WCG Chicago Bears Draft Board: Defensive Backs
Cornerback is, in my opinion, the 4th most pressing need for the Bears, which is why this week's WCG Draft Board will focus on the 2011 corner back prospects. Charles Tillman turned in a solid year at corner and should have gotten some consideration for the Pro Bowl. He's pretty much a lock to start at either RCB or LCB next season. Who will be playing on the other side of him is a mystery. While Tim Jennings had his highs, he most certainly had plenty of lows, most notably the NFC Championship game. Zachary Bowman was supposed to be the #1 corner this season, but his lack of recognition hurt him in week 3 and he was benched for Tim Jennings. Joshua Moore is a player I am really high on for next year because he's touted as a very good man to man corner, but just needs to bulk up more.
The Bears have a glaring hole at CB which is why we're focusing on the top 15 prospects entering this year's draft.
#1 Patrick Peterson, LSU- Unless he seriously messes up the interviews or suffers a significant injury leading up to his pro day workouts, we won't have a shot at the best corner back in the draft. Most mock drafts have him going in the top 5, and at worst he won't slip past 7. Highlights
#2 Prince Amukamara, Nebraska- Prince is the closest thing to resemble Namdi Asomagah. He is a true shutdown corner because of his ability to take away a whole side of the field. Highlights
#3 Brandon Harris, Miami- A great athlete at the CB position, Harris reminds me a lot of Packers corner Tramon Williams. I would like to see him get a little stronger so he can develop into a complete CB at the next level. Highlights
#4 Aaron Williams, Texas- I waffle at who should be after Brandon Harris between Aaron Williams, Jimmy Smith, and his teammate Curtis Brown. I put Williams #4 because he's the most tremendous athlete of the 3. He is really good in man coverage and also has good range in zone coverage. Highlights
#5 Jimmy Smith, Colorado- Big corner that's not afraid to come down and mix it up. Not much of the athlete like Williams; just does his job - and does it very well I might add. Highlights
#6 Rashad Carmichael, Virgina Tech- A lot of mocks have Curtis Brown as the first corner after the obvious 5, but not me. Rashad Carmichael's physical talent put him here at #6. Has good ball skills, physicality, and can play man. He's definitely a guy the Bears should look at in the 2nd round. Highlights
#7 Curtis Brown, Texas- Small corner, but is quick and fast enough to play man coverage. Because of his slim build, he will have trouble trying to press big receivers at the next level.
#8 Ras-I Dowing, Virginia- Really don't know why most draft experts and mocks soured on Dowing. Dowing is a solid man to man defensive back, very physical, with good ball skills. If he is available with the Bears 2nd pick or even their 3rd round pick, it would be a steal. Highlights
#9 Kendrick Burney, North Carolina- Burney is a very good instinct player which helps him overcome his size. Mike Mayock has compared him to Brandon Flowers, which is pretty high praise. Highlights
#10 Johnny Patrick, Louisville- Very underrated (or at least to me he's underrated). Patrick is a decent sized corner with solid man coverage skills. Reminds me a lot of last year's pick Joshua Moore, but is a little stronger. Highlights
#11 Brandon Burton, Utah- Not really a physical corner, as he can get swallowed up in the run game. Coverage-wise he is pretty good and has the potential to get even better with the right coaching. Highlights
#12 Devon House, New Mexico- Most likely a project because he's small at 178 lbs, but he does have the ball and cover skills to play on the outside.
#13 DeMarcus Van Dyke, Miami- Just like House, Van Dyke has to beef up but he flashed potential at the senior bowl. Not likely to come in right away and play, and I would suggest that he develops behind a solid veteran starter for a couple years.
#14 Shareece Wright, USC- Another guy that benefited from the Senior Bowl, Wright's stock might have shot up to the 3rd round with an impressive performance.
#15 Jalil Brown, Colorado- Brown is the sleeper of this year's corner prospects. The fact that he was targeted less because of Jimmy Smith on the other side and still had a break out season speaks volumes.
