Here are your 2011 Chicago Bears Draft Picks
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 1, 2011 6:00 AM CDT
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PrintEven though I always vote in those "Grade the Draft" polls, there is no way anyone can predict how an entire draft will pan out. Not after less than 24 hours, not even after a year. You want to really grade a teams draft haul, wait two or three years. Some rookies need a year just to get accustomed to the NFL speed. And In the Bears case, some rookies will take a red shirt year. Even speculating on a player this early in the game is nothing more than playing Pin The Tail On The Donkey. But... I was always good at that game...
1st round - Gabe Carimi will start somewhere in the 2011 season, tackle or guard, line coach Mike Tice will have him on the field. Playing in a pro style offense at Wisconsin will lessen his learning curve. In fact, Carimi made all the line calls in college. He's a four year starter at left tackle, but he has the intelligence to flip over to the right side, and he played some guard at a post season all star game. He has the type of size Tice likes for his linemen.
Personally I'd like to see him get a shot on the left side. He has the mentality of a left tackle. He's confident, he has a mean streak, he moves his feet well, he has a good hand punch, he plays with leverage, and he's media savvy (always a plus). Bottom line he's a good offensive lineman. If Bears fans have any lingering doubts in their head due to the last first round offensive line draft pick, it's safe to wash those away. This kid is will be good.
2nd round - Stephen Paea makes it 2 for 2 in picking up starters in the draft for Jerry Angelo. Paea will start at the 3 technique DT previously manned by Tommie Harris. He doesn't have the same kind of run you down speed that Harris used to, but Paea has a quick get off and bull like strength. He will collapse the pocket, and make it hard for quarterbacks to step up. The Bears defensive ends will enjoy that.
The Bears were prepared to draft Paea at 29, but Carimi slipped and their plans changed. Angelo showed an aggressive side not seen before when he traded up to get Paea. It looked like they had Paea and Marvin Austin with similar grades, because as soon as Austin came off the board, JA sprung into action and traded up for his guy. Some of the few pessimistic comments in our threads thought that the Bears gave up too much to trade up, so I went to the handy Draft Trade Chart to see for myself. The Bears 2nd rounder was worth 284 points and the pick they traded into was worth 370 points. The 4th rounder that it cost Chicago to move up was worth 45 points. I'll let you do the math, but it looks to me like the Bears did OK.
3rd round - Chris Conte will add depth to a position that needs it. It's not as sexy a pick as those first two, but after reflecting on it, and actually researching the kid, and listening to the suits give their take on the pick, I think it was a decent selection. Mike Mayock on NFL Network said the kid was getting a 4th through 6th round grade by some scouts, but as soon as the coaches got a chance to see the kid play they gave him a 3rd round grade. He's basically a one year wonder which kept him under the radar, but his senior year at Cal was pretty damn good.
Twelve starts at free safety, 1st Team All Pac-10, and his 72 tackles was third on his team. He has good size for a DB at 6'2" 197, but any talk about him bulking up to play linebacker is a reach. Never gonna happen. I think Mayock misspoke when he mentioned Conte was a LB early in his college career. He played corner his first three seasons at Cal. The early word from Angelo is that Conte will learn free safety.
5th round - Nathan Enderle was a head scratching pick. I understand it. I don't necessarily like it. I feel like a broken record with the domino effect I'm about to spew again. Had Calab Hanie stayed healthy last preseason, the Bears never would have signed Todd Collins, and they never would have had to expose Dan LeFevour to the waiver wire. The Bears drafted their developmental QB last year, they just couldn't hang onto him. It's all Hanie's fault.
Enderle didn't have very good overall numbers at Idaho, his best season was his Junior year (61.5 Comp % 22 TD 9 INT) which was also the only winning record Idaho had his 4 years. He's a four year starter and he has some of the intangibles that Mike Martz likes in a QB. He's a big kid (6'4" 240) that stands tall in the pocket, even when he's about to get hit. He's a very smart kid with a good work ethic. His arm strength is good enough. He didn't play in a gimmick offense, Idaho is closer to a pro style. He knows how to drop back and throw, although his footwork could use some work. Angelo has already stated that the Bears will not be pursuing a free agent veteran QB, so it's Jay Cutler, Hanie #2, and Enderle will have a chance to win the 3rd spot.
