Are the Bears planning on making a splash this year?
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 4, 2011 7:00 PM CST
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PrintRecently the Bears have made several big moves that resulted in freeing up a very large amount of money in cap space. Those moves:
1) Releasing Tommie Harris, Hunter Hillenmeyer, and Kevin Shaffer
2) Resructurring Julius Pepper's contract (still very surprized)
That money can now be used in so many ways its mindboggeling
First and foremost unfortunately two of the options I propposed have already been signed- DT Shaun Rogers and FS O.J. Atogwe- yet perhaps the grand prizes OG Carl Nicks and CB Nnamdi Asomugha, perhaps even Sidney Rice are the big targets, hence the major and somewhat surprizing decisions made by management. Now some of it may be results from preperations of a long term lock-out, yet at least I am optomistic this cap space is being amased for at least one major move this year.
So, what do you think Bears fans, who do you want signed now that there is a surplus of money now avaliable?
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Nicks and/or Rice would be great, but
Maybe pick up a group of solid players who won’t be asking for a huge contract?
Offensive line – Tyson Clabon, Harvey Dahl
Defensive tackle – Barry Cofield. He’s worth a second round pick.
Defensive back/Safety – Eric Weddle, maybe Carlos Rogers
Receiver – Mike Sims-Walker, James Jones
In short, in life, as in a foot-ball game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard; don't foul and don't shirk, but hit the line hard!" Theodore Roosevelt
No thanks to Rogers
i watch this guy play all the time.
NO HANDS at all, if he catches half the picks he drops every year, he would be considered elite.
I agree totally with Sims Walker
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Mar 4, 2011 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
The drops suck, but
doesn’t a dropped interception mean a pass deflected? Isn’t it still a positive play for the defense?
In short, in life, as in a foot-ball game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard; don't foul and don't shirk, but hit the line hard!" Theodore Roosevelt
Imagine this
Late game in the season, Bears vs Packers
Bears up by four with a minute to go
Rodgers misreads a pass throws it right to Carlos Rogers who drops it
Next Play throws to jennings over C. Rogers.
Hes better then jennings to me but id take some others before i take him
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Mar 5, 2011 8:23 AM CST up reply actions
Nnamdi Asomugha is a must
Carlos Rogers is okay, but as you said there are several players we should consider before Rogers
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 6, 2011 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
Respectfully. Asomugha is a wish not a must
He is a wonderful player, but will be prohibitively expensive I expect,
The musts are OL, DT and/or WR
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~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 6, 2011 6:01 PM CST up reply actions
Good point
Still a good corner is indeed a must as again Tillman cant do it alone. O-Line is of the most importance.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 6, 2011 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
I would put a CB 4th on the priority list
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 7, 2011 7:38 AM CST up reply actions
CB is not a must
It is definitely a wish as CB just isn’t that important in the defensive system we run.
Our pass defense was fine last season. They gave up the second fewest passing TDs in the league (14), and held opposing QBs to the third-worst rating (74.4). They gave up yards, yes, but defenses are supposed to give up yards in the Cover Two.
People seem to judge our CBs on Tim Jennings’ first quarter performance in the NFC Championship game. Yes, he got burned a few times in that game, but at the same time, the Packers only scored 14 points which means the defense adjusted and stopped that. The Packers didn’t score any points in the second half so it’s not like they won because of Jennings or because we’re so weak at CB. He’s not the scapegoat here.
CB is not a need. OL, DT, and probably S if Manning leaves. Those are needs. Everything else is a want.
In short, in life, as in a foot-ball game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard; don't foul and don't shirk, but hit the line hard!" Theodore Roosevelt
by LRT on Mar 7, 2011 8:53 AM CST up reply actions
CB not important?
Rodgers and Jennings messed T.Jennings UP in the NFCC
Had we had a decent corner there it woulda been a different ball game
I'll roll up
????
How many points did the Pack offense score again? I mean, really? If the Bears can hold the Super Bowl champs to 41 offensive points in three meetings, I don’t think our defense, or our corners are as bad as you suggest. Put some perspective on it. The Packers scored and average of 13.7 offensive points a game in three meeting with Chicago with one of the most explosive passes in the league. How bad can our corners really be?
