Chicago Bears Musical Chairs - Who're the odd men out?
Conversations are flying around here on the prospects for free agency and the 2011 NFL Draft. Who should the Bears Draft in the first round? What holes in the roster are the highest priorities to fill? What, if any, free agents should the Bears pursue? Should the Bears trade for (X) player? These questions have spawned some entertaining and informative posts and debates.
But the other side of this conversation has gone untouched, for the most part. Who should be given their walking papers? Who is most expendable to make way for new blood? Who will soon be the next former Chicago Bears?
The Bears cannot add without subtracting, as we all know. To sign new draft picks or trade for players without making room on the final roster, isn't possible. And the Bears have plenty of free agents of their own to deal with, including Caleb Hanie, Kahlil Bell, Garrett Wolfe, Devin Aromashodu, Danieal Manning, Anthony Adams, Rashied Davis, Josh Bullocks, Corey Graham, Desmond Clark and Olin Kreutz. Add to all of this the 11 players the Bears have signed to futures contracts and the 2 players returning (possibly) from injured reserve and some familiar faces from 2010 are not going to be here in 2011.
But who? Obviously, past performance is a great place to start. Money will be a factor, as well, especially with the amount of cash tied up in players like Peppers, Cutler, Urlacher, Tinoisamoa, Hester, Tillman, and Briggs. Some obvious names come to mind immediately, but what is obvious to us as fans is not always so black and white to Jerry Angelo, Lovie Smith, and the front office; especially when you consider the talent available to replace players with and the fact that Chicago will not be the only city in the hunt for these players.
The offseason is here, the 2010 season is but a memory and the Chicago Bears are your 2010 NFC North Division Champions. But to sustain their momentum, the Bears are going to have to improve.
The Packers certainly will improve without doing anything but getting healthy. Add to that their draft history, FA possibilities, and that the Pack figures to be very, very strong next year. And while the Vikings are in rebuilding mode, they managed to win 6 games this year while dealing with an utter trainwreck of circumstances. And the Lions, who are on the path to full recovery from chronic win deficiency and who will provide great opposition next season. Winning the division will be harder next year than it was this year. If the Bears are going to repeat as division champions, they will have to continue improving, as well.
This week, we will take a look at our beloved Bears, and discuss who could be getting the axe. We’ll take into account past performance, money issues, systematic problems, and some intangibles to try and finger who could end up as the odd men out. Join us here tomorrow as we delve into the defensive backs. Same Bear time, same Bear channel!
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We need a great (I mean 3 starters great) draft and a FA veteran pick up or three.
Veteran O-lineman, veteran cornerback and a veteran wide receiver and then draft one of each of those plus a D tackle.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
On a completely unrelated note
How do you say your last name? Is it Hock (sounding a little like hawk) or hoke (sounding a little like poke) and then is there an “eh” before the meyer? Just curious.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Hock, no eh, meyer.
lol
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 15, 2011 2:53 AM CST up reply actions
Nice...
on a side note, your front page article is shorter than most of the comments you post. You feeling ok? :)
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Feb 15, 2011 12:01 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
This HAS to be rec'd
for being complete truth.
by Steven Schweickert on Feb 15, 2011 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
I'll rec that....
and no, I haven’t been feeling all right. Been a bit under the weather. Thanks for asking :)
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 15, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
That's funny
you wrote exactly what I was thinking. Let’s round up the rec.
"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse
Looking forward to it
Also, good stuff getting some night links.
I would be interested to see what the cap is and how each persons salary contributes. Also what total contract value they are getting, signing bonus etc. Not sure if such is possible but would be interesting. I know some contracts info isn’t available and all.
I think it would provide some perspective to all those saying sign Mankins, V-Jacks and Asomugha all in one off season.
Would be especially interesting to compare now to when (if) the season starts roster wise.
T-Train, where art thou?
It’s so strange to see the writers real names after knowing them for so long by a pen name of sorts.
Congrats dude, you’re the right man for the job!
Pisa was only signed to a one-year deal last year?
"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse
Is D.A. a free agent?
He’ll probably be an odd man out with his lack of production and special teams acumen.
If its free, take two.
by T.J. Shouse on Feb 14, 2011 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
Pisa signed a one year deal in April.....
He is a FA in 2011.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 15, 2011 3:01 AM CST up reply actions
Sorry about the question mark; I revised, but forgot to change it.
Money will be a factor, as well, especially with the amount of cash tied up in players like Peppers, Cutler, Urlacher, Tinoisamoa, Hester, Tillman, and Briggs.
Pisa isn’t part of this equation.
"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse
Depends on whether they sign him again....
He’s had a large contract last season, and I don’t see that price falling a lot. Some, but not a lot.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
Caleb Hanie – No
Kahlil Bell – Eh. If we keep Taylor… Maybe. If we go Forte, Unga, Wolfe… Keep Bell… That’d be ok too.
Garrett Wolfe – ST Contract? Sure.
Devin Aromashodu – Yes
Danieal Manning – No
Anthony Adams – No
Rashied Davis – I can go either way…
Josh Bullocks – Yes… That was an interesting sign too if you ask me…
Corey Graham – Depends on if he asks for starter money
Desmond Clark – Yes (but I’d rather it be a no)
Olin Kreutz – No
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
I really think Aromashodu's done
If they (the powers that be) wanted to keep him they gave him little to no playing time this year to indicate it. As much as the fan’s like him the coaches don’t. I think he’s gone.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
I remain a pessimistically hopeful Bears fan.
