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The Bears are sitting at 7-7 with the slimmest of chances at a wildcard spot. Even Chicago head coach Lovie Smith said the top priority right now is winning their 8th game. Even if the Bears win out, they'd need help from too many other teams to get them in the playoff tournament. I don't care if you're the most optimistic Bears fan on the planet, you have to see that the season is over. And since the season is over, they may as well get Nathan Enderle a couple games of NFL experience under his belt. But not just Enderlee, I say if a player has an expiring contract and the Bears don't factor them into the 2012 plans, then there's no point in playing them. They have to see what they have for next season.

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I'm a big proponent for playing the kids as soon as the playoff chances are out the window. And by kids, I mean getting reps for anyone that is in the plans for next year. I understand the flip side argument that it's not fair to the veterans on the roster. That it essentially throws up the white flag on the season, and the coaches owe it to the vets to go for the win and to play the players that give them the best chance for winning. And to that argument I say Poppycock.

The NFL is a business. The players understand that, and as much as it sucks to give your all to a team only to see them throw some rookie out there for on the job training, the coaches don't owe anyone a damn thing. Unless the ownership has laid down a win at all costs mandate, they have to play with an eye towards next year at this point.

Khalil Bell is set to be a restricted free agent, so get him more touches to see if he should have a deal for 2012.

Zack Bowman's contract will expire after this season. Is he in the plans? If so get him in the game as much as possible at corner, but if the Bears have seen enough of him, then he shouldn't see the field unless they need a body.

Kellen Davis is a 2012 free agent, has his blocking improved enough to stick around next year? Are the Bears seriously considering a change at offensive coordinator? If so is Davis flexible enough to fit into a different system?

I'm just a realist. I don't need to see Brian Urlacher out there for every defensive snap for this '11 team. The Bears may as well get rookie Dom DeCicco some actual defensive reps at middle linebacker. Let him get some time in the middle so the Bears can break down the film on his play, because there's a hell of a difference in looking good for the scout team versus real game NFL speed. Just ask Caleb Hanie. And remember last year it was Todd Collins that impressed in practice. Yucky...

And sticking with the linebackers, does Jabara Williams project to the weak side or the strong side OLB? Get him some reps asap. I put Lance Briggs in the same boat as Urlacher, I really don't need to see him out there banging heads in a season going nowhere. Sit him, and Nick Roach down for a series here and there, for Williams and Patrick Trahan.

Nathan Enderle's deal has him signed through 2014, and while I doubt he's going to be the #2 next year, the Bears need to see if the game will overwhelm him. Live with his rookie mistakes for these next two games, and they'll have a better idea what they have in him.

Corey Graham has been an impressive special teamer, and he looked solid filling in at nickleback, but if the Bears don't plan on resigning him then he shouldn't see the field on defense the rest of the year.

Can Levi Horn get some tackle reps? If the Bears pick their spots with him, and don't put him out there against a dominant pass rusher in an obvious passing situation then they should be able to get a look at him.

As much as I like Israel Idonije, and I don think the Bears shoudl bring him back, he's 31 an din the last year of his deal. Get Corey Wottoon some reps at DE. Get Chauncey Davis some more time.

The Bears may have already made a call on free agent to be Tim Jennings. He lost some playing time in the last game. If he ain't in the plans, then don't play him on D.

Does Brandon Merriweather really have a future in Chicago? I don't see him sticking around next year, so how about giving some p.t. to Winston Venable?

Rookie Stephen Paea should continue getting plenty of reps at DT. And if they come at the expense of some of the veteran defensive tackles on the roster, then so be it. Regarding the young DTs, decide who they need more film on and get them in those game situations.

The receiver situation got a little shakier with the Johnny Knox injury, but is there any reason the Bears need to keep parading Roy Williams out there? He's playing on a 1 year deal, and I'd rather see them promote some practice squad kid into some of the X WR reps, than see Williams out there wasting time.

