2011 Week 16: Bears at Packers Open Thread
by Kev H on Dec 25, 2011 9:36 PM CST
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PrintWays to not beat the Packers:
1. Let them complete whatever they feel like.
2. Leave points on the board.
3. Throw interceptions.
4. Let Aaron Rodgers chump your linebackers on a scramble.
5. Let them complete whatever they feel like, including that back shoulder pass that we've been watching him throw ALL SEASON LONG.
I put that last one in there for emphasis.
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I'm thinking even with Cutler
and even with how well they played against Denver and KC a few weeks ago, this D would not have gotten us very far in the playoffs.
And yes, I know it’s Aaron Rodgers – but you gotta play QBs like Rodgers and Brees in the playoffs sometime. Our D is getting old, folks … they kept us in the playoff run longer than we deserved, but this is not going to be a D we can depend on next year, methinks
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
They are on the field too much
If our offense had actually shown up the defense would actually get to rest like a real team and the results might be completely different. Who knows about next year but to blame the defense for any of this is wrong
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
I thought that too
and that explains it some of the time, but that can’t explain the TDs tonight. Usually, that’s the case. But the TD’s tonight, and the way that Tavaris fucking Jackson went down the field on us last week right after half, that’s not exhaustion. That’s soft zone sucktitude
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
some of that has to be on scheme
as much as execution of said scheme
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
We're good at containing mobile QBs who can't throw
scheme and execution is usually pretty good. But pocket passers that we don’t get shit for pressure on – they rip us to shreds almost every time.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
hasselbeck drove me nuts
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
I disagree.
The defense has given up 35 points. They are absolutely to blame for that.
Remember that the Bears still have the TOP lead, so what’s the excuse again?
The defense is allowing TDs to fast for them to be on the field to long.
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1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 25, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, and how's Bowman been tonight?
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
Embarrassing
Lovie is acting like a 1st year coach benching Jennings for one bad game, foolish decision.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
We're like the scout team
prepping GB for the real game
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
How many TDs on bowmans wr does it take before he goes away?
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 9:43 PM CST reply actions
Well, to be fair
it’s been a different receiver every time. They are equal opportunity Bowman-exploiters
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
Bowman is bad no matter who he is covering
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
Bowman was covering?
News to me.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 25, 2011 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
My mistake
you are correct
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know, but....
the three he’s given up tonight is two more than Jennings has given up in 15 games. Why is Jennings on the Bench again?
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 25, 2011 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
Lovie is on heroin
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
5 TDs! holy crap
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 9:46 PM CST reply actions
FB Dive!
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
It really is
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
I thought goddell passed a rule allowing holding as long as its Peppers your guarding
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
sounds familiar
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by Jessica312 on Dec 25, 2011 9:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
lol
the fake wolfe
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
McCown not being
Hanie pretty much assures a roster spot for him
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
im sure it's more tempting
than high school coaching
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
y'know, you're probably right
and the bears are screwed forever and ever, amen…merry christmas
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but an NFL backup QB job
probably pays better than a high-school football coaching job, in NC at least
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
I'm sure some Bears fan will put him up
him and his wife and 4 kids, eh? Rent free?
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
yeah bell playing well
We definitely have good depth at RB
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by Jessica312 on Dec 25, 2011 9:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
a few scores to make this respectable
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 9:52 PM CST reply actions
Shuggs
i agree with you just think there are many factors to this team. If F.O. does their job a backup qb can step in and have better weapons to succeed. I think Jay hid some of the faults..
and i dont think loveie gets fired
because TLR
McCown DUNK!
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 9:54 PM CST reply actions
No
This has been another edition of simple answers to easy questions
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
This is the wrong site for that.......
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 26, 2011 7:31 AM CST up reply actions
I'm slightly - slightly impressed by McCown tonight
even with that semi-dunk to celebrate a meaningless 2pt conversion
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
I'm rather impressed
One INT wasn’t his fault… badly thrown, but tipped.
The first INT was a bad throw, but 9 times out of 10, the LB does not have the body balance to stop himself and get his hands up and make that catch.
