Thoughts From NFL Week 7: Chicago Bears and beyond
The 7th Sunday of the NFL season is history, and is there a better story going on right now than Timmy? I could go on and on about Tebowmania, but that may alienate some of the regular readers around these parts, so I'll quell my urges and limit my post to a single Tim Tebow thought.
There was some interesting games yesterday, so it's on to my Thoughts!
1) I can't believe the Chargers gave up 17 unanswered second half points to Mark Sanchez and the Jets.
2) I think it's safe to say the Titans aren't that good of a team. Chris Johnson may not get 1000 yards on the ground this year.
3) OK, I tried to hold off on my Tebow thought til later, but here goes... After starting the day 4-14 for 40 yards passing he ended up 13-27 for 161 yards and 2 TD. He added 65 yards on the ground. And led his team back after trailing 15-0. I can't explain it, but he finds a way to win. The Broncos are better off with him starting, and they will be relevant again with a couple good drafts.
4) I've seen Carson Palmer getting ripped for his Raider debut in a few places, and that's really unfair. He's a solid NFL QB, but after many months of inactivity, new teammates, and a new offense to digest, did anyone expect him to step in and be successful?
5) Uh-oh Lions fans, I wonder if any concerns are setting in with Matthew Stafford going down again. Is it an ankle injury, a knee injury, or both?
6) I had no idea the Indians were playing the Mariners. A 6-3 NFL score in 2011 with most offense's going crazy must mean the Browns and Seahawks are really, really, bad.
7) And speaking of really, really, bad. The Colts should find a way to shut down all their important vets for the remainder of the '11 season. That team is playing for nothing except the #1 overall draft pick.
8) Staying with that game for one more, Drew Brees shredded the Colt D for a Maddenesque 31-35, 325, and 5 TD. That is video game ridiculous.
9) I want to know what genius had DeMarco Murray starting on their fantasy team. I know some outside the box thinker had to have him playing this week. Murray had the greatest single rushing game in Cowboys history, a history that includes Emmit Smith and Tony Dorsett.
10) Pay Matt Forte. He's on a historic pace, and he's an actual, real life, good draft pick by Bears GM Jerry Angelo.
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Lions 5-2 have a trip to Chicago on the horizon...
I’m intrigued. Also thoughts on the Lions and there new found chippiness.
Stephen Hawking was paralysed after Mr. T pitied him so hard he was hurled through the air and crashed into an orphanage, killing 50.
They won't have
the Ford Field crowd to help them by creating false starts this time around. It seems some of the “magic” has faded from the Lions season, and the players are starting to get testy.
As for the allegations that Suh and others were taunting or joking about Matt Ryan, I can believe it.
If Stafford misses significant time, the Bears should be able to pull back into 2nd place in the North. If Stafford is seriously hurt again, all the Lions fans that said how much better he is than Cutler will need to start thinking about how he hasn’t finished a season thus far.
Actually...
At this point in the season, and after watching Sunday’s games, there is still a possible chance the Bears will get an NFC wildcard. Here’s why:
- Bears started slow (Falcons game was a fluke since they were worse), but worked on fixing their Defense, and re-discovering their Offense. Like Lovie said during the last post-game, the “Bears arrow is pointing up.”
- Lions are contemplating a possible collapse. All it would take is a loss to Denver to get the slump going.
- Packers are honestly not all that hot: they are beatable. Many of their games came down to a single score. They caught the Bears at a bad time earlier, that’s all. Bears can definitely show them what’s up when they visit Green Bay, if the WR’s show up to play.
by PatientBear on Oct 24, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Lions and their fans
are full of confidence after their 5-0 start, and are trying to bully opponents. Their cockiness is fine, especially after so many down years, but if their carrying it over to being d-bags (i.e. taunting injured players) that’s uncalled for. Suh, right now, is a dirty player by reputation.
If its free, take two.