I know I missed a few players, but I'm sure you get the gist of it. The more they can evaluate their own guys the better prepared they'll be heading into the draft and free agency. Now if Jerry Angelo and his team of scouts can actually pull off a great off-season is another story entirely.

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Definitely need to try and expand the roles

of some of the young guys – not necessarily to see what they do, but to prepare them for next year. Sanzenbacher will see more reps, Bell and Barber should be getting 30-35 carries for the next two games whether Enderle plays or not (and he should), and the plethora of defensive youngsters need to see some time as well. I hope to see Graham back, personally, on a new 2-yr deal, along with Okoye for 2-3 years.

If its free, take two.

by T.J. Shouse on Dec 20, 2011 11:09 AM CST reply actions  

Bears poor at player development

The Bears have not been so good at player development. This would be a great opportunity to get the young guys some real game experience and collect some realtime data to assess their value during the off season. There were a few games this season and last season when the Bears were ahead enough in the 4th quarter to give Haney a chance to grow with a healthy Cutler available to bail him out if necessary. Try Enderle would be worth a shot. My biggest worry is that he is not mobile enough for the Bears porus O-line.

by Sirbrek on Dec 20, 2011 10:31 PM CST up reply actions  

You hit the nail on the head

The Bears have been disturbingly bad at developing players they draft. How many times has it happened that a Bears draftee goes elsewhere after a rookie contract and excels in his new location!? Now this may be due to the new team being better at developing him or simply using the player to his strengths and in proper roles… both are bad indictments against our front office and coaches. I’ve been calling for a change away from JA for a long time.

We also have a bad record at drafting people too high and then they fail expectations… not always because they’re not good enough but because we thought too highly of them. It should be other way around… look at the elite teams in the NFL, yes they have superstars but they have mid/late-round picks contributing quite a bit as starters…

by Hellsedge on Dec 21, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Honestly right now

Enderle probably gives the Bears the best chance to win… I mean… Could he possibly be any worse than Hanie? (yes he could be Collins), but from what I’ve seen of Enderle in college he’s a great talent who could have gone in the 2nd or 3rd rounds if it wasn’t for him being slow as molasses , though I’m not sure if he’s Peyton Manning slow.

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by suckmyditka on Dec 20, 2011 11:16 AM CST reply actions  

It's the slow as molasses thing that worries me

with this line play, he’s going to be killed. At least Hanie is capable of running from time to time.

by Virto on Dec 20, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, but sometimes it seems like Hanie causes that problem himself

by hanging on to the ball too damn long. I want to know if Enderle can make quick decisions and how good his release is.

by oripunk3485 on Dec 20, 2011 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Same with McCown, at least he can move

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by JoeCB1991 on Dec 20, 2011 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd rather see Peppers play Qb then the clown. Unless we make him dress as a clown while playing QB.

That way I can laugh at the TV while the Bears offense loops inept.

If you buy tickets at Soldier Field, you might actually get some entertainment out of that too. You could pretend it’s the clown portion of a circus act.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Dec 20, 2011 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I live in Arizona so that isn't possible

Watching this on TV is enough of a Christmas gift to me….

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by JoeCB1991 on Dec 20, 2011 10:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Leave Hanie alone you meanie...

Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf

by tfrabotta on Dec 20, 2011 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

Yes.

I mean, there’s rationale to keep a majority of the starters in the first half. If we can compete with GB (wait, did I say that?)… Might as well.

But I’d still like to see DiCicco in there, I’d like to see Merriweather Starting. Enderle, or Josh McCown coming into the game in the second half if Hanie puts up a stinker.

Reduce some of Peppers snaps too, while you’re at it.

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Dec 20, 2011 11:20 AM CST reply actions  

McClown is not in the plans for next year.

Why he’s here this year is beyond me too. I’d start the kid too. Let’s see what he’s made of against the best.

by mick11 on Dec 20, 2011 5:18 PM CST up reply actions  

The cheese will never be the best.

