2011-12 Chicago Bears Pro Bowl Selections: Briggs, Forte, Graham, Tillman, Urlacher
by Dane Noble on Dec 27, 2011 5:45 PM CST
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The official Pro Bowl rosters have been announced on NFL Network, and the Chicago Bears are sending five players to Hawaii. They are:
- LB Lance Briggs
- LB Brian Urlacher
- CB Charles Tillman
- ST Corey Graham
- RB Matt Forte (selection only; cannot play due to IR)
Players that could have arguably been included are DE Julius Peppers, DT Henry Melton, and KR Devin Hester.
What do you think?
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Bout damn time for Peanut
Long overdue
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
by T.Moore on Dec 27, 2011 5:46 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Congrats to Peanut!
It is about time he gets the nod. Any word on Urlacher, Hester, and Peppers?
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 27, 2011 5:51 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Glad to see Tillman make it
We’ll see if Briggs (or rather Rosenhaus) tries to use this as contract leverage.
So happy to see Tillman get Pro Bowl honors, he's been great.
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guess it's not being played then
Jared Allen and his 18.5 sacks
Whiny Baby Babin
and the man with three name JPP made it in
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Pep should go up to the rest of the d-linemen on the Bears and pull a Moe Howard
by taking all of their heads and cracking them together. The lack of production by the rest of that group prevented him from getting more sacks and recognition. The offensive coordinators they went up against knew he was the only one they really had to worry about.
Really a shame for a great player.
Their plan
Hold Julius we’ll get away with it!
"Violence is not always the answer."
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uhh actually the DTs had a very productive season
Henry Melton had 7 sacks, Okoye had 5 sacks, Paea had 3 or 4 sacks
If anyone needs their head cracked it’s Idonije…4 sacks? How are you only getting 4 sacks across from Jpep
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FWIW
The Shutdown Corner’s Doug Farrar: Hidden Pro Bowlers:
Idonije doesn’t get the credit he deserves on the other side of Julius Peppers, but if you ask his coaches and teammates about him, you’ll get the real story.
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idonije laid an egg this season. Bears should look for a bookend to JPep
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by suckmyditka on Dec 30, 2011 12:08 AM CST up reply actions
Doug Farrar....
eh……at least it wasn’t Chris Chase, who still insists the Packers are the league’s oldest continuous franchise (they aren’t, the Cardinals are by a year)
I’ll just say that I disagree with Farrar more often than not, and this is one of those times. Izzy didn’t get the credit he deserved when he was a backup. Now that he’s a starter, he’s been inconsistent and quite frankly he needs to return to the realm of backup.
And as far as asking coaches and players, Izzy is a well liked player who has a reputation as a very good person, regardless of his football prowess, which is in the top .00001% of human beings. You generally hear players promote the good guys on their team, and Izzy is definitely one of the good guys.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 30, 2011 12:32 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not so stuck on the sacks....
It’s the total pressures that bother me. Izzy is sitting at around half of the total pressures of Pep, even though Pep draws attention away from Izzy and you very rarely see Izzy catch a double team.
Being fair, Izzy is nearly as good a run defender as Pep, though.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 30, 2011 12:34 AM CST up reply actions
Saw Forte on the list at NFL.com.
"You have a young group and if they start feeling too good about themselves, that’s not a good thing. So it’s my job not to let them. So probably they will hate me. But that’s OK too. My wife hates me and she’s still married to me." - Mike Tice
Forte was named, but he's on IR, so he can't play in it.
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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 27, 2011 6:08 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, didn't know that would discount it.
"You have a young group and if they start feeling too good about themselves, that’s not a good thing. So it’s my job not to let them. So probably they will hate me. But that’s OK too. My wife hates me and she’s still married to me." - Mike Tice
by badsamaritan on Dec 27, 2011 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
according to Bears Blitz
if he passes a physical he can in fact play
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Mine from yesterday was going off of what I read on Twitter going around.
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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 28, 2011 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
Matt Forte has been named as an honorary member of the NFC squad
Too bad he can’t play
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 27, 2011 6:15 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
damn
That’s gotta be the most players in the pro bowl by a .500 team this year.
I believe Cutler gets that 3rd QB spot had he not gotten injured.
Also It’s about damn time Peanut gets to the pro bowl… The guy has been a top 10 corner for at least 6 years.
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Lets not jinx it, we aren't .500 yet.
Also I think its crap Eli Manning got in over Stafford and Rivers over Tebow.
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by badsamaritan on Dec 27, 2011 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
I hate the tebow hype
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Tebow didn't put up Pro Bowl numbers
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He played more effectively than Rivers, so did Matt Moore.