Mock CB pick for the Bears: Rashad Carmichael, Virginia Tech
I don't see the Bears going CB in the 1st round, but I can see them going for one in the 2nd which is why I chose Carmichael. Carmichael would be an ideal fit for Lovie's Tampa-2 scheme because he's really physical which is what you want in that scheme out of your corner. He also is pretty good at man to man coverage which I notice Lovie and Marinelli playing more of towards the end of the season.
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I think I would prefer ....
….. Jimmy Smith . His size is great ( 6’2" 202 ) & he really seems like our type of corner .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
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by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 10, 2011 8:25 PM CST reply actions
Looks like this draft is CB rich
We should be able to get a solid player in the 2nd or 3rd round. I would have no problems spending a high draft pick on this position.
look what GBs shut down CBs did for that team down the stretch, they basically saved the win VS. the Bears in the week 17 game, the NFCCG, and the SB with shutdown INTs or bat downs late in those games.
CB is such a key position with the passing game really taking the front seat in this league, its a place where mistakes can be game changers or game savers depending on your persective.
We have an almost full draft card this year, lets really pull in some talent. I expect big things from the cult of ex-head coaches this draft.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Feb 10, 2011 8:41 PM CST reply actions
A disruptive 3 technique Defensive Tackle.
by Dominique Blanton on Feb 10, 2011 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
I am just not sure we need a new DT over a shut down corner
With the paradigm shift to passing in the past decade I think Corner is taking on much more significance than in the past. A beast a DT would be nice but I think that having shut down corners is so huge these days. I put CB at need 3 and DT at need 4, just my 2 cents.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Feb 10, 2011 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
A dominant DT
will make any corner look better than they are. Disrupt a QB’s timing and the corners job becomes a lot easier.
by Digs D-League on Feb 10, 2011 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
I know the arguement but a QB like Rodgers who can rollout
can make it happen even after the pocket has been disrupted which is why the CBs role is becoming more important. I see QBs all going the Mike Vick mobility route in the next 10-20 years, the era of the pocket passer is about to be left behind. Cam Newton is just the beginning, I see this as the future of the league. This kind of mobility neutralizes the DT to some extent.
But we could go all day arguing this so I will agree that I see your point and offer a counter point. We will see what JA thinks as his opinion is the one that matters.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Feb 10, 2011 10:18 PM CST up reply actions
How well can the DE's collapse the pocket?
The DL is a synergistic entity… Create greater pressure inside, easier to maintain contain outside.
Not to mention: The Bears have outstanding speed in the LB position… and the CB’s we do have are good tacklers… I don’t think the mobility issue has neutralized the DT in a 4-3, but instead put a greater emphasis on speed, and more specifically closing speed.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Feb 11, 2011 8:05 AM CST up reply actions
The two go hand-in-hand
We haven’t gotten any pressure up the middle since Harris was himself. If we get that middle pass rusher back, it takes the pressure of the corners – and all of the sudden Jennings (or whoever) starts looking better.
I would say
Since Harris played beyond himself. When there are more ok years than good years, ok has to be the norm.
What was 2
I figure the Olineman was first. Sorry if I am just missing it somewhere
by TheMan1 on Feb 10, 2011 11:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
In the second round?
Gimme the dice. Well. Receivers? Most of the time? Gimme the dice.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Feb 11, 2011 8:06 AM CST up reply actions
I forgot to link my past posts
- Offensive Line #2 Wide Receiver #3 Defensive Tackle #4 Defensive Backs. Just go to my profile page to view those posts.
by Dominique Blanton on Feb 12, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
Keep Dreamin :(
The chance of him dropping out of the 1st half of the 1st round are Slim and None,
… and Slim has left town!
pbanachi
We'll see !
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 10, 2011 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
OK!
Bet ya a Steak dinner next time I’m back in Chicago :)
pbanachi
Hmmm steak you say ?? Where exactly do you have him going again ? Honestly ...
…… I think no later than 29 or 30 depending on how he does at the combine .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 10, 2011 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
Jimmy Smith?
He should go about 15, 16 or so, … a pretty decent bet for you.