Simply due to being from GB. They merely got lucky. Lots of Times.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Dec 20, 2011 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I absolutely agree with your post, but...

On an off topic – How many Williams do we have on the Bears? Is there a record for the number of players with the same last name? Do the Bears lead the league in at least that one stat? There’s Edwin, Chris, Roy, Jabara,… anyone else?

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by NormalFan on Dec 20, 2011 11:25 AM CST reply actions  

Serena looks like she could catch a football in the middle of a crowd...

Then deliver some punishment on those that try and take her down. I mean, her legs look like tree trunks…

by Doshi on Dec 20, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

She can't signal first down

even if it only happens 5 times all year

by Rainman9856 on Dec 20, 2011 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with playing the younger players BUT

May want to bring Enderle into the game in the second half after Green Bay has a lead and coasting. I don’t want his confidence destroyed.

Why would a Bear fan type such ? We haver no real weapons on offense at the moment.

I would like nothing better than to destroy Green Bay, but may have to settle for seeing Enderle in the 2nd half as excitement on Christmas night.

by Fowl Balls on Dec 20, 2011 11:55 AM CST reply actions  

Right as usual on all points.

Although there is one upside to keeping Roy Williams out there – he can get a little more practice at defending himself from the “big brown thing” that keeps trying to attack him.

by oripunk3485 on Dec 20, 2011 12:04 PM CST reply actions  

lol

Yeah, the “big brown thing” is pretty scary!

by JimmyMack on Dec 20, 2011 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with you 100%

And I would be 100% shocked ! if Enderle starts. Or any of the players you mentioned for that matter. I don’t see Urlacher and Briggs sitting out, either. I’ll bet that a lot of them want to play and win and are hoping to extend the season.

As much as I would really like to see the question marks at different positions get some PT, I don’t think it’ll happen. More than anything else, it doesn’t seem like Lovie’s style. I hope I’m wrong.

by Skags on Dec 20, 2011 12:09 PM CST reply actions  

I'd like to see Enderle start too, just because Hanie is historically and embarrasingly bad.

Other than that, I’d play all the starters against Green Bay. The Bears owe it to the league and us fans to play out the string.

by mick11 on Dec 20, 2011 5:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I 100% agree with this

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by Joeb'n777 on Dec 20, 2011 12:11 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I don’t care if you’re the most pessimistic Bears fan on the planet, you have to see that the season is over.

Pessimistic Bears fan thought the season was over before it begun. Optimists would be coming to that realization, right?

As much as I would like to see this happen, I doubt it will. As a business, you don’t invest in something to have it sit around and look pretty. You invest in something to use it. Julius Peppers becomes a $90 million dollar lawn ornament so we can see other possibilities? I can’t see Lovie or J.A. taking such a non-conservative route….

As a (die-hard) fan, I want to see strength and weakness of players that the Bears and I know less about(given the circumstance). At the same time, I feel that I am in the minority that would watch a Bears team that is not playing to win. It seems like this big of a move(scrapping a season) could have a lot of negative consequences on any fanbase.

Maybe not. Maybe Bears nation feels like you and . Bears need to get the young guns in games to know who should have a future with this organization, and who is waiver fodder…

by Beer Down! on Dec 20, 2011 12:18 PM CST reply actions  

Remember....JA has "supposed" talent evaluations.

He gets to pick who makes the roster. Sadly.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Dec 20, 2011 6:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't forget that Lovie also has a huge say in who makes the roster and which players to go after.

I’m not letting Angelo off the hook because I think he’s terrible at his job, but Lovie has proven to be just as inept at judging and/or developing talent.

I don’t see the Bears’ situation changing with this group. After 7 & 10 years, they’re just not going to wake up “smart” after this season. I’d be all for dumping the entire group and starting from scratch, which I doubt the McCaskeys will do, so as an alternate plan I’d dump the front office staff from Phillips on down and take away the personnel input from Lovie. Put a proven talent evaluator in charge of football operations (a Parcells type) and put the coaching staff on a very short leash to develop and utilize their talent better.

by BearFan611 on Dec 21, 2011 7:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Might as well start Enderle given that McCown nor Hanie will be expected back next season

Yet I still don’t understand why Lovie isn’t placing Cutler on IR. Is this suspicious to anyone else?