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by badsamaritan on Dec 27, 2011 6:48 PM CST up reply actions
effectively?
not at all, his team put him in positions to succeed
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absolutely not
Denver was winning in spite of Tebow crapfest performances
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Did you see all those come-from-behind wins
thanks to his performances? Did you see his QB rating during the 4th quarters during that stretch?
I'm a ninja.
In those comebacks he either: led his team to a long FG attempt OR was down multiple scores, building up his stats on prevent defenses (such as the Bears put up — if not for Barber running out of bounds, that’s a Garbage time TD and he still needed a big FG by Praeter to tie it).
He had one good game and that was against Minnesota. The rest were garbage time stat padding combined with incredibly lucky bounces and great play by the Kicker. To say anything else is to admit to not watching the games.
LOL
To say anything else is to admit to not watching the games.
Always love people who have something so much figured out that to disagree with them is scientifically wrong.
Here are some situational stats for you. Currently on the season:
- 1st half passing: 371 yards, 2 TD, 59.9 rating
- 2nd half passing: 1,260 yards, 10 TD, 84.4 rating
And to break it down even further:
1st- 3rd quarters passing: 687 yards, 6 TDs, 67.7 rating
4th quarter passing: 944 yards, 6 TDs, 87.1 rating
I’m still not sold on Tebow, especially after the last two straight losses. But during that very impressive win streak that he contributed significantly to, including 5 (I think) come-from-behind wins, he looked like the real deal.
People can write him off (usually because they just don’t like him, just as many do Cutler) if they want to, but to dismiss his successes in such a young career due to soft defenses, lucky bounces, and garbage time is a bit ridiculous.
And one final thought: Even if defenses were playing Cover-2 or some other keep it in front of you defense against Tebow late in games, many of them weren’t able to keep him out of the end zone. And that’s what matters.
I'm a ninja.
Still for that dude up there to say that
Tebow deserved a pro bowl nod over Rivers is just plain comical
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by suckmyditka on Dec 27, 2011 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
Rivers is overall a better quarterback.
But this season he definitely cost his team more with all the turnovers, Tebow has had some bad games (like the last two) but in Rivers’ worst season he should be left out.
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by badsamaritan on Dec 28, 2011 12:50 AM CST up reply actions
Fine...
but not for Tebow.
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by jameslcrockett on Dec 28, 2011 4:31 AM CST up reply actions
you make a pro bowl a year after you should
he’s basically making this pro bowl off of last years play
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Here's some sciency numbers:
Rivers: 2011-12 San Diego Games: 15 QBRating: 86.6 Comp%62.4 4314Yds 287.6yds/game Yds/attempt 7.8 TD 24 INT19
Rushing 23A 39Yds 1.7Avg 1TD
Matt Moore 2011-12 Miami Games:12 QBRating: 89.8 Comp%59.8 2375Yds 197.9yds/game Yds/attempt 7.5 TD15 INT7
Rushing 29A 73Yds 2.5Avg 2TD
Tebow 2011-12 Denver Games: 13 QBRating:75.9 Comp%48.0 1669Yds 128.4yds/game Yds/attempt 6.7 TD12 INT6
Rushing 116A 644Yds 5.6Avg 6TD
Schaub 2011-12 Houston Games:10 QBRating:96.8 Comp%61.0 2479Yds 247.9yds/game Yds/attempt 8.5 TD15 INT6
Rushing 15A 9Yds 0.6Avg 2TD
Dalton 2011-12 Cincinnati Games:15 QBRating:81.8 Comp%58.9
3166Yds 211.1yds/game Yds/attempt 6.7 TD20 INT13
Rushing 33A 135Yds 4.1Avg 0TD
Colt McCoy 2011-12 Cleveland Games:13 QBRating:74.6 Comp%57.2 2733Yds 210.2yds/game Yds/attempt 5.9 TD14 INT11
Rushing 61A 212Yds 3.5Avg 0TD
Mark Sanchez 2011-12 NY Jets Games15 QBRating:79.0 Comp%56.2 3267Yds 217.8yds/game Yds/attempt 6.4 TD24 INT15
Rushing 36A 101Yds 2.8Avg 6TD
Carson Plamer 2011-12 Oakland Games:9 QBRating:77.2 Comp%60.0 2336Yds 259.6yds/game Yds/attempt 8.2 TD11 INT15
Rushing 314A 14Yds 1.0Avg 1TD
How is he being snubbed? He has QB numbers similar to Colt McCoy. And worse than everyone else on this list, and short of Rivers none of those guys are going to the pro-bowl. Urlacher said it best, “he’s a good RB.”
There's a fine line between stupid...and clever!
Your comment is a direct reply to me,
yet I never said anything about the Pro Bowl, snubs, or other QBs.
