Pleased To Meet You: Week 13, Denver Broncos
Can we push past this whole Kansas City debacle already? I'm not sure about you guys but I can't put that thing in the rear view mirror fast enough - I swear, after watching it I think I forgot how to watch an actual football game. Oh well though.
So this week we're putting the finishing touches on this AFC West diversion by hoping to finish 2-2 against this division, as we head to Mile High Stadium for what would have been Jay Cutler's homecoming against his former team - only now instead of missing just Jay, the Bears will also be without Matt Forte for this one. Oh joy.
Follow me past the jump and let's take a look at the Broncos...
What They Did Last Year: Finished 4-12, in last place in the AFC West behind general real-life-fantasy-football-team-building-nutcase Josh McDaniels.
Where Are They Now: They've already surpassed last year's win total and currently sit in first place of the AFC West at 7-5, winners of six of their last seven.
When Last We Met: The last time these two teams met was in 2007, when the Bears defeated the Broncos 37-34 in overtime. The two teams traded points all throughout the game, then trailing by two touchdowns, Adrian Peterson ran for a touchdown and Bernard Berrian caught one from Rex Grossman to send the game to overtime, where Robbie Gould punched the game-winner through the posts. Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler (where've I heard that name before...) went 17-31 for 302 yards, 2 TDs and a pick.
So Jay Cutler has not played a regular season game against his old team, and won't play this week.
Offense:
Right now the best way to describe the Broncos' offense is as a Wildcat/college option hybrid punctuated by speed, misdirection, an effective running attack with hard-to-bring-down running backs, and a just-decent-enough passing game that catches opponents by surprise. Tim Tebow might "just win", but the numbers actually do show a decent offensive player. The Broncos are a team that runs hard between the 20s, will pass when it's there, and will throw for touchdowns and try to take care of the ball. Tebow's second on the team in rushing with an excellent 5.7 Yards-per-carry and 3 touchdowns, only throws for about 105 yards per game, but has 10 passing TDs to 1 INT. Ten. To. One. It may be a small sample size, but those are some impressive numbers right there - the passing yardage just doesn't do him justice. He'll never be a pocket passer no matter how much he wants to be, but give him some space and an open receiver and he can still gash a defense.
As far as the Broncos' other weapons, Eric Decker is a favorite red-zone target with 8 of the team's 18 touchdown receptions and Willis McGahee leads the team in rushing with 886 yards and 4 TDs. The team's got some decent run-after-catch skills with the running threat Tebow and McGahee provide, as Tebow's 14.1 yards-per-completion even outclasses Kyle Orton's 10.8 as a Bronco.
Defense:
Defensively, the Broncos love to rush the passer. Exhibit A, Von Miller, A.K.A. A Grown-Ass Man. Through eleven games, Miller has 10.5 sacks, 4 deflections, 3 fumbles forced and 58 total tackles on a defense with 33 sacks. Then there's defensive end Elvis Dumervil with 6.5 sacks, Ryan McBean with 4, and you start to see they get a lot of sacks from a number of guys. Against the pass, they won't light up the interception column (only 9 interceptions and 46 passes deflected) and they allow plenty of touchdowns (22 reception touchdowns scored, ranked 28th-worst in the league), but due to the gap-blitzing they employ, they're very stout against the run in the red zone - they've given up only five rushing touchdowns on the season, the third fewest in the NFL.
If the Bears do this...
Remember everything you did against Kansas City? Do the opposite of that. Seriously. That means no getting Hanie sacked seven times, no dropping opportunities for touchdown passes even if you're just trying to knock the ball down, no missing field goals. Reducing the number of Hanie's required reads should help quicken his decision making and, thus, help him get the damn ball out faster, which should help him play better before the fourth quarter. Roll him out, get him away from the pass rush, and get him throwing downfield to a couple of guys.
If the Broncos do this...
Step one, locate Tebow. Step two, be fast enough to disrupt the play. One of the things that helps the Bears' defense is their speed, which should counter what makes the option work in college - being more athletic than the guys who aren't going to make football their career. Unlike the college option though, Tebow can actually throw a little bit on the move, even if the pass sucks, so the cornerbacks have to stick to Decker et al, even when Tebow's out of the pocket. Tebow may not make many mistakes, but the Bears have to keep him contained behind the line of scrimmage.
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We're doomed.
Tebow will break loose and the Broncos D will prove too much for the Bears offense, yet again.
Broncos 17, Bears 6
Pump your brakes,
The Bears defense is ALL about keeping the play in front of you, and has been proven effective against scrambling qbs.What better way to put the worst two games in recent memory behind them, than stopping someone else’s winning streak.
Good positive first comment
But seriously, we still can win. Not sayin’ it’ll be pretty but there’s still a chance. I like our d against that o. Plus, we can’t get smited (smoted? Smitten?) Three straight weeks.
If its free, take two.
by T.J. Shouse on Dec 7, 2011 3:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I hate to be Debbie Downer
I believe in our defense. But if our offense can’t produce any points it’s still tough to win, no matter how good our defense plays. Not unless defense manages a pick 6.
missing number 6
by Jessica312 on Dec 7, 2011 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
My concern is the offense, really
The Broncos D is a solid unit, and certainly better than the one the Chiefs fielded.
The Bears D has played lights out the last two weeks. I think they have the ability to shut down Tim Tebow, but can they do enough to make up for the lack of production on the offensive side?
I think the Bears need to spend more time running a no-huddle, hurry-up style offense with Hanie under center. In the NFCCG and the last couple of weeks, his best moments came from the 2-minute drill.
Yes, there’s a good chance for more picks if you’re throwing it a bunch, but watching the last two weeks, it really feels like the Bears can’t move the ball without playing in a hurry-up mode.
As far as "do the opposite"...
That applies ONLY to the offense. If the D plays a virtually identical game as they played last week (silly Hail Marys notwithstanding), we should still be in this one.
True that
I have a feeling the Bears’ D is gonna suffocate Tebow – they’re gonna be pissed at how they lost last week. Tebow will throw or run for a TD, but thats it. Bears 13-10.
If its free, take two.
Yea
That 13 involves a possible defense or hester td or at least some short field points scored.
If its free, take two.
by T.J. Shouse on Dec 7, 2011 5:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Tebow seems real good with his fakes
The Bears have to maintain gap control, and not get caught out of position.
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 7, 2011 4:01 PM CST reply actions
You are right, Lester
Tebow is maybe the most ‘discipline-tester-QB’ I’ve ever seen in this league. But when he faces a physical, fast and in position defense, he can be in trouble… like he was against the Jets, althought making an awesome 95-drive to win the game.
This signature was sacked by Von Miller.
I bleed Orange & Blue.
by Fabio Broncos on Dec 8, 2011 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
I think our defense can contain Tebow
But if our offense can’t produce any better than last week, there’s still no way we can win. Simply can’t win with no points (stating the obvious LOL). Maybe if our defense can force a few more turnovers… But even then, turnovers are worthless if they don’t result in points, which judging from last game, our offense is hellbent on NOT giving us. Sacks, drops, missed routes, ball bobbles… many a good field position simply left hanging. Many POINTS left hanging because of poor play. Just sad, sad, sad. If our offense doesn’t shape up this week, best we can hope for is lights out from the defense and D giving us a pick 6 or forcing turnovers in Field Goal range for Gould to come in and do his thing. Otherwise, I’m expecting another loss.
missing number 6
Trust me
I would love to be the team that ends this Tebow love-fest. I would love to take a little control and show that we’re not going to just lie down and pass on this season.
But really, I haven’t seen anything aside from the defense these last two weeks that shows we’re capable. So I’ll be there on the couch this weekend, watching from start to finish, hoping to be proven wrong.
I still think our D is the better suited to stop Tebow
however, I’m not seeing much on turnovers, but forcing out three-and-outs. They’ll manage between 9 and 17 points, the question is if the offense can put more that 3 points. Most of Tebows’ miracles come from the defense hanging the game close enough to be still within 7 or 10 points with 10 minutes left on the clock. With Cutty, I’m sure we could score a few while the D holds them at a distance, giving a good enough cushion for the fabled Tebow Time. With Hanie I can’t see more than punt, punt, punt, punt, int, punt, FG.
I would agree with most of that
The Bronocs defense had a horrible time against Rodgers and Stafford. With Cutler in this game, maybe he represents the same type of passing prowess to take advantage of Andre Goodman, and to put the sky high enough to be out of reach. But without Cutler? Without Forte now, too. Judging by the performance against the Chiefs, I’d bet the Bears offense can’t put up enough points to give us those problems or to put the game out of reach during Tebow Time.
