Fantasy Football: Week 7 Pickups
Wow was that fun!! Any time the Bears decide to put on a show like that, it makes for a good week. Anything that I would say up here would merely be a rehash of everything everybody else has already said. Forte is a beast. Cutty is a world-class QB. Lance Louis looks legit. Same with Stephen Paea. The Wright Conte secondary might have some legs. And the Martzfense is dead. All good things, and all of this is relevant to our little game of numbers. D&D for jocks, if you will. I'm going to take a look at some guys I'm targeting in a few of my leagues that might or might not be available in your leagues.
Editor Note: Promoted to the front page in lieu of the Fantasy Q&A, so drop your questions in the comment thread and hopefully someone will give you some great advice.
Before we do all that fun, though, a minor disclaimer. I'm not a Fantasy expert. I've run the gauntlet from 0-for the season to undefeated champion, and everything in between. I've played in almost every type of Fantasy Football league except for Auction drafts and Franchise leagues. My favorite leagues right now are the two 2QB starter leagues, one of which I'm the defending champion. I'm also a big fan of scoring odd things, like return yardage for offensive players, and TFLs and 3-and-outs for Defenses. So some of my rankings might be skewed slightly (or majorly) by some of my experiences. Take them with a grain of salt.
Also, look back at my Week 6 recommendations. I'm going to try to not repeat a name on that list, and there's probably some good ones to be had there.
Matt Cassel, QB, KC - Don't look now, but the New England castoff has put together three quality starts in a row. This past week without his best receiver or running back on the field. Keep in mind that he doesn't have much of a supporting cast. But he's got a soft schedule coming off a Bye week. He's a QB2, any way you slice it. But he could be available in a few leagues after a dreadful performance against Detroit in week 2.
Christian Ponder, QB, Min - This has to happen at some point. McNabb is not a part of this team's future, and Webb is decidedly average. They drafted him top 15 overall to be their QB for the next decade. It's time for them to see whether he can get it done. He inherets Adrian Peterson, who will make any rookie transition much, much easier. And he's got Percy Harvin whenever he's healthy as a deep threat. This is not a team without weapons. They just don't have anybody to get the ball to those weapons. He's a solid QB2 every week he starts, and could turn into better than that with experience.
Colt McCoy, QB, Cle - This offense is not good. Their best receiver hasn't had a 1,000 yard season in 3 years. The team hasn't had another quad receiver in much, much longer. But Payton Hillis is dinged, which means more passes. And Colt has been reasonably accurate thus far in his young career. To be sure, this is only a recommendation for deep leagues or 2 QB leagues on a Bye week. But he could potentially turn into something decent. And he's got a very favorable schedule for at least the next few weeks.
John Beck, QB, Was - Shanny can't POSSIBLY make the same mistake as Lovie, can he? Can he? Really? Rex sucked this weekend. Beck is the only other QB on the roster worth anything. On the plus side, he's got a deep, veteran receiving core and one of the best ground minds in the NFL as his coach. So he could surprise at points. Bye week and 2QB filler only here. And don't expect too much.
Kyle Boller, QB, Oak - Deep minded owners need apply only here. Oakland's passing attack has been remarkably decent this season, especially given that their top 2 WRs have been out for the bulk of the season thus far. They just got Darius Heyward-Bey back, and he's a legit talent. But the passing game here is second always to Darren McFadden and the rushing attack. Expect a ceiling of about 250 yards, 2 scores and a pick. He gets the terrible Kansas City Chiefs next week, so he could be a decent play if your QBs are on a Bye and you're out of other options.
Ben Tate, RB, Hou - This team seems to be taking the Shanahan approach to RBs currently. Never let anything on, even if it kills you. But this zone blocking scheme is absolutely amazing, and will produce at least one useful Fantasy starter every week. Yes, I know that Tate is probably already taken after his early season binge. But I think that a lot of owners dumped him off after Arian Foster came back, and there will be enough leagues where he's available to grab him. The ceiling here is probably 80 yards and a score, so don't get your hopes up for elite numbers. But as a Bye-week filler or as a RB3/Flex, you could have worse options. He gets a surprisingly decent Tennessee Titans team next week, so don't let the matchup dictate anything.
Roy Helu, RB, Was - I feel dirty recommending a Shanahan running back. At this point, you should know all about Shanny and his proclivity for changing up his backfield. Any Washington RB is going to be a dice roll, and I don't particularly like those. However, he has looked the most lively of the Washington RBs over the past couple of weeks. And he gets to run roughshod over a terrible Carolina rushing defense that gave 205 to Matt Forte a few weeks ago. He'll either get 100 yards and a score, or he won't see the field. That's boom/bust right there.
DeMarco Murray and Tashard Choice, RB, Dal - Not highly recommended choices here. But Felix Jones went down again (looks like a high ankle sprain, which tends to linger), and both of these guys put up decent numbers in a relief effort. Murray got the bulk of the carries, while Choice was called on for passes. The Cowboys get a cushy matchup at home against the woeful St. Louis Rams. Either option is a 50/50 choice. Don't expect anything big. If either one of them gets 80 yards total, it'll be a good day. Choice should get added somewhere in PPR formats. But you're playing for touchdowns here, not for yards.
