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The Case for drafting OL or DT with 1st pick

Most fans will argue that WR is the second greatest positional need for the Bears, but in my opinion the two glaring needs on this team are in the trenches at OL and DT. Wide Receiver is a big need, but in terms of the draft it ranks 4th behind CB, DT, and OL, in my opinion. You might find some impact OL or DL in free agency, but the cornerstones guys that will be with your team for 10 to 12 years are found in the draft.

For example Julius Peppers is a impact free agent acquisition, but Clay Matthews is a cornerstone player you can build around for years. In this year's up-coming draft, there are some defensive and offensive line cornerstone caliber players. Wisconsin LT Gabe Carimi and Penn State C Stefen Wisniewski is the type of offensive lineman you can build around; while on the defensive side of the ball Nick Fairley and DaQuan Bowers are cornerstone players that you can insert pieces around.

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The question here is what way the Bears should go with their first pick. Here's my case for both lineman positions.

The Case for DT

That dominant Warren Sapp and 05-06 Tommie Harris defensive tackle has been missing from this tampa-2 scheme for 3 years now. When making my case for DT you have to look no further than the depth at the position. Guys like Henry Melton and Matt Toeaina are solid rotation guys, but not a long term answer at DT. The Bears need that disruptive defensive tackle to take pressure off of the edge rushers. Julius Peppers and Israel Idonije are very good at getting to the Quarterback, but there have been some games last season where they needed more help (specifically Peppers) from the DT. Just imagine the attention that will be drawn away from a beast pass rusher like Peppers because of the pressure the defense is providing inside at DT. A dominate DE and DT in a tampa-2 defense can really limit what an offense can do. In a division where you will see Aaron Rodgers and Matthew Stafford for many years to come, you need to have a dominate defensive line to contain those guys. Lastly, there's a good chance that the top OT will be taken off the board by the time the draft rolls around #29. You don't want to settle for a prospect like Marvin Austin who resembles your 2008 DT pick Marcus Harrison.

The Case for OL

When the Bears acquired Jay Cutler on April 2, 2009, they got one of the most physically gifted QB's in the league. In two off-seasons, Jerry Angelo hasn't done squat to accommodate his QB with valuable resources specifically offensive line. In Cutler two year's in Chicago, he has been sacked 87 times. This team has been long overdue for an overhaul at offensive line, and if this team wants to catch up with Green Bay they have do a better job building pieces around Jay Cutler starting with the offensive line. The case for selecting OL with the first pick is that even if one of top 4 OT doesn't fall to #29, there are still valuable interior linemen that will be available. Guys like Florida OG Mike Pouncey, Villanova OG Ben Ijalana, and Penn State C Stefen Wisenski will be available. If you want that top OT you can take extreme measures for example using your 1st and TE Greg Olsen to move up.

If you ask me, I would rather start building around your investment, which means building a dominate offensive line so your QB won't turn into the next Marc Bulger. Which ever way they go I won't have a problem with it because the positions are both glaring holes on the team.

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I agree

Although I would put receiver as our #3 need, I still believe DT and OL are the biggest needs. With teams like Atlanta and New Orleans being put in a spot to have to re-sign multiple good offensive linemen, it might be a good free agent class. OC Kalil got tagged, so did OG Mankins, but the Falcons have to pick between OG Dahl and OT Claybo and the Saints have Bushrod and Nicks. The Ravens tagged Ngata so OT Gaither will hit the market.

There are some solid FA options…I hope the CBA gets hammered out so we can plan our draft after we see what we can get on the market.

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by Brendan Hess on Feb 22, 2011 7:19 PM CST reply actions  

i still think 1st round is to early for a DT

Its a need but not that big of a need. Toe is solid, and u think people are selling Melton short. Give him an offseason. To bulk up and another year under Marinelli and he’ll be more than just a good depth guy. He only had 2.5 sacks last year but he was just a step or two short of getting twice as many. Give him another offseason and that will change.

by IndyBearsFan88 on Feb 22, 2011 7:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

*You people.

Sorry I’m typing on my phone keypad, and my fingers are too fat. Idk where the think came from

by IndyBearsFan88 on Feb 22, 2011 7:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Depends what they think they can address in FA

If they plan on signing a DT, then WR should be drafted early and vice-versa.

O-line is going to need both I imagine. As for CB, it really would be nice to have someone bigger who doesn’t fall down every other play but in my opinion is a distant 2nd to getting Cutler a big, dependable receiver.