6th Round - James (J.T.) Thomas had 39 starts at weakside linebacker for West Virginia and was named 1st Team All Big East. He has the speed, athleticism, intelligence, and work ethic to play all 3 linebacker spots for the Bears, and as a reserve that could be what will be asked of him. Thomas is a classic high motor player that will give 100% effort at all times. In college he won multiple awards from his team and was a team leader.
Many of the negatives I've read in his scouting report can be coached up. If Bears linebacker coach Bob Babich can get his technique on par with his effort, he could be a surprise performer. As it is, he should be a core special teamer in the mold of a Tim Shaw.
I think this was a solid draft; it's not the direction I would have gone in the later rounds, but anytime you can find two immediate starters with your first two picks, you're way ahead of the game. Safety and linebacker are both positions that needed some depth. Conte and Thomas are both hard workers that want to be coached and they'll both put in the time to maximize their potential. Enderle is a project. According to Angelo he was picked at that time because he was a value pick so he must have been high on their board.
The last part of the draft tells me that the Bears must have some money allocated for free agency. Another offensive lineman and a corner would be a great start. A receiver would be nice. And as soon as the labor mess is resolved the Bears will be able to pursue some undrafted rookie free agents
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Jerry said we needed 4 starters from this draft
I count 2-2.5. Thought I heard Angelo downgrade to 3 starters more recently but we still really needed 4 (any mix of WR, LB, CB, DT, OL).
Two starters would still be a good draft by Angelo standards. Especially since those first two picks seem like very good bets to be quality starters on any team.
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just didn't have enough picks.
but they got quality and value at need positions. These were the players I wanted before the draft. They’re the players that pop when you watch film. Austin, Solder – for all their superior measurables, they just blend in.
Conte was a surprise. But there wasn’t anyone else I would’ve loved there, and we do need a free safety with range and size. Conte has both. Between he and Major Wright, that’s a lot of speed, intelligence and hitting.
Really curious to see the free agent plan. Hoping for Nicks and Edwards. Expecting substantially less.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on May 1, 2011 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree. They got what they paid for in most picks.
I was surprised there wasn’t a WR or RB in the later end of their picks.
Not sure Enderle will be anything more than a Hanie in the end, and that being said I hope they go out and sure up a quality backup. This piecemeal the 2nd stringer is killing the Bears (ala 2010 Playoffs).
Definitely liked the first two picks, heard good things about Conte during the College season, so it was nice to see him come to Chi-town.
As for suring up the WR and seeing what they can do for a protection RB (Meaning not expecting Forte to handle it all, and surprising the defence with a change of pace back). Not sure of the FAs who would fit the mold but man there’s gotta be something better than Chester… he was horrible. Not sure AP can manage that role… I’ve always been keen on Wolfe, though he hasn’t had ample time to show his potential, or hasn’t been worked in well enough to do so (IMHO). His ST’s abilities keep him in Chicago… but not sure that can hold up much longer. Bigger needs for the team.
Interesting what a healthy well protected Cutler can do in 2011, and what talent he will have to throw to as well… needing a legit #1 WR.. hasn’t happened with this crew yet.
by Cruisin4aBruisin on May 1, 2011 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions
They got a RB in this draft!
His name is Harvey Unga, from BYU, and he got drafted in the supplemental draft last year, the reason why we didn’t have a 7th rounder this year, so, in practical terms, they did draft a RB in this draft. I have heard great things about Unga and his film looks good. As to AP, I’m not sure whom you are referring to, you’re not talking about the other Adrian Peterson, right?
by Windy City Flyer on May 1, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed, not enough picks
Fortunately, every year there are 5-10 guys found in UDFA market who turn out to be real nuggets. Guys that didn’t go to a big school or have solid representation, or who weren’t invited to the combine.