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 20, 2011 12:19 PM CST reply actions  

And he shouldn't

Because the season isn’t technically lost yet. A coach can’t just “pack it in” as long as the playoffs are still a possibility, however remote that possibility is (and it’s an extremely remote possibility).

by dm1982 on Dec 20, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Unless he needs a roster spot he doesn't have to.

If somehow there is a Christmas miracle that carries into week 17 then maybe, just maybe he could see the field in the playoffs. Same for Forte.

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by Pete Dixon on Dec 20, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

That is, again, if Cutler isn't already back to playing on Christmas

Apparantly Cutler is wearing nothing over his repaired thumb, and mentioned an “outside chance” at returning to face the Packers. And Lovie has not made a commitment as to who will start at QB this week. I guess tomorrow will present an indication as to who will start at QB.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 20, 2011 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't expect to see Jay play another down this year.

But if he is able to go against GB I would have a severe case of the happys even if he’s practicing unsafe thumb.

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by Pete Dixon on Dec 20, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Practicing unsafe thumb

leads to Bad QB Syndrome and produces Caleb Hanies.

Remember kids, practice safe thumb.

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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 20, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

When Martin Luther nailed his protest up to the church door in fifteen-seventeen,

he may not have realized the full significance of what he was doing, but four hundred years later, thanks to him, Jay can wear whatever he wants on his ailing digit.

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by Pete Dixon on Dec 20, 2011 3:33 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I'd like to see him in Week 17 if possible

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by JoeCB1991 on Dec 20, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Not really

Why put Cutler on IR until you absolutely have to do so? Unless we’re hurting for the roster spot. On the EXTREMELY remote outside chance that we somehow are playoff-eligible in Week 17, it’d be nice to have a real QB available.

If we lose (or Detroit and Atlanta win) this weekend, then he might go on IR. Or they might just say “screw it, we’re done in a week anyway” and not pay another guy to be the end-of-the-bench guy.

Putting Cutler on IR would be stating to everyone “we’re giving up on the season.” No reason to do that until the playoffs are officially (not just realistically) over.

by SouthernCub on Dec 20, 2011 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

But but but.....

Hanie almost got us to the Super Bowl! Hanie played with more heart than that quitter Cutler, CUT CUTLER NOW! HANIE FOR STARTER! RABBLE RABBLE YADA YADA YADA!!!!!

I agree with this post. Let the backups play and see how they do.

by frenchbears113 on Dec 20, 2011 12:22 PM CST reply actions  

As long as you're not mathematically eliminated from the playoffs

It’s your job as a coach to prepare the team to win games in the short term.

It’s not the coach’s job to agree with the fanbase, who believe that the season is over, and to start looking forward to next year. Is the season over? I’m 99% sure it is. It’s realistic to believe the season is over, because this team sucks, so don’t jump on me for that. However, it is the coach’s job to put the team in position to win games and make the playoffs. If the coach doesn’t do that, he’s not doing his job, and he deserves to be shown the door.

Whether or not the Lions win Saturday, the Bears have to play to win Sunday. Sorry, that’s just how it is. They have to play to win, hope for a win, and hope for an Atlanta loss Monday.

Lovie Smith has said he will try to win. Good for him.

He’s also basically said Enderle won’t start.

Lovie Smith is an idiot if he starts Hanie Sunday.

He says he’s reviewing film and the decision hasn’t been made yet. If Lovie Smith has to review film to see that Hanie sucks, Lovie smith has no business on the sidelines.