Agreed
I used to half heatedly feel better that the Lions were no longer kings of the loser jungle, but after having to actually watch them so much this year, their dirty play and arrogance is just nauseating. Bicep flexes should be a fine given all the other crap that players are fined for (Like Troy P. calling his wife on the sideline after a head injury. Really?).
The Lions head coach reminds me of the typical short kid in school that felt he had to prove everything and kept getting beat up.
Pay Matt Forte! Now!
by TheotherDane on Oct 24, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
The Lions have their bye the week before the Bears game
The game may be in Chicago, but they’ll have two weeks to game plan.
I hope we don’t have two weeks of Lions fans trying to argue that Stafford isn’t a better quarterback because Calvin Johnson plays on his team.
The game may be in Chicago, but they’ll have two weeks to game plan.
True but a bye week in no way means a victory for the Lions, I also have to think that the Bears may have a bit of payback on there mind and I bet that our line will play much better and of course the Soldier Field Turf or as I call it the 12th defender will be in full fall splendor.
You think the Bears thought they were playing at home with the way the turf was at Wembley?
Stephen Hawking was paralysed after Mr. T pitied him so hard he was hurled through the air and crashed into an orphanage, killing 50.
by Ditkavsworld on Oct 24, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Schwartz' sissiness
cancels out any chippiness. I just had a feeling that the Lions were posers. No real offensive identity, other than throwing it up there for Johnson. On the defensive side, good front four, then what? They got away with one against the Bears, but I’m optimistic about the next time around.
My girlfriend drafted Murray
based on my recommendation. I also put a claim in, but she was higher on the waiver wire.
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My buddy
picked him up at 12:48 pm yesterday and started him – Murray singlehandedly won his game for him this week.
If its free, take two.
Murray was on my bench... and now I'm about to lose tonight by less than 10 points.
Pissed.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
haha!
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 24, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
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Watching Robison kick a Packer player square in the junk was the best play I’ve seen all year.
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.
Come add to my future suffering at http://www.skullsfortots.com
I agreed with you last night in a different thread
and I still agree with you now.
Watching it in slo-mo is great, because you can see the moment between the foot finding its target and the moment the foot was fully and forcefully delivered.
I loved that.
I saw your link yesterday!
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 24, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I love Robison's excuse, too
I meant to kick him, but not in the twig ’n berries. My bad.
If its free, take two.
Awesome!
I know Robison will likely get a fine, but will the NFL bother to consider that the offending (and offensive) Packer was about to step on a player who was defenseless on the ground?
Pay Matt Forte! Now!
by TheotherDane on Oct 24, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
i also thought it was awesome.
if it was another team of course i could get all snooty but f the pack, low blow be damned.
Boy, I sure hope this is the mess hall....how's it goin' Eisenhower?
by reefermadness3 on Oct 25, 2011 7:19 AM CDT up reply actions
1) I’d be surprised, except Norv’s the coach, so nothing surprises me when they find a way to lose.
2) CJ2k’s performance so far is why Angelo is hesitating on Forte, in addition to JA being stupid.
3) I have no idea if Tebow’s gonna be any good, but finding a way to win is good, even if its the Dolphins.
4) Palmer played because that’s how bad Boller was, and Pryor isn’t ready yet.
5) Stafford’s in a boot and day-to-day, but that’s not a good sign. 1st crack in glassman’s season.
6) I had the misfortune of watching the Sea-Cle game, and gawd, was it terrible.
7) Colts… just wow.
8) Someone tell the Colts they should’ve hit the reset button.
9) Murray didn’t even start on Sunday! That makes it even crazier!
10) Pay Matt Forte. That is all.
If its free, take two.
Indeed, the rarest of all beasts
he’s an actual, real life, good draft pick by Bears GM Jerry Angelo.
Also ESPN says that Stafford has an ankle injury and is day to day.
Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. -George Halas
day to day, that's it!
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 24, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Which means he'll be out Sunday lol
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No he'll try to play and show how tough he is, then exacerbate the injury.
