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2011 Week 12: Chicago Bears at Oakland Raiders Pre-Game Open Thread

We've got a very busy day for you today, what with the Early Game, then the BEARS at Raiders, and then a night game where Pittsburgh will, most likely absolutely destroy the Kansas City Chiefs

Look after the jump where we have some links for you, some sexy pictures, the reason Suh got himself ejected, and a seminal song. Otherwise, your early game thread goes up at noon CT, Bears thread at 3pm CT, and nighty-night thread around 7. Have a good night.

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Bears-Raiders matchups - The Sun-Times hooks you up with their view of the game.

Bears could hold Devin Hester out on offense again - I don't think it did much to hold the offense back last week, so I'm not sure it's going to hurt this week. Rather he get healthy.

Nuts & Bolts: Bears-Raiders - ESPNChi has some ideas for the brass tacks of this game.

Week 12: NFC Wild Card Watch - Some really handsome guy wrote this earlier this week.

STEVEN'S THREE KEYS (Well, six, technically, but whatever)

Three Keys Against the Raiders: Offense
Three Keys Against the Raiders: Defense

Erik Walden of Green Bay Packers arrested on complaint of domestic battery, reports say - If true...that's bad.

Denver Broncos' Tim Tebow agrees with John Elway, says he must improve - Yes, he should probably do something about the WORST THROWING MECHANIC I HAVE EVER SEEN.

The Hester Conundrum - Moon Mullin has some thoughts on what, exactly, you can do with Hester.

Chicago Bears' Sucker route gives new quarterback Caleb Hanie options - Matt Bowen is here to straight drop knowledge in your mouth.

In case you didn't see it, here's what dumbass did to get himself kicked out of the Packers/Lions Thanksgiving game:

Here's a hot picture for the fellas:

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And here's a sexy picture for the ladies:

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Here's some tunage to set the scene for the day:

Or if you like it a little heavier, here's an alternate version:

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And for the cherry on top:
@AdamSchefter: Lions DT Ndamukong Suh is expected to be suspended at least two games.

Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.

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by Kev H on Nov 27, 2011 9:33 AM CST reply actions  

YESSSS

Screw him.

Release the kracken!
Formerly J.Thompson, give it up for the boys in blue; USAF.
Tweet for more burning squirrels

by Jack's Elsewhere on Nov 27, 2011 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Not enough.

Fat Albert got 5 games for basically the exact same thing.

by Doshi on Nov 27, 2011 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Not really

Haynesworth went to the head. The arm, while bad, is not quite as bad as the head.

Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.

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by Kev H on Nov 27, 2011 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

well haynesworths was worse

Stomped on a dudes head and face without a helmet, guy even needed stitches I think. But IMO Suh should get three games, and haynesworth should have been banned from the NFL and thrown in prison for assault and battery.

May the Oline hold, May Cutler not get sacked into oblivion, may Urlacher break some legs, and may they come to their senses and pay Forte. AMEN.

by Jessica312 on Nov 27, 2011 10:14 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Any word on a fine?

May the Oline hold, May Cutler not get sacked into oblivion, may Urlacher break some legs, and may they come to their senses and pay Forte. AMEN.

by Jessica312 on Nov 27, 2011 10:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

outstanding

If I were an idiot I’d say that his suspension is just karma for the way some tool Lion fans act

When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 27, 2011 10:21 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Suspend his dumb ass for the remainder or 2011.

Being a meatball not only makes me delicious, but it also makes me all warm inside.

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Nov 27, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

BS

He lied about it afterwards…Fuck you Goodell

My name is T-Hagane, Leader of the Guardian Force and a big Bears fan... I have advice....If you're a Lions fan...I'll get Liam Neeson on you.

by T.Moore on Nov 27, 2011 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

my sunday has been made...

as long as buckman isn’t covering the game

by BOBdaBEAR on Nov 27, 2011 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

This.

Release the kracken!
Formerly J.Thompson, give it up for the boys in blue; USAF.
Tweet for more burning squirrels

by Jack's Elsewhere on Nov 27, 2011 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Should be

Albert, Johnston, Siragusa.

Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.

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by Kev H on Nov 27, 2011 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Yay Sevendust!

And yay for Suh being suspended! And yay for football Sunday! Git er done, Caleb!

May the Oline hold, May Cutler not get sacked into oblivion, may Urlacher break some legs, and may they come to their senses and pay Forte. AMEN.

by Jessica312 on Nov 27, 2011 10:01 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Here Here!!