Let’s all hope that with our current group of genius’ in our coaching staff they can identify 1 or 2 who can be surprise impact players.
Our division looks to be shaping up to be the most competitive in the entire NFL (save for Minny). An abbreviated Off season with the players will clearly hinder the coaches ability to mentor and evaluate. Let’s hope with our superior staff they can make some magic.
Overall this draft will prove to be one of the Bears better efforts. I will withhold any further criticism of the process to see how FA and the final 53 shape up.
Just win dammit!
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on May 1, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm somewhat upset that we didn't get Cannon...
I’m more pissed that the Pats took BOTH of the guys I wanted to see in a Bears uniform next year in Mallett and Cannon. Even with a redshirt year for Cannon, he would’ve been our future Guard, and Mallett would’ve fitted in quite nicely between Carimi, who he spent a couple years playing with, and Kreutz, who can play alongside anybody, before bumping inside and take over Olin’s job.
But those first two A+++ picks make up for a rather lackluster third day. Not bad.
If we took
Mallet we’d have the two least popular QBs in the league.
DEJESUS!!!
I can see the press conferences now.
They’d just double podium it, send them both out at the same time to say in unison “I’m not going to talk about that right now. I am just trying to focus on football.”
I would've loved Cannon with a late pick.
That said, even after year or so of chemo, he’s going to need another year to recover. And that’s assuming there aren’t any complications or relapses. So you’re looking at year 3 until he’s ready to play.
I don’t think our window is that wide. We need immediate o-line improvement. The best we can hope is that Carimi is a stud and JA realizes we still need size. And, of course, that the ownership is willing to pay for it.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Its too bad he was taken by the Pats in round 5
I would have really loved to see him in navy and orange this year.
However, the good news is that Carl Nicks is avaliable, and he would be a real upgrade to our interior.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I would have loved to see him on the Bears
that is until I found out the cancer thing. Really scary to draft a player with such a high risk disease, only to be outdone by the scary it must be to have such a disease.
Someone during the draft said that he only needs a short course of chemo,
something like 6 – 8 weeks. Obviously he’ll need to recover after that, but if it goes as planned, he may be playing a lot sooner than 3 years.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
I think Angelo went in a whole new direction after round 2 because they will be players in FA....
Also there are some big bodies on the roster for the oline like Herman Johnson and Levi Horn so maybe the need for help in the interior will come from a combo of FA and in-house. Edwin Williams I guess will indeed be the C of the future. As far as CB is concerned they needed depth and he should’ve drafted a CB instead of Conte. House and Brown were still available. But I think some people aren’t giving Josh Moore a fair shake. His big knock was a lack of strength and if he spent last season and this offseason strength-training he’ll be ready to contribute. WR is another need that was shockingly ignored. For Terrance Tolliver fans the Bears might be able to land him as an UDFA but I think once the lockout ends they may indeed make a real play for a VJax, Rice or Holmes. And Now that Paea is on board I think either Jenkins or Adams will be a Bear not both. I think Jenkins will win out on that front but you never know. The draft was solid if not good. Some headscratchers sure but the 2 most important picks are knockouts IMO. Hopefully that carries into the season.
I think Adams will be resigned.
Not only have both the Bears and Adams expressed a good feeling of each other resigning, but, as of now, Adams is the only nose tackle. Paea could help out in NT, but i think he will mainly play the 3-tech
I like your thinking there
As from what Jerry said after the draft about heading into FA with what appears to be a top priority for the Bears, and besides from where we were drafting its extreamly difficult to yield a draft where everyone is a starter.