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 7, 2011 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
Watch the tape though. T. Jennings gets tore up the whole game.
Anyway he’s just a stop-gap anyway. We need at least one new corner and a potential young corner to coach up to replace Tillman. I see DB as the 4th need.
1. OL
2. WR
3. 3tech
4. CB
I'll roll up
He got tore up......
in one game. And even getting “tore up”. The Packers could opnly score 14 points. I hope the Bears get tore up like that in every game they play.
I just have a problem with the way that the defensive backs are being portrayed. They allowed the second fewest TDs in the league through the air. Can you tell me which stat matters more than that one?
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 7, 2011 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
The team that allowed THE fewest passing TDs?
;)
by Steven Schweickert on Mar 7, 2011 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
LOL....
come on! You’re the accountant! You should know the difference between “stat” and “rank”! Get with the program, SJS!
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 8, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
I know the diff...
And “allowed the second fewest TDs” and “allowed the fewest TDs” are both stats measuring the same thing. :)
(/pain in the arse)
by Steven Schweickert on Mar 8, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
You, sir, are a bad man.........
I’m taking my ball and going home.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 8, 2011 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
To the corner with you!
;)
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 8, 2011 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
Tim Jennings was the weak-link, and Rodgers went after him the whole game. We also need to add a little more depth because Tillman’s getting up there, and he’s had a lot of injuries. Jennings isn’t bad overall, but a big, physical corner would be nice.
No
If our starting QB hadn’t choked all over the field until he got injured, who missed two wide open almost guaranteed TDs to Devin Hester, it woulda been a different ball game.
If we had a decent backup QB, it woulda been a different ball game.
If we had an offensive coordinator who plays to the teams strengths all the time, it woulda been a different ball game.
If we had receivers who will go up and fight for the ball (like Olsen did when he went up and knocked down what would have been an INT), it would have been a different ball game.
You know who has decent corners? The Steelers. The Falcons. The Eagles. The Giants. The Jets. You know what those teams all have in common? The Packers beat them all.
Tim Jennings had very little to do with our loss. He’s not the scapegoat here.
In short, in life, as in a foot-ball game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard; don't foul and don't shirk, but hit the line hard!" Theodore Roosevelt
by LRT on Mar 8, 2011 8:50 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Top to bottom it was everyone's fault so that would include Tim Jennings
by frenchbears113 on Mar 8, 2011 9:00 AM CST up reply actions
And you'd have a point
if I said “it was everyone but Tim Jennings’s fault.”
All I’m saying is, the guy was made into a goat, hard.
Much more criticism should have been levied against Cutler and his performance, but the injury and national media (and other players) being complete d-bags about that injury caused us to rush to his defense and overlook how godawful he played up to that point.
In short, in life, as in a foot-ball game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard; don't foul and don't shirk, but hit the line hard!" Theodore Roosevelt
by LRT on Mar 8, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
yeah but the defense was just as bad in the first half....
we will never know if Jay would’ve picked up his play so to say that he deserves more criticism is ridiculous
by frenchbears113 on Mar 8, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
I still believe we would have won if Jay was not injured
Anyways back on topic all of our secondary seems set except the Left Corner. If either we can sign/draft a new starter or if someone emerges in camp then with a beastly 3 tech the defense would be set.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 8, 2011 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
yes moving on... I say Joshua Moore's time has come!!!!!
by frenchbears113 on Mar 8, 2011 7:32 PM CST up reply actions
If he has worked his butt off in the weight room and continues to do so then why not
He does have decent size for a corner (6’ ?) and has amazing coverage skills, and if he indeed has bulked up then yea give the kid a shot
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 8, 2011 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
because he would have magically played better
in the second half than he had all year against the Pack?
DEJESUS!!!