I'm a ninja.
But you defend his "success"...
in response to the argument that Tebow should be in the pro-bowl over Rivers. That’s how I read your part of this thread. Tebow IS a bad QB who runs around a bunch and plays (albeit badly) for a Denver team that won 5 games. If you feel I have slighted you, I apologize. I am just trying to put the Tebow hype into perspective using the numbers.
There's a fine line between stupid...and clever!
No, it wasn't in response to him deserving the Pro Bowl.
It was directly in response to a comment that Denver was winning in spite of his crapfest performances.
I'm a ninja.
how do their pass attempts rank?
That’s the true indicator, cause the team doesn’t have to rely on him throwing the ball to score.
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by propheteer on Dec 28, 2011 8:55 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
And here's my own stats for you
Miami: Trailing 15 to 0 with 7 minutes left, the Dolphins go into a prevent defense, allowing Tebow to rack up 141 yards (of his 161) as well as both TD passes. Like the Bears, the Dolphins elected for the 3 and out run the ball offense and they were lucky to pick up a rare onside kick (during which Tebow is not on the field). Then in OT, the DEN kicker hits a 52 yard FG. Tebow: 13 for 27, 161 yards, 2 TD’s (almost all in “garbage time” if not for lucky bounces).
Oakland: Trailing 24-14 with 6:24 in the third quarter “Tebow” rallies the team again. His rally consisted of: A 43 yard FG by Praeter, a 60 yard rushing TD by Willis McGahee, an 85 yard punt return by Eddie Royal, and a 24 yard rushing TD by Willis McGahee.
Tebow: 10-21, 124 yards, 2 TD’s.
Chiefs: Bronco’s win because it’s the Chiefs. Tebow was 2 for 8 in this game for 69 yards, 1 TD (a 56 yard catch & run).
NYJ: Another game without any prevent defenses.Tebow had a good rushing game. But finished 9 for 20 for 120 yards. DEN won 17-13, 7 points of which were a defensive TD.
Tebow: 9 for 20, 120 yards, INT.
SD: Down 13-10 in the 4th, Tebow rallies the team on the back of Praeters foot, who kicks FG’s from 37 yards in the final two minutes and 24 yards in OT.
Tebow: 9-18, 143 yards, TD.
MIN: Tebow has a good game and I won’t discredit him for MIN’s defensive play.
Tebow: 10-15, 202 yards, TD (his first game over 50% completion).
CHI: Tebow fails to complete any passes in the 2nd or 3rd quarter, basically waiting until a prevent defense is put into place (prevent = no defense). Tebow passes for 153 yards in the 4th Quarter against this no defense defense and 12 more in OT. As we know, Barber fails to falls down correctly, and Praeter kicks a 59 yard FG followed by a 51 yard FG (No doubt his leg was inspired by Tebow. That or the mile high atmosphere).
Tebow: 21 for 40, 236 yards, TD, Int, Fum Lost.
Then there is DET, Buffalo, and NE which obviously do not help him at all.
by Ken T on Dec 28, 2011 6:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
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Prevent D
No team will make that mistake again. He’s terrible under pressure. Broncos won because of a strong defense and running game; the jig is up on Tebow.
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by propheteer on Dec 28, 2011 8:48 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
the come from behind wins are his own fault
for not being able to make plays when a defense is putting pressure on him
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His defense played effectively
and he had some nice game winning drives. he sucked for most of the games in those entore winning streak.
Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf
he ran the ball better and passed well when the defenses in front of him
went to the crap prevent, he did nothing over all worth a damn
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Yeah
Whatever chance of it being valid was gone after the crapstorm he put against buffalo
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Yep....
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 28, 2011 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
It's not just 1 game
It’s Tebow’s m.o. suck for 3 quarters but not make huge mistakes, and 4th quarter defense get confortable and go prevent D he look better than he is…Against the bills he finally made the mistakes most people thought he would make in the beginning…But yeah he shouldn’t be in the probowl, I think Matt Moore looked better than him.
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
The prevent defense arguement is garbage.
Nobody plays prevent in the red zone, yet he still moves the ball there. Not to mention the insane number of quarterbacks who lose games in the first three quarters and don’t come back and win against the prevent in the fourth. That’s the hidden part of the BS argument. If the prevent defense is that big a failure and Tim Tebow has no part or deseves no credit in winning those five games he and the Bronco’s came from behind in, then why doesn’t it happen every time the prevent is used? Or even most of the time? Or even half of the time? Or even a quarter of the time?
I’m so sick of hearing both people complain about the prevent and people use the prevent to discredit a quarterback who wins from behind. Do you know why the prevent is used so widely even though your average fan thinks it is worthless? Because the vast majority of the time it works when a team is up by multiple scores.