C.J. Spiller, RB, Buf - You're picking him up as a volume receiver, and that's about it. He could be a PPR asset, but he's not going to get scores, and he's not going to get rushes. He got 5 catches last week. His schedule is rough, and it doesn't really get any easier. Deep minded PPR owners need apply here only.
Michael Crabtree, WR, SF - Yes, he hasn't gotten it done consistently yet. But 9/77 is still legit work. Yes, he's still got Alex Smith chucking the rock. But he was once a legitimate first round draft pick, 10th overall. The only reason he tumbled was because he didn't know how to put his Hancock on a piece of paper. He's talented, and there's not much else in the San Francisco passing game to fear. He'll get his targets going forward. He's got a Bye this week, so you're really picking him up for future returns. But he's still got the putrid NFC West as his competition, and he comes back to face the decidedly average Browns after the Bye.
Harry Douglas, WR, Atl - Julio Jones is out for at least the next week or two. Roddy White can't get all of the targets for this offense, and Douglas is probably the third best option on this team. He'll probably get you 3-5 catches for around 50-70 yards and maybe a score. Next week he gets a Lions team that had problems with the Bears passing attack when Cutler could get his passes off. He'll be a top Waiver wire target.
Eric Decker, WR, Den - This is purely fallout from the Brandon Lloyd trade yesterday. With Lloyd gone, Decker is likely the #1 in that offensive scheme. However, take this for what it is. This is a John Fox team with a quarterback known more for making plays with his legs than with his arm. If there are 30 passes in any given game, that'll be a lot. But Decker should get the majority of those targets, and that should turn into something resembling a WR2 output. He's also got a cushy schedule for at least 3 weeks, facing the Dolphins, Lions, and Raiders.
Greg Little, WR, Cle - A nice little PPR pickup. Over the last 4 weeks, he's racked up 19 catches for 191 yards. With that kind of volume, scores aren't going to be far behind. Pick him up wherever you can, especially in PPR leagues, and enjoy the volume. As mentioned above for Colt, he's got a cushy schedule for a few weeks, so enjoy him while you can.
Danario Alexander, WR, StL - After the Lloyd trade, consider this a tepid recommendation at best. But in a PPR format, I think he'll post some pretty decent numbers. He won't get elite yardage or a huge number of scores, but he'll probably get a few good catches a week, and that's enough to make you legitimate in PPR. He gets Dallas this week, who slowed down the Patriots powerful offense this week. That team seems as Jekyll-and-Hyde as our Bears. Don't fear the matchup, but don't get cocky either.
Jerome Simpson, WR, Cin - He's the #2 wideout with an all-world talent across from him. He's essentially Nate Burleson lite. He's got some issues with the dropsies, but he's also reached triple digit yards in two of five games. This isn't an every-week starter here. You're probably looking at WR3/Flex play with him. Cincy has a bye, but gets the Seahawks after the bye and a very friendly Playoff schedule (Hou, @Stl, Arz).
Arrelious Benn, WR, TB - He's quietly put together some decent, but low-volume, days over the last few weeks. While 3/83 isn't exactly something to hang your hat upon, it's also not a bad day at all. He's turning into a WR2 in that system, and with LeGarette Blount riding the pine for at least a few weeks, there will be a lot more passes going around. He gets the not very good Bears secondary next week in London, which is a whole slew of variables I don't really want to think about. Start at your own risk.
Jake Ballard, TE, NYG - Here's his stat line for the last 3 weeks: 11 catches, 183 yards, 2 TDs. That's starter material in almost any league except the most shallow. And even then, you'd be thinking about him pretty darn hard. The Giants are basically a Pass to set up the Pass team, even after Bradshaw's emergence this past week. The Giants get a bye, then follow with a visit from the South Florida Fish, and enjoy a not particularly threatening schedule afterwards. Start him, enjoy him.
Fred Davis, TE, Was - Chris Cooley broke his finger this week, and it probably requires surgery. So he's out, whatever bit of him was still useful. This means that Davis is their full time Tight End. Like Beck above, don't overvalue this guy. He's solidly a TE2. But as Bye-week filler, he could work out. Again, Panthers and Bills the next two weeks. They give up yards, if not points. Enjoy!
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Since I'm not going to edit the above, I'm just going to add this below.
Carson Palmer, QB, Oak — He’s a talented pass thrower, and steps into a nice situation with an all-NFL running back in Run DMC, as well as three overlooked but productive WRs. The offense out there was going pretty well with Soupy in at QB. Palmer is significantly better than Soupy. He instantly becomes a borderline QB1, bye week filler, and an every-week starter in 2QB formats. Pick him up, and you won’t be disappointed.
I'm a bit "meh" on Palmer
He wasn’t a great fantasy option (i.e., a teens guy) last year when he had better WR to throw to in Cincinnati. Here, he’s going to a team with a better run game and less accomplished WR. I’d call him a solid bye-week filler, but more of a mid-teens QB.
For reference, these are all guys I’d absolutely rather start than Palmer:
Rodgers
Brady
Stafford
Vick
Brees
Manning
Romo
Rivers
Schaub
Roethlisberger
Ryan
Other guys I’d probably rather start over Palmer:
Tebow (for the rushing yards and TD potential)
Fitzpatrick
Freeman (again, for the rushing yards)
I’d put him in a class with Cutler, Sanchez, Cassel, and Hasselbeck moving forward.