I feel this draft has yielded 2 possibly 3 starters, with Carimi and Paea as no brainers and T.J. Jones as a sleeper.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I hate we still dont have a WR
Would have rather traded for another pick in the second and got Little or Torrey Smith. I don’t see us pursuing a #1 WR in FA. Probably just the second tier of FA WR. Like the first 2 picks and think the 3rd pick was bad. I don’t expect much in the 5th and 6th round anyway. While we most likely didn’t get 4 starters, we have 2 that might be career starters with some probowls between them hopefully. I think I like Braylon Edwards in FA. V Jax then Rice.
by Ryan21 on May 1, 2011 9:20 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Well a second tier guy like Malcolm Floyd isn't bad at all. He's big, a good route-runner, good hands and isn't a douche like Edwards is.
by frenchbears113 on May 1, 2011 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
anyone have a list of o-linemen on the bears practise squad? if i remember rightly we had a undrafted free agent from unlv last year that tice was happy with and could see him as a possible backup/starter in the near future.
I know who you're talking about.
Name is Johan Asiata (I think). Interior lineman
Overall I'm happy
I agree w/ SaintCee in that JA said he wanted 4 starters a week and a half ago and at the end of the draft we sit with 2, maybe 3. I understand we started with 6 picks and ended up with 5 but still, I don’t think Safety depth was as important as other areas. But again, the top of our draft was so solid for JA I am willing to let it go.
Either some of our practice squad guys and/or some free agents can fill out the rest of our areas of concern. Josh Moore could definitely be in the mix, maybe Edwin Williams or Herman and then a good FA like MSW or Malcolm Floyd to fill out the WR and we’ll be ready to defend the NFC North title!!
Although, I will say, if Matt Stafford ever gets healthy, man the Lions could be goooood.
Jay Cutler is still my quarterback.
man the Lions could be goooood.
Two years running, their drafts have been impressive.
NFC North is becoming one of the best, if not the best.
Their back seven is much better now, that they have Fairley
We Bear fans know how good a D-line can make a CB look. And Isn’t Delmas playing well?
To add, I think the Lions will do something in free-agency.
To make matters worse there are a few small reports suggesting that the Lions may be dark horse contenders for Nnamdi Asomugha
They don’t have a ton of interest in him, but they also will take a look into him. We could only hope they don’t sign him because if they do, look out!
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
somebody get some blackmail material on ja and make him take a run at nnamdi....
yeah right. Hopefully this stupid bitchin fest of rich people ends soon, so the teams can move forward by getting the players signed and in practice on time.
CAN’T WAIT!
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt". -Mark Twain
by pappabearhalas on May 1, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Me too
Really looking forward to see what Jerry has up his sleave in FA this year
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
if stafford.is up right
The nfcn has 3 really good teams
by chiguy8506 on May 1, 2011 1:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Correction.
Three years running. Even if you don’t count Matthew Stafford. Louis Delmas. Brandon Pettigrew, and DeAndre Levy make up a pretty good draft.
As stated in my post I feel this has been Jerry's best draft as GM of the Bears
The ultimate determination though will come in FA, as if he signs good players to fill in our remaining needs then this offseason gets an A where as this draft is the foundation for a successful offseason
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 9:55 AM CDT reply actions
Re: Conte
Now I found something from NFL.com about Conte playing LB
Pick Analysis: Lovie Smith loves having the presence of former linebackers in his secondary due to their ability to impact the running game. Conte spent the early part of his career operating as a “rover” at Cal before transitioning to safety this season. His toughness and tackling will upgrade the Bears’ back end, and he should be expected to make immediate contributions as a special teamer early in his career.
Perhaps the “rover” in Cal’s scheme is more like a hybrid nickle or a dime back?
Maybe someone that knows the California Bears program could come give us their first hand knowledge.
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 1, 2011 10:21 AM CDT reply actions
Ah I know the Rover spot quite well
As I played in a sceme at my high school in which I was a super sub at LB; learning Rover, Sam, Mike and Will (both OLB and ILB)
A Rover is a style of OLB that could come off the edge as a blitzer and drop back into coverage like a safety. Normally a CB kind of guy would be the primary player as it really is a hybrid between a Nickleback and a LB. I was the “super heavy” brought in either to blitz or play the run. It was a blast even though I was normally a reservist/special teams kind of guy.