Additionally, the Bears were in prevent when they gave up the touchdown, but not during the two field goal drives. It would be nice if people could stop rewriting history to support and argument they want to build to discredit a kid who, quite frankly, did a hell of a lot better than any of those same people wanted to believe he could do. How many quarterbacks lead five come-from-behind victories a year?
Against the Bills? That’s my point exactly. People had to wait to pick a game that they could point to so they think they can make an argument. This is the same thing as Jay Cutler and the NFC Championship game, before the injury. And the ferociousness with which people will attack Tebow, facts all askew, reminds me of the way Cutler was attacked after the injury.
Tebow-haters are no better than Cutler-haters.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 29, 2011 5:26 AM CST up reply actions
Nothing you've said is incorrect, and all those 4th quarter comebacks by the Broncos' offense is noteworthy of itself.
Here’s my problem with the Tebow selection.
He’s played in 13 games and started ten. For extreme simplicity’s sake (and reducing dilutive effect) let’s whack the 3 non-starts and assume all his stats are accumulated in his ten starts. Even then, he’s still only at 166.9 passing yards per game, going 12-25. Rushing, add in 11.6 attempts – round to 12, for 64.4 yards – let’s call it 65.
So in about 37 touches per game, the ball moves 232 yards thanks to Tebow, and accounts for 1.8 TDs per game. He’s slightly outperforming Christian Ponder as a passer, and Ponder has a higher Y/A than Tebow rushing the ball.
Then there’s the quarterback reliance argument. His highest QB ratings have come… 149.3 against Minnesota (10-15, 202 yards, 2 TD), 102.6 vs KC (2-8, 69 yards, TD), and 101.7 vs SD (4-10, 79 yards, TD). In those three games combined running the ball, he had 19 carries for 94 yards and 2 TDs. So all combined, in his three highest games, he was 16-33, 350 yards, 4 TDs in the air and 19-for-94 rushing for 2 TDs. Those are overall pedestrian passing numbers, and he’s a solid rusher for a quarterback.
Now look at the games where the ball was always in his hand – vs DET (18-39, 172 yards, TD, INT – granted, lost 45-10 – rating, 56.8) and vs CHI (21-39, 237 yards, TD, INT – 70.1 rating). His best games have come when he has only had to throw around 20 times or fewer.
Then there’s the defense argument. They’ve had some fourth-quarter comebacks, sure. But Tebowmania has come when the defense has allowed… 15 points against Miami, 24 against Oakland (Denver scored 38), then 10 against KC, 13 against NYJ, 13 against SD, and 10 against the Bears (we remember that one). You shouldn’t need a fourth-quarter or overtime comeback when your defense is working that well.
I have no problem with Tebow the football player, and his touchdowns and fourth quarter drives are impressive. He’s a smart football player and I like the dual threat he brings. Right now, though, I don’t think he’s a Pro-Bowler, he’s a smart quarterback taking advantage of a defense that was playing really well for him and taking advantage of open throws like he should.
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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 29, 2011 8:58 AM CST up reply actions
And this is going off the Tebow being a second alternate thing.
I wouldn’t have made that vote. (shrugs)
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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 29, 2011 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
I see that as an attempt to increase views of the game.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 30, 2011 1:29 AM CST up reply actions
First, I'm not claiming he's a Pro Bowler.
My sole argument here is the use of the prevent defense as an excuse to discount everything the kid does. It’s a garbage argument. Every team in the league uses the prevent defense when up by two or more scores. And they win using that defense the vast majority of the time.
As to the stats you used, I agree with everything you’ve said (except comparing Ponder’s rushing to Tebow’s. Apples to oranges considering the scheme Denver runs that has Tebow utilized as a running back so often).
But that leaves out the fact that when Tebow came into the league, the experts were all noting that he was so raw that there was no way he could be a contributing player in his first three seasons.
Consider that for a moment. Let it sink in. This kid is so raw that even his supporters believed he was years away from being even marginally successful as a quarterback or even seeing any significant playing time.
Instead, he’s contributed to his team’s success while doing very little to hinder it.
Is he a strong passer? No. But that in and of itself brings up another point….
If a quarterback can throw for 150 yards a game in the NFL and rush for 60-80 and his team win games, why isn’t he a quarterback? Why are people so stringent on what a quarterback has to be? And more-so, why is there such a difference in the perception of Tebow as a quarterback vs. Michael Vick, who never averaged 200 yards a game passing before he was a Eagle? In fact, Vick averaged 154.2 yards per game in 2004 and was a pro-bowl quarterback. All people could talk about was his potential and how he would change the game.
Tebow has started 13 career games. Compare Tebow to Vick, who was widely considered a raw passer who was more fo a running back when he came in. Tebow’s entry reminded me a lot of Vick’s, but with a lot more hate.
(By the way, Vick started two games his rookie season and went to the Pro Bowl in year two)
First 13 starts:
Vick:
2202 passing yards (169.4/game)
11 passing TDs
Four INTs
699 rushing yards (53.8/game)
Seven rushing TDs
2701 total yards and 18 total TDs
Tebow:
2242 passing yards (172.5/game)
15 passing TDs
Nine INTs
806 rushing yards (62.0/game)
15 rushing TDs
3048 total yards and 30 total TDs
Vick was deified when he came into the league. He was the future of the game and you couldn’t watch anything about the NFL without hearing his name. the hype was insane. He was going to change the way the position was played, remember? Yet his production is lesser across his first 13 starts than Tim Tebow’s. And while Vick changing the position was a good thing, somehow Tebow playing to his own tune is just disgusting to the football purists.
BTW, Tebow has attempted an average of 31 passes a game. Vick averaged 24 a game in the same stretch.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 30, 2011 1:27 AM CST up reply actions
You're not. I know that.
Just giving my view. I agree with everything you’ve said.
It’s remarkable what Tebow’s done as a second-year player and a dual threat, but I just don’t think it’s worthy of that level yet, however flawed that level is.
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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 30, 2011 9:05 AM CST up reply actions
I dont hate Tebow
I hate the hype like he’s the best thing since sliced bread…
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Then why attack Tebow rather than the Media that hype him?
Tebow isn’t out there hyping himself on ESPN constantly. In fact, he’s the one praising his defense and his team.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 30, 2011 1:27 AM CST up reply actions
Well people think sacks are everything i guess
Just how ppl thought INTs are everything
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How in blue hell
does Hester not get in? Didn’t he have almost a 20 yard return average this season for PR. Everyone else is a meh, Melton will be overlooked unless he ever breaks 10+ sacks, Peppers, doesn’t need recognition, and no one else in my mind deserved a spot
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Peterson got in with 4 PR for TD's
we’re spoiled when Hester has a “down year” with three returns for TD’s
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what the flip?
I had more written…whatever
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I get PP getting in over Hester
But I don’t have to agree as a Bears fan. Peterson won games for his team thanks to his returns while it was just another mundane/great year by Hester.
If its free, take two.
by T.J. Shouse on Dec 27, 2011 8:05 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Because at the time, teams had to doubl team Tommie to keep him out.
I like Melton, a lot. But nobody is doubling Henry this year.
After the effort he put up this year, I think they may be doubling him in the future, though. But then again, if you double Henry, who has Pep?
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 28, 2011 2:58 AM CST up reply actions
Great point...
Melton shows flashes of potential but he had nowhere the consistancy this season for Pro Bowl consideration. Whether you think he’s a jerk or not, Suh would have much more deserving of Pro Bowl consideration than Melton.
I feel like this is the typical “homer” mentality where fans fall in love with a player off of too few real successes (like Hanie in last year’s NFC Championship game). Let’s give Melton a break, let him develop and prove himself before we put him in the Pro Bowl.
Well said and I think Melton's time will come.
The guy has a great work ethic to be even better. He put on the mass in the offseason to play on the inside and when he started slacking off midseason he responded to Lovie’s criticism’s and began playing well. I think next year he’ll become more consistent and play even better.
by frenchbears113 on Dec 29, 2011 9:17 AM CST up reply actions
Tough to make it at DE with all the good players at that spot in the NFC so at least it is understandable why he didn't make it
Great to see Peanut there, he deserves it.
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Well, it's only fitting
after a season a being held on my all means necessary, he would also be held out of the pro-bowl.
Good for Peanut and Graham. Samo for Briggs, Lach,
If Cutler starts the 2012 season at the level he ended up this one, he could be a contender. Manning has an elite game for every two turdbowls he plays.
by lmfsilva on Dec 27, 2011 7:24 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Excellent
Well, it’s only fitting after a season a being held on my all means necessary, he would also be held out of the pro-bowl.
by David in Maine on Dec 27, 2011 7:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If we get Cutler a true #1
He’s going to post pro bowl stats next year.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 27, 2011 7:47 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Well
Braylon Edwards is free, probably cheap, AND comes from an injury-ridden bad season. JA is probably salivating with the prospect of negociating his contract.
Ugh
One failed reclamation project at WR is enough for me thank you.
If its free, take two.
by T.J. Shouse on Dec 28, 2011 11:32 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Including alternates
The Bears have 7 players in total nominated to the Pro Bowl. I don’t remember there ever being that many from the Bears in a long time.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 27, 2011 7:47 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Peppers and Hester are the alternates
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 27, 2011 7:50 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Tells ya how good we were looking
Before the injury maelstrom wiped out our season.
