Notes, Scribbles, and Things Jotted Down: Week 12, Chiefs Edition
What. Was. That. ...Seriously. It's about 16 hours from game-end and I still have no idea what can sum it up beside that. But this isn't for summation. I thought for a second I was having a nightmare of being stuck in a 2005 game. Let's get to it, then I'll need to take a hot shower after getting into the filth that was yesterday's game.
- If there wasn't much of a herald this game wasn't going to go our way... The Marion Barber touchdown catch turned penalty. Fourth and one at the four. So you force them to burn a timeout. Then YOU burn a timeout. And somehow after that you let yourself get buzzed on illegal formation?
- I don't like blaming Mike Martz without having a good reason. Explain this one to me though. Third quarter, 4:38 to play, drive starting at the CHI 42. You call four run plays and one 17-yard pass play to get to the KC 7, then another run play for no gain on first down. The next two play calls are deep seven-step drops that allow Hanie to get sacked for 10 yards, then 6 yards, on consecutive plays. Look, I love me some deep passing football, but you're at the bleeping seven yard line - a "deep route" ends up at the back of the end zone overthrown by five yards as if it were to an open Earl Bennett.
- So now that we've had two games of the Caleb Hanie experience... Whatever I might have been impressed with in the fourth quarter against Oakland, well, it's fading. I did see one or two nice throws and rollouts, but the full arsenal just isn't there. The aspect I dislike most, though, is his lack of release. He just doesn't get rid of it quickly enough when (if?) he figures out what he wants to do with it. If he's going to remain the starter, he really needs to improve his decision-making and sharpen his release in a hurry.
- The interceptions... Well, obviously, the third came on the game-ending Hail Mary (How come we can't get ours to work?! But I digress). The first came on the deep throw to Johnny Knox - or should I say, the deep throw to Brandon Carr. It was a similar throw that Hanie got away with against Oakland, only instead of Knox running under it to catch it, Knox overran it and got knocked off his route. Hanie couldn't do anything about the second, it was about as well-delivered as Hanie could do (not saying much) and WIlliams just bobbled the thing right into the Chiefs' lap.
- Quite possibly the worst offensive line performance of the season, compounded by Hanie's extra time spent mulling over his passing and running options over a cup of tea. Louis and Webb were abused pretty much all day. Normally I make a big deal out of 3-4 schemes with blitzing linebackers - I didn't this time. I wish I had.
- So how about that tackling eh? Man these Bears sure can tackle.
- Craig Steltz saw a huge amount of action at safety today in place of Major Wright, who left injured. Thought that was Brandon Meriweather's job. Steltz led the team with ten tackles.
- The Chiefs did a really nice job on Hester. Colquitt punted eleven times (!). Hester only returned three of them. One went 44 yards, the other two went a combined -5.
- The defensive line held up pretty nicely today, some pretty good penetration - although unlike Hanie, Tyler Palko can get rid of it pretty quickly when he finds a guy. Just wish we'd've gotten to Palko more than twice.
- Speaking of getting to Palko, watching Kyle Orton get injured on his very first play as a Chief had to suck. Nicely designed safety blitz that Major Wright almost put a proper exclamation point on.
- Very nice game by the defense all around, except for one play that looked almost like a carbon copy of Jacksonville's Hail Mary last year - batted down into the receiver's stomach. Let it also be said it took that play to get Palko his first passing touchdown, and that kind of game to get Palko to get picked off zero times.
- Speaking of almost-interceptions, I know defensive backs are "receivers that can't catch," but, um, Peanut? Jennings? Next time, can you guys hold on to those?
- I can't be too hard on the defense though, they did just about everything they could against an offense that didn't want to score except for a brief stretch of movement from the end of the first half a bit through the third quarter. These are the games where the offense has to offer even the slightest bit of life, and that didn't happen at all this week.
- Dexter McCluster is a grown-ass ballplayer. Even if they aren't even sure he's a receiver or a running back.
- Can't let this get away... Special teams weren't their usual great selves. Gould missed a field goal, Bowman got hit with a catch interference penalty, and Podlesh has a rough start but redeemed himself a bit. Almost saw the ball kick off a Bear a drive or two after the recovered punt. The coverage units were okay, though.
- Another random playcalling and execution complaint. First drive, fourth and two at the KC 35. Going for it isn't my problem here. Instead... a five step drop and throw to a receiver behind the line of scrimmage with a guy right there? No Barber run, no rollout to the tight end just past the first down marker?
- Third down inefficiency. KC 7-20 (35%), CHI 0-11. Fourth down, KC 1-1, CHI 0-2. I shouldn't have to do that math for you.