I'm rather down on Schaub without Andre.
I don’t think that Ryan is a particularly good QB. And the homer in me wants to move Cutty up into your second tier.
And don’t discount the Oakland receiving core. DHB will probably be eternally panned because he’ll never live up to his draft position, but he’s a pretty decent player. Jacoby Ford is Knox with some fight in him. Louis Murphy seems like a decent PPR guy. And Moore proved that he can carry a WR2 load (at the very least) when DHB and Ford were out earlier this year.
I do think it’ll take him at least a couple of weeks to get into their playbook. But he’s still a talented pocket passer, and I think a change of scenery will do him a world of good.
Also, remember that I play in a BUNCH of 2QB leagues, so I tend to severely overrate QBs. He’s an every-week starter in 2QB leagues. He’s a good matchup play if you don’t have one of the elites. And he’s one of the better bye-week fillers you’re going to find.
Andre should be back by week 8, though
And Schaub has been solid even without Johnson anyway. Ryan isn’t a great QB, but he’s got better WR and TE to work with and I think he’s as good or better than Palmer aside from the WR talent difference. I’d probably rather have Cutler than Palmer, too, to be honest.
In a 2 QB league, pretty much every starting QB should be owned. So that’s not a terribly interesting waiver pickup. In that scenario, he’s probably worth an every-week start. But most people don’t play in 2 QB leagues. In the standard formats (10 or 12 team), I think Palmer is just a bye week guy.
Tim Tebow would be worth a look at QB as well
I could be wrong, but I believe he put up the most fantasy points at the quarterback position in the final three games of last year when he was given a chance to start. Any legitimate running TD threat from the quarterback position has a chance to put up some nice fantasy points, and Tebow is pretty much the Broncos short yardage back.
Nice catch on the Carson Palmer trade. I just saw what the Bengals got for him (two first round picks), wow did they make out like bandits or what?
Last week's pickups article.
Tebow is obviously the best FA QB on the FF market right now. But we knew about that last week. The guys above are this week’s thought process.
He was actually available in both my leagues
until I picked him up yeterday morning:)
by DanReynolds on Oct 19, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
two questions
would you start kevin walter or dane sanzenbacher at 3rd receiver, and between montario hardesty, ben tate, and jackie battle, who is the safest play,who has the highest ceiling this week, and who would be your choice at flex?
More like Gabe Cadreamy <3
That first one's based on your thought process.
If you value opportunity, and Andre’s not playing, you go Walter. He’ll get 7-10 targets almost every week. If you value TD production, you go Sanz. He seems to be Cutty’s go-to receiver in the red zone. Which is strange, since REY has some 6 inches and 50 pounds on him…
For the second, I’m not sure about any of them, really. Hardesty’s value is tied to Hillis; if Hillis is out, he becomes a reasonable RB2 play based on volume alone. Tate’s part of that crazy good zone-blocking scheme, but he’s a clear #2 behind Arian. Battle kinda has to play by default, but Haley makes Shanahan look completely sane and normal WRT RB play. I’d probably go with Battle out of those 3, but none are a particularly good choice.
thanks
looking at sanz and walter the way you put it really helped, its a .5 ppr league so i think walter will get the start. im going to wait and see whether or not hillis plays to make my decision on my flex. unfortunately i havent actually been able to see hardesty or battle in live action so im not sure how good either one of them are and hardesty wasnt exactly a fantasy machine when he started earlier in the year, but i dont trust that weasel haley either, so unless hillis plays this is still a tough choice
at least its hockey season now
by comebackkirk12 on Oct 19, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd go Walter and Battle
As long as Andre Johnson is out, Walter is a viable WR2/3 play. Sanzenbacher is a fringy guy in fantasy.
I’d say Battle is the safest play of the RB. Tate has the most upside, but that’s entirely tied to Foster’s health. If Foster is healthy, he’s going to get the majority of the touches for the Texans. Hardesty is in a timeshare, too, and the offense isn’t as good as Houston’s. Battle is also in a timeshare, but he seems to be gaining favor and got the most carries last game.
I wouldn’t be fired up about playing Battle, but I’d go with him.
I'd say Walter and Battle
Dane’s a TD machine, but you just never know if he’s going to score or get a lot of looks – Walter’s safer.Hardesty and Tate are both coming off the bench in support of talented backs and will get yards, but the Chiefs will rely heavily on Battle to stay in their game.
If its free, take two.
I've already picked up DeMarco Murray but should I puck up Battle and drop James Starks? My other starter is Arian Foster and Fred Jackson is on a bye. Thoughts?
by frenchbears113 on Oct 19, 2011 10:23 AM CDT reply actions
Green Bay does not run the football.
Or at least, they don’t commit to their RBs like many other teams do. Todd Haley might be Shanahan-like in his RB carousel, but he’s pretty much always committed to the ground game. Remember that Battle has to contend with the rapidly declining Thomas Jones and the enigmatic Dexter McCluster, but I think he’s pretty good for 10-15 touches a week. There aren’t too many players with opportunities like that at the moment, and Starks clearly isn’t one of them. Just remember that Battle isn’t going to give you Starter numbers. He’s going to give you RB3/Flex numbers on a good day. They travel to the Raiders this week. I’m still not sure what that team is, TBQH. But I don’t think they’re an elite run-stopping team. I’d be fine rolling with Battle in your situation.