Oh yeah.
That is one behind closed doors conversation I would have killed to be privy to. To say that he wasn’t breaking out at the end of last year and on his way to.. well, something better than he ended. Yes.
I do think someone’s going to look at this situation, and be like, that Smelly-shadu. He’s got some potential, just that weirdo Martz never understood what I did. Probably St. Louis. Josh McDaniel’s probably has a chip on his shoulder over it.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Feb 14, 2011 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
I'd like to see Adams return
As long as the contract is reasonable. Tommie Harris will be a goner unless he restructures.
If its free, take two.
by T.J. Shouse on Feb 14, 2011 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
They want to resign Adams
He’s been their most consistant run-defender.
Wolfe needs to be cut- bust out loud.
D. Manning will thrive now he’s actually playing his natural position. Gee, it only took the Bears four years to figure it out. Yeah, he got burned a couple of times late in the season, but he had his best year by far.
Aroma’s gone cause he’s not a complete WR, nor does he fit in Martz’s scheme.
Kreutz will be back; he was the Bears highest rated linemen. He’s still good, and I don’t trust their awful line with another inexperienced member.
Why would they resign Clark? He’s old, and they showed zero desire to play him.
"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse
I believe Mr Hamsta will be paying you a visit shortly.
He does not take kindly to Wolfe being short-changed.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
Clark is gone
and I think Manning might be as well… I think he might want a fresh start
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 15, 2011 9:02 AM CST up reply actions
Cut Hanie???
But isn’t he our new starter?
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
I literally completely disagree with you
Hanie=Keep, you need more than 1 QB right?
Kahlil- Keep him and Unga, get rid of Wolfe
GW-See above
DA-no way, they will either pickup a FA or draft one, let him go
DManning-Yes, he was pretty dependable last year, and you have Craig Steltz as your depth, keep.
Adams-You need a 3-technique, but he and Toenia did a decent job at the other position. keep
RD-You can keep him cheap as ST/5th WR
Josh Bullocks-Never saw him, must not be that good, let him go
Graham-he wont get starter money anywhere, cheap ST contract
Dez-Love to keep him, but i think they are past him and ready for Kellen Davis to start making an impact
Olin-You must keep him, he was the best OL for this team last year, and he leads that OL and lockeroom. Keep him at the very least to help groom the next C the Bears draft.
by Andrew Sturtevant on Feb 15, 2011 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I like this plan
Althought keeping Manning will be difficult since he’s already been disgruntled (last year’s tender) and rejected an extension during the ‘10 season. Between Davis, Graham, and Wolfe, I’d like to keep two out of the 3 for special teams prowess, especially Graham, but he may look for another opportunity elsewhere to get CB playing time. For RBs, it likely depends on Taylor (should keep) and whether they need Wolfe for special teams (hopefully not); I’d like to keep Bell and Unga to see if they could grow into a backup RB when Taylor gets too old and ineffective (like, last year).
If its free, take two.
by T.J. Shouse on Feb 15, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
Same here
I had the opposite pick for every player that he had. I almost thought he was a troll at first sign he didn’t really give any in depth reason for his choices.
Niemi was good, but Turco has a force field...
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Feb 15, 2011 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
Um, I think you misunderstood him
He said “no” to Hanie – as in “no, he’s not the odd man out and shouldn’t be cut.” The rest of the list is the same.
If you look at his list like that, you’ll find – as I did – that you’ll completely agree with everything on it.
by NorthSideBearsFan on Feb 15, 2011 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
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in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 15, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
Yep.
No = Don’t release
Yes = Release.
The question was
“Who’re the odd men out?”
No, they’re not the odd men out.
Yes, they’re the odd men out.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Feb 15, 2011 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
Have to disagree on several of these
Especially on Kreutz, Adams and Manning. Right now, we don’t have enough depth, and we need all 3. Why would you keep Josh Bullocks and let Manning go?
And why cut Hanie? It’ll be his second year in the system, and he looked okay in the NFC Championship when Cutler went down.
Can i call you Timmy?
A templar undercover named Keith Bogans trying to sabotage the Brotherhood's efforts using his mind tricks to the head of the Assassin order by the name of Thibs (thats it just thibs)
HE will fight and take on the Templars along with the Brotherhood, HE is Derrick Rose and he is an Assassin.
Nothing is true, Everything is permitted...
LOL.....
Only my mother and father call me that, but if it makes you feel better, call away.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 15, 2011 2:57 AM CST up reply actions
They need to get rid of Jerry Angelo
if there is to any progress!! His drafting is terrible!
"Most important thought, if you love someone, tell him or her, for you never know what tomorrow may have in store." ~ The Great Walter J. Payton.
I like the sign off...
Same Bear time, same Bear channel. You should definately make it your signature post ending.
by I Have Bearsititis on Feb 15, 2011 10:55 AM CST reply actions
Adam West may object.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
by Ditkavsworld on Feb 15, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
Or do a voiceover.....
you never know!
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Feb 15, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
I couldn't get into this thread at work today
The internet filter kept reading the title as “Whore the odd men out?” Our IT guy is probably going nuts trying to figure that one out.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
tell your IT guy
to go back to his home on Whore Island
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 17, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions

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