- Plays run and TOP: KC 70 plays, 32:42 TOP / CHI 55 plays, 27:18 TOP
- Another disgusting number: Red Zone. The Bears were 0-3, their worst game of the year in that department.
- Penalties, the Bears even won that battle, 5-35, to KC's 8 for 60.
That's all I've got. What's on your mind from yesterday?
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Williams...
He is paid to catch a ball… Hanie threw a practically perfectly placed ball… How do you drop the best ball that was thrown to you all day when your paid to catch a football. That needs to be his last drop this year otherwise he needs to go.
Williams and Knox
both need to go. Knox isn’t developing as well as he should be.
And Williams…man, Williams…he is just horrid at catching the football. There is no more defending him, it should be a ban-able offense.
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by BearNecessities on Dec 5, 2011 7:30 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed.
Williams is a has-been-who-never-really-was and Knox is an imposter. Jesus, if it wasn’t for Bennett, maybe Hester really would be the Bears’ #1…
It also sucks that he seems to drop the big catches for TD's or 1st down on 3rd down
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True
And he’s brought here to make those catches
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
And when he drops them its more amplified than say
Hester dropping a 5 yard pass on 1st down
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If there is one positive thing coming out of this game
It’s the big beautiful smile on Dane’s face when he saw that Steltz lead the team in tackles
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Whats funny is that I think if Steltz put on a few more pounds he would make a good OLB
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
He'd be a fast HH
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and "fast" is giving him credit
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Williams needs to go, Hanie needs to go, Martz needs to go.
Knox is getting better as the year goes on and I think he will be good along with Bennett in the future as long as we get a big bodied reciever that we all know the Bears need. I thought it was funny cause Ive been saying that Robert Meachem would be a great pick up next year in Free Agency and last night he tore up the Saints secondary.
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
Knox is horrible
Runs bad routes, doesn’t fight for extra yards, drops easy passes (yes he has more drops than REW), doesn’t help his QB out by fighting for the ball.
Knox needs to go , Williams needs to go, Webb needs to go… Not sure why Martz needs to go.. i htink he’s done a superb job with what he has to work with. You try calling an offense with no starting QB, the island of misfit toys as your OL, and a bunch of 5’6 tall WR. Not an ideal situation for an OC.
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All this crap about the WR's being to short is getting old
First of there are plenty of successful teams without a starting receiver over 6-1 (Packers?). And Johnny Knox is not short, he’s 6-0. To put that in perspective that’s the same height as Reggie Wayne, Roddy White, Jeremy Maclin and an inch taller than Greg Jennings
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by Joeb'n777 on Dec 5, 2011 8:37 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
THEY'RE SHORT AND TERRIBLE
Give it up.
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Apparently you forgot that Martz is the man who brought in Roy and made him sound like a superhero when he technically shouldnt even be playing in the ufl
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
Actually, Jerry Angelo is in charge of signing players, and the McCaskeys write the checks
Sooo there goes your logic
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Yeah, I understand that but Martz also has the power to do what he wants. That was part of him coming to Chicago
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
No he absolutely does not
We don’t know if Martz wanted Roy. We weren’t there . We don’t know
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Knox is bad
Still doesnt at least bat the ball down…he let the CB get better position on him, it maybe underthrown but still help out your QB
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
are you blind, He had the corner beat, throw it in front of him and he's golden.
I bet you are one of those fans who listened to the commentators saying that it was a great throw by Hanie and blah blah blah… Knox leads the Bears in receptions almost every week (as a 5th round pick at that) and everyone wants to blame him for our WR failures. Sure he is not in the top tier WR class in this league and sure he has his issues, but so do a lot of top recievers out there.
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
He also has lead
the Bears in INTs per target 2 years in a row and drops 2 years in a row
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Right, and if it's not thrown in front of him,
then for God’s sake get back and knock the ball down!
Knock the ball down if you're not gonna catch it!
Thats all im asking of him
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I understand what your saying, Im not saying that he doesnt make mistakes.
What Im saying is that Knox who is about an inch smaller and 15 pounds lighter all the while running all out to get a head of the corner, had no chance to even break that ball up. That was more of a heck of a play by Carr then it was a bad play by Knox. For what its worth, Knox was a 5th round pick out of Abilene Christian. With that said alone, I think he’s done pretty well for himself. Not to mention he’s still extremely young in this game and he has shown a lot of improvement over the last 2 years.
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
To quote Full Metal Jacket
“It’s a big shit sandwich (the Bears) and everyone (us fans) has got to take a bite.”
Worst execution by a Bears team that I’ve seen in quite awhile.
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My vote would be Hanie, but honestly
our whole offensive line is a mess. Dropped passes, missed routes, poor blocking. My gut is telling me these problems never really went away, but Cutler was just THAT GOOD that he was able to mask them and hold the team together enough to make plays when it counted. Hanie simply can’t do that, and the whole offensive line is falling apart.