DROY is almost an insult to the great Von Miller at this point. Methinks he deserves a back-door pass to the next Victoria's Secret Fashion Show for a chance to sack an Angel - Miranda Kerr, maybe.
Should be a long day for your QB, IMO
I’m not trying to make excuses or to make our secondary look amazing (Andre Goodman is not a very good CB2). Just saying that the TD total and average yardage is slightly misleading. Before Percy Harvin made Ponder look like Aaron Rodgers against us this last week, we held Rivers under 200 yards the week before and held Sanchez to 250 the week before and held Cassel to under 100 the week before that.
Harvin’s after-the-catch running is what made Ponder look like Rodgers. His three TDs in that game, plus 3 for Stafford and 4 for Rodgers are the three horrible defensive performances that are askewing the pass stats, IMO.
An additional point on the pass defense here is the overall upward trend. Elvis Dumervil’s sacks, for instance, came in the last five weeks. That’s 6.5 sacks on the season; 6.5 sacks in the last five games. With him and Von Miller (who was out against Harvin and Ponder last week) now in full stride, it’s arguably the top pass-rush in the league. Last time Batman and Robin took the field together, it got so bad against the Chargers that they actually had Rivers stop throwing the ball late so that he wouldn’t get injured. And MIller did end Cassel’s season. And Dumervil left Ponder limping last week (and the HC even admitted at half time that Ponder was incredibly sore). These guys are quarterback killers over the last seven games.
With five 4th quarter comebacks in just ten starts, Tim generally wins when down by 15 or less in the 4th. I just don’t see the banged up Bears putting us in that situation.
DROY is almost an insult to the great Von Miller at this point. Methinks he deserves a back-door pass to the next Victoria's Secret Fashion Show for a chance to sack an Angel - Miranda Kerr, maybe.
You held Matt Cassel to under 100 yards?
Wow, that’s awesome.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
That's all you heard?
I also said our pass rush is probably the best in the league over the past five weeks.
DROY is almost an insult to the great Von Miller at this point. Methinks he deserves a back-door pass to the next Victoria's Secret Fashion Show for a chance to sack an Angel - Miranda Kerr, maybe.
Your pash rush can be the worst in the league
and still sack Hanie 10 times. Because that’s how bad our O-line is.
I was snarking on the Cassel comment.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
Gotcha -)
Yep, it could be a long day for Caleb.
DROY is almost an insult to the great Von Miller at this point. Methinks he deserves a back-door pass to the next Victoria's Secret Fashion Show for a chance to sack an Angel - Miranda Kerr, maybe.
Not to nitpick
But the worst pass rush in the league sacked Caleb only 7 times.
Got give the guy some credit.. somewhere..
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
The guy the Bears have to contend with is Von Miller...
not Teblow. The Denver defense is good and getting better and I do not see the Bears offense managing more than a FG or 2. For the Bears to have any chance in this game, they will have to score on ST AND defense. This will be a close game and I see the Bears losing 17-13. Hanie and co. will continue to disappoint and the defense will surrender the go ahead touchdown late after holding Tebow in check for most of the game. Hanie will throw 3 more INTs and I also see a fumble from the offense.
FORTE: PAY THE MAN!
Our offense sucks royally
but how is the Denver defense ‘getting better’? The Vikings with Ponder moved the ball on them very effectively, and that was WITHOUT AP in the backfield.
Still, Vikes with Ponder is better than Bears O with Hanie and no Forte.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
iowa
we missed v miller badly and minn worte us down in the first haif the biggest play of this game might be the coin toss at the start
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider Stay humble in victory respect all fear none and finish larry soprano
Gotcha
I don’t think you’ll have any problems with our offense, to be honest. Although the fact (as mentioned by Jimmy Mack below) that the Lions, of all teams, shredded you all a few weeks back indicates that your D can be vulnerable on occasion. But there’s vulnerable and then there’s “Don’t have to worry”, and you’re facing a team without our starting QB and RB, guys who were both having almost (almost, but not quite) Pro-Bowl seasons until they got hurt.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
iowa
u are 90 percent right but the DET game was before the opition swich
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider Stay humble in victory respect all fear none and finish larry soprano
Our offense blows
And I’d take Ponder over Hanie. If we’re going to make the playoffs, our defense is going to have to play “lights out” the rest of the way.