No way he drops all the way down to us even in the 1st at 28.
pbanachi
A lot mocks have him towards the end of the 1st.
by Dominique Blanton on Feb 10, 2011 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
And where do we pick ......
…. at the end of the first .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 11, 2011 12:09 AM CST up reply actions
Yep, but I don't think he will be the best player available when we pick.
by Dominique Blanton on Feb 11, 2011 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
Depends on whos there when we pick . I'd like to see him ...
…. when we pick , but as long as we get the best player on the board I’m good .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 11, 2011 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
Look!
Just in Texas alone, … Dallas and Houston BOTH have horseshit secondarys and they both draft in the first ten or so!
pbanachi
Love all the previews and positional breakdowns
If they keep Tommie, CB becomes a greater need than DT. The Bears are one injury away from being very shallow at the position. That’s not a great recipe for success with the great WRs in the north.
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Mike Mayock has compared him to Brandon Flowers, which is pretty high praise.
No-one’s done the obvious reference to the lead singer of The Killers yet? Great band, the only one that’s got me excited in several years.
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Bulkin Up!
Yea, what’s the scoop on Joshua Moore? Can he do more than 2 reps yet?
When I first saw that I suggested that they move his locker up from the Rookie Basement to the Weight Room.
Hope he did himself some good there this year!
Go Bears!
pbanachi
I really don’t see them drafting a WR high in the draft, OL, CB/DT, and maybe in the fourth a wideout.
by transylvanian bear on Feb 11, 2011 6:30 AM CST reply actions
We have options...
Which I guess is a good thing for the draft. As long as we address 3 of the 4 top needs (O-Line, WR, CB, DT) in first 3rd rounds of draft or with a big free agent signing, I’ll feel ok with it. I know we could use a DT, but would like to see us really address other 3 needs first. J.A.’s track record suggests otherwise.
If its free, take two.
If we're talking DB's
I like cornerback Ras-I Dowiling from Virginia. At 6-2, 200 he’ll be able to matchup better with the taller receivers we’ll face (ie, Mike Williams career day in week 6). I’m done with Jennings after seeing him get torched by Green Bay in the NFCC. I think Dowling may be available in the 3rd.
by boondock_saint812 on Feb 11, 2011 7:14 AM CST reply actions
Ras-I Dowling is a better Bowman
IMO… If Bowman isn’t the answer. Ras-I Dowling should be, and groomed to be the eventual successor to Peanut.
One thing you can’t learn is size… and if he has the ability to match up, press Jennings and Harvin at times? ALL THE BETTER.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Feb 11, 2011 8:18 AM CST up reply actions
We definitely need size
If we keep the Moore brothers and Jennings, we have good depth along with Bowman behind Tillman, but really need a guy with size that can challenge Tillman in a year or two for the top spot. Can’t rely on an aging (but still good) Tillman to cover teams’ top guys week after week if they’re too big/physically for the rest of the CBs.
If its free, take two.
I like Ras-I Dowling
He might go higher than where most mocks have him (consensus say 3rd rounder) once the combine and pro day is all done. If he is there in the 3rd it would be a huge steal, but if not we still can get a good quality DB because it’s a deep class.
by Dominique Blanton on Feb 11, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
I agree...
I think Dowling would be a great steal if he is available in the 3rd. I’m not sure if I would be comfortable using a 2nd on him though. Great defender with real good instincts.
by I Have Bearsititis on Feb 11, 2011 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
It looks like
We might need to take a cb in the 2nd. A lot of mocks have most of these guys gone in the 3rd when it’s our turn.
You're never a loser until you quit trying - MIke Ditka
2nd round is probably the best bet for a CB
i expect a DT in the 1st (unless we’re drafting OTs, which i suspect we aren’t) because of value, a CB in the 2nd that can presumably compete for a starting spot (given the depth at CB in this class, we should be able to get a good one there), then guards in the 3rd and 4th round. i don’t see us picking a WR because they bust more than others, they usually take a few years to develop, and they may not have much of an offseason to work with coaches to learn the playbook, etc due to the probable lockout. WR makes sense as a FA target.

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