WCG Match-Up Post: Grades and Reviews for Week 4
by Dominique Blanton on Oct 3, 2011 9:00 PM CDT
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Coming into the game the thought was that the Tampa-2 would be the defense that will neutralize Cam Newton, basically because all 11 players have their eyes on the QB. I'm pretty sure Cam heard this going into the game and his performance yesterday made you think he went... Tampa- 2? Meh . Cam made throws and plays out there yesterday that validated some of the espn.com/Chicago writer's points that they would rather have Cam Newton over Jay Cutler right now. Cam shredded the Bears defense for 374 yards 1 passing TD, 2 rushing TD's, and 8 rushes for 35 yards.
Pass Pressure Grade D
The front 4 was non-existent for the 2nd consecutive week. Julius Peppers was pretty much shutdown by Jordan Gross , Carolina interior line shutdown the Bear defensive interior pass rush, and Israel Idonije was non-existent for the 2nd week in a row. Even when the pressure got there they couldn't bring down the 6-5 248 pound QB. If the Bears front 4 can't generate pressure against a Lions offensive line that's below average at best, then there's some cause for concerns.
Pass Coverage Grade F
Steve Smith went H.A.M once again on the Bears secondary. The Bears tired cover 2 zone coverage to keep Cam from connecting to this favorite target and that didn't work mostly due to Brandon Merriweather wanting to freelance in a coverage that doesn't allow you to do that. They tried manning up Tim Jennings on him and he just simply ate him up. They said Steve Smith fell off, but it seems like he just needed a competent QB to get him the ball. The TE's for Carolina also had a good game against the Bears safeties and Linebackers. The Bears desperately need Chris Harris back not only on the field, but at FS because Major Wright and Merriweather so far are not cutting it at that position.
Containment on Newton Grade F
When a QB has a stat line of 8 rushes 35 yards for 2 rushing TD's you simply didn't do a good job containing the QB. Luckily the Bears won't have to face an athlete like Newton until the Monday Night game against the Eagles.
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I disagree with the whole "The offensive line is below average at best."
I think the Lions have done a wonderful job protecting Stafford this year, with the Minnesota game being the only exception. They’ve given up 5 sacks but all in that Minnesota game. Demarcus Ware, the leagues sack leader, had 0 sacks and Stafford had all day to throw in the second half when the game was on the line.
I also believe they were 6th best last year even with only 27 sacks given up. Run blocking is always the concern and is below average, but pass pprotection is actually above average and even good at times. I think we would had more to fear outta Demarcus Ware and company than what the Bears defense had been doing lately. We did pretty good against them, so they need to get out of the funk Julius Peppers says they’re in and play a good game or the Bears will be in the race for 3rd place this year.
But, as good as this division is, all 3 teams could make the playoffs.
From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!
by DLions4Eva on Oct 3, 2011 11:52 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Since when was this an open thread for Lions fans?
It’s a review of the Bears defensive performance versus the Panthers, not a discussion about your team.
I like Stafford, but he’s got the best WR in football to throw to. Or should I say lob to?
"All we needed was a ladder, some tennis balls and a timer. My uncle is old-school." - Henry Melton
Calvin Johnson
Would make even Dilfer look somewhat decent
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Let's
Especially considering Dilferella would need to still throw in his direction.
Three receivers……so only 33% chance he would throw there…take that 33% chance and multiply it by Dilferzilla’s 55% completion rate…….That would be the percentage of likely balls CJ would even have a chance at.
Mulitply by 40 pass attempts…..then minus three picks….and
CJ would still not make Dilt*rd look good.
Cacti are prickly.
by crackedcactus on Oct 4, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Since when have members of WCG not been gracious hosts?
I’m dont post often but I come here nearly everyday. And a big reason for that is because 99% of WCG aren’t meatballs bashing our team or any other team. I’m not saying your meatballing, just that there’s nothing wrong with 4Eva coming over esp considering his team is playing ours this week, he’s been here before and he isn’t trolling now.
