Ugh, You Again: Week 16, Green Bay Packers
So Josh McCown gets to start against the Packers. This thrills me about as much as garbage day. Just for fun, let's take a look at some of the numbers behind the new Bears' starting quarterback...
- Number of starts since 2007: 0
- Number of games played since 2007: 4, including last Sunday
- Passes thrown since 2007: 8, including Sunday
- Total yards since 2007: 14
- Total passing touchdowns since 2007: 0
- Total interceptions since 2007: 1 (Sunday)
- Career TD-INT: 35-41
- Career quarterback rating: 70.9; Career high for quarterback rating in a season: 74.9
- Longest season: 14 games, 13 starts - 233-408 (57.1%), 2511 yards, 11 TD, 10 INT, 4.6 Adj Net Yards/Attempt
- Second best season: 9 games, 6 starts - 163-270 (60.4%), 1836 yards, 9 TD, 11 INT, 4.9 Adj Net Yards/Attempt
THIS is the guy starting on Sunday night? This is a better option than a fifth-round rookie? Because he "knows the system"? That sounds really familiar... (And yes. His career passer rating was actually, and still is, HIGHER.)
But anyways, that's not what you came here for, is it. Follow me past the jump and let's talk about the Packers. And no, I never thought that sentence would sound so welcome.
When Last We Met: Well, hm, last time we met the Bears were 1-1 coming off the Saints and Falcons, and the Packers were 2-0 coming off the Saints and Panthers. The Packers of course went on to win 27-17.
Since that day... Well, um, it's probably easier to say what hasn't changed since week three.
- In week three, the Packers were 3-0. Now, they're 13-1.
- The Packers also lost Greg Jennings, who will be out for this one.
- The Bears were 1-2. Then they were 2-3. Then they were 7-3. And now they're 7-7.
- The Bears lost their top quarterback (thumb injury), top running back (leg injury), top-producing wide receiver (bent backwards in a printing press), top supplier (stupidity), one starting safety from being cut, another one due to a smashed shoulder (who might return this week), and another one to a season-ending foot/ankle injury.
- The Bears lost to three-fourths of the AFC West. The Packers' scoring differential against the AFC West was +58. The Bears' scoring differential against the AFC West was -4 (+11 vs SD).
- The Bears and Packers combined to beat the Vikings in three games by 73 points.
- The Chargers scored 58 points combined against the Bears and Packers, and lost both games.
Ah, for the glory days when we were beating San Diego and basking in the glory of owning a wild card spot, eh?
But here's the most drastic change. Since Week 3, the Bears went 6-1, then 0-4. That was enough to propel the Bears to a one-game wild card lead, then down to two games back and needing some help to climb back in.
And now the Bears are starting Josh McCown. Joy to the world. Deck the halls with bad QB play, fa la la la la, la la la la. I'm really not sure what this does against the average scoring defense/bad pass-yardage defense of Green Bay. Might look okay on paper, "ease him in," but he's preparing for his first start in four years against a defense that loves turnovers. At least Nathan Enderle has started a game at some level in that time span, even if it was college.
I'm not even going to go into the T.J. (Shouse?) Yates comparison. Sure, he was drafted within a couple picks of Enderle. But he's got much better weapons around him - Andre Johnson, Arian Foster, Ben Tate, Owen Daniels. Enderle doesn't have that, but at least he's prepared for a game like a starter in this decade.
I get experience. I really do. But it's one thing to get a guy that just played last year and might be looking to hang on for another year. It's another to get a guy who's seen so little game play recently, and when he DID in his career, he wasn't good. We've seen this experience before. It was horrifically painful to watch. I know that Josh McCown won't automatically suck because Collins sucked, but what's to make us think differently when he gets picked on his third play as a Bear?
The best thing for the Bears this week is for the defense to come out at the pace they've played and allow only around 20 offensive points, and hope the offense can pick up just enough to win. If the defense allows this to get into a shootout, the Bears won't win it at all - without the defense playing at a high level, there's just been so little evidence to show the Bears can score enough to potentially keep pace with a 34.3 points-per-game scoring attack - hell, they've only scored 27 points in their last three games combined. It might take that many points in one game to win against Green Bay, and probably more.
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I don't think I'll ever feel at ease during a season again
Look, I’m normally a twitchy, nervous fan. But as the Bears were beating the Charger, I was thinking, “Boy, we’ve secured a Wild Card spot, especially since the easiest part of our schedule is still to come.” Even after learning about the Cutler injury I was optimistic. I thought maybe they could sneak into the playoffs and get him back and surprise some teams. What are the chances of missing out on a WC spot after going 7-3? How many teams have accomplished that? I guess it’s quite a feat to do. I’m already counting down the days to 2012 season.
Totally unfair to ask the defense to hold a team to 21 or less and not win the ball game
I think in the Seattle game the defense finally just broke down, basically playing good enough to win all three previous ball games they just couldn’t mentally keep it up.
I think its time to rest Urlacher and Briggs and Peppers and just let this one go. They try to keep this futility up for another couple of weeks and we could potentially sustain a career ending injury to one of big three and we need these guys all healthly in 2012.
Its almost blasphemy to imagine going into Lambeau not ready to destroy those pukes but we gotta think about next year with these three defensive stars as these guys arent getting any younger. Anyway my 2 cents.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 21, 2011 4:13 PM CST reply actions
That seems to make the most sense
But, given the competitive nature of those guys, and the fact that Lovie and Co. are still trying to make the playoffs, just in case the Lions choke down the stretch – I doubt it will happen.
well, I'm rooting for the Bolts nd Saints this week, next week the...um...
well, they lost one, so the Pack and whoever is headed to the Georgia dome in week 17
so all we need is for the Pack to go 14-2 and EITHER the Falcons or lions to lose 2 games..
and ofcourse the Bears to win 2 games
not gonna happen
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A Bears win would be an epic Christmas gift.
Fortunately, I played it safe and bought a nice bottle of tequila as a backup present to comfort myself in case Santa doesn’t deliver.
So whats the over / under on how long it takes until McCown gets yanked ?
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Dec 21, 2011 7:10 PM CST reply actions
I'm saying
about 2 min into the 3rd quarter after throwing his 3rd pick, they put Hanie in.. About 2 minutes into the 4th quarter, after throwing his 3rd pick, Hanie gets yanked and they finally put in Enderle who goes 5-11 for 68 yards 1td and 2ints, earning a start against the Vikings
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actually upon second thought
Mcown won’t make it past the 2nd quarter before Hanie’s in
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You think they'll go back to Hanie after McClown?
I’m thinking on to Enderle….
by David in Maine on Dec 21, 2011 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
No they will definitely put Hanie in
He’s the 2nd string QB heading into Sunday, they will definitely try him if MClown doesn’t work
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Guess they don't want the kid to be a Human Sacrifice
behind the Truly Offensive, Offensive Line….
by David in Maine on Dec 21, 2011 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
well i mean they'll put Hanie in..
But hard telling how long they leave him in… 1 or 2 picks and we may see Enderle
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Oh dear God no!
Ugh we’re doomed, especially if Forte can’t play. Josh McCown is just about as bad as you can get at QB.
All I wanted for Christmas was Jay Cutler…. :/
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 21, 2011 9:08 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
We are about to get served up a big can o whoopass
Nothing to do but wait for it.
by Sound_Automatic on Dec 22, 2011 1:15 PM CST reply actions

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