Saw Sevendust in concert along with Avenged Sevenfold…was one of THE best concerts I’ve ever seen…Yay Sevendust!!

by Charlie129 on Nov 27, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Ive seen avenged, they were really good

I would love to see sevendust in concert

May the Oline hold, May Cutler not get sacked into oblivion, may Urlacher break some legs, and may they come to their senses and pay Forte. AMEN.

by Jessica312 on Nov 27, 2011 12:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Sevendust opened up for Avenged

and Three Days Grace also played in between. But, nobody seemed to know Sevendust! But loved the opening of Avenged…the Nightmare Concert…did you see that one?

by Charlie129 on Nov 27, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, they opened with the hanging dummy, right?

Saw that one. Also have seen Three Days Grace. I love rock concerts :)

May the Oline hold, May Cutler not get sacked into oblivion, may Urlacher break some legs, and may they come to their senses and pay Forte. AMEN.

by Jessica312 on Nov 27, 2011 12:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yes! But, it's not

a dummy, it’s an actual guy hanging there! What a blast! Rock Concerts Rule!! Now I just gotta get to a Bears Game!!

by Charlie129 on Nov 27, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

haha yeah

Last time I was at a Bears game in person I was just a toddler.

May the Oline hold, May Cutler not get sacked into oblivion, may Urlacher break some legs, and may they come to their senses and pay Forte. AMEN.

by Jessica312 on Nov 27, 2011 12:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

But at least

you can say you were there!!! That’s still cool!

by Charlie129 on Nov 27, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

No matter what happens today

The suit Daryl Johnston wears is sure to be a classic.

Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.

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by Kev H on Nov 27, 2011 10:07 AM CST reply actions  

Who got MADDEN 12 for PS3?

"THE TIME TO WIN IS NOW" - Coach Hue Jackson

Raider Nation..........we need all hand's on deck or get the hell off the ship! That's the way it's gonna be around here from now on! If trading away a couple of first round draft picks can get you a proven franchise quarterback like Carson Palmer and a legitimate shot at going to the playoffs, then fine...............you know why? Because this team is standing behind it's motto & legacy, "Just Win Baby!" and "Commitment to Excellence" instead of "Suck for Luck" & "Give Up". Imagine if you were a fan of a team that actually bought into that!?!

Cheers,

- Saint

http://sportsnspacetalk.freeforums.org/

by The MoonMan 804 on Nov 27, 2011 10:20 AM CST reply actions  

awesome LL song

When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 27, 2011 10:23 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

Wild Prediction

Getting frustrated at a slow start by the raiders john madden, kenny stabler and bo jackson huddle together during a commercial break. After the break they are seen on the sidelines with no sign of hue jackson, michael bush, or carson palmer……They immediately step in to take an early lead behind bo jacksons 185 yards rushing and 3 TDs and kenny stablers incredible bootleg plays and john maddens brilliant play calling…..

Frustrated that martz has fallen back into his old ways with no Cutler around Hanie gets sacked 9 times at the half….. Hanie is heard saying "Tell martz I said fuck you PAL!"…….Upset martz orders Cutler in at LT and Omiyale in at WR….Cutler with a club on his hand has a probowl style game due to his aggressive poutiness……As does Omiyale due to his hard work on yards after contact he has 12 catches for 140 yards and 2 TDs….As time is expiring Forte has a nice 45 yard run that can set up the game winning FG….However Gould is seen on the sidelines sharing a 12 pack of Miller Lite with janikowski….Omiyale decides to take matters into his own hands and runs out to attempt a 52 yard FG hitting it with time expiring…..Bears win 41 – 39…..

I want history to erase their every achievement.....I want them to feel the disgust in the red sox fans eyes when they look on them in shame....

- Theo Epstein on Larry Lucchino and John Henry

by CloudyFuture on Nov 27, 2011 10:31 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

I'm really diggin' the hot pic for the Fellas... Scarlett?

Predict a Bears win 448 to 6.

Being a meatball not only makes me delicious, but it also makes me all warm inside.

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Nov 27, 2011 10:32 AM CST reply actions  

My immediate instinct was to start to chuckle when I saw the pic for the ladies wasn’t of some young strapping fellow… then I realised it was da coach, and suddenly felt envious.

When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm actually putting u between me and an ass.

by Spongie on Nov 27, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

in a lot of ways, it’s more of a unisex sexy picture.

Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.

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by Kev H on Nov 27, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

No Bears game for me today

wife demands I play SWTOR with her…Ah well…..Have fun everybody…..

I want history to erase their every achievement.....I want them to feel the disgust in the red sox fans eyes when they look on them in shame....