That's what I figured. I mean they were blowing out the Rams and STILL didn't really run the ball. I just need a 3rd RB who's reliable.
Murray is like a bigger version of Felix Jones and I think he’ll do more in the run game than Jones did. I’m not sure about Battle’s ability to catch passes out of the backfield and that’s why I’m a bit hesitant with him. Starks may not get all and a lot of touches but he gets some decent opportunities in the passing game.
by frenchbears113 on Oct 19, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
He's a bigger, slower version of Jones
Murray doesn’t quite have Jones’s speed. He’s a little bigger (about 10 lbs heavier), and may be more durable.
I wouldn’t expect huge numbers from Murray, because the Cowboys seem to still be a pass-first team and Choice may still get the 3rd down work (as was the case when Jones was the starter).
I’d be starting Murray over either Starks or Battle though. Starks or Battle is just a coin flip for me on the bench. They’re both in time shares. Battle has the clearer path to fantasy relevance I guess. But Starks is a better runner, better receiver, and in a better offense. But he’s only going to get 10-15 carries a week (he’s had between 11 and 13 in all but one game – 9 in that one other game). Battle could get 15-20. So it’s deciding whether to roll the dice that Starks gets a TD or Battle doesn’t repeat his monster game (which came against the Colts). But either guy is a borderline flex at the moment.
I'm pretty sure Murray ran a 4.3 at the Combine but your point is valid.
I think they hand the ball off to Murray more in this game because the Rams have a terrible D. He may not put up monster numbers but I think the Cowboys go up big and start running the ball after that.
by frenchbears113 on Oct 20, 2011 6:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I would drop Murray to grab Battle
Starks is ownable for the year and Battle is far more likely to start both more weeks and more consistently. I’d rather have him over Murray, who I’d take the under against if the line was set at 3.5 starts ROS
A guy in our league dropped Peyton Hillis
Are you guys giving up on him? I too am considering dropping James Starks and picking up Hillis. I have other RBs to cover, but between Grant and James I’d rather get someone who’ll eventually carry the rock more barring injury with his hamstring. I have Shady McCoy and Bradshaw on Bye this week.
I also picked up Colt McCoy after losing out on waivers for J Campbell. I wanted to try to take adavantage of his upcoming matchups with J Cutler having a BYE in Wk 8. What do you think?
Vintage. Kinda like your K-Tel Record collection.
I meant
losing out on Carson Palmer after J Campbell went down.
Vintage. Kinda like your K-Tel Record collection.
You need to watch out for Montario Hardesty though. He's going to get more touches and that may mean a RBBC situation in Cleveland.
But Hillis is still better than Starks. I just dropped Starks for Jackie Battle because Starks isn’t getting enough carries for my taste AND he’s not making much out of the carries he already gets. He is a threat to take it to the house but even with huge leads, the Pack hasn’t been running the ball. Another guy I picked up as a bye-week replacement is DeMarco Murray. He’s the #1 in Dallas until Jones gets back and much like Jones, he’s a solid pass-catcher. He also has speed and the Rams are top-5 in worst run D in the league. Also the Cowboys are at home and Bradford will be playing with a bad ankle. Just things to consider!
by frenchbears113 on Oct 19, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice...
I didn’t think about him. For some reason I assumed Choice would’ve been the back. I’ll check the waiver wire. Thanks.
Vintage. Kinda like your K-Tel Record collection.
Yeah, Choice is likely to remain the 3rd down back
Murray got the majority of the carries after Jones got hurt this past week.
If somebody's droppin Hillis...
I’m buyin. That’s what’s known as a Workhorse back, ladies and gents. Dropping him is akin to giving up on the season. Pick him up and don’t look back.
Colt this year is like Freeman and Bradford last year. Nothing flashy, consistently average fantasy numbers, but no down weeks and generally winning teams. If he’s your Bye week filler, you’re probably doing something right, especially in deeper leagues.
I'd definitely pick Hillis up, but...
I’m not doing so thinking he’s a certain workhorse the rest of the way. He’s a guy who has gotten 16 carries for 60 years combined the past two games. Between the hamstring issues, the contract issue, and the lack of touches the past two games, he’s not a slam dunk play moving forward.
Worth the waiver pickup, but I’d say “wait and see” with him. Aside from the game against the Colts (who can’t stop the run), Hillis has 33 carries for 117 yards over 3 games (below 40 yards per game, sub 4 yards per carry) with no TD.
Two questions on two more leagues and then I'll standby
I have Bowe vs Oakland, Burress vs SD, M Williams vs Chi, T Smith vs Jax, and Knox vs TB this week. Being that I only have 2 RBs due to Bye weeks and will have to play a Wr in the flex, which three do you suggest?
In the other league I have Williams vs Chi, Decker vs Mia, Fitz vs Pit, and Bouldin vs Jax with Forte, R Matthews and Rice as my RBs/Flex. Which two receivers do you suggest out of the four I mentioned to start? Just looking for a little input. Thanks.
Vintage. Kinda like your K-Tel Record collection.
If Bowe's healthy, he's a MUST START.