Anyways Conte could certainly bulk up into a Tampa 2 style LB, he certainly has more than enough speed to do so.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I know what a rover is
but not every team uses the rover the same way. I’ve seen 5-2 teams use the rover as a strong safety that always went to the TE side and I’ve seen 4-3 teams use the rover as an 4th linebacker that becomes a hybrid 4-4.
But how was it used at Cal is the question…
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 1, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh okay
Cal is one interesting Defense, from what I see it looks like they use them more like a Nickleback kind of guy, with smaller LB/SS type guys being there.
But I could be completely wrong, its a very unusual Defense.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Cal often used 5 DBs and two LBs
and Conte was the hybrid LB/DB guy. He is an excellent tackler, especially in the open field. He had an excellent game against the Ducks option run game.
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by lookingdeadred on May 2, 2011 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions
good scouting!
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 2, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I know superlatives don't mean much...BUT, in 5 picks, we picked up...
One: Outland Trophy Winner- given to the best lineman in the nation, First Team All Big-10, All American.
One: Pac-10 2010 Defensive MVP
Two: First Team All Pac-10 Selections
One: First Team All Big-East
Not too shabby…
I really hope Tice can do some magic for Giant Herman Johnson
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
by SackMan on May 1, 2011 11:20 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
no one has yet
that guy’s been in the league for a few years now and he’s rarely seen the field.
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 1, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
My arguement for Herman Johnson is that he had been with the wrong team before coming to Chicago
Arizona tried to convert him into more of a Tackle than a Guard, and well Arizona’s O-Line is pretty bad.
Mike Tice really likes the guy and now intends on keeping him at Guard. He really has alot of upside to go with his size, he just needs to be given the chance to play and develop.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I remember back in December,
Brad Biggs said that they’d be working Johnson at RT.
But adding Carimi does change the landscape a bit…
He was worked at RT because that is what he was taught in Arizona
And Tice likes to see what someone has in their original position before moving them to another spot.
Herman Johnson was also worked out at RG and LG, so I see him slidding into either one depending on how FA shapes up.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Is 6'7" a little tall for guard?
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt". -Mark Twain
by pappabearhalas on May 1, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Not necessarily
I seem to remember some big guy in Dallas who is a great Guard himself, Davis I think. I really don’t think height is an issue here with him as even while being so large he played extreamly well at LSU against great competition.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Nothing I want more is to be surprised by 5 potential probowl linemen come the end of the season.
Hell I’d take 2 it would say progress has been made.
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt". -Mark Twain
by pappabearhalas on May 1, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
2 is 2 more than most teams around the NFL
I feel if we can field a group of 5 quality starters this season, we are set at reaching the Super Bowl.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I assume that Tice see's Johnson as more of a guard than tackle.
I think the whole RT thing was them seeing what other positions he can play along the line as Angelo likes offensive lineman that can play multiple positions.
by Dominique Blanton on May 1, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Im not going to be surprized to see him line up at RG
He definately has everything you would look for in a RG to fit Tice’s schemes.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, time to start correcting this
Definitely. No “a”.
Acreman20: 127 hours is pretty decent.
awfullyquiet: How long is that movie?
Acreman20: 93 minutes.
Nothing is going right in my posts!
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
That’s the problem with FA wishlists. We’re not the only team out there, and there’s a finite amount of money we can throw at them…
Acreman20: 127 hours is pretty decent.
awfullyquiet: How long is that movie?
Acreman20: 93 minutes.
That is true
On my post Ive revised my list with help from Midway, showing Derrick Dockery as a potential signee at LG.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
yep
In 2 years he’s done Zero in the NFL. If he gives the Bears something that’s gravy, but to “count” on him is something I’m not gonna do. It’s not like he was this failed 1st round talent, he was a 5th round draft pick.
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 1, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Aaron Rogers didn't do anything for 2 years
And look what he has done since his first opportunity.