He played alright the first time he faced the Pack at home on MNF
If our WRs weren’t knocked around the place like pin-balls in a pin-ball machine and our O-Line…wasnt our O-Line then Jay Cutler would have had a much better game. This also was the first time he has ever got that far into a season, and I say considering how well he played against the Seahawks he just needed this game to prepare him for the big show. And now we move on
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 10, 2011 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
Tomas has been known to be a vocal Jay Cutler critic so his response is nothing new
by frenchbears113 on Mar 10, 2011 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
Thank you for that
If our O-Line can get solidified then Jay Cutler with the now 2 years spent with the same WR corps will have far more comfort and less pressure to complete the pass.
Anyways a Miami fan and I had a very interesting conversation where he stated that there is some bad feelings between Brandon Marshall and the organization. I doubt anything is going to happen but…what if?
And since now we are in the descussion, out of the three who would (in a perfect world/situation) be the best WR for our system; Brandon Marshall, Mike Sims-Walker, Larry Fitzgerald (who is a situation of his own) or Sidney Rice?
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 10, 2011 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
I would take Fitzgerald out of the equation for two reasons: one, we’re never going to have enough to trade for him without severely handicapping ourselves in the draft; second, you could make a case that he would be the best WR for pretty much any system.
Acreman20: 127 hours is pretty decent.
awfullyquiet: How long is that movie?
Acreman20: 93 minutes.
He would cost another King's ransom
Okay so subtract Fitzgerald from the equation (hey now anything can happen once the new CBA is done) out of the remaining bunch- Marshall, Rice, MSW- who would you take?
Im going with Marshall as the chemistry between him and Cutler was one of the top combinations in the NFL a few years ago.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 11, 2011 5:58 AM CST up reply actions
Responding to your post earlier no problem....
With Jay there have been ups and downs and there have been many more highs but the lows have been painful to watch so here’s hoping the next step is taken next season…
As far as receivers go I would say Fitz would be the ideal guy because of his overall beastliness but taking him out of the equation I would say that Marshall would be the best option because out of all the receivers you listed not named Fitz, he’s the best route-runner and in this offense that is most important.
by frenchbears113 on Mar 11, 2011 8:53 AM CST up reply actions
He also has amazing size
6’4 220 pounds he is a monster of a WR
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 11, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
The defense does that a lot
Plays a mediocre to outright horrible first half and then tightens up and shuts down teams in the second half.
As for Jay, it doesn’t matter if he would have picked up his play. We can only go by what we saw, and what we saw was horrible QB play from our franchise QB in the most important game of the year.
I know we’re all still a little sensitive to the bashing he took after that game, but the fact remains that he played terribly while he was in there. You can’t argue with that.
In short, in life, as in a foot-ball game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard; don't foul and don't shirk, but hit the line hard!" Theodore Roosevelt
by LRT on Mar 9, 2011 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
No one is arguing that but again the Bears tightened up after they had already failed to stop the Packers offense for 2 scores....
You’re excusing their play but saying that they always do that. They played horribly in the 1st half too just like Jay Cutler.
by frenchbears113 on Mar 9, 2011 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
In the end we all have our opinions as to what happened...
and what could’ve or should’ve been done. In the end we all just want a winner so hopefully this offseason gets our beloved Bears that much closer to being consistent challengers. I think we can all agree on that my good man.
by frenchbears113 on Mar 9, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
Hmmm
are we playing the if game here? We could go back several years with this game and have some fun.
If we would have drafted this person instead of that person…..
Ready go
by l3ig_lvlike_430 on Mar 8, 2011 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
Steelers corners aren't great
in fact it is the weakness of their defense.
On to bigger and better things next year!
yeah but Troy's hair should make up for their corners...
I mean have you seen it, it’s glorious.
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by Ditkavsworld on Mar 9, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
But of coarse my friend
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 7, 2011 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
To me
OL- any player would suffice to me
-Carl Nick
- Davin Joseph
Corner- Brent Grimes
Reciever Sims Walker puts up good numbers with an ok Qb . he could be real good with cutty
Sidney Rice- he brings another element to the offense.
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
they put a tender on grimes
i wouldnt mind a WR or a OG- offense needs to be shored up badly. if we can get a bit younger on D. I can forsee JA grabbing a DE/DT in this draft but possibly a OL/OT too.