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by badsamaritan on Oct 24, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Perv
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by suckmyditka on Oct 25, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
DeMarco Murray
I want to know what genius had DeMarco Murray starting on their fantasy team. I know some outside the box thinker had to have him playing this week.
Actually, at game time, over 60% of CBS had Murray in their starting lineups (including myself). Playing the worst run defense in the NFL, made it an easy choice. Also most Murray owners were just hedging their crumby Felix Jones pick.
I draft Murray in the last round in my league, dropped in him week 3, then outright dumped Felix for him this past week. I don’t care if someone else scoops up Felix… that was a horrible pick in hindsight and I want to rid myself of the disappointment.
oh... I'm not doing fantasy this year...
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 24, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Very interesting thoughts
1. Agreed
2. Agreed
3. It was impressive but his receivers also bailed him out a lot and they played against a sorry team. BUT I will give credit where it’s due and he made plays when he had to and helped get the Broncos a win.
4. Agreed
5. Agreed
6. Funny and also agreed
7. Agreed again (You are on a roll Monsieur)
8. Sick performance and he helped me in a FF blowout
9. Hahaha I started Murray over the higher-ranked Jackie Battle
10. Agreed again
Hmmm
1 – Ya I stopped watching that game and I kick myself for doing that
2 – Was never really sold on the titans so not to surprised Guess houston has a clear path to the AFC south title
3 – Watching the 30 min replay man tebows accuracy was HORRIBLE. Even the denver fans were turning on him. That said their OC was not helping him out in that first half playcalling. Why miami went for 2 instead of one I will not understand. But when push came to shove tebow did it. Still miami is a bad team. With ESPN talking you would think that tebow beat the AFC all pro team on a day when ponder and newton out played him but eh
4 – While that was a bad performance by palmer I still wonder about him. I mean I seen him play last season and he just did not look the same (20 INTs). Still with so little time to prepare this week and coming in down 21 – 0 cant put to much into this one
5 – I know I was sorta rooting for the lions but their recent antics (schrewtz hand shake gate and yelling at opposing teams, the pushing and shoving before atl game, the taunting of ryan) I am not fond of that stuff but eh what can you do. Anyways saw a report that stafford left in a walking boot (cant find it now though). Doubt that the injury is serious cause it would have leaked out by now.
6 – When I saw that I was stunned. Must have been bad football. Like someone said in the game thread that should have been the london game cause they would have eaten that up
7 – IMO blow up the colts. Fire and trade everyone (except polian) and start over. Horrendous
8 – My grandma could have done the same with her calling her own offensive plays
9 – propheteer asked if he should start murray in the pre game thread. Wonder if he did
10 – Yep yep and yep
other
11 – ponder looked pretty good against the packers but the packers offense is just a machine. Why frazier punted the ball back with time winding down I will not know. Decent game when I was expecting a 45 – 10 blow out
I want history to erase their every achievement.....I want them to feel the disgust in the red sox fans eyes when they look on them in shame....
- Theo Epstein on Larry Lucchino and John Henry
1. Nothing surprises me about the Boltz anymore. If we weren’t already clamoring for the label, that has to be the single most underachieving team in the history of the NFL.
2. Probably not. But they’re no 0-16 team either. They’re not the Fins.
3. He’s gonna be the most fun player to watch the rest of the season. He’s gonna suck for extended period of any given game, but he’ll be fun to watch both when he’s failing and when he’s succeeding.
4. That’s still the dumbest trade in NFL history…
5. Can we stop the trolls now, please?
6. Yes, and Yes.
7. And then they should attempt to trade that pick for as much material as they can possibly get. Preferably (for their sake) to the Washington Redskins, who will likely own a #10 overall and would GLADLY accept Luck for probably the same package that the Bears gave up for Cutty, if not more than that.
8. Brees, Rodgers, Brady, and Newton are essentially playing Madden with the rest of the league right now. This is a CRAZY season.
9. A bunch of them. If you didn’t have three of the top 10 RBs in the NFL, you were starting Murray this weekend. High yield offense against a terrible running defense. Nobody thought he’d go off like that. But everybody thought he’d get probably 50-60 and a score.