If its free, take two.
by T.J. Shouse on Dec 27, 2011 8:07 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Exactly
And it also shows just how beefed up this team is for next season’s run at the Super Bowl.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 27, 2011 8:54 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
We had on offensive player make the Pro Bowl ??? What ???
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by MidWayMonster54 on Dec 27, 2011 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
Without being actually nominated for Special Teams no less.
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by badsamaritan on Dec 28, 2011 12:51 AM CST up reply actions
First Chicago skill position player to make a pro bowl since Marty Booker was selected as a reserve for the 2002 season.
and the first Bears running back since Neal Anderson in 1991. Funny enough, Anderson went that year on just 747 rushing yards, six TDs and a 3.6 yards per carry average and a lot of people felt he had no business going to the Pro Bowl.
Funny how those things get forgotten when we’re thinking about how great some of these past rushers were.
Also funny how a team so well known for running the ball hasn’t had a RB in the Pro Bowl in to years until Forte.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 28, 2011 3:36 AM CST up reply actions
Yea I always thought the closest thing we had to a Pro Bowler on offense in terms of skill positions was Thomas Jones
I bet Jerry must be spinning around in his chair with joy as to finally see one of his draft picks on the offensive side of the ball get the nod for the Pro Bowl…
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Dec 28, 2011 8:35 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I've always thought Jones was overrated.
Thomas, too.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 29, 2011 5:46 AM CST up reply actions
So prior to Forte this year
We went 20 years without a pro bowl running back – wow! I would have thought A-train would’ve made it, or maybe Rashaan Salaam, just one time.
Don't forget 2005 (technically 06 Pro Bowl, but for '05 season)
Kreutz. Harris, Lach, Briggs, Mike Brown, Nate Vasher
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 28, 2011 3:11 AM CST up reply actions
2009 (for 2008 season) though
only had Lance Briggs for Chicago.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 28, 2011 3:15 AM CST up reply actions
never mind....
I misread. I thought it said 2006 and 8. My bad.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 28, 2011 3:16 AM CST up reply actions
Besides Forte, Peppers, Graham and Hester
I don’t think anyone else on the Bears really deserved a PB spot.
by Midway Bully on Dec 28, 2011 12:42 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Graham got in on last year's snub, I think.
Cause he wasn’t even the best ST player in Chicago this year. Still good, mind you. But he made some big mistakes and he wasn’t nearly as effective this year as he was last year.
Dom Decicco led ST in tackles and had no misses. Meanwhile Graham was second, but also led the ST unit with four missed tackles (tied with Bowman, who was tied with Brian Iwuh for fourth in tackles). Steltz was third in tackles and also had no misses.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 28, 2011 3:06 AM CST up reply actions
I would say that Graham has a little tougher job on special teams
fighting in many instances 2 blockers on the outside and still making a lot of great plays.
Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf
No disrespect to Forte, but how in the world does he get in over Hester? There are more elite backs than returners. A feather in the Forte camp's hat though.
Congratulations to Tillman, it seems like a weird year for him to get in though.
Because Hester wasn't a running back?
And because before he was injured, he still had a shot at 2000 yards. Forte was being widely talked about as a possible league MVP candidate before his injury. that’s generally good for PB nod.
There’s only one kick returner in the Pro Bowl. Devin wasn’t the top guy this year. It’s that simple. Peterson took more to the house then Devin did.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 28, 2011 3:01 AM CST up reply actions
Hester's got a bad wheel anyway
His production and shoddy decision making since the Detroit game in November has played a bit of a role. His ankle hasn’t been right and he’s looked uncomfortable at times fielding kicks. While it’s nice to get the nod, I think it’s almost better he doesn’t make it because he’s one of the few players who actually enjoys going to the Pro Bowl.
Early voting
When the voting process started, he was a red-hot RB aiming for 1000/1000. I firmly believe almost everyone until the Chiefs game picked him and AP
Babin is a one trick punk
Does he even know how to play the run? Peppers got the old screw job. Last season he got in with 8 sacks; didn’t stop the voters then. PP getting in over Hester is a bit much as well.
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by propheteer on Dec 28, 2011 8:53 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Doesn't tell the whole story
Pepp is typically doubled, while running backs just run right past Babin and his 9 tech.
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A couple weeks ago on Sirius XM NFL,
Clark Judge* said that Babin had been double-teamed in passing situations more than anyone in the league besides Jared Allen, and even how he has drawn the attention of 2+1 blockers at times.
Yes, Babin gets gashed against the run, and doesn’t seem to do much outside of sacking the QB, but if the argument is Peppers vs Babin, I’m not sure how Babin doesn’t get the nod this season.