McCown has been fairly OK tonight, and he definitely uses his feet much better than Hanie could even dream of.
not to mention McCown doesnt play scared the way Hanie does
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 10:01 PM CST up reply actions
so this guy McCown would have beat the Raiders, Chiefs, and Broncos
Took this long to find this out, good job coaching staff.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 9:56 PM CST reply actions
We were in all those games until the end
All we needed was a game manager which is what this guy is doing.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
Still better than Hanies 9 INTs on 51 completions
thats an INT on roughly 20 percent of his completions, sad.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
Ironically
I think he would have beaten the Raiders and the Broncos, but NOT the Chiefs.
Or, maybe I mean ‘idiotically’ because who knows.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
And you trust this coaching staff when they tell you that?
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
If McCown came in for Hanie in one of those games and looked like Todd Collins
you’d be saying they were stupid for pulling Hanie. Two-sided coin.
Yeah but we're talking about what's actually happening
All we needed was a professional QB to not lose against bad teams. Hanie probably won’t be in the league this year. Every Bears fan should be pissed as hell that the coaches let a non NFL QB tank a season. This is bs
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
I keep hearing this
When I bring up the fact that Lovie waited too long.
And at least for me, it is not the case. I was ready for Lovie to dump Hanie after the first start.
Todd Collins would have been an improvement over Hanie.
That was probably the worst 4 start stretch possible by a QB.
I’d rather my coach go down with a sinking ship while trying to bail it out and DO SOMETHING than to sit there and watch what’s failing continue to fail.
“Two-sided coin”… simply not true.
No, he would have been equally ineffective at worst
At best, he would have been slightly less mistake prone.
do you remember
the carolina game last year? i am pretty sure he made it to the half completing more passes to the defense
Sounds very Hanie-esque
But not as bad. Hanie would Throw 2 TDs to the other team and 1 to his own.
at least with a few
completions, and kind of a drive before he throws a pick. remember that 2nd half in oakland? when hanie gave us hope for growth? Collins gave us none of that.. zero.. none.. they both suck balls, but Collins sucks so much more ballz like almost infinite ballz..
This coaching staff makes up BS reasons
for not making personnel changes until it’s too late.
Or they don’t give a reason at all. Just “So-and-so is our such-and-such.”
*shudder
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 10:01 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah that's where I'm at with all of this
Screw this game. It was never about beating the Pack. It was about beating the other sorry ass teams and I truly believe we beat the Cheifs and KC with Mcown and then win next week to get in the playoffs. Unbelievable
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
We would have beaten the Chiefs twice?
Awesome!
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
If we had Tebow he could query god for an extra game to pad stats....
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
Whoops. lol
Chiefs and Broncos
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
Yep
I could see giving Hanie 2 starts… MAYBE 3… but not the 4 he got.
There’s no way that an “unprepared McCown” could have been any worse than what Hanie was over that 4 game stretch.
And it took 15 1/2 quarters to realize that.
this, exactly
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by Jessica312 on Dec 25, 2011 9:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
At first I thought Jennings must have done something dishonorable with Lovie's daughter.
But then I remembered that Lovie has three sons. Maybe Jennings did something dishonorable to one of Lovie’s lackies? Did Jennings boink Martz or something?
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 25, 2011 9:56 PM CST reply actions
nice little penalty kick
man, we get all the breaks this year
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 9:57 PM CST reply actions
The break we may get is
that after this debacle Jerry Angelo will either retire or get fired!
"Most important thought, if you love someone, tell him or her, for you never know what tomorrow may have in store." ~ The Great Walter J. Payton.
I sure hope so
especially after Matt Flynn rips us apart
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
alright.... think I'm out
It’s been a wild and crazy season. 2012 = year of the Bear.
Night!
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by Jessica312 on Dec 25, 2011 10:00 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Bowman lowlight reel
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 10:01 PM CST reply actions
Briggs looks like hell today....for the third week in a row.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 25, 2011 10:03 PM CST reply actions
At Least this aint 35-3 or something completely humiliating like that
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 10:07 PM CST reply actions
Well, yeah
but if they keep Rodgers in it would have been 42 or 49-10, so, you know …
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
probably true
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
That Patriots game last year...suckage
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
Yah that game was painful
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
well fuck
Favre in a photo of a Bears uni…i’ve seen it all now
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 10:10 PM CST reply actions
Im burning my eyes with acid after seeing that image
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
Well, Webb got a penalty.