Start McCown or Enderle.

by dm1982 on Dec 20, 2011 12:35 PM CST reply actions  

Sunday Night Game-by game time we will know if they still have a chance for the playoffs

Since the game is late on Sunday, they should know if they still have a shot for the playoffs. If they still have a chance, might as well play to win and if the Packers are killing them by half time, then start playing the young guys. With the way our luck is going, probably someone else will get knocked out for the season and we will see a young guy anyway.

by itsirk on Dec 20, 2011 12:44 PM CST reply actions  

Actually...

Even if the Lions, Giants, Cowboys and Seahawks win, the Bears won’t be eliminated until Atlanta wins. 2 Lions wins + 2 Bears wins + 2 Atlanta losses + 1 Seahawks loss + 1 Giants loss would put the Bears in the playoffs.

The head to head tiebreaker against Atlanta is extremely valuable right now.

by dm1982 on Dec 20, 2011 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Basically, if the Bears win, their fate won't be decided until Monday

when Atlanta has to play in New Orleans.

If the Bears win, they probably will not be mathematically eliminated this weekend.

by dm1982 on Dec 20, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup

The Bears need to win out and either Atlanta or Detroit to lose out. We have the tiebreakers over each:
- conference tiebreaker over Detroit
- head to head tiebreaker over Atlanta

I’d expect Atlanta to lose in New Orleans. So on the off-chance we win that game, we’ll likely still be alive. I could even see Detroit losing to San Diego (who is rolling right now – if they just hadn’t given that game away against Denver!).

Of course, I have no expectation that we’ll beat Green Bay, so it’s probably a moot point.

by SouthernCub on Dec 20, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

I don’t have that expectation either, but really, the chances of Atlanta or Detroit losing out are not that small. Detroit has the toughest road… they have to beat San Diego at home OR Green Bay on the road to clinch a spot. Atlanta has to beat New Orleans on the road or Tampa at home to clinch a spot. Seattle would have to win out… they play San Francisco this weekend.

If the Bears somehow manage to beat the Packers… and we’re looking at let’s say, a 10% chance of that happening, odds are, they will be going into next weekend needing only a win at Minnesota and a Lions loss to the Packers or a Falcons loss to Tampa Bay. Sadly (I say sadly because this Bears team looks horrible), by simply beating Green Bay, the Bears could be going into Week 17 with at least a 1/3 or so shot of making the playoffs.

Sadly, if the Bears had simply held on against Denver, or if Oakland hadn’t blown a 13 point lead against the Lions, they wouldn’t even need to beat Green Bay.

If the Bears can put it all together and beat the Packers, they’ll have a solid shot at the playoffs, and as much as I hate to say it, if they pull of a win in Green Bay, they’ll deserve the last chance shot.

by dm1982 on Dec 20, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Hanie made me miss Chad Hutchinson

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by T.Moore on Dec 20, 2011 1:14 PM CST reply actions  

Yes but..

Craig krenzel?? Henry Burris??

Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf

by tfrabotta on Dec 20, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm fine with either McCown or Enderle getting out there

McCown is more mobile though so that could help with the O-Line.

As for getting the young guys out there, yeah need to see what some of them can do.

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by JoeCB1991 on Dec 20, 2011 1:17 PM CST reply actions  

McCown..

Now if only he could throw the ball without it hitting the receiver sideways because it has no spiral…..

by Pretender85 on Dec 20, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Does Roy Williams have a future on this team thanks to the sad fate of Sam Hurd and Knox's unfortuneate injury?

I see the Bears keeping him around for another season if Martz sticks around. We all of a sudden find ourselves a few receivers shy of a full load. I hear that Knox will play again but I personally give him 50/50 on returning to the game at all, back inuries are tricky and any new receivers will need time to learn this wonderfully complex offense courtesy of Mr. Martz.
Basically I think the fate of these two guys may have bought Williams another season in the NFL, sad but possible Bear fans.

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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 20, 2011 1:33 PM CST reply actions  

Unfortunately

he just might.