He definately is planning on something big for the O-line
Brent Grimes was okay but not that good, he plays at his best in a 3 zone scheme as such in Atlanta, not so much in a cover 2 scheme. If there is any DBs being signed I want Asomugha, as we need that one guy in the secondary to shut down the opposing teams best option in the passing game. Tillman was solid as always but he cant go at it alone anymore, we must have a presance on the other side of the field.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 5, 2011 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
Tillman didn't do it alone.
As you said, he can’t. It’s impossible. If it were possible, a passing TD would never be scored against the Jets, Raiders or Broncos.
But let’s breathe for a second. Jennings was pretty good. Not great, no. But good. and he was riding the #1’s usually. For all the heaping praise your dropping on Tillman, he was the #2 corner. He was generally facing inferior talent to what Jennings was dealing with.
And DJ Moore put up very good numbers. In fact, they were the best since Ricky Manning Jr was our nickel.
In the end, it comes down to this for me. The Bears allowed .875 passing TDs per game. That, my friend is pretty good passing defense. Don’t get me wrong, I wonm’t complain about upgrades. But Asomugha comes with a price tag that prohibits upgrades to other needs. I’m sorry, but we had one of the best defenses in the league without him. And I would rather see that money spent on the offense or on a defensive tackle that reminds me of Tommie Harris circa 2005/2006.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 7, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I have to agree...
If a possible starting CB comes along at a decent spot in the draft or at a reasonable price, I’m fine with it, but CB is not something we need to break the bank for.
by Steven Schweickert on Mar 7, 2011 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
Jennings was alright I'll give you that
But again despite only 14 points the NFCCG is a constant reminder that he still is the guy to get picked on by stellar QBS, and we definately need a presance to ensure that Tillman is not alone. Our passing defense was sublime yet an upgrade is most certainly appeasing.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 7, 2011 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
I honestly think C. Harris was more to blame..
For those first few big plays than Jennings was. Harris was dealing with his hip injury I believe and I feel that slowed his physical and mental reaction times down in getting to the ball and disrupting the play.
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
^ This
There was simply too great a gap between the corner & safety. Rodgers arm was plenty strong enough to get in into that window, and Jennings plenty fast enough to get to that space quickly before C. Harris slowly got there.
There were however times where even if Harris was fully healthy he would not have been able to cover up some of Jennings mistakes
Tillman is getting long in the tooth, and our safeties seem to be set, we just need to fid that guy to complement Tillman, a real coverage guy.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 8, 2011 6:09 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind that actually
An incentive-laden small deal for him..
IIRC, he was a beast as a 4-3 defensive end in college, and then he couldn’t make the transition to 3-4 rush linebacker (or 3-4 defensive end, which just seems odd to me..)
I’d like to see him brought in for training camp, just in case he thrives in his old position.
why not?
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Mar 5, 2011 8:24 AM CST up reply actions
isnt that what we all said about Cedric Benson?
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Mar 7, 2011 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
and colombo?
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Mar 7, 2011 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
wow you got me....
here I was about to say, are you crazy? That guy sucks and all that. Then I counted to 10 and thought it through and I will say I am ok with a look see with him at a small contract with big incentives or just the 1yr deal. My best friend is a Jets fan and have watched most of their games in the last 10yrs and vernon’s name doesn’t come up much, but in his natural dline position with good talent around him, who knows.
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by pappabearhalas on Mar 9, 2011 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
Yea perhaps a change of scenery would be benificial for his career
Yet Im not very certain he will be that good, we will see but I doubt Jerry will set this guy as target #1. I still think he is waiting to see the CBA done which as it stands would ban tags, allowing for him to go after Mankins. Or, perhaps he is preparring to sign Carl Nicks
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 9, 2011 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
Oh I agree,
this guy is nobody’s #1 target, well maybe a UFL team. LOL But with a chance to be better than what our current depth is, past Izzy and that other guy of course. He is worth the look, I guess.