- Theo Epstein on Larry Lucchino and John Henry

by CloudyFuture on Nov 27, 2011 10:35 AM CST reply actions  

(*bends a knee and thanks the cosmos for being single*)

"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

by CurtisEnisFan on Nov 27, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

LOL. Though we're not all like that

If I were married I’d be dragging the hubby to BDubs to watch the game. That’s where I’m headed anyway! :-)

May the Oline hold, May Cutler not get sacked into oblivion, may Urlacher break some legs, and may they come to their senses and pay Forte. AMEN.

by Jessica312 on Nov 27, 2011 10:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You get OTHER benefits for being married though.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Nov 27, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

This.

"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

by CurtisEnisFan on Nov 27, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, well it is inescapeable anyway. One's ma will nag one so, might as well pile it on and get said benefits. lol

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Nov 27, 2011 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

i wear the pants! if football is on whoever is playing, i get to watch it. minds, when no footabll she watches what she wants

by stepeo on Nov 27, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

On the next episode of

The Days of Stepeo’s Life

Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.

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by Kev H on Nov 27, 2011 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

we are currently saying words ( she just saw my post)

by stepeo on Nov 27, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

You finally got in!?

Congrats :)

Release the kracken!
Formerly J.Thompson, give it up for the boys in blue; USAF.
Tweet for more burning squirrels

by Jack's Elsewhere on Nov 27, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Awesome, finally something,…waiting for awhile here.

by transylvanian bear on Nov 27, 2011 10:40 AM CST reply actions  

Thayer and Mully both predicted the Bears to lose.

I still don’t get this. Even without Cutler, the Bears are still a better all around team. Raiders are 31st in the league in ypg against and they are really banged up. The most damning evidence against the Raiders is that….well, they play in the AFC West! Why are people so frightened of this team?

"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

by CurtisEnisFan on Nov 27, 2011 10:44 AM CST reply actions  

Because they have solid running game

and their passing game continues to improve as their new quarterback becomes more familiar. Plus it’s hard to make the the trip to the west coast and win. Plus Caleb Hanie is starting at quarterback. Plus the Raiders defensive line is getting sacks like they’re going out of style. Plus the offensive line still sucks. Plus the universe isn’t inclined to let the Bears pick up this game. Plus….

Well, you get the idea.

Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.

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by Kev H on Nov 27, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Re Passing Game: The wideouts are banged up, and the starting lineup of Housh and DHB doesn't scare me...sorry. Re: Protection, if we run the ball against the 31st ranked ypc rush defense successfully, that alleviates a large portion of pass pro woes.

Plus, Hanie has been in the system, has bore the brunt of Martz’s scorn, is athletic, and showed a pension to step up in big moments.

Plus, the cryptkeeper is gone. Therefore the Bears will not feel that intimidating scowl from the suites.

"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

by CurtisEnisFan on Nov 27, 2011 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Sorry if I sound like a homer, but I the collective attitude was not-so eerily similar against the Eagles, the Bolts, and the Bucs.

Everyone piled-up reasons why the Bears shouldn’t win.

"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

by CurtisEnisFan on Nov 27, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

You don't ride the

“Bears play better with no respect” train?

Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.

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by Kev H on Nov 27, 2011 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Well Urlacher says it, so it must be true!

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Nov 27, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

No lol.

"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

by CurtisEnisFan on Nov 27, 2011 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Not grammar, strictly speaking…

When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm actually putting u between me and an ass.

by Spongie on Nov 27, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

It has a wide mandate

like a federal grand jury with a special prosecutor

by torch on Nov 27, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

More vocabulary, really.

When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm actually putting u between me and an ass.

by Spongie on Nov 27, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

i could not find any plusses

by stepeo on Nov 27, 2011 10:55 AM CST reply actions  

this game is winnable. we are solid in defense, and Hanie has been in this system.We need this as a win (if we don’t i get grief from quite a few raider rednecks

by stepeo on Nov 27, 2011 11:04 AM CST reply actions  

This is the game where Hanie makes a name for himself

Hanie will come in, throw 3 TDs, 1 INT and 320 yards. Tomorrows headlines will be asking if he is the next big thing (see Brady and Rodgers beginning days). We then trade Hanie and someone else for Andre Johnson to the Houston Texans so they dont have to start Leinart, and when Cutler returns he has the best target in the game…..
……….and then I woke up.

GO BULLS AND BLACKHAWKS!

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Nov 27, 2011 11:08 AM CST reply actions  

I like how there are no trade deadlines

in your dream world.

Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.

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by Kev H on Nov 27, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Today I learned...

Keyshawn watches Lindsay Lohan movies.

by lmfsilva on Nov 27, 2011 11:14 AM CST reply actions  

I've watched Lindsay Lohan movies.

Mean Girls is really funny.

Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.

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by Kev H on Nov 27, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Well she was sorta hot back then AND Megan Fox was in that one too.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Nov 27, 2011 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

she was VERY hot in that one...

Every other time I’ve seen her its been meh…
Plus I had no clue Megan Fox was in that movie might have to give it a second view.
Purely for research purposes of course.

Wildcard BITCHES!!! Yeee-haaaaaw!!

by Cason211 on Nov 27, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Marcus Allen just said Matt Forte is "underutilized". Does anyone agree, seeing that he is like 40 some odd percent of our offense?

"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

by CurtisEnisFan on Nov 27, 2011 11:16 AM CST reply actions  

Marcus sees himself in Matt. Almost like a nephew lost at birth.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Nov 27, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Jay Glazer reports

That lions players had a sitdown with Suh and basically chewed his ass royally. Kinda awesome to picture the scene. Although i’d rather they didn’t so I could watch the lions meltdown happen all season long.

Wildcard BITCHES!!! Yeee-haaaaaw!!

by Cason211 on Nov 27, 2011 11:23 AM CST reply actions  

someone tell David to do an OSS

Lions intervention

When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 27, 2011 11:30 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Office of Strategic Services?

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Nov 27, 2011 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

One 'Shop Stop

Linky linky

When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 27, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I wonder how many posters on WCG would say we need him

/shudder

Release the kracken!
Formerly J.Thompson, give it up for the boys in blue; USAF.
Tweet for more burning squirrels

by Jack's Elsewhere on Nov 27, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Jay Cutler is a fucking terrible teammate.

Per Chris Mortensen

#Bears QB Jay Cutler has flown himself to Bay Area to join teammates and support Caleb Hanie in start vs. #Raiders today, per team source.

Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.

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by Kev H on Nov 27, 2011 11:35 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah and a horrible leader! He doesn't lead by example either!

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Nov 27, 2011 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

How dare he not play with a broken thumb!

Staff infection is playing with a broken finger and he’s elite!

Release the kracken!
Formerly J.Thompson, give it up for the boys in blue; USAF.
Tweet for more burning squirrels

by Jack's Elsewhere on Nov 27, 2011 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Boom!

FauxJohnMadden Faux John Madden
Makes sense it was probably hard to hitchhike RT @mortreport: #Bears QB Jay Cutler has flown himself to Bay Area to join teammates

by lmfsilva on Nov 27, 2011 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Well I think dat da rest of da Bears must all really hate Cutler, an’ dat’s why dey didn’t let him onna plane an’ dat’s why he had to catch a flight by himself.

When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm actually putting u between me and an ass.

by Spongie on Nov 27, 2011 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

every week i am more proud to have Jay

And I’ve always been proud. Even when the picks were overflowing the cup, I knew his
potential and knew he’d soon be great.

Wildcard BITCHES!!! Yeee-haaaaaw!!

by Cason211 on Nov 27, 2011 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Boom....

NotJayCutler NotJayCutler
Best of luck to @CalebHanie12 today, but that doesn’t mean my car is going to wash itself.

by frenchbears113 on Nov 27, 2011 11:42 AM CST reply actions  

I don't know who runs the notjay twitter account but I think I love whoever it is

LMAO

May the Oline hold, May Cutler not get sacked into oblivion, may Urlacher break some legs, and may they come to their senses and pay Forte. AMEN.

by Jessica312 on Nov 27, 2011 12:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Cowher just said the Bears should make the playoffs

Hmm..

Release the kracken!
Formerly J.Thompson, give it up for the boys in blue; USAF.
Tweet for more burning squirrels

by Jack's Elsewhere on Nov 27, 2011 11:48 AM CST reply actions  

Also, it says 2 games minimum for Suh

Possibility there might be more. I called it that it would be 2, and a large fine. Guess there probably won’t be a fine since he’ll miss those paychecks.

by Midway Bully on Nov 27, 2011 11:49 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

not that many games on the docket that overly important

guess I have to root for the Vikings. Ugh, it hurt to type that. The fact that it is them will prevent me from being ecstatic at the end of that game one way or another.

48 minutes of intensity

by dsenchi on Nov 27, 2011 11:52 AM CST reply actions  

under

"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

by CurtisEnisFan on Nov 27, 2011 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

under... for sure

Wildcard BITCHES!!! Yeee-haaaaaw!!

by Cason211 on Nov 27, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Looks like the majority of Palmer's receiving corps will be out

Hopefully Hanie and this offense will step up and rally for Cutler to make the playoffs.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Nov 27, 2011 12:52 PM CST reply actions  

Yes, I'd know that first hand

since I’ve got a few of them sitting on my fantasy football bench! ARG!

by Charlie129 on Nov 27, 2011 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I think today

Will show how great of a team they truly are. How many teams ATT do you think can remain competitive with a back-up QB?

As always, BEAR DOWN!

by Beer Down! on Nov 27, 2011 1:21 PM CST reply actions  

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