At least we know he’s trying………..very trying…….oh so trying………
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 25, 2011 10:10 PM CST reply actions
Oh God
They just showed McNabb with a bears jersey on. Some folks on here methink got temporarily excited
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
I am depressed, I wanted him and it is never going to happen.
Also, #5 is retired so he can’t use that number.
Well, in all fairness, I didn't want him
but I don’t think there’s ANY way he could have been worse (a safe assumption since we’ve f’ing lost EVERY GAME since Jay went down).
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
Bears w/ 438 yrds on Offense tonight? Damn….
by David in Maine on Dec 25, 2011 10:10 PM CST reply actions
Fuck you McCarthy
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 10:12 PM CST reply actions
fuck you mccarthy…you can’t just let him have it
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 10:13 PM CST reply actions
Can I get a third fuck you McCarthy?
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 10:13 PM CST reply actions
Thank you sir
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
FUCK YOU McCarthy!
For BCB
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
and thank you too
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
what a fucking scumbag
i hope you rot in green bay forever
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 10:15 PM CST reply actions
We even get 2 2 minute warnings...fantastic
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 10:16 PM CST reply actions
McCown can run a 2 minute drill
Holy shit
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 10:17 PM CST reply actions
gate 68 back at it again
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 10:18 PM CST reply actions
I think Collingsworth is good
but I’m sorry on the ‘only one team can play up here in GB in this weather and beat them’ canard:
(1) Weather can be balmy even in January, or at least not windy – other teams besides San Fran could handle that
(2) New Orleans, yes, is a warm weather team – but they are REALLY f’ing on-point this year. The ‘weather’ can only contain them so much
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
By a defense a thousand-times better than the Pack's
ok, maybe not a thousand-times, but much better than this one.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
QB wise, yes
but our running attack back then was nearly unstoppable, much better than theirs.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
This dude is fearless running the ball
WOW
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 10:18 PM CST reply actions
it's impressive
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by BearNecessities on Dec 25, 2011 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
It's sad that during this 5 game stretch
- The running game didn’t suffer any setbacks in its ability to move the chains.
- The defense had 2 absolutely outstanding games, allowing 10 points in regulation in both.
- We found out there’s a QB on the roster that can go 18/25 for nearly 300 yards, use his feet to make plays and complete passes on 3rd down.
Aaaaaand, yet we’re 0-5 in that stretch.
Just 2 wins out of those 5 games… just 2… and we’d only need a win against the Vikings and the inevitable Falcons loss to the Saints tomorrow. Just 1 win, and we’d only need that loss plus a loss against Tampa Bay.
Oh, right. We'd need even less.
At least I have an entire playoffs to root against Green Bay.
Dont do it, running the numbers of what could have been
you will only hurt your brain and piss yourself off.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
McCown really wants to return to the NFL next season
If he repeats this performance against the Vikings, even if he doesn’t stick around, he should get a couple of calls. Some good passes, distributing the ball, cool in the chi-pocket and scrambling like a mad bastard. And he made Roy Toy look a decent receiver.
I think we found our backup for next year fellas
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Dec 25, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
I'll wait until next week
But I’m happy with his performance tonight. 19/28 for 242, 1TD for 2INT and 8 for 28 on the ground is quite good for a 32-year old journeyman who spent the last months coaching kids.
I'm not ready to proclaim him our backup next year
But if he does get the start next week (knowing Lovie, there will be no way Enderle even comes close to stepping on the field) and does well, he should be one of the first considered for a job holding Cutler’s clipboard next season.
Woo hoo..
the Bears have the back-up QB all set. Now they need about 15 more starting caliber NFL players and a competent coaching staff and they are all set!
There's a fine line between stupid...and clever!
Not with great players, look at the Colts when they had Manning playing and most of the great teams including the Saints.....
Also, Lovie is more competent than a guy like Caldwell and he went 14-2 one year.
mccown would have had us in the playoffs
he is so much better than hanie. he would have won at least 2 games. staying with hanie for more than 2 games vist us a postseason spot. way to go lovie. martz was right to not like hanie.
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