by TheMan1 on Feb 22, 2011 7:27 PM CST reply actions  

WalterFootball - Doesn't even mention DT

29. Chicago Bears: Mike Pouncey, G, Florida
You know, if the Bears had a good offensive line, Jay Cutler probably wouldn’t have suffered an MCL sprain against the Packers, and we never would have had this huge debate about whether Cutler should have played or not. This should make Chicago’s first-round pick pretty obvious.
The Bears led the NFL in sacks allowed (60) in 2010. Jerry Angelo should be exiled if he doesn’t improve the offensive line.
It doesn’t appear that Angelo will have much money to spend this offseason (Carl Nicks), so he’ll have to address the left guard position in the 2011 NFL Draft.
62. Chicago Bears: Ras-I Dowling, CB, Virginia
Tim Jennings, a free agent in March 2012, played well during the regular season but struggled in the playoffs. The Bears need all the help they can get at cornerback if they want to overtake the Packers and all of their talented wideouts.
93. Chicago Bears: Greg Little, WR, North Carolina
The Bears will be searching for an upgrade at receiver sometime early in the 2011 NFL Draft.
126. Chicago Bears: Jason Pinkston, OT, Pittsburgh
The Bears need as many upgrades on the offensive line as possible. If they lead the NFL in sacks allowed again, Jay Cutler probably won’t make it through another season.
157. Chicago Bears: Jacquizz Rodgers, RB, Oregon State
Chester Taylor could be released soon. The Bears will be looking for a replacement.

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by BearDownIsrael on Feb 22, 2011 7:33 PM CST reply actions  

Now that JA has offically reigned in on the Chester Taylor release story

Its probably about time we all stopped acting like its a foregone conclusion. Although I like the rest of this mock draft. Pouncey would be awesome if he is still on the board at #29.

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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Feb 22, 2011 8:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Do we have the 29 or 30 spot?

I saw on NFL Network that we had the 30 spot in the draft.

by Jonathan Heun Jr on Feb 23, 2011 11:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Everywhere else is showing we are 29 which is what I thought we had.

by Jonathan Heun Jr on Feb 23, 2011 11:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Pouncey at 29

would be ideal. and hopefully we can have Nicks already in the clubhouse b4 the draft. there are our 2 guards for at least the next 5 or 6 years. C. Williams can move back out to tackle (where ever you dont want Webb) then the o-line will look decent.

by l3ig_lvlike_430 on Feb 22, 2011 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I like mock drafts.

I wouldn’t mind seeing that happen. I feel we are going to take an OL in one of the first two rounds. Then either DT, CB, or WR as our other pick in the first two rounds depending who is highest on our draft board. I don’t feel we will find a DT in the 3rd that can start for a while because of our depth at the position, but I see us getting a DT in the later rounds if not the first two rounds for competition.
As for CB and WR we could find a potential starter in the 3rd and 4th rounds, if we don’t pick higher at the position. I feel, get the best player on the boards based on the needs of the team.
1st CB, WR, DT, OL
2nd CB, WR, DT, OL
3rd CB, WR, OL, RB
4th CB, WR, DT, OL, RB
5+ If two OL haven’t been drafted, then another OL and ??
Hoping we bring in a RB for competition and release Chester Taylor, also WR may not be high on our draft board because of the acquisition of Fantuz. Either way I don’t see us keeping Aromashodu for another year unless by some miracle he can beat out Fantuz, a draft pick, or beat out Rasheed Davis at ST’s.

by Captain Kangaroo on Feb 23, 2011 5:13 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm frustrated with our history of drafting DT (defensive line in general)

that don’t pan out. Jerry Angelo’s obsessed with the D line and we still don’t get better. If he drafts a DT high he’d better be ROTY or Angelo can suck my big toe.

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by Just Dave on Feb 22, 2011 7:48 PM CST reply actions  

I'm all about getting younger and better on the oline...

but if there is no one there that warrants a 1st round pick than they should look at other options. The same goes with DT and that’s what I’m afraid of that JA will reach for a DT in the 1st. If a stud receiver like Baldwin or a good corner like Aaron Williams is there than they should go after him. But I say they start at getting an actual healthy LT so if Sherrod or Carimi is still around then bam we got a legit LT for a decade and than focus on other parts later. Sign Nicks in FA and get another OG later in the draft like Kirkpatrick or Moffit to groom behind Olin and play guard. Garza has a couple solid seasons left so his replacement can already be on the team to be coached up or draft his successor next year. But the LT, LG and C positions are the key pieces to fill this season.

by frenchbears113 on Feb 22, 2011 7:57 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah I would address WR free agency.

A guy like Sidney Rice should be a top priority for the Bears.

by Dominique Blanton on Feb 22, 2011 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

CB

may be a bigger need than WR, but I have more faith in Angelo finding a quality corner in the mid to late rounds than a receiver. I think Angelo has shown some ability to find corners than can play reasonably well in our system (safeties, not so much), so I’d just assume let him find something in the middle rounds.

I think OL and DL need to be priorities in the draft.

I think since WR tend to take a few years to develop into productive players, Angelo should try to find an impact receiver in free agency. Not necessarily because it’s the biggest need, but because he has the least chance of filling out needs through the draft.

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by tomas21 on Feb 22, 2011 7:58 PM CST reply actions  

I think that if Joshua Moore has strengthened up than he should be given a shot....

last year he probably could have gone earlier in the draft had he not been so weak so if he actually spent this past season strength training than why not give the guy a shot.

by frenchbears113 on Feb 22, 2011 7:59 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

He does have coverage skills Ill give you that

As well as decent size, so if he is indeed stronger than I suppose that wouldn’t hurt

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Feb 22, 2011 8:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I can see him being the reason Angelo passes on CB this year, but he should still get one.

It’s a deep class full of defensive backs so you can wait all the way to the 3rd round to pick one up.

by Dominique Blanton on Feb 22, 2011 8:46 PM CST up reply actions  

REC'D

Ive always liked Joshua Moore. Hell I liked DJ Moore when he got to play.

by l3ig_lvlike_430 on Feb 22, 2011 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm very high on Joshua Moore also.

Has plenty of experience playing zone coverage, and is also decent in man coverage. I still will like to see them draft another corner to develop behind Tillman.

by Dominique Blanton on Feb 22, 2011 11:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I definitely agree but it wouldn't hurt to see what the kid has....

like you said he’s pretty good in zone and man coverages and he’s got decent size as well at 5’11. But if a guy like Dowling or hell Aaron Williams can be had then I’m all for it. If Moore pans out and we get another good CB we’ll be set in that department.

by frenchbears113 on Feb 23, 2011 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't know about Aaron Williams , kid is suspect .

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by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 23, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

IMO the needs in order

1. Off. Line – Why? Cutler has scored 52 total tds for the bears in his first two seasons as a bear qb, how much higher would that number be if he had an AVERAGE offensive line, the bears line has been god awful. If we had any other qb he would have suffered serious injury.
I believe the first pick should be an interior line man. I think Williams gets one last shot at Left Tackle and i think Webb deserves to compete to for a job. A guard would start right away.

2. CB The way jennings got attacked made one thing obvious, love him or hate him teams do respect Peanut Tillman and will attack the other side until someone steps up. I would draft a CB in the first round if the Best CB would help more than the best OG. good guards can be had in round 2 and 3.

3. DT- i think we have some good guys in there but we need a young hungry lineman. I like meltons ability and i love Toenias motor and Adams is as consistent as you get. We lack that 3 technique that gets upfield and disrupts the pocket to help izzy and pepp. We use to have him……Tommie Harris man do i miss you.

4. WR.
I may differ from some people. I believe we have talent and legit threats at wideout but no variety. Knox and Hester can get behind any corner in the league but struggle badly against physical corners like Williams and Woodson. If Bennett was 6’4 id be happier than a fat kid eating cake. Earl is tough reciever who runs good routes and has excellent hands but like knox and hester is a smaller reciever. We need a big body guy that can fight off corners and go up and get the ball.
I dont want James Jones he is way too inconsistent he is a 6’1 Rashied Davis.
I want Sims Walker or Sidney Rice.

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by Bear Lovin 21 on Feb 22, 2011 10:19 PM CST reply actions  

I think it'll be easier to get a quality CB in free agency than a quality DT

With 3 ProBowl CBs becoming UFAs, I see a lot more talent in that position than I currently do in the DT position. As far as draft priorities, I’d put CB below DT for that reason.

And finally somebody who agrees with me that WR isn’t a Need, but a Want. I’d like Sid, and I’d be content with MSW. Just please don’t suggest Edwards…

by Doshi on Feb 23, 2011 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Up to #4

Agreed most emphatically up to #4.
We have to get a Vet posession reciever (Sidney Rice) in FA and not a WR to groom 2-3 years down the road.
Lovie CONSISTENTLY Red Shirts every reciever for his First Year.
AT #4 we desperately need that C/G That Olin can mentor and pass on his FBI to in his waining years.

pbanachi

by pbanachi on Feb 23, 2011 12:50 AM CST reply actions  

Rookies do play

Bennett was mostly the exception, because they had him learn all WR positions because they weren’t sure where to put him. Iglesias was worthless in the first place, he got chewed out by Cutler by not catching with both hands.

Rookies playing their first year in the system include the injury prone Mark Bradley(2nd), Johnny Knox(5th), and Bernard Berrian(3rd).

Of course I would like for them to bring in a FA WR. We just haven’t had a high pick at WR since draft bust David Terrel, and Mark Bradley.

by Captain Kangaroo on Feb 23, 2011 5:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh man, you had to bring up David Terrell

I thought that guy would be the second coming of Michael Irvin – a slight miscalculation on my part. He’s the main reason the Bears have been wary of drafting WRs in early rounds

by NorthSideBearsFan on Feb 23, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Hello!?!

We are talking of “Lovie’s” recent needs to red shirt recievers.
No need to go back to Curtis Conway :)

pbanachi

by pbanachi on Feb 23, 2011 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice post

I believe if you build your team from the trenches out you’ll have a successful team. The Bears should get two starting caliber offensive linemen from this draft.

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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 23, 2011 8:40 AM CST reply actions  

draft needs

It’s definitely OL, need to keep #6 healthy.

by walterfan34 on Feb 23, 2011 2:43 PM CST reply actions  

Editor!

Nice post as usual but the adjective is “dominant” or “dominating” rather than the verb “dominate” …of course, if this is an American variant that I’m unaware of then carry on.

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by Spongie on Feb 23, 2011 5:14 PM CST reply actions  

OH!

And mandatory to draft OL 2 of the first 4 spots. Anything less is criminal!

pbanachi

by pbanachi on Feb 23, 2011 6:00 PM CST reply actions  

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