The Chicago Bears Should Pursue Randy Moss

by Just Dave on Apr 13, 2011 1:00 PM CDT in From The Desk Of...

Ok. I stirred up some lambasting when I suggested the Bears should consider taking a wide receiver in the first round. Never mind that I made it clear if top O-line talent was available then that was the direction we should go, but I’m here to pick at that scab again. Hear me out. I’m not saying we take a receiver in the first, but I will make a plea to take the position very seriously. The Bears need a solid wide receiver. Either in the draft or in free agency. Wide receiver should be very high on the Bears priority list. Let’s take a look at why...

I’m going to preface this with one assumed supposition. In other words if you are to follow this argument in any direction you need to believe this; Jay Cutler is a franchise quarterback. If you don’t believe that premise (believe me, I’m among the doubters) than the rest of my argument will fall on deaf ears. However, if you find yourself salivating every time you think about Jay leading the Beloved forward than this is the article for you.

Now a bit of banter.... Does a QB make the receivers or do the receivers make the QB? That is the question. Once this team made the gianormous commitment to Jay in the hugilicious trade they made for him, they showed a clear commitment to the idea that the QB made the receivers. Want to argue that? I’ll listen, but consider Kyle Orton. He was a very serviceable QB. He made few mistakes and he kept his team in games. If the Bears believed that great receivers made great QB’s than the best solution would have been to make a hard push for Larry Fitzgerald or draft a bevy of wide receivers in the drafts that preceded the Cutler trade. Make Orton great by surrounding him with greatness. But no. The Bears pulled the trigger on the Cutler deal. The Bears are (in Texas hold ‘em terms) "all in" on the idea that the QB makes the receivers.

Our receivers are doing pretty well. But if the Bears are correct than our receivers are somewhat sub par and Cutler’s making them look above average. I mean, if Knox and Hester were good on their own, than Jay would make them great. Last I checked they both had very decent seasons. Decent. So, this means that without Jay they’d be less than decent. Following me so far?

So if all of the above is true, than how amazingly freaking good would the Bears offense become if we simply got our hands on an above average wide receiver? Seriously (sorta)? I mean think about it. If Jay is really a great quarterback, and great quarterbacks can make the average appear to be above average, then if we get Jay an above average wide receiver to begin with....? He could make a potential second or third rounder into the next Andre Johnson.

Now, what if we get him a proven commodity? Someone good. I mean really good. Someone who’s already shown that he can be a great wide receiver? Someone with real football credentials? Someone whose gotten it done for years on the highest levels? Super Bowl anyone? The Bears need to pursue Randy Moss or Chad (Johnson?) Ochocinco in free agency. They need to begin looking into it now. It could be the step that pushes this team over the top. It could make us contenders for years.

If you are still reading this then I commend you. Hell, I salute you. I'd hug you but the internet has physical limitations. I don’t want Randy Moss anymore than I want genital warts but I thought it would be fun to make the argument, write the article, then see who actually reads it. Or who just reads the headline and reacts. Or anything in between. Thanks for actually reading my articles either way! See you next Wednesday for a look at why the Bears should draft Cam Newton. Or some other complete nonsense....

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The Bears should draft Newton and turn him into a punter.....

All joking aside I believe that both receivers and QB’s make each other look good. It’s a symbiotic relationship because good QB’s find a way to get the ball into their good receivers hands and said receiver finds a way to catch that ball. I think Jay has made Knox and Hester look better than they are. I think Knox has the potential to be really good but until he learns to get physical he’ll always be a good #2 and nothing more. As far as Randy Moss goes I wouldn’t take a chance on him for the sole purpose that he runs only one route and still has a bad attitude. I just don’t think he’s as good as he was anymore and that’s reason enough to not want him. I would rather have a high work-ethic receiver like Malcolm Floyd than a whiny, past his prime, selfish jerk. But that’s just me

by frenchbears113 on Apr 13, 2011 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

I couldn't have said it any better myself

E.F.K.

by DaBearBus on Apr 13, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions

I with this thinking that both go hand and hand.

Which is why if a Greg Little, Jonathan Baldwin, or Torrey Smith was to be available in the 2nd round at our pick they should give them strong consideration.

by Dominique Blanton on Apr 13, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions

I would rather have Leonard Hankerson instead of the guys you listed but point taken

by frenchbears113 on Apr 13, 2011 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions

I also like Hankerson.

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 13, 2011 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions

Classic!

I don’t want Randy Moss anymore than I want genital warts

by O-Line Wins Games on Apr 13, 2011 1:52 PM CDT reply actions

I can’t be the only one out there who wonders just a teensy bit if ~~Just~~ Dave ~~just~~ might secretly actually want genital warts. I mean, you’d hope not (to both genital warts and Randy Moss), but you never know. There are some strange people out there.

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by Spongie on Apr 13, 2011 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions

You can't go vertical when your horizontal!

The first thing that makes Peyton Manning great is the hard work he has put into learning the game, how to make good decisions and training his body to execute those decisions. The next thing is that great offensive line that gives him time to make good decisions, and lets not forget the last ingredient great receivers who not only can catch a ball but be where they are suppose to be every play.

In Green Bay if you take away their receiving corp and give them the Bears receiving corp do they go to the SB? I think they fall just a little short just like the Bears did. What would happen if you substitute Larry Fitzgerald for Devin Hester maybe not much if you don’t upgrade the offensive line. Its a team sport some parts may be more important than other parts but it still takes all the parts to make a team.

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Apr 13, 2011 1:54 PM CDT reply actions

You know if we would've just gotten Matt Jones we wouldn't be talking about any of this.

Just sayin.

When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow

by Ditkavsworld on Apr 13, 2011 1:57 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

Jail bate Jones? really?