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt". -Mark Twain
by pappabearhalas on Mar 9, 2011 6:54 PM CST up reply actions
Wooton is pretty good now
Maybe we should slid Wooton over at RE to be groomed under Peppers and have Gholston compete with Izzy or with Wooton or both so our best DEs are on the field constantly. He was a monster in a 4-3 back in college so we will see if Hot Rod can spark a new fire in him.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 9, 2011 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
I was actually thinking about that last night
Like Mathias said, the guy was dominate in a 4-3 defense when he was in college. Its obvious that he couldnt make the switch to the 3-4, however there are alot of good players already in the league that cant do that. I say sign him to a 1 year deal worth 3 mil. with a ton of incentives and only about 800-900k guarenteed. Its a very low risk/ high reward oppurtunity.
by IndyBearsFan88 on Mar 5, 2011 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
If Jerry is going after a DE then Im willing to say its Ray Edwards
He has been an extreamly consistant pass rusher, as he just has the x-factor when chasing down QBs.
Now with that said I dont want us to sign a DE as Wooton and Izzy are fine as is, and Julius Peppers is…Julius Peppers- no one to my mind is a better DE in this league than he is. I would like at least one good O-Lineman preferably a guard signed then either sign a good DT or draft one in the first round.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 5, 2011 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
I hope not.
DE is not a need. I’m more than satisfied with Izzy, Pep and the gang. Another project, even one who I think stands a good chance of being a decent but not great end in a 4-3 system, just isn’t a need.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 7, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
3 tech is most definately a bigger need than DE
The cast you stated are indeed far better than the majority of the leagues DEs, and there is a gapping hole at DT that must be filled.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 7, 2011 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
much much bigger
I am not sure how one can say DE is even a “need”
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by lookingdeadred on Mar 8, 2011 7:35 AM CST up reply actions
Its not, just a desire
You can never have enough good pass rushers on your defense though
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 8, 2011 6:03 PM CST up reply actions
While I agree that one can never have enough pass rushers
the team has too many glaring holes elsewhere to afford the luxury of going after a DE
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~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 9, 2011 8:00 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed.
From another angle, the Bears, over the last couple seasons, have gone stretches during the year without being able to generate a pass rush, causing us to have to use DBs and LBs to help apply pressure.
There are a couple of very intriguing pass-rushing LBs in this years Draft class that could be had around the 3rd round. Just a thought.
We should not waste a pick on a LB that will only be on the field as a blitzer
The Tampa 2 relies entirely on the pressure the D-Line puts on the QB, while everyone else includin LBs drop back into pass coverage. I agree that DE is not a need and I would be just as happy with our current crew of Peppers, Izzy, and Wooton. We have amazed a large amount of money for something big, and Im starting to wonder if Jerry is waiting on a new deal to see if tags are indeed banned in the new CBA.
If that happens then Mankins and Rice as well as several other big named players will be on the market. Also there is the possibility of say Carl Nicks who might want big money and now we have said big money avaliable.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 9, 2011 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like a good idea, just give him a look.
by transylvanian bear on Mar 5, 2011 8:37 AM CST reply actions
I would like to see Wooten on the other side of Pep, more often . Hopefully he develops faster, and we can have two elite ends. That might alleviate the need for an elite tackle, Adams seems good enough for now with Toey.
by transylvanian bear on Mar 5, 2011 8:42 AM CST reply actions
No, we still need a beast at 3 tech
That is the position that drives this defense as no pressure up the middle means QBs can step forward and throw. Having a monsterous player there is essential.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 6, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
I look at it this way.we need ol help and wrs
We need guys that can start not a work in progress.Sign carl nicks and some other ol sign wr sims…That will put us in good shape then we can draft whatever else we need in the draft.Remember if the offense is better this year the D dont need to be out there as much.They just made about an extra 15 million avalable,they should be able to get 2 or 3 guys with that money easyyyyy.
all of the above
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Mar 5, 2011 2:00 PM CST reply actions
like your optimism
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by lookingdeadred on Mar 5, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
Shoot with all the money in cap space signing two if not all three of them is a possibility
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 5, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
No chance
we go after Nmamdi. Paying top-dollar for a lock-down corner isn’t worth it in our system. We’d be better off paying for a big-time DT or upgrading at LE. Angelo has shown the ability to find serviceable to good corners through the draft—it’s really one of the only things he does well in the draft, so I don’t see him spending big dollars on a corner.