I can point to 2 things...
that should indicate the defense playing better:
1. Teblow having any semblance of a chance to be close enough to win near the end of a game where he completes TWO passes.
2. Teblow winning 5 NFL games as a starter.
FORTE: PAY THE MAN!
Good points
man, wouldn’t it be awesome if all Hanie had to do was complete TWO passes at the end of the game for us to win? That’d be awesome.
Of course, if one of those was thrown Roy Williams’ way, then …
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
It wasn't Ponder, it was Percy Harvin
Harvin caught about a ten yard pass and took it 52 yards for a score. Later, he caught about a two yard pass and too it about 50 yards for a score. Additionally, Kyle Rudolph made one of the most acrobatic TD grabs I’ve ever seen from a TE.
Ponder got picked twice (one was a pick-six) and pancaked on nearly every drop back. He didn’t light us up, it was Percy Harvin. So I wouldn’t worry about comparing what another QB did to us, worry about whether you can get the ball to Hester in space like the Vikings did with Harvin. That’s your chance, IMO>
DROY is almost an insult to the great Von Miller at this point. Methinks he deserves a back-door pass to the next Victoria's Secret Fashion Show for a chance to sack an Angel - Miranda Kerr, maybe.
guys
i might not be the best judge of this since i am a broncos fan but u best hope is to get 21 points and hold on for dear life if u do not get at least 2 Turnovers i do not see how u can win denver loves low scoreing games i feel hanle will get sacked at least 5 times u only hope is to get the ball first score then get a 13-3 16-6 lead in the 4th i say 14-10 Den
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider Stay humble in victory respect all fear none and finish larry soprano
You have to be loving the run you are on with Tebow.
Great story and I’ll be pulling for you guys after this game. If our offense can do anything at all, I have confidence in our D. The Bears linebackers do a great job containing running qb’s and I think we can get a pick or 2 on Tebow if we take away the run game. Good luck to you Jeremy!
i am
loveing it your D is top 5 and u have a better roster top to bottom but we are playing with so much confeidce right now this is a magic run right now for denver u can win but the last 5 weeks esp the last 2 i can see their confeidce just growing and growing minn took away the run last week and tebow showed he coluild make some plays with his arm 88 D Thomas couild be a matchup ploem for u guys he is a poor man calvn johnson with inj plomemles
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider Stay humble in victory respect all fear none and finish larry soprano
Reverse Psychology
For two weeks in a row, I have predicted a Bears win, albeit after Martz has me pounding my head on the coffee table (my wife is getting really tired of that) with his play calling, but a win nonetheless.
SO, my new prediction is simple:
Teblow dominates us, confusing the cover-2 to the level that makes Lovie suck is thumb on the sideline. Our offense can’t get out of its own way. Hanie will be out to prove that the 3 picks the last two games was a fluke. In response, he will throw 4 picks. In a moment of pure genius, Martz will try the “wildcat triple-reverse flea-flicker” to the tune of a 29 yard loss (Poor execution). Barber will have a solid game, and will score a TD, but it will be waived off for a illegal motion because he starts before everyone else on the offense. Gould will line up for a chip-shot field goal. After the announcer says Gould is “money” from this range, he will boink it off the upright. Just for fun, I will predict gate-68 gets in the game and performs beautifully, only giving up 3 sacks in 9 plays, with 2 false starts.
Yes, I know my screen name is out of date.
I would take that in a heartbeat
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
Today is a good day for baseball
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Dec 8, 2011 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
This the recipe for passing success
give him some space and an open receiver and he can still gash a defense.
You could say that about any NFL QB. The Vikes secondary is decimated and looked like a college team on Sunday. Tebow’s wobbling passes would’ve been picked by most defenses.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
my take
"the chicago bears, unable to stay home and play ‘dance, dance revolution’ on their xbox, traveled to denver and in a shocking upset, beat the tebows 28 – 20. ‘we prayed on it’ said bears middle linebacker brian uralacher, ‘then we decided to open a can of ass whoop instead’. the bears made nfl history by scoring all of their points on defense and special teams."

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