I don’t know how this happened, but the guy got over his terminal case of the dropsies, and has turned into an absolute weapon on the same level as Kenny Britt. If not him, then you go with Williams, again if he’s healthy.
Fitz is must-start material, every week, every down. His talent is undeniable, and that will power him through some bad QB play and good defenses. He’s on the same level as Calvin Johnson in terms of his raw ability. if an 1100/6 year is your DOWN year, then you’re an absolute elite player. He’s got basically 6 consecutive 1000+ yard seasons, and has double digit scores in 4 of those. You start him. As long as he’s Active, you start him. Of the other two, I’d probably go with Decker. He’s got the worst matchup, and there are no other WRs on that team worth anything. Keep in mind that the ceiling is low here. But I believe he can get 60-80 yards and maybe a score depending on how the game goes.
Bowe is a clear start...
as for the other two WR spots, yuck. I’d go with Mike Williams next. As for the last spot, I’d go with Smith and hope for the home run. I’m just not psyched about Knox, and Burress hasn’t done anything for weeks. Just know that there’s a reasonable chance you could get 0 from Smith.
In the other league, Fitzgerald and Boldin. I’m in a “wait and see” this week with regard to Denver WR (we’ll see how much/well Tebow throws it, and to whom). It’s a great matchup for Boldin, but I think he’s a slightly safer play.
Thanks fellas
I think you’ve both convinced me of whom to start. I agree that Decker, being the primary receiver for Tebow, might not produce well this week, so I think it’s Bowe, Smith and Williams, and for the other league, Fitz and Bouldin, though I’m worried about Pitt and the pressure they’ll put on Kobb. Will have to look hard at him or Williams.
Thanks again.
Vintage. Kinda like your K-Tel Record collection.
Out of your receivers my votes go to Bowe, Williams and Smith but just barely.
In your other league I’d go Fitz and Boldin but Decker may be a sleeper against Miami. Just my input.
Yeah Miami doesn't scare anyone.
I may have to look at that closely. Good call.
Vintage. Kinda like your K-Tel Record collection.
Yeah, the questions for Decker are
1. how much does Tebow throw at all?
2. how much can Tebow get it downfield?
3. how much will Tebow run?
4. how accurate will Tebow be?
5. will another player overtake his targets (like Thomas or Moreno or the TE Fells)?
If he’s the clear #1 and Tebow can get anything reasonable going, Decker has promise. But for this week he makes me nervous.
I expect a decent day from Tebow, but nothing special for his teammates as rushing yards and rushing TD boost his stats.
by SouthernCub on Oct 19, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Also Demaryius Thomas is coming back so he may steal some looks but last season Tebow didn't have a lot of problem getting the ball to Lloyd.
But that was more of Lloyd making plays on the ball but now that he’s not there Decker becomes the de facto #1 unless Thomas shows up in a big way. I think he’s a sleeper in the red zone but the game will rely more on the run. Although I wouldn’t be shocked if the Dolphins actually stop the run and force Tebow to pass. Don’t think it could happen but stranger things have happened lol
by frenchbears113 on Oct 20, 2011 6:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Start Hillis, Deangelo Williams, or Jackie Battle?
I already got MJD…but man my RB depth is bad
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Yikes
That MJD/Hillis/DeAngelo backfield looked really solid before the season. I guess I’d go with Battle, but I wouldn’t be thrilled about doing so. All three are going to be in some sort of a timeshare situation. Maybe Hillis will get more work, but at the moment I’d go with Battle and feel “meh” about it.
Check the injury reports before you go in.
If Hillis is healthy and starting, you play him. He’s the workhorse there as long as he’s healthy. If he’s not healthy, I’d probably go with Battle. DeAngelo isn’t going to get scores this year or any year for the forseeable future. And he hasn’t gotten yards yet. Battle is an unknown, but I think he’ll get 10-15 touches, which is a decent workload.
I'd call Fred Davis more than a TE2
I’d say he’s a borderline TE1. He’s now had 3 of his 5 weeks with 9+ points, and is 6th in PPG among TE (he’s already had his bye week). Even with the crapfest that was the QB situation last week, he got 95 yards on 6 catches.
I can’t think of 10 TE that I’d regularly play in front of Fred Davis.
The position is simply a cluster this year.
There’s a lot of guys all bunched together, and I’m notoriously slow in upgrading players based on short-term play. With guys like Lloyd and Palmer, where there’s a history of fantasy good and a massive change of scenery, I tend to be a little more bullish. But if there isn’t a history of Good, then I tend to assume they can’t get it done on a weekly basis. It’s why I’d probably let matchups decide the TE position with just about anybody outside of the pure elites (Gonzo, Gates, Indy, and GB).
Davis has 80+ yards in 3 of his 5 games this year
And he had 4 catches in one of the other games.
I’m not a fan of carrying multiple TE. And unless I have Graham, Finley, a healthy Gates, Witten, or Aaron Hernandez, or maybe Owen Daniels and Vernon Davis, I don’t have a problem starting Fred Davis every week.
I’d put Davis in the Pettigrew/Clark/Winslow/Keller class (probably a bit ahead of the last two on that list).
Plus he doesn't have to split touches
with Chris Cooley like he did for some of those weeks. The only danger is that he doesn’t click as well with Beck as he did with Grossman.
TE1 in my mind
I've got a really weird question...
I’m in a 10 team, 2QB league where I drafted A-rod and Brees. I picked up Palmer and Tebow for depth and trade bait. Unfortunately, that left me rather thin at the RB position. I just got a trade offer…
I give up: A-rod
I get: Arian and Flacco
I know that’s a bad trade for me. But I don’t know what kind of trade would work for this. Here are the two team rosters…
mine
A-rod, Brees, Megatron, DHB, Nate Washington, LT, Battle, Dallas Clark, Mike Thomas, Andre Johnson, Jeremy Maclin, Cedric Benson, Julio Jones, Blount, Tebow, Palmer
his
Flacco, Rivers, Colston, Boldin, Garcon, Run DMC, Arian, Jimmy Graham, Shonn Greene, Fitz, Alex Smith, Ingram, Lloyd, Starks
Our starting positions are 2QB, 3WR, 2RB, TE, 2W/R/T flex
I was thinking about putting A-Rod and Benson up for DMC, Arian, and Fitz. But I know that wouldn’t fly with him. I really need to get RB upgrades, and I’d like to get a 4th WR on there. HELP!
Yeah, you're hurting at RB
Which “Fitz” are you talking about? Fitzpatrick or Fitzgerald?
I’d try to trade Brees for an RB and a WR. You almost certainly aren’t going to get 2 RB1 and a WR1 for Rodgers and Benson. I mean, I guess you could ask, but I’d say “no” immediately to such a request, and probably not be interested in giving a counter offer.
I guess it depends on your league, but I’m not sure you really need a fourth WR. Andre Johnson should be back in week 8 or 9, and then you have him, Maclin, and Calvin Johnson to work with, with Jones likely back by the time Calvin Johnson has his bye. Fitzgerald is an upgrade over Jones for sure, but then you’re just putting a very good WR on the bench.
Maybe a Brees for Foster deal? Brees/Benson for Flacco/Foster/Greene? Rodgers/Blount/Benson for Flacco/DMC/Foster?
Basically, I don't see a way to upgrade at both RB spots with this guy's team
The dropoff from DMC and Foster to his #3 is pretty huge. So it’d likely take an earthshattering offer for him to give up both. (like Brees/Maclin/Benson/Blount for Flacco/DMC/Foster). Otherwise, trading both RB would kind of decimate his team.
And he’s not deep enough at WR to offer Fitzgerald (I’m assuming it’s Fitzgerald after re-reading).
I might try to see if there’s another team to trade with. It just doesn’t seem like an easy trade fit can work with this guy. There’s bound to be somebody in your league that could use Tebow or Palmer for a decent RB (or Brees for a very good RB).
Injuries decimated me...
I started the year with Megs, Andre, and Britt as my WRs, and with my QBs, I thought the year would be a cakewalk. I’m now 3-3 with the #2 overall score, and two of my starting WRs are down for the count.
I had a trade out there A-rod and Benson for Ray Rice and Wes Welker, but I thought I was selling myself short and withdrew it. The guy has CJ2k, AP, Wallace, and Dez, but his QBs are Cutty, Freeman, and Dalton. Maybe I could swing Brees and Benson for Rice and Welker?
I hate having to cheer for A-rod every week. Makes me sick. Somebody already turned me down A-rod for Brady. I want him off my team, but I want good comp for him, and that’s making this rather weird…
Really tests the loyalties, doesn't it?
I don’t think anyone would’ve made that trade though, especially if you’re in a PPR league. Welker and Rice are beasts. The fact that Benson is subject to go off and do something stupid would shy me away from him. Though is QBs aren’t necessarily lighting it up, there are managing to probably keep him in it. He’s probably hoping either Freeman or Dalton level out.
What sucks is that I had Britt too and had to let him go. I thought I stole him in the 6th round, but people kept telling me I drafted him too high.
Between Arian Foster, CJ hold out, Britt’s injury, and Jamaal Charles, I was ready to pack it in!!
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Chris Johnson and Adrian Peterson on the same team
wow…
those were both top 5 picks in all of my leagues
by Minds_Eye024 on Oct 21, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
2QB leagues tend to mess with the drafting order.
Also, it was an autopick-only draft. REALLY messed with the drafting order. First round had 5 QBs taken. Second had another 4. Somehow, Rodgers and Brees were the 5th and 6th QBs taken overall (how does THAT happen?!?) I had 21 QBs ranked before my first non-QB ranking. And I excluded every single DEF, K, and IDP from my rankings.
Yeah, I had to stay away from the 2 QB leagues.
Depending on the size of the league, you’d be hurting during bye weeks and vying for QBs on the waiver wire.
I’m officially done with Auto pick after this year. Though I always try to get the 2 RBs and at least 2 WRs and maybe a thrid RB before I go after a QB. Worked out well for me this year. I was able to get Ray Rice, Matt Forte, Larry Fitzgerald, Mike Williams and Fred Jackson with that format, even though Fitz and Williams aren’t necessarily lighting it up this year. Grabbed Romo in the 6th and still managed to get Ryan Matthews, Stafford and Bouldin in a 10 player league picking 5th.
Vintage. Kinda like your K-Tel Record collection.
That's why I refuse to play in autopick leagues
too little control of who you draft, and the draft is soooo important.
Gotta question how 4 QB went ahead of Rodgers. Maybe 2 (Vick and Brady), but 4 (and one of them wasn’t Brees)? Crazy.
You'll love this...
The 4 ahead of Rodgers?
2. Tony Romo
6. Eli Manning
7 Matt Cassel
8. Vick
Brady and Rivers weren’t taken until the 4th round. Donny Mac and Peyton were taken in the 2nd.
I took one look at the draft results and ROFL’d. Yep, easily my favorite league this year.
At least you'll get Andre Johnson back soon
I’d give the Brees/Benson for Welker/Rice a shot. If he declines, maybe try swapping Welker for Bryant?
Writers' League Happ'nins!
- Smudgers has been a busy one on the trade wire. He brought in Brandon Lloyd from Ronkowski for David Nelson and Jackie Battle, and took Chris Johnson from me for Darren Sproles and Daniel Thomas (in fairness to me, CJ’s pained my ass all last year and so far into this year, and we’re playing .5 PPR). Earlier, Smudgers also traded Drew Brees, Cedric Benson and Joseph Addai to Dom Blanton for Jay Cutler, Arian Foster and Sproles. Brendan traded Andre Johnson and Felix Jones to Just Dave for Fred Jackson.
- Smudgers also happens to own Tim Tebow. Just so everyone knows.
- I actually at one point played Ryan Torain. (shame)
- Standings, Joe the Boss leads the world with 6-0, and Member Entry Mallomania is second at 5-1. Blanton and Kev are tied at 4-2, Dave and Ronkowski are each 3-3. There’s a five-way after that with myself, Ashley, Fantasy Master Brendan, Smudgers and Sam at 2-4, and Adam brings up the rear with 1-5, just to prove running the show doesn’t get you anything here.
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by Steven Schweickert on Oct 21, 2011 11:40 AM CDT reply actions
Also need to point out:
- I’ve allowed the most points in the league so far (720.00) and am riding a 3-game losing streak.
- Mallomania has scored the most points (775.82).
- Brendan started 0-4. YOU FEEL SHAME.
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by Steven Schweickert on Oct 21, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
You got your props.
Happy now?
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by Steven Schweickert on Oct 23, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Because I was too lazy to put together a Fantasy Q&A
Congrats!
And you wrote a solid fantasy post!
Whenever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft, it changes its call sign to Bear Force One.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 21, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
wrecked for laziness
Stephen Hawking was paralysed after Mr. T pitied him so hard he was hurled through the air and crashed into an orphanage, killing 50.
by Ditkavsworld on Oct 21, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
What about a rec for ingenuity?
Whenever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft, it changes its call sign to Bear Force One.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 21, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Um
no.
Stephen Hawking was paralysed after Mr. T pitied him so hard he was hurled through the air and crashed into an orphanage, killing 50.
by Ditkavsworld on Oct 21, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
:(
Whenever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft, it changes its call sign to Bear Force One.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 21, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
any thoughts on
Brandon Marshall or Eric Decker?
Lloyd or Sidney Rice or Robert Meachem?
Decker or Harvin?
Roethlisberger or Cutler? Cutler has been good the last 2 weeks, and Ben went 5 TD’s one week, to not a lot last week. I played cutler the week of the 5 TD game for Ben, and Ben last week and Cutler did better.
All coin flips for me at this point.
I’m not sure on Decker’s place in the pecking order. Marshall is his team’s #1 WR. I tend to go with opportunity over everything else.
Ewww… I’d probably say Lloyd, but none of those are particularly appetizing options this week.
Harvin’s the unquestioned #1 on that team. And Ponder actually looks halfway decent. Opportunity generally trumps everything else.
Oh, forgot about the QBs.
Ben gets Arizona. You go with him. They are one of the worst passing defense in the NFL right now. Tampa is at least adequate.
Any thoughts on my flex options this week?
trying to chose between Garcon, McGahee, and N. Washington
rest of lineup is as follows
QB: Big Ben
WR: M Austin
WR: R White
RB: A Foster
RB: CJ2K
TE: O Daniels
RB/WR/TE: ???
DEF: Dallas
by Ortons Neckbeard on Oct 21, 2011 12:36 PM CDT reply actions
I'd probably discount McGahee out of those guys.
Tebow’s going to be their first, second, and third option around the goal line, so you’re playing for yards. But McGahee doesn’t get yards in the first place.
Of the other two, they’re both gonna get their touches. So you decide based on the matchup. Garcon gets a reasonably soft Saints secondary, while Washington gets the probably softer Houston secondary with no pass rush. Garcon has bigger upside, but Washington has the higher floor. You can coin flip that as much as you like.
Thanks
I was worried about the Tebow vulture factor as well, coin flip on the WRs it is. Plus, it’s a full pt PPR league, one of the WRs is probably a better option like you said. Bear Down!
by Ortons Neckbeard on Oct 21, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
McGahee has gotten 100+ yards in 3 of his last 4 games
and averaged 6.9 and 7.8 ypc the last two games. I agree he won’t get TD with Tebow, but I wouldn’t say he doesn’t get yards.
That said, I’d take Garcon. He’s gotten a ton of targets with Painter, and he’s produced for the most part. In thinking about yardage points, Washington will give you 6-10. McGahee 6-12. Garcon is probably a 4-12 guy. But Garcon is the most likely to score of those three.
Some dude in my leauge picked up Dwayne Bowe from wavers
Yeah fricken Bowe from wavers lol
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I had to drop Bowe strategically due to the bye week and strict rules on rosters
max 3 WRs and 3 RBs. I have V Jackson and G Jennings, and Bowe was on bye week. Dropped Bowe and Ryan Matthews picked up Shonn Greene and Pierre Garcon. The gamble paid of for Bowe as I got him back, but wasn’t so lucky with Matthews. I have R Rice and A Bradshaw as my normal starters now, but im kinda kicking myself over Matthews. And after all this, I realized I can start WR, RB, OR TE!!! in the flex. Moral of the story is to learn the rules of the league before dropping people.
by Minds_Eye024 on Oct 21, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Greg little or Kevin Walter
Stephen Hawking was paralysed after Mr. T pitied him so hard he was hurled through the air and crashed into an orphanage, killing 50.
Droppapotamus or the No Offense team?
Check the injury report before the games start. If Andre’s not starting, then Walter will get at least 10 targets. That’s a workload I can’t really ignore, regardless of the dropsies. Little has the higher floor, Walter the higher ceiling (at least IMO). You can probably coin flip that one and not be wrong.
Well Little was targeted 12 times last week and nearly in double digits the week before their bye-week.
Little is the go-to option in Cleveland whereas Walter is hit or miss IMO.
by frenchbears113 on Oct 21, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah that's what I'm seeing as well
the projections are only a point apart, but not that projections mean anything.
Stephen Hawking was paralysed after Mr. T pitied him so hard he was hurled through the air and crashed into an orphanage, killing 50.
by Ditkavsworld on Oct 21, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, that little bit of info makes the choice fairly easy.
Little all the way :-)
Well also the Browns are playing the Seahawks and their D is a step down from Tennessee's.
Also Walter hasn’t done much since Johnson got injured and really none of the Houston wideouts have. Foster is the only legit threat and teams are gearing up to stop him so Schaub has to throw it and without Johnson he’s only been OK doing that. I’m rolling with Little myself so if I’m wrong, I too will get screwed lol
by frenchbears113 on Oct 21, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd probably go with Little vs Seahawks
But Walter has 11 catches, 133 yards, and a TD in his last two games. So he has been solid without Andre Johnson.
Start Nate Washington or Santana Moss?( I got AJ green but he's on the bye week) and I also have Larry Fitz
Also who to pick up from wavers at WR?
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That's a tough one because we don't know how Beck is going to do. Also the Panthers have a solid secondary so combine that with a probable run-heavy game-plan by the Skins you don't know what you'll get.
Washington has been OK since the first 2 weeks and he’s more of a deep-threat so he MAY be the better option. I too have both of these guys but I’m rolling with Washington. Just my opinion though so I can’t be held legally responsible if I’m wrong lol
by frenchbears113 on Oct 21, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Tough call
It’d bet that Fred Davis has a good game. Personally I’d go with Washington.
Vintage. Kinda like your K-Tel Record collection.
There's no question about who to start in my thoughts...
Nate’s got the targets from a reasonably accurate QB and he’s basically the only WR on that team. Plus, the matchup’s pretty good.
Santana’s got a guy I’ve never seen before. He’s also facing Carolina, which means if they don’t put the ball on the ground 35+ times, they’re really not trying.
Steven Jackson, McGahee, Battle, Or Graham to start on flex?
I have Hillis too but idk if he gonna be healthy.
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Toss McGahee immediately. He won't get enough goal line carries to be Fantasy effective.
Also tossing S-Jax for the same reason Str8chi does below. Dallas is darn good against the run.
I’d probably choose Graham over Battle, but I tend to go with safe picks. Graham is more of a receiving threat, the Bears aren’t a particularly good defense, and he’s the unquestioned lead back. Battle, we don’t really know anything about him. After this week, we’ll know more about where to slot him.
Earnest Graham.
Definitely. Chicago’s Run D is sitting down at 22 while Dallas holds the #1 spot. Doesn’t mean that it can change, but just saying…
Vintage. Kinda like your K-Tel Record collection.
I am not one to play matchups with Rivers
but Rivers against NYJ or Big Ben v Arizona
Where the white women at?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGQ-ISsDm8M
Rivers hasn't been elite this year.
Might have something to do with Gates not being on the field. Either way, you can’t really ignore the matchups here. Rivers has one of the worst matchups in the NFL this week, while Ben has one of the best. I’d go with Ben, but I know others are in the “Start Your Studs” camp with this one…
Matchup Mess
Thinking about starting Cutler vs Bucs over P. Rivers vs Jets. Am I crazy?
Also, I pickup Greg Little. But do I start him over Sidney Rice? Whitehurst is starting QB, but Browns CB Joe Haden could be out or limited.
Please some help!
Romo or Tebow in a league where I get 4 pts per TD pass and 6 per rushing TD? Also. it’s 1 per 50 yds passing and 1 per 20 yds rushing. Tebow, right?
In another league (ppr)- Breaston, Hardesty, or Murray?
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