I think Rice, assuming his hip isn’t a chronic, degenerative condition, as i rumored, along with Nicks would be a fantastic off-season.
DEJESUS!!!
I believe we dont need to upgrade at LE as Izzy and Wooton have both played well
I wouldnt mind us signing Ray Edwards now but still the money should be used on a blue chip O-Lineman like Nicks and paying top dollar for a shut down corner is not only worth it, it is absolutely necessary. Tillman needs as much help as possible, and as of right now there is not one CB on our roster that really can provide that help. Nnamdi has stated he would like to play for a winning team and rumors circulated him being interested in signing with the Pack, who have already turned him down.
Rice is a great option but would cost a first rounder. Mike Sims-Walker now would be a great value signing as he has all the attributes of Devin Aromashodu and plays far more consistantly than any of our other recievers. Carl Nicks is and should be our top priority as Even Angelo seams fixated on improving at guard, and has gone out and signed big named O-Lineman before (2006- John Tait and Ruben Brown) and Tice and Martz want Webb to continue developing and Sharrod might be the Bears #1 target in the draft if not Liuget. Anyways Tice and Martz both not only complemented the tackles but said absolutely nothing about the guards, so there is something going on behind the scenes. All of this money is being accumilated for at least one massive signing if not two, so time will tell.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 6, 2011 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
why would rice cost a first rounder
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Mar 6, 2011 11:37 PM CST up reply actions
Franchise Tag
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 7, 2011 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
Nope, Vikings did place a first round tender on Sidney Rice
Check out Sportingnews.com
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 7, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
Well he would be worth a first rounder if we sign a big player onto the O-Line as well
O-Line and 3 tech are without a doubt our top two needs this offseason. Rice would definately bring that missing demension to our WRs, yet honestly with our current corps and a prospect like Fantuz if we cant get a reciever such as Rice or Mike Sims Walker (who would cost WAY less) then our corps is okay enough to win games.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 7, 2011 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
As much as I want a big receiver I would so be happy with a good line...
with a line that can protect the QB, allowing him time to find an open receiver as well as give them ample time to get open since none of them like fighting for a ball, and open holes for the run game I don’t see why this offense shouldn’t be a lot better next season. All QB’s need time to locate and throw a football and Jay is no different. I believe that with some training Fantuz can be a solid receiver. He’s got the build and the athleticism to be a factor. He just needs to study NFL defenses and digest the playbook.
by frenchbears113 on Mar 7, 2011 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
I have all the confidence in the world with Fantuz
The cure to our ills on offense is from inside out, we must restructure the O-Line above all
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 7, 2011 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
I have all the confidence in the world with Fantuz
Ummm….. Why?
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
He has good size, hands, route running and decent speed
Although the CFL is a world away from American ball, there are still enough similarities for the transition to be acheivable
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 8, 2011 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
They did
but it’s likely meaningless. In the new CBA all players with 4 years of service are very likely to be free agents. Most teams still tagged those guys anyways, but it isn’t likely to matter once the CBA is finalized.
There is a 99% chance that Sidney Rice requires no draft pick compensation to sign, based on all we know.
DEJESUS!!!
So what you're saying is whenever the new deal is done franchise tags will no longer be allowed?
If so then not only is Rice avaliable, so is Mankins!
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 7, 2011 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
Depends on how franchise tags are dealt with, if they exist, in the CBA.
Franchise tag/transition tag =/= RFA.
by Steven Schweickert on Mar 7, 2011 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
I would love to see an end to tags
Its better business
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 8, 2011 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
no
Rice was not given the franchise tag. he was given a RFA tender. the RFA tender will likely be meaningless for players like Riec in the new CBA.
DEJESUS!!!
I certainly hope the tender will be meaningless in the new CBA
He does have (when healthy) all the traits we are aiming to add to our WR corps
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 10, 2011 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
LE?