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Apr 13, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions

guess I combined hate and bait for another new word.

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Apr 13, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions

Snicker.

Rec’d.

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by Steven Schweickert on Apr 13, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions

please no one encourage him

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 14, 2011 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions

I will not be stifiled!!!!

When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow

by Ditkavsworld on Apr 14, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions

here we go again

I'll roll up

by suckmyditka on Apr 13, 2011 2:01 PM CDT reply actions

I shudder

Not because I think Randy Moss would be a big waste of money (talent is there, desire is not) but because you used the words “Salivate” and “Thinking about Jay” in the same sentence. He’s a good kid and all but no.

by TheotherDane on Apr 13, 2011 2:03 PM CDT reply actions

What about Braylon Edwards?

He’s shown that when he gets good play out of his QB he can be a star (see 2007). Unfortunately most of his career has been spent dealing with sub-par QB play, and even then he was decent. I think if Jerry went out and picked him up it would really benefit both parties: Jay would get a big bodied go to guy (and he probably wont have a huge pricetag), and Braylon gets a good QB and good offensive system to play in

by IndyBearsFan88 on Apr 13, 2011 2:04 PM CDT reply actions

If we needed a "999" route receiver-- Yes!

But, the Bears need a go-to receiver that can do it all like Moss of 3-4 years ago or Fitzgerald in Arizona.

I say pass.

Semper Fi!

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1.) Cam Newton (give him two years)
2.) Corey Luiget
3.) A.J. Green
4.) Ryan Williams

by ChicagoMarine on Apr 13, 2011 2:12 PM CDT reply actions

Nope

All other things aside, I think Randy has pretty much shown he will not give effort for anyone other than the Pats. Well if there is much left that is.

It is time to get a serious receiver for Jay. No more projects, retreads, past their primes, or any other variance.

by TheMan1 on Apr 13, 2011 2:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

I'm with you that the Bears need to get a FA Wide Receiver

But I’d be too worried about Moss’ ego to pursue him specifically. I think Chad Johnson would be the best possible option assuming the Bengals are getting rid of him and I’m pretty sure he’d tone down the theatrics while with the Bears.

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by badsamaritan on Apr 13, 2011 3:02 PM CDT reply actions

Yes take Moss

Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.

by Bear Lovin 21 on Apr 13, 2011 3:15 PM CDT reply actions

NO!

Plain and simple

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Apr 13, 2011 4:35 PM CDT reply actions

... Every Sunday Morning ...

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“Virginia, if you can hear me: Carl Nicks and Sidney Rice”.

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by pbanachi on Apr 13, 2011 4:56 PM CDT reply actions

me likey

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 14, 2011 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions

EN OH!!!

Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!

by T.Moore on Apr 13, 2011 5:43 PM CDT reply actions

No on Moss.

Too obvious why it would be bad. The dude wants to be in New England anyway and he makes it publicly known, why sign a guy who doesn’t really want to be there? Not to mention his career is basically over. I’d be more willing to sign S. Holmes to the multi-year deal he’s looking for but we’re cool anyway because Andy Fantuz is going to become what we’ve been waiting for….i hope.

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 13, 2011 7:33 PM CDT reply actions

I give you credit for...

taking a devil’s advocate position. Sometimes we get a bit too personally vested in making arguments on this site and stop thinking rationally. It is useful to take a position and make an argument for the sake of investigating where it leads. However, in this case, I wholeheartedly disagree with your argument. Yes, the Bears do need to upgrade their WR talent. Moss is just not the answer; one-dimensional deep threat, old, slowed, and a serious and unnecessary distraction. He would have been a better choice in 1998 when the Bears could/should have drafted him or any one of 50 other guys than Curtis Enis. Rice, Holmes, Sims-Walker, are much better choices.

by LostInSTL on Apr 13, 2011 8:17 PM CDT reply actions

Good point

And I too, think Moss is way too much of a distraction – and at this point in his career, simply not worth the head-ache. And I’m sure Martz and Cutler have too many other, important things to worry about (like utilizing Forte and developing the play-calling) than baby-sitting Moss.

Back in ’98, he may have been a great pick. The only question, would he have been “motivated” to play for that Bears regime?

by JimmyMack on Apr 14, 2011 4:52 AM CDT up reply actions

I'd rather see TO.

TO hasnt gotten to play with a QB like Brady and has more drive than Moss. Moss expects too much to happen with the ball because of the mighty Brady. TO seems to put in the work but just complains when he doesnt get the ball thrown his way 10 – 15 times a game. Go after TO or Ocho. Fitz would be the best but don’t see it happening.

by Jonathan Heun Jr on Apr 13, 2011 8:26 PM CDT reply actions

Vincent Jackson

I bet San Diego would be willing to sign and trade. I don’t see an attitude problem with him. He got cheated of his free agency, like alot of players, but he decided not to accept it. Can’t say I disagree (how many of us would be pissed if we were offered a job with 3x the money, and then forced to stick with our current job and a boss we hate?).

So, Vincent Jackson, or maybe Brandon Marshall for me.

by Th3T1ck on Apr 13, 2011 11:19 PM CDT reply actions

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 14, 2011 9:04 AM CDT reply actions

His hair is glorious but I hear his cereal tastes like crap.

When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow

by Ditkavsworld on Apr 14, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions

The Fantuz Fro?

That pales in comparison to the glory of Ditka’s Moustache, my friend.

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by Steven Schweickert on Apr 14, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions

Sir the Mona Lisa pales in comparison to the Ditka Stache.

Putting anything up against the Ditka Stache is pretty unfair.

I do have a question though, is it just me or does Andy look a lot like this guy??

When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow

by Ditkavsworld on Apr 14, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions

He's the love child of Doug Flutie and Jeff Samardzija

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Apr 14, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs