… both ways though of ‘confusion’ have their merits and both require different techniques. One of the things that 3-4 backers though are generally better at, and what makes them more suited for that is hand-work and being able to shed blockers effectively. Taking away leverage (which is what the ‘standing’ package does), requires immense technique prowess that our LB’s don’t have and trades it in for ‘confusion’.

really though, we are used to watching our defence overload gaps on the line, but don’t fully realize how confusing it can be on its own… it’s really our version of ‘where is the fire zone coming from’.

I also can’t count, it was a 1-5-5 not 1-3-7.

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Jan 3, 2011 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Good points.

But it still doesn’t wash over the fact that our O-line sucks.

by Wally&Mac on Jan 4, 2011 3:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Packers were supposed to blow out the Bears

So much for that!

I have to think if these two teams meet in the championship, and the Bears put forth the same effort and passion, they’ll win at home.

The Seadogs looked pretty good last night. I think they’ll put up a fight versus the Saints. They’re really tough at home.

Tebow has God on his side; so naturally, he’ll suceed at anything in life. My goodness is his windup long!

Bradford deserves it more cause he plays the most difficult position in sports.

I agree with on Urlacher, but not with Peppers. Yes, he was schemed for, double-teamed relentless, but ultimately, stats matter. Cameron Wake or roid boy will get it.

"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.

by propheteer on Jan 3, 2011 11:42 AM CST reply actions  

agree with the propheteer re Peppers

He was good but not great. Not great enough to merit the award.

"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott

by Maelvampyre on Jan 3, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I could see Wake winning over Peppers

And I think Matthews could win, more on hype than anything. The only meaningful stat Matthews has over Peppers is sacks. Peppers has more ints, QB hits, QB pressures, forced fumbles, passes defended… and at best Matthews plays the run average. But that hair…

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 3, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Pep would be a lock if he had supermassive dreadlocks!

Matthews would cower in shame and insist that the award be given to Peppers.

"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott

by Maelvampyre on Jan 3, 2011 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, I didn't know that.

Very good to know, cause I was unlikely to look up those stats. Peppers for DPOY!

"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.

by propheteer on Jan 3, 2011 5:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Think most look at sack numbers and hype

to be honest….And every pre game show its always “OMG clay matthews iz tehgreatest evah” with hardly any mention of Peppers……Thats why I think matthews wins it…..

I want history to erase his every achievement.....I want him to feel the disgust in the bronco fans eyes when they look on him in shame....

- Jay Cutler on josh mcdaniels firing

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2011 10:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, it was close enough.

We’ll be at home. If our D plays lights out again, then surely we couldn’t be that bad on offense twice to the same team, right? At least we don’t have to face the Giants front four again …

by Wally&Mac on Jan 4, 2011 3:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Brandon Lloyd helped me win a fantasy football championship

I would’ve never thunk it.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jan 3, 2011 11:48 AM CST reply actions  

absolutely amazing

This guy blew chunks if I remember correctly. Guess he improved.

White Sox fans need not apply.

by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 3, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

He's always had ridiculous talent.

He was never exactly humble and had a big attitude problem. They hated him in Washington cause he spent more time trying to be a rapper than a wide receiver. In Chicago he put together a couple huge games and then got hurt and the rest of the players felt like he wasnt doing enough to get back on the field and they didn’t want him in the locker room with them anymore. But if you just watch him, he definitely has talent, he makes some of the most absurd catches and he often makes them look easy.

by lopey986 on Jan 3, 2011 1:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

hey...

Chunks is my dog.

by Ryan21 on Jan 3, 2011 3:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Well apparently Brandon Lloyd really likes your dog.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Jan 3, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Good thing you kept him

on your team or he would of told you to “frick” off……

I want history to erase his every achievement.....I want him to feel the disgust in the bronco fans eyes when they look on him in shame....

- Jay Cutler on josh mcdaniels firing

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm way better than Jerry Genius :)

I drafted Roddy White and Mike Wallace… then added Lloyd as a FA in week 3. I had three of the top 5 WRs in the NFL.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jan 3, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

An embarrassment of riches at WR!