And as much as dont want to agree with a Lions fan over a fellow Bears brother, 4Eva has a point. The lions o-line has been very good in pass protection, they just dont get credit nationally or from espn. Probably because Stafford has gotten hurt on sacks (peppers) and cause espn sucks. For what its worth, PFF has the lions o-line rated highly.
by mooseknucks on Oct 4, 2011 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Agreed.
+1
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 4, 2011 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Greened...
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by Steven Schweickert on Oct 4, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
His comment
didn’t really relate to any of the content of this post, and I thought he was at one time kicked off one of our boards not too long ago. Tim, can you confirm?
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DL4E was at one time banned.
Kev unbanned him after a discussion.
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by Steven Schweickert on Oct 4, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Is Kev WCG's aspiring psychologist now?
I hope so, cause I need to talk to him about some private stuff I’m going through. Mostly post-Bears’ games related issues. :)
"All we needed was a ladder, some tennis balls and a timer. My uncle is old-school." - Henry Melton
If the Bears front 4 can’t generate pressure against a Lions offensive line that’s below average at best, then there’s some cause for concerns.
I’d say his comment directly related to this part of the post.
Wars are only truly won through annihilation of the enemy. May our coaches remember that football is war.
by Lionsrmycrack on Oct 4, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Not really all about sacks as QB pressures come into play also.
I think it’s the other way around as Stafford and the receivers have covered up the O-Line flaws. Stafford has done a great job getting the ball out his hands quickly and receivers have done great job getting open.
by Dominique Blanton on Oct 4, 2011 2:34 AM CDT up reply actions
So, your culmative grade is a F+?
How about another F to Angelo for not re-signing DMS? I thought they’d be OK without him, but I was seriously wrong.
"All we needed was a ladder, some tennis balls and a timer. My uncle is old-school." - Henry Melton
by propheteer on Oct 4, 2011 12:43 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I thought that was some of the worst safety play I've have seen in my entire life watching football.
Safe to say that we might see Chris Conte get into the starting line-up sometime this season.
by Dominique Blanton on Oct 4, 2011 2:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it's better to get more out of Meriweather...
and Wright for now. Conte should stick to special teams for now and grow into the position at safety. Afalava, Payne, and even DMS should be examples of what not to do with rookie safeties in this defense. I think the biggest problem is that the Bear’s corners are so bad at man coverage that single high safety and cover 3 are almost completely off the table. Again, bad drafting and talent evaluation has ripple effects across the team.
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Manning played well as a rookie....
And so did Harris. It was bouncing Manning around because the Bears couldn’t replace players at other positions that caused problems for Danieal. Versatility was his fortune and his bane.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 4, 2011 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Lovie has a history
of starting rookie safeties with some decent success. I can’t imagine that Conte would be any worse than what we’ve seen in the first four weeks. Conte is supposed to be pretty darn fast, and can cover a lot of ground. Hopefully he’s learned his lesson on D. Henderson’s long TD pass a few weeks ago.
"All we needed was a ladder, some tennis balls and a timer. My uncle is old-school." - Henry Melton
Manning played OK...
as a rookie and gave up the SB touchdown to P Manning; no relation. I never mentioned Harris because he did/does play well, but he has been the exception in the Lovie era, not the rule. My point is not that Manning was bad, but that performing DMS yet again on Conte is not a good idea. Meriweather has a much smaller learning curve and is a far superior athlete. Let Meriweather grow into a role that he’s much more likely to have success in this year and give Conte a year to learn in limited duty and be ready for next season.
FORTE: PAY THE MAN!
Agreed.
It’s pretty sad when I was hoping to see Craig Steltz replace Major Wright on the field. Hell, I thought it might be worth a shot to send Dom DiCicco back there. He was a safety in college, after all. Anything but Meriweather and Wright.
If Harris ever needed an exclamation point on his argument for a contract, these guys are giving it to him. And Danieal Manning is in Houston right now watching film of the Chicago game and smiling.
Consider this, Steltz has allowed a 158.3 quarterback rating, Wright 156.3 and Meriweather 148.6 with 4 TDs allowed between them with only 1 pass deflected and not INTs. They’ve also proovided nothing when sent on blitz. No sacks, pressures or hits.
Danieal Manning has allowed a 66.7 quarterback rating, no touchdowns and has a deflected pass and an interception while posting 1 QB hit and two pressures and a blocked kick (which he cost the team a TD on with a stupid block, but still, he blocked the kick, lol).
Yeah, letting him go in favor of Wright was smart. I wonder if it’s any coincidence that Harris and Manning started most of 2006 together and all of 2010 together and the Bears made the SB in 06 and the NFC Championship game in ‘10. Between then the Bears gave up an uncharacteristic amount of points in ’07-’09 and are currently tied with the Pats for 22nd in the league in points allowed in ’11 without Harris and Manning on the field. Just a thought.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 4, 2011 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Where did you get those stats from?
FO or PFF maybe?
"All we needed was a ladder, some tennis balls and a timer. My uncle is old-school." - Henry Melton
Yep.
:)
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 4, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Manning has his own selection of Bone Headed Plays
a blocked FG being returned for a TD being called back for an unnecessary block in the back from Manning would have all of us fuming.
Cacti are prickly.
by crackedcactus on Oct 4, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
One boneheaded play that didn't affect the outcome of the game.....
especially when you consider that he blocked the field goal in the first place, wouldn’t bother us nearly as much as the horrible play of those who have replaced him here.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 4, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Thank you and rec’d.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 4, 2011 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, at the time we (and the Bears) thought Major Wright would be ready to slot in. $20M for 4 years seemed like a massive overpay from the Texans at the time; Jerry isn’t the first GM to release an expensive veteran for younger, cheaper talent.
When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm actually putting u between me and an ass.
Maybe not....
But frequency does not erase stupidity. And there were those of us who spoke out against the move from the very start. It wasn’t universally accepted.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 4, 2011 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Only if he's honest....
And according to Greg Olsen, among others, he isn’t. So probably not.
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1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 4, 2011 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I was really looking forward to this season but I'm already beginning to fall back into that...
if we’re not going to win the Super Bowl, let’s really suck so they will finally launch this entire brain trust mode.
I think it’s because as I get older I am less patient with the same stupid moves over and over again.
I'm not ready to launch the Front Office Catapult just yet.
We’re still only 2-2. “So you’re saying there’s a chance…”
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by Steven Schweickert on Oct 4, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
You're right and I keep trying to tell myself that same thing.
But everytime I see other teams’ receivers snatch the ball out of the air between defenders or have one of their starters go down and they don’t miss a beat with the backup, I want to take JA and Lovie and bang their heads together like Moe on the Three Stooges.
This week should tell the story
whether or not the Bears are contenders or pretenders.
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I would rather have the Carolina O-line than Cam Newton
Put Cutler behind a quality OL, and he would be a top QB. Put Newton behind the Bears’ OL, he would be on the DL in no time.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
Put Newton behind the Bears’ OL, he would be on the DL in no time.
True, he’s big and fast and a little light, but he could have potential as a rushing end… though does that premise assume that we still have Cutler at QB?
When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm actually putting u between me and an ass.
by Spongie on Oct 4, 2011 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol...
I think he was refering to the MLB disabled list. And he had the right idea, even if he had the wrong injury list.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 4, 2011 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions
It is baseball postseason, after all. We can forgive MLB on the mind.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 4, 2011 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Agree completely.
Oh, wouldn’t a Jordan Gross be nice? Instead, we go looking for a Carolina offensive linemen and bring in Gate 68.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 4, 2011 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Carolina had it right...
their o-line got better AFTER they rid themselves of Omiyale. Is that addition by subtraction?
FORTE: PAY THE MAN!
Apparently in this case there is.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 4, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to DMS the guy...
I still want to see DJ Moore get more time on the field, maybe even at FS in the offseason. As I’ve been saying since we drafted the kid, he was a really good corner in college and seems to have very good instincts. He has shown he has a knack for making plays on the ball as well. I really think he could excel at the FS slot if given the chance.
I'd be willing to try moving Spice Adams to the FS spot at this point.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Oct 4, 2011 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
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