What did you not like about Idonije’s play last season?
OL, DT, WR and CB are all bigger needs than another DE.
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~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 7, 2011 7:41 AM CST up reply actions
He did a good job
but he didn’t generate a lot of pass rush. I completely agree that DT is a bigger need, but we need to generate more pass rush anywhere we can. If there is a chance to upgrade at LE I’d take it, as Izzy isn’t a long-term answer and Wootten is a question mark at this point.
DEJESUS!!!
Enter Ray Edwards
Wooton can be the answer, yet Ray Edwards is a complete LE coming from a 4-3 system in Minnesota with Jarred Allen on the other end.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 7, 2011 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
Honestly i would hate to see Edwards
Becaus ei am such a huge Wootten guy that i would hate to see anything inhibit his developement
I'll roll up
Getting an upgrade over Idonije would be nice, but not a need
whereas OL, DT and WR are clear needs
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~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Mar 8, 2011 7:37 AM CST up reply actions
Also, Idonije is a prime DMS candidate for our coaches.
He can be moved back inside as a situational DT pass rusher, which he excelled at in ‘09. DT rotation becomes Adams, Toeaina, Melton, & Izzy. Not ideal, but if Ray Edwards & Peppers are the DE’s, then that DT rotation is plenty good imo.
If Melton can gain and maintain more weight (I believe he can be 300 at least)
He can be a force. Toeaina is also a decent 3 tech prospect, we just need to find THAT force either by draft or by competition.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 8, 2011 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
280 for Melton would be plenty
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Mar 9, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
I think he is already at that weight
Not sure, but anyways in my book the more weight and muscle he can build the better. That would help him into being a more complete DT
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 9, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
he's listed at 260
adding 40 pounds in one offseason is tough to do, unless you go all Fatty McLardbutt and eat everything
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Mar 10, 2011 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
he did it!
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Mar 10, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
And in this corner at a whopping 300 pounds
The master of disaster…Jamarcus Russel!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 10, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions
Don’t forget the Purple Drank…
Acreman20: 127 hours is pretty decent.
awfullyquiet: How long is that movie?
Acreman20: 93 minutes.
Now here is a "good" question
Who was the bigger bust; JaMarcus Russel or Ryan Leaf (that Chargers QB)?
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 19, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
He certainly looked a little heavier than 260
Anyways Izzy managed to get from 260 all the way to somewhere around 310 pounds so I see this as plausible. And…well there is the draft where promising 3 techs are supposedly plentiful this year.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 10, 2011 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
Izzy is the exception
He has a very good handle on his body, the Bears have asked him to go from DE to DT to DE a few times
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Mar 11, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
If Melton is serious about being an impact player at DT then he needs to work out with Izzy every chance he gets
I feel if Melton can add that much weight and bulk to him then he would be a real threat to QBs
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 11, 2011 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
as well as to buffets!
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Mar 11, 2011 6:53 PM CST up reply actions
That too!
Golden Corral would go and kick him out!
Anyways in a more serious note if he can gain a good amount of healthy weight and keep it on that would only help his chances of becoming the 3 tech our defense has missed in a long time.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 11, 2011 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
Get an O lineman or two
Looking at the Bears there is only one weakness it is the O-line. Wide Receivers are only mid range in the NFL however I bet that Cutler could make them look a heck of a lot better if he had time back there.
There is always the voices saying that the Bears D is getting old however….still one of the best in the league and you can easy draft that hole fixed in the next couple of years.
by greenbay packers backer on Mar 18, 2011 10:58 AM CDT reply actions
Thats what I was thinking
The O-Line must be fixed if we are to have a chance of winning the Super Bowl. I seem to remember that is what plagued ( and still does ) the Packers offense was the O-Line, so yall went out and made a few moves here and there if Im correct, and suddenly here yall are with the Lambardi trophy in hand.
As for defense depth is there, we just need to find a monster 3 tech to fill the hole that Tommie Harris used to fill for the last few years. Without a solid 3 tech the defense will have some issues.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Mar 18, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
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