10. PAYDAMAN!!! It would SUCK not to have this guy locked in for a good, long time. I still say that 5/35 with 20 guaranteed would have his Hancock on a piece of paper, especially for the Bears.
11a. I don’t care if it’s the Slack. You don’t do that to anybody. Period. There are SO many other ways to hurt a man than that. That’s just low.
11b. There are at least 5 first year starting QBs this year that I think are legitimate players. There might not be enough teams in the NFL to handle Luck next year! I can only really think of 3 or 4 teams that would WANT to draft Luck next year.
1) The Chargers had a legit shot at the Superbowl some time ago, but that looks like decades ago now. Rivers is probably missing LT and Sproles.
2) I haven’t seen them this year, but “lacking identity” seems a possible cause
3) Of all really bad QBs, Tebow might be the best ever. He’s turning “garbage time” into “Tebow time”.
4) Raiders season was promising, now in just a couple of weeks is descending into another nightmare.
5) I’d be more concerned with a 2 home game losing streak than Stafford being out AGAIN. Plus, I feel the media is starting to turn against them.
6) I thought of hockey scores. And how weird it was that neither of them have an NHL franchise in town.
7) Paper bag time for Colts’ fans.
8) Scary to think he could have padded his numbers a bit more.
9) I had to double check if there was any mistake. Still, any 90yd run pads stats big time.
10) I hope JA already has a contract with a butt-load of zeros waiting for Forte on January. If everyone was performing at his level, he could even give him the contract rolled inside the SB ring.
Lester just for you
Tim Tebow = Concrete Cyanide
Stephen Hawking was paralysed after Mr. T pitied him so hard he was hurled through the air and crashed into an orphanage, killing 50.
nice
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 24, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I just can't let it die.
Stephen Hawking was paralysed after Mr. T pitied him so hard he was hurled through the air and crashed into an orphanage, killing 50.
by Ditkavsworld on Oct 24, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I had to google it
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 24, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Did that make you love it more?
Stephen Hawking was paralysed after Mr. T pitied him so hard he was hurled through the air and crashed into an orphanage, killing 50.
by Ditkavsworld on Oct 24, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
yes
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 24, 2011 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
You're welcome.
Stephen Hawking was paralysed after Mr. T pitied him so hard he was hurled through the air and crashed into an orphanage, killing 50.
by Ditkavsworld on Oct 25, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess 62pts and 5tds
ain’t what it used to be. Even in this list, it’s #7. Against an 0-whatever Colts, that’s still pretty impressive.
not really a ranked list
just random thoughts as they come to me
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 24, 2011 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey
What about our boy Starscream !?
And I thought I’d never see the day where a rookie would break a team record while not even getting the start.
Speaking about impressive rookies, I suppose Chris Conte has earned his spot with the starters.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Oct 24, 2011 4:21 PM CDT reply actions
New Policy
Why the hell is a pic of Tebow the first thing I see on a Bears blog! Let’s make it a policy not too even talk about a should be tight-end.
by BoilermakerNation on Oct 24, 2011 4:23 PM CDT reply actions
Well if you got here earlier it wouldn't have been the first thing you saw today...
You Boilermakers always late to the party…
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 24, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
NFL Thoughts baby!
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 24, 2011 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
RE: Thoughts
1) Chargers giving up 17 unanswered: Football is a game of adjustments. Sometimes as Bear fans we tend to forget this…
2) The Titans had the bye week to prepare for Houston, and still got beat very badly. Looking at their 3 wins, they’ve beaten Denver, Jacksonville, and Baltimore. How the hell did they beat Baltimore…?
3) I doubted Tebow, but the kid has the “it” factor. And I think he just wants to succeed more than most.
4) Carson Palmer hasn’t been that good for a few seasons, so I’m not sure how much he’s going to help anyways…
5) Stafford: Injury to his lower body, so I would say that he’ll probably continue to play as long as it’s not to his throwing shoulder/arm, so I wouldn’t expect the Lions to fold just yet…
6) Browns and Seahawks: Hey, as a Bear fan I can relate to this kinda game!
7) Colts: I get your point, but to what extent does injury risk vs game experience reps help keep those very same players fresh and focused? Letting them get rusty won’t help, but definitely they should treat all injuries a little bit differently. Don’t allow them to play through certain injuries that could causes further trouble down the line.
8) Drew Brees: ridiculous indeed. All the more reason to realize that the Bears have only lost to Rodgers, Brees, and Stafford this season.
9) FF & DeMarco Murray: It doesn’t take a genius…there’s a problem with fantasy football in regards to RBs. Too many leagues have two RB spots, plus a W/R/T spot, which forces teams to horde 5 or more RBs. This causes issues that make it really difficult to find ANY RB that’s going to get some touches. I’m in favor of handling FF RBs the same as team defenses. If you have the Bears RBs, then you get points for ANY rushing production PERIOD.
10) Pay Matt Forte: he is really, really good & I would hate to see him go, but lets not forget that injuries & age are all major factors here. I saw worse case scenario we Franchise TAG him for the next TWO seasons. He’ll make 8 M per year, so I won’t be feeling too sorry for him!
Same way Jags did.
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Tebow is terrible
I watched a lot of the game flipping back and forth between the Bears game. When he missed, which was on almost every throw, he missed his WR by a ton. He and the Broncos were fortunate to recover the onside kick, and benefited from playing the worst team on earth. Neither of those will happen again this season.
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He wasn't terrible the last 5 minutes
He was MONEY!
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 24, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you place a wager on them?
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no
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 24, 2011 8:59 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
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by Steven Schweickert on Oct 27, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah seriously
I don’t see how anybody who’s knowledgeable about football could conclude that Tim Tebow is a better QB than Kyle Orton.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Oct 24, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
funny how the main reason most will point to is
Tebow’s a winner. I remember when that was the Orton excuse.
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 25, 2011 5:54 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
picked up
murray this week, started him in the flex. and that is why im 7-0
at least its hockey season now
Me too; in two leagues.
I was very close to starting him in another but didn’t want to dump one of my WRs.
"All we needed was a ladder, some tennis balls and a timer. My uncle is old-school." - Henry Melton
Tebow mania is at an all time high I guess.
I just never bought into it. I think Cam Newton will become a better QB than Tebow. The team is actually starting to build around him. If the Broncos do this for Tebow he can probably win some games. My advice to them is if you are going to go all in on Tebow, you might want to draft a couple tight ends and play smash mouth. I don’t think he’ll be the kind that can get it done through the air on a consistent basis.
I agree he needs a running game and a great TE
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 24, 2011 10:50 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Tebow will never be a good QB...
he’s a gimmick at best right now. The Broncos beat a bottom feeder in the Dolphins and Tebow was HORRIBLE for the most part. Unless John Fox wants to lose his job by designing an offense around a mobile QB who makes bad decisions and cannot pass accurately (Kordell Stewart) in a pass heavy league, he’s gonna let Tewbow play himself out of a starting role. Cam Newton, much to my surprise, may actually be a McNabb-type QB for a good couple of years if he can continue to develop as a QB. This whole “Tebow just finds a way to win” or “leadership” crap will fade quickly as defenses figure his tendencies out, I expect it to take about 2 weeks. Hopefully he’ll still be starting by the time the Bears see him in Dec. That’ll be an early X-mas present W for the Bears!
As far as Forte….you said it best:
10) Pay Matt Forte. He’s on a historic pace, and he’s an actual, real life, good draft pick by Bears GM Jerry Angelo.
FORTE: PAY THE MAN!
tebow is good for bronco nation
because it gives them something to hope for, i guess. i am really looking forward to when they come to town because it sure looks like a blowout bears victory on paper. i expect a good poster shot of 54 blowing up tebow at some point during the game.
Boy, I sure hope this is the mess hall....how's it goin' Eisenhower?

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