"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.

by propheteer on Jan 3, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

congrats!

and I guarantee those words were never put together in the history of English…

Brandon Lloyd helped me win a fantasy football championship

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 3, 2011 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I was down by 1 point to my good friend with all games final

Except Broncos-Chargers.

I benched Philip Rivers, and added Tim Tebow to start. Tebow (27 points) scored a TD, and my winning points with less than 30 seconds left to play. Was awesome!

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jan 3, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

This Fantasy Football Championship Highlight

Brought to you by Miller Lite:)

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jan 3, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude

Go with Bud lite cause their commercials are way better.

"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.

by propheteer on Jan 3, 2011 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Good luck in the playoffs

Just back from Lambeau and there was a good contingent of bear fans. I believe I even heard a few “Let’s go Bears” chants a few times.

Your defense is top notch. Forte is a better back than anyone on the current Packer roster. Keeping Hester from having any returns was huge for the Packers.

Ton of respect to Lovie for playing his guys the whole game.

Not sure if I’d want Cutler to try and win a game for me.

Last thing..I caught a lot of grief for saying officiating was questionable..now I see it here..pot meet kettle..

Who would you like to see in the first playoff game? Eagles or Saints?

I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005

by White92 on Jan 3, 2011 11:52 AM CST reply actions  

Agreed on officiating, was bizarre what they were and werent calling

My Question is can the Packers handle Atlanta assuming the Eagles are a W? I have the Pack taking the Eagles and the Bears getting NO here in CHI. Which shapes up for a Bears vs. the winner of GB/ATL for the NFC championship. Any thoughts?

White Sox fans need not apply.

by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 3, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I was at Atlanta for the first ATL/Gb game..

I was sure it was going overtime..Packer special teams bit them in the arse again..

If they correct the special teams errors I think they certainly CAN beat the, but will they? I don’t think so.

The Packers have just been so inconsistent, I don’t think they can play at a very high level 4 weeks in a row.

I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005

by White92 on Jan 3, 2011 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I went back and watched it.

soo many missed calls for both teams.Either zebras were gonna let them play or they just sucked. I really thought that game was a good gam,e and the better ones of the week. I believe this game had classic written all over it.

by chiguy8506 on Jan 3, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Neither team scares me

If the game were in N.O., I’d be wary of the Saints offense, but at Soldier Field… not so much

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 3, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

In January mind u.

I wish i knew how the weather was up there though.

by chiguy8506 on Jan 3, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

NO is ready to lose this post season

Seattle doesnt have the chops to get it done but we will dispatch them in 2 weeks as a courtesy to the rest of the NFC.

White Sox fans need not apply.

by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 3, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Bring the Saints to Chicago again

They haven’t fared too well here in Dec/Jan

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jan 3, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Drew Brees and the Saints at Soldier Field

Dec 11, 2008: Bears 27-24 OT
Dec 30, 2007: Bears 33-25
January 21, 2007: Bears 39-14

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jan 3, 2011 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

The NFC championship game

was second only to the ‘86 championship game as far as personal favorite games I’ve been to. It was an utter dismantling of the Saints in the second half.

"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.

by propheteer on Jan 3, 2011 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Didnt harrass or assult any

saints fans while you were watching that game did you….

Man the uproar from saints fans after the 06 NFCCG I will NEVER EVER forget…..Sounded like they got raped…I still remember the stories that were posted like a family that allegedly went to the game. During the game Bears fans threw snow balls beer and food at them all game. Then after they were headed back but their kid was scared started crying and a Bears fan pushed the kid down kicked him and laughed. They went to the cops the cops laughed at them and told them to get lost losers……And that was just one “story”…..

I want history to erase his every achievement.....I want him to feel the disgust in the bronco fans eyes when they look on him in shame....

- Jay Cutler on josh mcdaniels firing

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2011 10:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Not my style

I’ll yell my head off when there’s trash talk going back and forth, but never would I commit despicable acts like that. Funny thing is, I never saw or heard anything resembling that. Where did you hear the story about the kid?

"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.

by propheteer on Jan 3, 2011 11:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I've heard stories like that as well,

but at the couple games that I’ve been to, I’ve never seen anything like that at all. I was even at a game with a guy in an opposing jersey, and there were no problems.

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Jan 4, 2011 12:36 AM CST up reply actions  

I was at the Pats game

There were two big groups of Pattsie fans sitting next to us, and they were nice as can be. I’ve never had a problem at all with opposing teams’ fans.

With that said, I just saw the road games for the Bears next year. Bears at Broncos….I can’t wait!

"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.

by propheteer on Jan 4, 2011 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

I think they should be at Tampa next year.

At least I hope I figured it right…

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Jan 5, 2011 5:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes sir you are right.

When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow

by Ditkavsworld on Jan 5, 2011 6:47 AM CST up reply actions  

I will be there for sure.

Hopefully it’s a late-season game. That stadium is like a goddamn oven, even when it’s not that hot out.

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Jan 8, 2011 11:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Stories I seen

were posted at various saints forums…..They even started a petition to for an apology from the city…..

I want history to erase his every achievement.....I want him to feel the disgust in the bronco fans eyes when they look on him in shame....

- Jay Cutler on josh mcdaniels firing

by CloudyFuture on Jan 5, 2011 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Packers worry me the most...

I have to much family in NOLA to wanna hear about 4 ever if they beat us. Vick is overrated and I wanna see him again. ATL is tough but I think a dome favors us.

by Ryan21 on Jan 3, 2011 3:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Saints

They don’t particularily play well in adverse weather, and haven’t beat the Bears the past three times (maybe more?).

"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.

by propheteer on Jan 3, 2011 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I can execute the routes just fine

but he will have gotten sacked long before I make it to the destination.

If I did what I love for a living, what would I do in my free time?

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by Kev H on Jan 3, 2011 12:08 PM CST reply actions  

But if you had Ditka blocking back at the line......

you could run the routes twice with your feet in a potato sack and still make the catch.

White Sox fans need not apply.

by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 3, 2011 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

If Brady had Ditka on his team

he would throw every pass his way… or else…

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 3, 2011 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

except the rules won't let you blow up a QB the way they let Butkus and others..

..not in this day and age of “wusses” – quote from Rendell

"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott

by Maelvampyre on Jan 3, 2011 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Butkus would take the penalty flag....

And shove it in the officials face, just like he used to do with the football on turnovers, until the Ref ate it announced “no foul on the play” while trying to get off the field to change his pants before his urine freezes.

Butkus would then nail the QB up on the wall next to all his other kills, and line up for the next snap. No one would complain, for fear of ending up on the wall of Butkus as well.

by Brendan Hess on Jan 3, 2011 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Well I was a little disheartened to see how our O-Line "performed" against the Pack

However Matt Forte still had a great game against a tough defense and Cutler did everything he could to try to win. This O-Line though has lost alot of respect, especially Webb. Honestly I believe they ought to do what my high school coach did and have something called a “challenge week” for this O-Line. Its when EVERY O-Lineman gets a crack into the starting line-up, where only THE best five get in. I had alot of hope for the O-Line especially after the way they performed against the Vikings and Jets, but when the blitz came on they simply looked overpowered and lazy. I still have alot of confidence in this offense as a whole and I believe they will rebound after having a good week off, but Tice has to motivate and perhaps even make some changes to ensure that both Cutler and Forte can continue to have success.

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2011 12:51 PM CST reply actions  

Well part of the deal was Martz didn't want to show alot of the playbook

so alot of calls that would have exploited the Packers blitz wasn’t used. I think this made the Oline appear to be regressing when it was simply a case of the offense calling straight 7 step drop vanilla passes. The Oline has problems, but we can mitigate that weakness with good play calling as seen this season. I expect Martz to roll out the big guns come two weeks, I dont see this loss as anything to worry about.

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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 3, 2011 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I understand that theory

And that could be what happened, I just dont like seeing drop-off performances by an offense that we all know can score alot of points. The O-Line still should have played better, period, as it was a chance to improve upon themselves against a tough defense.

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2011 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I know what vanilla looks like

and it’s not seven step drops. If Martz really wanted to go vanilla, he should’ve called a Ron Turner gameplan – Forte runs on 1st and 2nd down, quick out pass on 3rd down, punt. No need to expose your QB to a barrage of blitzes from a hungry Packers D; no need to put your still-growing o-line under that kind of pressure, no need to risk unnecessary injury in a meaningless game. Shoot, if they’d stuck with their 50/50 pass-run ratio, it’s likely they would have won the game.

by NorthSideBearsFan on Jan 3, 2011 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree that they left the run in the second half and that was a mistake

no argument there, as it was working. As far as Cutler getting hit yesterday, probably could have done without it for sure but Lovie wanted to win this one. His aborted Timeout in the third probably cost them an overtime trip as I think we would have scored a TD on that drive. Anyway this offense is hit or miss any yesterday was a miss. Hopefully this wont repeat itselft in the nearterm.

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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 3, 2011 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Rather than Vanilla

I think it was the opposite.

Rather than running what we knew had been working, he dusted off all the crap we haven’t been able to use BECAUSE the line sucks, and the return was what it was the last time, too….6 sacks, 2 picks, no production.

I guess we just wanted to see if the line could hold up yet, and the answer is not really. Back to slants, curls, and Forte.

by Brendan Hess on Jan 3, 2011 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

thats is what

i had been leaning toward. It makes more sense that we go into the “meaningless” game trying to see what the o-line/WR’s can handle (given our group) so he can know what to call in the PO vs trying to keep other teams from seeing our playbook. everyone knows our playbook, like you said, slants, curls, and forte. At least it makes more sense to me after seeing all the 5-7 step drops.
Although i would imagine that they were hoping it worked so that other teams would know we could do more..

by GtM on Jan 3, 2011 10:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, because getting Jay nocked on his ass and nearly killed every play

means nothing to Martz. NO SARCASM WHAT SO EVER!!! I’m being 100% serious. I think it means nothing to Martz. Look at all his 7 step drop crap in obvious passing situations. I think Martz doesn’t give 2 shakes of a lamb’s tail about his QB’s protection.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Jan 3, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I blame the receiver group more than the Oline

This receiver group failed to show up yesterday, this group gets lost behind good secondaries and the Packers DBs are good. Knox and Hester are going to have to start fighting for these 50% balls, I was dissapointed with the effort from everyone but oddly Rashied Davis. We missed Earl Bennett and those sure hands.

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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 3, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Olsen made some plays, too

I resisted calls for a TO-type, go-up-and-get-it, #1 receiver for most of the season, but know I realize how important that type of player is for physical DB’s like the Packers have. I like Knox and Hester, but we need a big body to make the tough catches.

by NorthSideBearsFan on Jan 3, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

He played all out

And about Bennett they not only missed his hands but his toughness and his route running.

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with you for the most part but I think Cutler is getting off too easy...

aside from the 2 picks, he made some very poor decisions all day long. There were at least 3 sacks that were his fault for not throwing the ball away after holding onto it for a long time. He also ran out of bounds for about a half yard gain and took another hit when he should have just thrown the ball away. He needs to get better at decision making.

by BearFan611 on Jan 3, 2011 1:39 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

^ This.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.

by Just Dave on Jan 3, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup, toss it out of bounds and go to 2nd or 3rd down

Jay needs to spend a few days just practicing the motion of throwing out of bounds when the protection breaks down. He doesn try to do too much alot and that hurts us.

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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 3, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Yea he did make a few poor decisions

However thats what happens when your O-Line fails to protect and to give him time CONSISTANTLY. But I will agree that Cutler needs to spend his time wisely going into the playoffs, as there is no second chance at redemption.

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2011 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Cutler not throwing the ball away

is my #1 problem with him

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 3, 2011 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought the same thing

offense was very vanilla

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 3, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Leopards don't change their spots.

When did peopl get the impression we had an offensive line? When we played a bunch of teams that had no pass rush and we could run outside all day long and ignore the fact that we could never run it up the middle at any point during the game?

by Wally&Mac on Jan 4, 2011 4:00 AM CST up reply actions  

#1

That the Bears almost won this game is a great testament and motivation boost to the playoffs. As you said, Wilt, the Bears played very well for a team with little motivational reason to play as hard as they did. That speaks volumes. The Packers almost lost this game that theh HAD to have. Go BEARS!

"I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott

by Maelvampyre on Jan 3, 2011 1:02 PM CST reply actions  

I was happy that the Bears played all out

The defense played excellent, with great heart. I was disappointed by the loss but I’m confident that these Bears are only one offensive hot streak away from making a Super Bowl run!

by NorthSideBearsFan on Jan 3, 2011 1:33 PM CST reply actions  

I'm Happy That The Bears Defense Is Back

holding the overrated Fudgies to 10 points is pretty good and with the extra week of rest I am confident that we can reach the NFC title game. I got a bit worried over the last few games that the D was regressing again (seems to be a chronic regress at the end of every season) but now my fears have been put to rest.

by Gaak on Jan 3, 2011 2:02 PM CST reply actions  

As a Dolphins fan

I have to disagree with #6. The team quit on him at the end of the year and his continued support of Dann Henning at OC I think shows he doesn’t have what it takes to be a winning head coach….also going 1-7 at home doesn’t help his case either.

by cubman987 on Jan 3, 2011 2:59 PM CST reply actions  

I just think teams fire their head coaches too quickly...

But you’re probably right, time to move on

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 3, 2011 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

It's hard...

I agree with you that way to often teams (and fans) want to fire coaches WAY too quickly. Hell, a lot of ‘Skins fans are calling for Shanny’s head after one season (of course, the Redskins have been through more coaches in the last decade than even Oakland or Detroit. That says someting about the team……)

On the other hand, some coaches need a good firing, and heading them off early rather than later might not be such a bad thing. But how do you determine if a coach has had enough time?

It’s a rough situation.

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 5, 2011 1:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I think Cable got a raw deal

To me, the Raiders seemed to play hard, and that’s step 1 in building a winner

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 6, 2011 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

My thoughts

1) No value game for DA BEARS, I think the Offense was playing very vanilla to not give anything up, the Defense on the other hand was great, but they play similarly every week so they didn’t give much away

2) The Colts are not much without Manning, more so than any other team, but with him, they always have a shot

3) I’m not buying into the lions, I’m never going to buy the Lions, they’re the lions

4) Agreed, although they are beatable and I still want to see another year of success

5) One more year would not have been bad, but I don’t think the fans in Cleveland will be outraged

6) Agreed

7) GROSSMAN! It would be fun to see him play

8) I actually wanted the Seahawks to win, just to see a team with a losing record in the playoffs

9) Hopefully he doesn’t become the next Favre, he seems like a nice guy, hopefully he doesn’t like flippity flopping like Favre, but I may start to hate him if the media makes him the next Favre

10) Obviously, I mean did he not have an MVP type season?

 

MVP – Brady no doubt, even though I think Belichick has a lot to do with his success

Offensive Player of the Year – Can’t say I disagree

Defensive Player of the Year – Hopefully, but I know media loves steroid boy and he’ll probably get it, along with the other 10 guys on the Packers that are or were supposed to be Pro-Bowlers

Coach of the Year – I would like for it to be given to a member of DA BEARS but Bellichick or Haley are likely options

Comeback Player of the Year – Should be given to Lacher, but Vick has to much hype behind him

Offensive Rookie of the Year – Over 1000 yards in 7 starts? Blount should get it but I could also see an argument for Bradford.

Defensive Rookie of the Year – No doubt it’s going to be Suh

by DaHamsta on Jan 3, 2011 3:13 PM CST reply actions  

Bradford will get it

a QB is a more popular choice… But Blount was very effective this year

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 3, 2011 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

It would be sad if Bradford did get OROY

as much as I like the guy and his potential, legarrette blount was really a BEAST
If nothing else, he should get the award for hurdler of the year…

by BOBdaBEAR on Jan 3, 2011 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

That play was insane.

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Jan 4, 2011 12:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Blount ran for more than 1000 yards in just 7 games

He is not only a player that deserves the Offensive Rookie of the Year award, but he is by far the best young pure RB in the league.

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2011 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I hate the Boers n Bernstien show...

I am so glad Lovie played the starters for us “meatheads” that hate the Packers and wanted to knock em out. Maybe even get some momentum (even tho they say it don’t exist and neither does being “pumped up” do anything and if u think it does ur an idiot) going into the playoffs. We need confidence and our defense played lights out. Lovie stood his ground and kept Cutler in. Good for him. He could have gotten hurt on any play. Play # 1 or #15 or # 36. Once he plays the first play, I think u gotta leave him in. Teams that play with fear are not going to win. Look at the Pats. I enjoyed the game even tho we lost. Good to see the defense step up. I hate the Lovie bashin today. I really believe that we will be victorious this post season. Lovie and the staff are playing all in this season and I think that’s why we are where we are. F— the B n B show and Bear Down baby! Super Bowl! Super Bears!

by Ryan21 on Jan 3, 2011 4:03 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

nice!

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 3, 2011 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Hats off to Lovie

He did what he said. He played all men, all game and no matter what the bears had to gain.

ITS THE EFFING PACKERS!…THE PACKERS!…A win can knock them out of the playoffs and Lovie did everything in his power to beat them, I applaud Lovie for taking his best swing at Green Bay and it was a hell of a game to watch because it was a classic Chess match.

People think the Packers are dangerous? Good for them, If they were that dangerous then they wouldnt have to play to get in and should have won the divison.

This Bears team is dangerous Peppers didnt have a great day and the secondary had some lapses and yet Mr. Rodgers only scored 10 poinst?!?!?! Even playing in his own neighborhood? Cutler will bounce back, he is the ultimate competitor, How do you think he feels losing to the golden boy?

Good Job Lovie- You showed the league your “not afriad for players to get hurt” and looks like once again we dont have injuries that shouldnt heal by our first game. This game gives momentum to the Bears and i beleive this team’s best will shine in Janruary…..when he let the Caged animal known as Greg Olsen loose on the NFL.

Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.

by Bear Lovin 21 on Jan 3, 2011 4:46 PM CST reply actions  

G

REG !

by Ryan21 on Jan 3, 2011 5:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

My award picks

MVP – Tom Brady he does it again and again with no big names hell he makes anybody look like a stud.

Offensive Player of the Year – Philip Rivers, if they made the playoffs he would be my MVP pick for the same reason i picked Brady. All year he was throwing to guys the team signed at half time and didnt complain and still put up gaughty numbers, take Rivers out of San Diego they dont win 3 games.

My next two picks may shock people.

Defensive Player of the Year – Brian Urlacher- played some of the best football i have ever seen him play. His presence made everyone better and the way he was flying around and making plays was a thing of beauty. Yes peppers was amazing but Urlacher’s season to me is defined by week 3, time winding down and Rodgers driving Urlacher flys over to punch the ball out and give his offense the chance to win the game. He has alot left in the tank and thats bad news……….for the NFL.

Comeback Player of the Year – Brian Urlacher, i dont care what people say about Vick he was on the bench last year and didnt come back from a season ending injury. Vick may still get it and i have nothing against him. But Urlachers important to this whole team is evident by their record this year, he is the heart, the soul, the brain and the spirit of the Bears of the last decade and is now healthy after a season ending injury and headed to his 7th probowl.
Honorable mention- Matt Cassel an amazing year coming off a mediocre he put up some impressive numbers and Cassell to Bowe is becoming a combination that people need to respect.