But my money is on the Bears drafting a WR fairly high (rounds 1, 2 or 3) and expecting Knox healthy next season. Bennett will be returning, Hester can still be put in the middle or at the end of the depth chart, and Sanz will be back. That gives them 5 receivers. All they really need to do to round that out is sign a body (Williams could be that body) and bring a couple PS guys into training camp, likely along with a late round draft pick and a couple of undrafted guys.

I wouldn’t expect Williams back. He didn’t really do enough to impress.

by dm1982 on Dec 20, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

And there is FA to look forward to

Lots of good quality receivers are poised to hit the market this year.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 20, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

More than in most years

but a lot of the truly quality receivers will likely not be going anywhere. Wayne and Welker will be staying put. I’d assume Colston does as well. I think that leaves VJax and Bowe as the real big names out there. I can’t imagine San Diego doesn’t make a huge push for VJax, or for another top name receiver (Bowe, Colston) if they miss out on bringing him back, so San Diego is going to thin the market out either way.

The Bears would be smart to draft a WR in the first round. I think they can continue to improve the OL through free agency, which should open them up to get a good WR with likely a top 15 pick. There’s gonna be a lot of QBs going in the first round as well, and there’s a pretty nice top-heavy WR class in 2012. The Bears should be able to snag the 2nd or 3rd best WR available.

Other than WR and OL, the only truly glaring need is CB. I think having a very solid young DL group and an aging but good LBs along with very good young safeties allows the Bears to possibly get by another year without bringing in an impact CB.

by dm1982 on Dec 20, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

San Diego will try to re-sign V-Jax

However, they will also attempt this with a very small amount of cap space. I’m thinking if all goes well with Forte’s contract, the Bears could be poised to make a move on Jackson.

And the Bears, rather, should not take a WR in the first round. After Blackmon, there is a huge dropoff of talent, and an even larger drop off when looking at players who would actually fit into the receiving corps. You don’t just draft for need, you draft for need that fits into your schemes.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 20, 2011 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Floyd and Jeffery

off the top of my head, are both first round caliber. After that, it’s a huge dropoff. But those guys are absolutely worth a 15th-ish pick

This Bears team basically needs all types of receivers, with the injury to Knox, they may need a speed guy (besides, Hester is being phased out, which increases the need for a speed guy), they need a big receiver (like they have for years and years). The Bears could really accept just about any type of receiver right now with how thin the current group is.

by dm1982 on Dec 20, 2011 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Kirkpatrick

is the only player likely available at the Bears’ draft position that I’d take before Floyd or Jeffery. The Bears aren’t in the position to draft much other than CB or WR, and shouldn’t be drafting anything but CB or WR. They don’t need another young OL. They need to draft a player that can have an immediate impact, and Kirkpatrick or one of those 2 big, fast receivers are the only players I could see falling to 15 and having an immediate impact, while also providing a good investment on a first round pick.

by dm1982 on Dec 20, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I beg to differ on the OL. Webb is NOT good enough to be the LT again next season.

If Kalil somehow falls that far then the Bears should absolutely draft him. THEN you have to franchise bookends for the next decade.

by frenchbears113 on Dec 20, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I doubt Webb starts next season

especially with a healthy Carimi.

First round OL picks have left a bad taste in my mouth. Bears haven’t drafted a playmaker or a skill position player in the first round in forever. I think this OL can be improved by getting healthy and by bringing on an above average or good free agent. The 2 WRs I listed are both in the 6’3/220 range, and both have good speed. Kirkpatrick is potentially a shutdown corner, at the very least a future playmaker and a very good CB2. That’s exactly what the Bears need now, one of those two things.

by dm1982 on Dec 20, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly. There's actually a few REALLY talented O-Line guys there.

Look for a LT or a C. Barett Jones out of Alabama did amazing job against LSU.

Want to watch him in BCS title game.

Or Jonathan Martin from Stanford. Those would be the two lineman to watch once Kalil comes off the board.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Dec 20, 2011 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Notice that I said WRs that fit into our offense

Floyd and Jefferies are 1st rounders no doubt, but neither seem to be actual fits since it appears Martz will return next season. Both have a great deal of size, but don’t seem to have the speed Blackmon has. That was, until I found this site which has all the known WR draft prospects.

Where Jefferies seems like a good idea, for some reason or another Floyd has received as much negative reviews as he has positive reviews.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 20, 2011 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

CBS is a good source for draft class info

Floyd does have some negatives, but he’s an absolute beast on the field when he gets in the zone. He’s the type of big receiver that has good speed and knows how to get open and make plays. Kind of like a Dwayne Bowe type. Jeffery also has good speed for that size, he’s a bit smaller according to the CBS stats, but he looks the same size on the field, also has really good speed for a bigger guy. Doesn’t seem to have the same playmaking capabilities as Floyd, but would complement EB pretty well with a Knox or Hester in the mix. Either would fill the role that Williams is supposed to be filling right now. A big, sure handed receiver capable of stretching the field when needed and making catches over the middle of the field. I think they could fit into the Martz offense just fine. We saw last year with Olsen that a big receiver pays huge dividends in the Martz system, and that Martz is fine with calling a big receiver’s number.

I’d actually be leary on Blackmon because of the injury, besides, he should be a top 10 pick.

I really want to see a WR or CB drafted. Just my personal opinion. Floyd, Jeffery or Kirkpatrick would be a godsend. Kirkpatrick could easily get picked just a couple slots ahead of the Bears pick.

by dm1982 on Dec 20, 2011 8:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I too want to see a WR drafted early

But two maybe three other positions which should be considered early (rounds 1-3) would be OL, CB, and maybe DE.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 20, 2011 9:32 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Agree

On most accounts I agree. There is still a very slim chance to make the playoffs. I’ll probably agree with whatever decision Lovie makes at starter and once and if we are technically out of the GB game on Christmas I’d say start playing some backups. I would absolutely love to see GB lose on Christmas, but once we are out of the running I think Lovie will start playing the backups and see what they have in them. I don’t feel we have much for depth and we don’t have a lot of guys with a lot of playing experience because last year we didn’t have that many injuries, so this will be a good way to get some reps for our younger guys and get some tape on them.

by Captain Kangaroo on Dec 20, 2011 1:47 PM CST reply actions  

Absolutely agree

Put in Enderle and get Hanie off the field. He has no future here after his performaces in the last 4 games. Sad but true.

And for god sakes do not let Cutler play against the Packers. It’s too soon and I’d rather he be 100% next year then really screw things up with his throwing hand.

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by TheotherDane on Dec 20, 2011 2:04 PM CST reply actions  

I agree with the post, even with Enderle playing poor we would have a chance to see if can at least read a blitz. On the other hand , there might be a little fire started under someone’s arse, for what is going on right now with the team. Nobody thought this would happen , and the front office had no contingency plan. Someone will pay at the end of the year, most likely Martz, or the QB coach , although Martz kept on hinting to Hanie’s suckage, or inability to play .

by transylvanian bear on Dec 20, 2011 2:07 PM CST reply actions  

Please no Cutty , and no Forte, enough ugly, already. We lost the season, we don’t need to jeopardize the next one.

by transylvanian bear on Dec 20, 2011 2:09 PM CST reply actions  

Small sample size disclaimer, but note this from Barnwell at Grantland

Flop: Caleb Hanie, who serves as another example of why you can’t take one quarter of action very seriously. In last year’s playoffs, Hanie came in after Jay Cutler got hurt and Todd Collins 0 for 4 performance basically signed the death warrant on his own career. The Bears took Hanie’s play as a sign that he was ready to be Jay Cutler’s primary backup, and while he was an upgrade over the atrocious Collins, he’s not an NFL quarterback. After his latest start, Hanie’s thrown 102 passes and completed 51 of them, for a completion percentage at an even 50 percent. He’s thrown nine interceptions, producing an interception rate of 8.8 percent. Nobody has thrown interceptions that frequently over 100 or more pass attempts in 23 years! Steve Grogan narrowly beat it out in 1988. After you adjust for the era Hanie plays in, pro-football-reference.com suggests that Hanie’s been worse at avoiding picks than anybody in NFL history since the merger. Hanie’s also been sacked on a whopping 14.5 percent of his dropbacks. PFR suggests that only three players since the merger, after adjusting for era, have gone down more frequently. Bottom line: Caleb Hanie might be the worst quarterback to throw 100 passes since the AFL merged with the NFL. If Chicago’s backup had merely been below average, their defense would likely have been enough to get them into the playoffs. Instead, they will spend their January on the finest golf courses in America.

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by gafferland on Dec 20, 2011 2:18 PM CST reply actions  

That is pretty damning evidence.

(Again, clarifying that the above was written by Bill Barnwell, not me)

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by gafferland on Dec 20, 2011 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

9 Interceptions on 51 completions thats an pick every 6 complete passes, WTF?

I was running these numbers in my head yesterday in the car and was wondering were this landed old Caleb in the grand scheme of things, pretty pathetic even on Bear QB standards.

White Sox fans need not apply.

by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 20, 2011 7:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Game is almost meaningless to both sides

I could easily see the Packers sitting a few people if things get chippy which they often do in Bear/Packer games, this might end up a battle of second and third stringers, boring but entirely possible. Everyone would love to go out and house the Pack, unfortuntealy we dont have the personnel to do such a task so these alternatives are being proposed.

White Sox fans need not apply.

by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 20, 2011 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

and then there are Bear fans

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by ed_brown on Dec 20, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Knowing how stubborn our coaching staff can be at times

I wouldn’t be surprised if we play this season out with all the starters. And they seriously need to put Cutler on the IR. It’s making me nervous to think that they’d be stupid enough to trot him out there sometime these next 2 weeks.

by Midway Bully on Dec 20, 2011 2:53 PM CST reply actions  

yeah I have no idea why he and forte still active

Should’ve been put on IR w/ Conte & Knox. As long as they’re promoting the whole practice squad anyway, what’s 2 more moves??

by walterfan34 on Dec 20, 2011 3:05 PM CST reply actions  

Why not start Enderle?

I doubt Cutler will be ready, and Hanie had his chance and has done little to warrant another chance.

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by lookingdeadred on Dec 20, 2011 3:58 PM CST reply actions  

Is Chris Leak busy?

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by ThorCo on Dec 20, 2011 4:05 PM CST reply actions  

I sure hope so

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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 20, 2011 4:18 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

We've already taken a Leak.

All over this season.

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by Pete Dixon on Dec 20, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Rimshot.

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Dec 20, 2011 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

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by suckmyditka on Dec 20, 2011 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Gotta start Enderle

Put some distance between us and Cleveland for “most different QBs to start a game since 1999” – that record is our birthright as Bears’ fans, dammit.

Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?

by ES46NE10 on Dec 20, 2011 6:16 PM CST reply actions  

Do we got the record since 1991?

Cause I think we should.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Dec 20, 2011 7:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Some media outlets might have mentioned that in the six years since the hypothetical retiring of Brett Favre.

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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 20, 2011 7:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Makes sense...

and I tend to agree for the most part. But as i read this post I realized most of the idiots and morons who I blame for creating this mess are the ones doing these evaluations. Does it really matter what Martz and JA think of Enderle? I can envision many situations where Martz leaves and JA has proven he couldn’t evaluate the quality of of any athlete even if his job depended on it, which it should. It will be nice to get some tape on the young guys, but with JA likely being retained (I just threw up a little), this team will not have any better success next season. There is a deep and fundamental lack of talent at too many key positions and short of a wholesale change in coaching staff and FO (total house cleaning), the Bears will be an also-ran for the next few seasons because of the miserable job JA has done. Think of him as the gift that just keeps on taking!

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by LostInSTL on Dec 21, 2011 6:32 AM CST reply actions  

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