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Five Questions With: Pride of Detroit - 2nd Edition

Prideofdetroit_mediumSeems like we just did this a couple weeks ago, but certainly a lot has happened for both teams since our last meeting.  Once again, I hooked up with Sean from pride of Detroit for a Q/A session on the upcoming game.  Sean, thanks for your time sir.  Oh, and check out their Q/A post here.

1- Ndamukong Suh has made plenty of headlines lately... Once for having a meeting between Commissioner Goodell to discuss appropriate levels of aggressiveness, and another time for being voted the dirtiest player in the NFL by 111 of his peers. Suh was also ranked the 4th most overrated player in the NFL in that same Poll. From just a statistical standpoint, Suh's production has dropped off a bit from last season (66 tackles/ 10.5 sacks in 2010, and 24 tackles/3 sacks through 8 games in 2011). Is Suh the wrecking ball that he seemed to be last season, or is there a chance that offenses are figuring out ways to neutralize him?

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Sean: I do think Suh has been slowed down a bit by opposing offenses now that there is more tape on him. Last year, he took the NFL by storm and couldn't be stopped by seemingly anybody. This year, he hasn't been quite as good, but then again, he hasn't needed to be. The depth on the defensive line is very good, and now that the Lions actually have a competent secondary, eliminating as many potential passes as possible isn't at a premium. Of course, the hope is Suh will get back to his rookie year ways in the second half of the season, and even Suh himself has said that this week

2- Last time around, you mentioned the Lions running game as somewhat of a concern. Shortly after our Q/A, Jahvid Best ripped off 163 yards and a TD against us. Of course, Best is not expected to play this Sunday due to another concussion a couple weeks ago, but where does this leave the Lions in the running game against a seemingly resurgent Chicago Bears defense?

Sean: It has become clear that the game against the Bears was a fluke in terms of the run game. The Lions are not a good running team, and like you said, Best will probably not play on Sunday. This means Maurice Morris will likely get the start again. In recent weeks he has run for 50 and 58 yards, so don't expect him to do a ton of damage unless the perfect storm of mistakes happens on the same play again like Best's 88-yard touchdown run. The Lions will have to pass the ball to win, which is a concern given it is an outdoor game in Chicago in November.

3- Detroit ranks 3rd in the NFL in points per game (29), right behind Green Bay and New Orleans. They also rank 6th in the league in points allowed (18.4) per game. Coming out of the Bye week, do you see the Lions legitimately having a shot at making a deep run into the playoffs?

Sean: I could certainly see it. The Lions have a great chance to be one of the wild-card teams, even with a tough schedule in the second half of the season. At this point it looks like they would be matched up with the Saints or Giants if they do make the playoffs, and I think a win in the wild-card round is a definite possibility. Is getting past San Francisco or Green Bay realistic at this point? Not really, but at this point I think Lions fans will be happy with simply making the playoffs.

4- Heading into this game, the Bears are 5-3 and the Lions are 6-2. Looking at the final eight weeks of the season, Bears opponents have a 34-32 record (51.5%), and Lions opponents have a 40-27 record (59.7%). What needs to happen to help the Lions make up for that scheduling disadvantage they have against the Bears?

Sean: There's no doubt the Lions' schedule is quite tough going forward. In addition to Sunday's game, the Lions have two games against the Packers, a game against the Saints and games against the Chargers and Raiders still to come. While that could present problems going forward in terms of where they stand in the playoff picture, the important thing right now is to pick up a win on Sunday and take the head-to-head tiebreaker from the Bears. Who knows if it will come into play at the end of the year, but having that tiebreaker would essentially give them an extra game lead over the Bears and give them a nice cushion in the standings.

5- Which of the following rappers/emcees would most-accurately reflect who the Lions are as a team, and why? Ice Cube, Aesop Rock, Jay-Z, Andre 3000, or Method Man?

Sean: I'm going to with a rapper not on that list: Eminem. This is a homer pick in a way since Eminem is from Detroit, but the song "Not Afraid" is a good fit for this Lions team. Despite the players on this team not experiencing much success before this year, and despite them entering uncharted territory with a 6-2 record, this team doesn't seem afraid of anybody. They have a certain swagger to them, and I don't see the Lions backing down from anybody, whether it's the Bears in Chicago or the Packers on Thanksgiving. They were once a great franchise, just as Eminem was once one of the best rappers. Both experienced a down time (obviously the Lions' was much longer), and now Eminem is back on top and the Lions are looking to get back on top as well.