Coach of the Year – Todd Haley- another guy who had no confidence from anyone outside the organization. He also started out 3-0 and no one gave him any chance to do anything and he proved them all wrong. congrats Mr. Haley much respec

Offensive Rookie of the Year – Bradford minus Jackson he nothing. or no one to throw to. Clayton and Avery were out early and he was throwing to the guys that San Diego didnt sign and did a great job leading his team from the worst record in football to one game within his first season. I am happy that Steven Jackson finally has a sidekick, i love that guys heart and guts. He and Bradford will begin to cause problems.

Defensive Rookie of the Year – Ndamukong Suh scares the feces out of me. In my opinion he is the best defensive tackle in the leauge the last defensive tackle i saw that could rush the qb and cause havoc was this kid named Tommie Harris (god do i miss you).

Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.

by Bear Lovin 21 on Jan 3, 2011 4:59 PM CST reply actions  

i wish we had a boy named

Suh. Best song ever and to be playing it at Soldier field would be the bees knees.

by Ryan21 on Jan 3, 2011 5:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Comeback Player of the Year

Nobody embodies the award more than Mike Williams, WR Seattle. The guy was out of the league for two years to come back to be a force at WR for the Seahawks and today got a 3-year contract. Yes, Vick was in prison, but this wasn’t his first year back.

Urlacher is a worthy candidate as well since he lost all last year due to injury and came back to be a Pro Bowl starter and deserve it. But Williams is the best story with none of the controversy or negatives of rewarding Vick.

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by jameslcrockett on Jan 3, 2011 6:58 PM CST reply actions  

Williams would be a solid pick as well

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 3, 2011 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Farrrrrve...

I know logically I and anyone else would say he won’t be back due to all the injuries this year, but I’m just not going to say anything else til the next season starts. Because I’ve said he won’t 4 times now..lol.

by Pretender85 on Jan 3, 2011 7:51 PM CST reply actions  

The Bucs offense is gonna be scary, but there defense needs some real work.

Freeman has impressed the hell out of me. I thought he was a terrible pick last year, and I thought he would cost Morris his job, at the very least. What that offense has managed this year is incredible. I think people forget, that team is starting a second year QB, an undrafted Rookie RB, and two Rookie WR’s. To have that much success with that much youth at the skill positions is ridiculous.
I agree the OROY should go to Blounte, but it will go to Bradford. There’s too much love for QB’s, and too many exaggerated comparisons being made for him to not get it. I’m already tired of hearing how he’s the next Manning/Brady/Elway/Montana.

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by JerBear50 on Jan 4, 2011 12:55 AM CST reply actions  

OPOY and the MVP have went to the same player about half of the time.

The other half of the time, it doesn’t. Players have to have a amazing year, usually to get both. Marshall Faulk in ’00, Peyton mannning in ’04, Shaun Alexander in ’05, Ladainlian Tomlinson in ’06 and Brady in ’07 all fit that bill with record breaking seasons. The other 5 years of the past decade have had a different MVP than OPOY. A defensive player has not won the MVP award since Lawrence Taylor in ’86.

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 4, 2011 4:07 AM CST up reply actions  

what T-Train said...

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 4, 2011 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm hoping to see.....

G-Reg lining up outside as a receiver more in the playoffs. With his size and speed, he can make up for the lack of a big physical receiver, and he makes for a hell of a target on those deep crossing routes.

I’m also hoping to see a lot more of Matt Forte than we saw this week, though I think he was just out there to get his thousamnd. I think he’s a known quantity and Martz was looking at some other things.

I really go tthe feeling that Martz used this game the way you use the third Preseason game. We’d like to win, but we have other things we’re trying to determine that are more important. If we win in the process, that’s great, too.

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 4, 2011 4:00 AM CST reply actions  

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