Not a fun day to be a Bear’s fan :(
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My fellow Bears fans, this season is OVAH!
And I’m not being sarcastic. If you can’t beat the Tyler Palko-led Chiefs at home, you can’t beat anyone. I only saw part of the game, but the offensive line looked horrid, Hanie still looks confused, and the receivers do everything but “receive.”
Defense actually played a solid game that should’ve won if they had even a semblance of an offense to score points.
Say it with me now: “Playoffs? PLAYOFFS?!!”
by NorthSideBearsFan on Dec 5, 2011 8:41 AM CST reply actions
"Don't talk about playoff!"
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by Joeb'n777 on Dec 5, 2011 8:57 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
With the way the receivers and the O-line played today
We’re really starting to see how well Jay has been at compensating for their deficiencies – and masking some pretty big holes in our offense (courtesy of years of neglect by Angelo).
The fact that the game is way too fast for Hanie right now does not help out our O-line, though. Hanie really needs to get into the film room, the playbook, and meetings with Martz so he can prepare himself so that he knows where he wants to go with the ball BEFORE the play begins. If he doesn’t start speeding up his game very soon (like against Denver), he’ll be out of football next year.
I think, after two games, we can see just how valuable Cutler really is to our team.
Sure, he was prone to making mistakes, but he was also able to block them out on the next series and make plays. He is the unquestioned general of our offense and not having him is allowing everyone to regress. Receivers, line, backs, everyone is regressing without Jay in the huddle to calm them down or coach them up.
This season is toast, shut Forte down, let him heal up and get back to 100%. There is no use rushing him back, even though we’re still in the best position for a playoff spot right now. We won’t be after another game or two.
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Yesterday I would have agreed, the season is toast.
Then everyone else who mattered also lost. So, while the Bears aren’t playing like a team that’s capable of beating Denver or even Minny, they still might pull it out and get in at 9-7. If Cutler can come back for the playoffs, then things are looking decent again. But if Cutler can’t, it’s pretty much guaranteed to be a one-and-done postseason.
True, we got all the help we could have.
But did you see anything out of our offense to think that A) they’ll score enough points to win another game this year or B) that they wouldn’t be dead in the water in the playoffs? I didn’t. The defense has such a razor thin margin of error right now that one missed assignment or bad bounce could easily spell defeat for the team.
I guess anything can happen in the playoffs, but a team that limps in doesn’t inspire a ton of confidence, Cutler or otherwise, especially if we’re still without Forte at that point.
"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"
That game was the sporting equivalent of forcing forks into my eyes for three hours.
Just a horrible game by both teams with bad penalties, bad play calling and bad execution. I thought Hanie was to blame for as many sacks as the O-Line, he always seems to hold the ball for one step too many.
While or defense keeps playing the way it’s playing we always have a chance to hang on in games but at no point last night did we look like we might win that. It was every kind of ugly.
I have this horrible feeling
that Cutler will waste away here…Jerry is a terrible GM, our offensive coaches as a whole aren’t that good, our talent is low, defense is old, and soon it will be on Cutler and possibly Forte to carry this team because the Defense will collapse due to age..AHHHHHH
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I was assuming it was obivous the person calling the offensive plays is making questionable calls.
We all see the games. It is not like he is calling plays that are logical, even to an average fan. How about the fact he chooses to ignore the run game while leaning heavily on Hanie to complete Jay-like passes? I dont buy the run/pass percentages. I saw no evidence they were attempting to focus on the run game and take the pressure off Hanie. They were only a touchdown away from taking the lead or tying the whole game, as opposed to down multiple scores late in the game when you are forced to air it out. The guy continues to call plays and series like the ones you mentioned above. If he doesn’t have HOF players, he has demonstrated that he is either unwilling or incapable of adjusting to the strengths of the players he has.
by a biscuit shy on Dec 5, 2011 10:54 AM CST via mobile reply actions
It is simple math the Bears ran 24 pass plays and 24 run plays
thats is not leaning heavily on the passing game, it is a balanced attack.
the offensive line played poorly
the QB over threw a wide open EB which would have been a TD
Marion Barber lines up correctly and that’s an easy TD
Roy Williams uses some stickum and that’s a TD
Hail Mary pass you gotta be kidding me.
Robbie misses a 41 yard FG?
the play calling was good enough to win this game 24-3, if you want to say better play calling would win 48-3 fine maybe I don’t know. We didn’t lose this game on play calling. We lost because our players (almost everyone on the Offensive side of the ball) let us down.
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You're missing the seven sacks on seven additional pass plays,
so 31-24.
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