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Thanks again, Sean!

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congrats on your Lions being a way better team this year.

Now that I said that, I just dont see you guys in good enough shape to handle your upcoming schedule. Between your injuries (especially to Best) and the cold months ahead, I just dont see the Lions making it this year. I do foresee them being a strong contender next year though. Good luck anyways, especially at Soldier Field where I predict the Bears will win this one 24 – 17.

How about a Carimi pancake for your A$$

by fortefan09 on Nov 11, 2011 11:00 AM CST reply actions  

NorthLeft said it perfectly over on PoD

“I think these two teams are pretty even across the board. The Lions advantages at WR and DL are offset by the Bears advantage at RB [all Matt Forte] and on Special Teams.
 I think the other units are remarkably even, with a case being made for very small advantages in a few other position groups. I think this game is decided by a field goal…….late.”

I thought that was pretty on the money and I sense a Dogfight. Lucky for Vick he’ll be busy that day.

by NewSchoolLionFan on Nov 11, 2011 11:14 AM CST reply actions  

Don't forget

The Bears advantage at LB, DB, QB and i believe the advantage at OL as well.

Lions do have the Advantage at DL, WR, TE

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by suckmyditka on Nov 11, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Nitpicking

But the Lions DB and Bears DB is probably a wash. Lions have greatly improved their secondary.

by alpo on Nov 11, 2011 11:28 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Also not trying to nitpick.

But I would like to see their OL play a few more games well before I give them the advantage. They haven’t been very pretty before these past 3.

by NewSchoolLionFan on Nov 11, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't worry about it.

Some people don’t know how to behave as mature adults.

by Dane Noble on Nov 11, 2011 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

99% of guys over there are pretty cool.

But just like any place anywhere, you get a few that aren’t.

by NewSchoolLionFan on Nov 11, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I haven't gotten into that article yet.

But it is on PoD which is a site for Lion fans to get pumped up.

by NewSchoolLionFan on Nov 11, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

So then, logically

since this post is on WCG, we should be Bears meatballs and do nothing but talk smack and be insulting.

by Virto on Nov 11, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Well crap.

I guess I have no place here then. :(

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by Steven Schweickert on Nov 11, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Free pass

ShyGuys are welcomed ANYWHERE.

by Virto on Nov 11, 2011 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

He's done a good job of that this year.

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by Steven Schweickert on Nov 11, 2011 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Seriously?

Peppers got a free shot at him because Backus whiffed. I don’t know of a quarterback that would get up after that.

by NewSchoolLionFan on Nov 11, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I know one...

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by Steven Schweickert on Nov 11, 2011 12:06 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

#6

plays for the Bears

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by suckmyditka on Nov 11, 2011 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Gee,

thanks for spelling it out, SMD…

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by Steven Schweickert on Nov 11, 2011 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

In other news

water is wet, the sky is blue, and ThorCo remains a hilariously poor contributor to WCG. There, I’ve reached my ThorCo assault-quota for the week.

If its free, take two.

by T.J. Shouse on Nov 11, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah...well who died and made you the Boss...

………………………….;>:P

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by LostInSTL on Nov 11, 2011 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Since it doesn't matter...

…..you can take it however it strikes you!

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by LostInSTL on Nov 11, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

You know, ThorCo's really been a good sport about being designated the WCG Punching Bag.

He really is becoming more and more like our own Jay Cutler.

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by Steven Schweickert on Nov 11, 2011 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I think I'm going on a ThorCo-insult free diet starting next week

X-mas is around the corner and Santa’s watching. Another piece of coal and I could heat my house for another few minutes, though….

If its free, take two.

by T.J. Shouse on Nov 11, 2011 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Aww, is your heart going to grow three sizes too?

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by Steven Schweickert on Nov 11, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

F no

Its all about the presents. And, I just became his friend on X-box Live and don’t want him sending me messages about how terrible I am.

If its free, take two.

by T.J. Shouse on Nov 11, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

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by ThorCo on Nov 12, 2011 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Great game plan: count on Stafford to get injured.

Completion :
Stafford – 61.2 (15th)
Cutler – 58.7% (24th)

Yards per game:
Stafford – 272 (9th)
Cutler – 239 (18th)

Touchdowns:
Stafford – 19 (4th)
Cutler – 11 (15th)

Interceptions:
Stafford – 4 (T5th)
Cutler – 6 (T12th)

Passer Rating:
Stafford – 99.1 (4th)
Cutler – 85.6 (14th)

TDs/Ints %:
Stafford – 4.75:1
Cutler – 1.83:1

Should I continue? And the real kicker is that Stafford is only about half way through his second NFL season from a games played perspective. And he is only 23.

But I think you’re right, Cutler is the better QB…

by freem109 on Nov 11, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Speaking of Kickers

what’s Hanson’s status?

If its free, take two.

by T.J. Shouse on Nov 11, 2011 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Hanson is expected to play

but the punter, Donahue strained a quadricep while kicking a field goal in practice, and will miss the game.

Lions signed Robert Malone today to cover punts on Sunday.

by Virto on Nov 11, 2011 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Some of that has to be a product of throwing to Megatron, right?

I’m thinking Tavaris Jackson could put up decent stats if you have a guy that routinely makes catches in double and triple coverage. Give Stafford Roy Williams instead and see what that does to the stats.

I don’t know who is better, but there is more to quarterbacking that rankings, and none of these guys do it by themselves.

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by Scully85 on Nov 11, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Good call

Both are good QBs right now, regardless of weapons. Obviously Lions’ fans prefer Stafford>Cutler, and Bears’ fans are pro-Cutler. Stafford has CJ, but he also has Best/nobody in the backfield, Cutler has WMDs (weapons of minor destruction) and Forte, and an iffy-to-decent line.

If its free, take two.

by T.J. Shouse on Nov 11, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Sure, throwing to Calvin definitely helps.

However, Stafford doesn’t have the luxury of having Matt Forte (2nd in rushing yards, 1st in overall yards) in the backfield to help take pressure off of him.

The Lions throw a lot, and defenses know the Lions throw a lot. And still Stafford has been able to put up those stats.

by freem109 on Nov 11, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Forte’s running numbers were more from necessity with having no pass blocking on o-line and no trusted receiver for Jay to throw to. He’s a phenomenal help, but as far as arguing which QB has better passing weapons (ergo more favorable stats), I don’t think Forte contributes as much as CJ

by Beer Down! on Nov 11, 2011 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

this

Cutler is a mediocre QB in this league. He is way overrated on this board but it’s understandable given the Bear’s history of terrible QBs. I love the Bears and live and die with them each week but the biggest mistake of all of Angelo’s mistakes was the trade for Cutler. We gave up way too much for the slight upgrade from Orton.

by mick11 on Nov 11, 2011 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I really like Orton

but I’m sorry, he doesn’t survive 52 sacks, and he doesn’t make those throws that Jay made to Earl on Monday.

I was unhappy with the pickup of Cutler initially, but the more I see of him, the happier I am with the deal.

Cutler isn’t the reason this team has gone from mostly good to sometimes good. The failure of the O line and the weakening of the defense is to blame. Even Grossman was “good” when the line held.

by Virto on Nov 11, 2011 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

It's possible

but given Jerry’s draft success, we’d honestly be more likely to sit here talking about the next Marc Columbo.

With Cutler, we have something to build around. The hope was that we could plug him in and be contenders. As we showed last year, it’s possible, but we aren’t giving him everything he needs to be a success.

Essentially, if Cutler had the time Rex had early in the SB season, it would have seemed like the smartest move we ever made.

by Virto on Nov 11, 2011 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah we gave up too much

for the guy sitting behind Tim FRICKIN TEBLOW

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by T.Moore on Nov 11, 2011 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I believe

he’s referring to the fact that Orton is now behind Tebow on the depth chart. Denver is certainly in a pickle at the QB spot.

Initially I thought giving up Orton and so many picks might have been too much, but based on how denver has been looking, I’m no longer worried about it.

by Virto on Nov 11, 2011 8:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd take you seriously

But all you do is spout out crap without any reasoning to back it up. Do tell how that was such a terrible trade, considering where Denver and Chicago are right now, respectively?

by Midway Bully on Nov 12, 2011 11:57 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Hey, I was as happy as anyone when the Bears traded for him.

I really hadn’t seen him play much but he was highly rated by a lot of “experts”. Now that I’ve watched him play every week, I’ll take our draft picks back. He’s very prone to turnovers especially in the red zone and his numbers are very league average. He’s certainly better than Orton and Grossman but he is nowhere near elite. We paid a price for elite.

by mick11 on Nov 12, 2011 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Very prone to turnovers in the red zone

15-28, 106 yards, 7 TDs and no INTs this year in the red zone. This isn’t 2009.

by Midway Bully on Nov 12, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Thank God!

He stunk it up big time didn’t he?

by mick11 on Nov 12, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, of course.

Because those stats are an indicator of the quarterbacks’ talents alone. Or not. Stats don’t happen in a vacuum. Let CJ get injured and watch what happens to Stafford and your offense. Just consider this: Take away CJ’s stats from Stafford’s and add Devin Hester’s instead. And do the same for Cutler. Here’s what your above stat comparison becomes….(and I’m being sure to be thorough here, including INT targets and targets so I can adjust INTs, attempts and completion percentage. It won’t be perfect, because obviously it changes the dynamics of drives that exist int he real world, but it’s the most accurate reading we can speculate on)

Completions:
Stafford — 57.5
Cutler — 62.5

Yards Per Game:
Stafford — 212
Cutler — 299

Touchdowns:
Stafford — 9
Cutler —21

Interceptions:
Stafford — 3 (Hester hasn’t been the target of an INT, CJ was targeted on 1)
Cutler — 7

Passer Rating:
Stafford — 82.3
Cutler — 103.0

TDs/INTs Ratio:
Stafford — 3
Cutler — 3

That is the difference just your spectacular No. 1 receiver makes over the Bears spectacular return man that they try to make a No. 1 receiver. Switching just those players makes that kind of difference.

Now, I’m not going to call Stafford “meh” or anything like that. Personally, I think he’s a solid young quarterback who hasn’t lived up to the hype but has progressed well enough to add “yet” to the end of the “Hasn’t lived up to the hype” sentence. I wouldn’t have any problems with Stafford being a Bear and I think Lions fans should be proud to call him a Lion. I don’t hold him as accountable for his injury history as many do either. He’s had a lot of bad luck and has worked hard to counter that in the weight room.

But let’s be fair to Cutler here. When he was playing with real receivers and a real offensive line, he put up massive numbers. People tend to think the quarterback is responsible for everything, but without the right tools, Peyton Manning becomes Archie Manning. Still good, but not great.

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Nov 12, 2011 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

I take Megatron out and Stafford, oh my is not so good.

by transylvanian bear on Nov 12, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah he's "Meh"

Not all that good imo but is young and can still develop into a very good Qb…

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by T.Moore on Nov 12, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Jay would

and you’d know it

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by T.Moore on Nov 11, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

He's played every game so far this season.

I’ll hold off saying he’s due to hit the “out” section of the injury report until it happens.

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by Steven Schweickert on Nov 11, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah, Im also saying that if Cutler had Calvin Johnson, it would be no questions asked who the better QB is.

Drew Stanton looked solid when he was backing for them when Stafford was out.

How about a Carimi pancake for your A$$

by fortefan09 on Nov 11, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Not disagreeing there.

It’s a huge difference between Calvin Johnson and the guys we’ve got. But Stafford’s still decent in his own right.

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by Steven Schweickert on Nov 11, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Stafford is a big piece of ...Meh

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by T.Moore on Nov 11, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Nothing I seen screams "Very good"

Just “Meh” to me…Just decent imo

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by T.Moore on Nov 11, 2011 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

It makes him a quarterback with less weapons receiving than Stafford has.

Why are you guys so quick to dismiss weapons quality as a factor in quarterback play?

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by Steven Schweickert on Nov 11, 2011 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

How could they dismiss

Effing MEGATRON!?! I don’t get it

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by T.Moore on Nov 11, 2011 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Sure, throwing to Calvin definitely helps.

However, Stafford doesn’t have the luxury of having Matt Forte (2nd in rushing yards, 1st in overall yards) in the backfield to help take pressure off of him.

The Lions throw a lot, and defenses know the Lions throw a lot. And still Stafford has been able to put up those stats.

by freem109 on Nov 11, 2011 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Forte as a receiving asset is fairly irrelevant!

by Beer Down! on Nov 11, 2011 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

It's fairly relevant,

but a receiver will always be a bigger “primary receiving weapon” than a running back.

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by Steven Schweickert on Nov 11, 2011 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, you guys are essentially playing a spread offense, without the shotgun emphasis.

You throw a lot, but you have one guy that’s gamebreaking and a few others that are pretty good.

Aside from Forte out of the backfield, the Bears have… Bennett? Sanzenwaddle? Kellen Davis?

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by Steven Schweickert on Nov 11, 2011 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

We have Forte, Earl Bennett,

4 WRs who would be #3-4-(one of which is an UDFA) WR on other teams. an Iffy O-line (That is improving lately). And a TE who we rarely use

You guys have, Megatron, Pettigrew, Scheffler, Burleson, and Young. Your franchise built those weapons around Stafford.

While ours realy didn’t build around Jay (talent wise) outside of Tice and Martz actually helping him out.
You put Stafford on this team, he wouldn’t last the year here. You put Jay over there he would be an elite Qb…since you guys throw alot anyway

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by T.Moore on Nov 11, 2011 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I know Earl would be #2

I was talking about Hester, REW, Knox, and Sanzenwaddle

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by T.Moore on Nov 12, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh

And don’t talk crap about Jay here, (For I only said Staff is meh meaning ok for now)

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by T.Moore on Nov 11, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

He's good, but he looks better than he is because of CJ

Put Stafford with the Bears and he’d be in a wheelchair by now.

by NorthSideBearsFan on Nov 11, 2011 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Stafford and Megatron go together.

Calvin has had some pretty ordinary years. His stats have gone up and down depending on his QB. He doesn’t catch everything that’s lobbed in his direction — the QB has to be good enough to get it to him.

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by drgarnett on Nov 11, 2011 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought sports science mentioned a QB has a window of a two car garage to throw to Megatron…now, that is without a defender, or multiple defenders, but it definitely goes to show he is an extremely versatile athlete to throw the ball to.

by Beer Down! on Nov 11, 2011 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

His stats really haven't gone up and down, and it doesn't matter who the QB is, he will put up yards

Aside from the his first year, he’s had a 1000 yards receiving every year (didn’t have a thousand in 09, but he was a catch away from the mark), and that with some injury issues hampering him. The guy had 1300 yards in the 0-16 ’08 season with the likes of Orlovsky and Culpepper throwing the ball to him, and that was his best year statistically.

Now with a decent QB like Stafford, he’s making even more of it.

by Midway Bully on Nov 12, 2011 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

HAPPY Veterans day to all the US military. Keep kicking ass. We love you and are very proud of everything you do for us

Now on to my question….

Are the 49ers that good? Or have the Lions fallen off a bit since beating the Bears.

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by suckmyditka on Nov 11, 2011 11:21 AM CST reply actions  

Combination of 49ers being better than the fans were expecting them to be (not ready to speak for the actual team/staff) and the Lions playing far worse than they’re capable of, particularly Stafford.

by GM26 on Nov 11, 2011 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for the shout out to Veterans

Retired last yr after 20.

Yes, the49ers are a good team. I would use they word solid to describe them. Thay do a lot of things good, and play complete games in all 3 phases.
As, for my beloved Lions, they really haven’t dropped off a whole lot. They left a few plays on the field during the two losses.
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by seabeeruss on Nov 11, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

You too brother

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by suckmyditka on Nov 11, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

This is going to be a pivotal game for both teams...

the winner, IMO, gets the #5 seed. The loser fights for the #6 spot with the Lions’ loss to the Falcons being their weakness and the Saints loss being the Bears’ weakness. I just don’t see the Cowboys winning enough games to be relevant and the Eagles are done! That leaves the Falcons/Saints as the only other NFC teams to have a shot since the Bucs lose the tie breakers to the Bears/Lions. In the end, I see the Lions and Bears both in the playoffs either way! Now it’s time to go wipe that smug ass smile of Aaron Gyllenhaal’s face as he watches the SB from home this year!

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by LostInSTL on Nov 11, 2011 1:51 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

This ^

Golden! And rec’d.

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Nov 12, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

There will be another Smacktalk open thread this Saturday Night at 9pm central

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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 11, 2011 2:24 PM CST reply actions  

Smack talk is a good thing

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