*I’m 90% certain it was Clark Judge, but can’t remember absolutely.
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Peppers was doubled, held consistently
yet still has 10 sacks….imagine when he’s not held that much…I seriously think he could have 20
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The best part of all this is that the Lions only got one player in!
LMAO I love this..those punks are exploding over there..Of course the Pro Bowl is a joke to them..now
Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf
Eh, it makes sense for them to want Stafford over Eli, he has had a helluva year.
I would have picked him over Manning, at least.
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by badsamaritan on Dec 28, 2011 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't have....
Stafford throws the ball 50 times a game even though the Lions don’t usually play from behind, has a better supporting cast including an All Pro WR, a solid rookie in Titus Young and a good #2 in Burleson, 2 good TE’s in Pettigrew and Scheffler and a defense that’s pretty damn good.
Eli has been playing great with a banged up line, no run game and a mediocre to bad defense that keeps letting teams score at will on them. He does have Nicks and Cruz but no one saw Cruz having the season he’s had. The other good receiver on the team is Manningham and he has been inconsistent and injured. He doesn’t have a TE on par with either Lions TE. I think based off of the situation, Manning has been the better player even though Stafford has the better stats.
by frenchbears113 on Dec 28, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
So if Stafford had Manning's team, stats, and wins would he still not get in?
But if Eli had Stafford’s team, stats, and wins he’d automatically get in? This is what I mean about how this probowl thing doesn’t make any sense to me.
Its not a secret that most NFL players and teams don’t like the Lions. They are considered dirty, undisciplined, and cocky. I’m pretty sure though, knowing the kind of coach Schwartz is, he will use this probowl snub as a motivational tool for the playoffs and it might end up benefitting them in the end.
By the way, do you ever go over to the Acme Packaging Co Packer site? I can’t stand the Packer fans anymore, they are so full of themselves over there. I would love to see a team knock them out of the playoffs in the first round just so I can see all of them come down off of their high horse.
We maybe be fans of division rival teams, but one thing we can both agree on is we both dislike Green Bay and their big-headed fans. As bad of a rep you Chicago guys get (I don’t think is warranted), Green Bay’s fans are by far the worst of the NFC North. You can’t even go over there and say 1 remotely objective thing about their team without them talking smack. Its ridiculous.
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by DLions4Eva on Dec 28, 2011 11:56 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I agree and sadly you've been one of the few classy Lions fans we've had here but I know you're not the only one.
Stafford has had a great year and he would be a Pro Bowler any other year. I just think given the situations between he and Eli, Eli was more deserving. While the Lions don’t have much of a running game, the defense is pretty legit, which is something the Giants D isn’t. The Lions offense is never really put into big holes because their D doesn’t let that happen.
The Giants D is always giving up a lead or just plain sucking, which requires Manning to win them games. I’m pretty sure he’s responsible for at least 6 of their 8 wins. Tuck and Osi haven’t been able to stay healthy and their secondary is either banged up or just bad. The only player on D that has stepped up is JPP. The talent on the Giants D is elite but they don’t play like it and it’s shown big time this year.
by frenchbears113 on Dec 28, 2011 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
What if the Giants lose to the Cowboys in spite of Eli fumbling or throwing picks?
And the Lions get the #5 seed because of Stafford throwing td’s, would you still feel the same? And why would anybody put 7 year vet Eli Manning over a guy who is just on his 1st complete season and broke just about every franchise record there is and got his team to the playoffs for the first time since 99’?
I see your point but its just frustrating for long suffering Lions fans who haven’t had a probowl qb since 1972.
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by DLions4Eva on Dec 28, 2011 1:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not first round
but I can easily see the Saints beating the Pack. I wouldn’t be more happier if someone knocked them off. Their defense is pretty bad at this point. No rush to speak of and they have trouble with big physical O-lines in the running game.
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The only reason I can see Green Bay beating New Orleans is because if they end playing each other
it will be at Lambeau and probably in sub-freezing temperatures. If they played in the dome, I’d take Brees and the Saints.
Actually, the probowl has always been a joke
Not sure why its funny to you considering where your team is headed this year despite the 5 probowlers you got. Just goes to show you probowl berths don’t guarantee wins or healthy players.
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by DLions4Eva on Dec 28, 2011 12:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's funny because your website was imploding over it
and I don’t put alot of stock in it. And don’t kid yourself, if Cutler and Forte don’t get injured you are behind us in the standings this year. We will be back to dismantling the Lions next year.
Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf
Congrats on the 5 probowlers
The Bears defense was pretty good for most of the season. I don’t know if the probowl isn’t a big popularity contest though. It seems to me that if you had a better career or are a bigger name, your chances of getting in are a lot greater.
I’m really confused on how Hester didn’t get in. He’s the best return man of all time and didn’t get in? I never did like the probowl or the way they go about voting people in and this year is no exception.
And another thing, how in the hell did Eli Manning get the probowl berth over Matt Stafford? This is a prime example of how a name or a career overshadows season stats/wins.
Stafford- 36tds, 14ints, 4,515 yds, 63% comp, 96.3 qb rating, 10 wins, first playoff berth in 12yrs and numerous franchise records
Manning- 26tds, 16ints, 4,489 yds, 60% comp, 90.6 qb rating, 8 wins, and maybe a division title
I guess I don’t expect you guys to care, but if the Bears didn’t have Cutler and they were down by 2 touchdowns with 8 mins to go, what quarterback would you rather have, Stafford or Manning?
Again, I didn’t come over here to just rant about my team, but I don’t get how this probowl thing works. People like Hester or Stafford don’t get in but Eli Manning gets in and Tim Tebow might get in with an injury or Superbowl appearence? What is the world coming to?
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by DLions4Eva on Dec 28, 2011 11:42 AM CST via mobile reply actions
The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest
Yeah, Stafford had better stats, but Eli won more “glamor games” (ex., beating the Pats in NE). It doesn’t really matter.
Besides, people get make-up PB nods for getting snubbed the previous year, so expect Stafford to be in Honolulu next year, no matter what his stats are.
by NorthSideBearsFan on Dec 28, 2011 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah I guess but how in the hell does the greatest return man EVER not get in?
I’m not even a Bears fan and I’m upset about that. That guy is the most dangerous player in the NFL in the open field.
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by DLions4Eva on Dec 28, 2011 11:59 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Because Peterson had a better season.
Devin has a better career, but peterson had the better season. Funny enough, you’re mad because the guy with the better career and bigger name was overlooked for a rookie who had a great year…….just saying, bud.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 28, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
Im saying Hester deserved it because NOBODY would kick to him
And he’s been injured. Had he not been injured and people didn’t know he was the greatest return man of all time, he wouldve been in. I’m just saying he was as effective as Peterson without the stats because kickers/punters kick away from him because they respect him that much. That deserves a probowl nod, wouldn’t you say?
Any why am I defending your own guy to you?
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by DLions4Eva on Dec 28, 2011 12:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Wait, we're required to back our own guys unequivocably?
I demand Caleb Hanie receive Pro Bowl consideration!
… Seriously, Hester probably raised his own bar too high given his career, and the Pro Bowl voters wanted someone new in there. Plus, Peterson had a hell of a season as a punt returner – just about comparable to Hester (about 2.0 Yards-Per-Return less) with two extra punt touchdowns. They’ll take the touchdowns every time, even if it came with 14 extra returns.
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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 28, 2011 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
I back Hester all the way.....
But Hester was kicked to 26 times. that isn’t league leading, but he had plenty of opportunities. Peterson took four to the house off of 40 punts. That’s one every ten returns. Hester took 2 in 26, or 1 in every 13 returns. The lack of kicks argument isn’t really fair when he took a lower percentage of his punts to the house.
And by the end of the season, teams were punting away from the rookie kick returner from AZ because they were forced to respect him.
Yes, Devin was injured and yes Devin is both the G.O.A.T. and Superman. But I think the voting is actually correct on this one. Peterson deserved the nod and Hester deserved to get there as an alternate. Both were fantastic.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 29, 2011 5:41 AM CST up reply actions
because eli manning is probably a better quarterback than stafford?
eli manning wasn’t throwing to calvin johnson all year either
Please find Jay Cutler some help...
It's always tough trying to compare QBs who are in much different parts of their careers.
Matt Stafford has only been in the league three years, and this will be his first full season played. Counting this season, Eli will have had seven full seasons on his resume.
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I'm guessing
Archie Manning stuffed the ballot box. But seriously, I agree Stafford should’ve been in. Eli’s had an up-and-down solid season with some exciting comebacks, but I’m surprised the playoff bound Lions didnt get their QB with better numbers in.
If its free, take two.
by T.J. Shouse on Dec 28, 2011 4:03 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I'd take Stafford in a heartbeat over Eli
Cutler would be in the convo if he didn’t get hurt; he was playing the best in his career.
It’s not like Eli has no one to throw to (Nicks, Cruz, and Manningham are all good).
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Peppers should be there no doubt
but he strikes me as the type of person who is just as happy for the his teammates who are first timers as he would be going again himself
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Also, I think players covet the All-Pro nod more.
I’m thinking Pep will be on that list when it is announced in about two weeks.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 29, 2011 5:44 AM CST up reply actions
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