We wont know just how good he is until we see him suit up during training camp. Im personally excited to see him as a Bear.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
An entirely different kettle of fish. For Rogers to get a chance to do anything, he would have had to displace Favre. Herman Johnson only had to displace the bad smell that was all that our offensive line had to offer. If Tice thought he could have had a chance to improve on any of the positions, he would have been brought in.
Acreman20: 127 hours is pretty decent.
awfullyquiet: How long is that movie?
Acreman20: 93 minutes.
by Spongie on May 1, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
God how I've missed our in game threads!!!
Wrecked for the use of
An entirely different kettle of fish
Football may one day come again. The in game thread will live on.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
Viva Le Game thread!
and the “Best Of” posts that follow!
by David in Maine on May 1, 2011 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe Herman Johnson was brought in so late in the season to learn the offense so this year he could compete
A red-shirt year if you want.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm, that might be a phrase that’s not made it across the Atlantic. I didn’t just make it up, I swear.
Acreman20: 127 hours is pretty decent.
awfullyquiet: How long is that movie?
Acreman20: 93 minutes.
Oh no my friend. I've heard it before. Just not very often.
Probably during a Monty Python routine.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
The Math
Bears trade
- (284)
- (45)
Total Points : 329
Bears receive:
- (370)
Total Points: 370
No overpayment, no underpayment a 3rd would’ve been way too much 50 or so points
Advanced Math 101
370 – 329 = 41
The Bears got the better end of the deal, they could have been asked to give up 4th rounder next year or maybe a 5th and/or 6th this year.
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 1, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
True
I tend to think this scale is not static, but that it’s shifting. Based on factors such as depth in the draft and other factors look at what the Falcons gave up to get Julio Jones
each team has to decide how valuable a guy is
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 1, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
you
are chippy tonight. i think he was doing the math because you had a typo in your post—you said the pick they got was worth 270 (it’s 370).
DEJESUS!!!
perhaps
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 1, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
For the most part, I pretty happy with the draft
Carimi and Paea are truly excellent picks.
With DMS possibly headed for the door, it was important to get some depth and athleticism at Safety. While not sexy, Conte is a need pick.
I’m with most folks on the Nathan Enderle. I don’t like it at all. Probably would’ve rather drafted a punter…
J.T., the LB from WV seems to be a solid pick for the sixth round. LB depth is needed.
punter..
heh. Enderle, I didn’t like either. Tim Barnes here would have been nice. He is an UDFA right now too. Decent Center prospect.
Anyway, I think this is what it came down to: Hanie isn’t under contract and may leave (small chance, but it exists). Collins isn’t coming back. We have Cutler, and that’s it. We needed someone, and I bet Martz picked that “someone”. I’ll take it.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
by Brendan Hess on May 1, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
and I bet Martz picked that "someone".
I had the same thought, which does lighten the disappointment of the pick.
I’m all about the Bears keeping Martz and Tice, as pleased as possible.
I'm sure if the labor BS wasn't going on ja would have gone with something other than qb.
I have to believe that otherwise I might get gray hair early in life :)
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt". -Mark Twain
by pappabearhalas on May 1, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh
Wasn’t really serious on the punter thing. Big humor fail on my part. Although it’ll be interesting to see what happens with that position this off-season.
One of the semi-decent corners would’ve been nice.
honestly though
Punter is a need by the Bears
It doesn’t look like Maynard is comming back, so the only camp body at punter we have is whats his name..Richmond McGee right?
I'll roll up
The draft "felt" lackluster on day 3
But what to expect with only 2 picks in 4 rounds? I didn’t expect much.
Carimi was a no brainer (yes I know I got cute with Reed in the staff call, but I was trying to lend a new perspective in a draft where I didn’t really expect Carimi to fall).
I worried Paea was a “nose” and not a “3 tech” from scouting reports that show him as mostly strength and not speed…until I watched his highlights. He needs to work on his hands so he can disengage when locked on better, but his first step is explosive and he is a gap penetrator.
Conte was part of the #1 PAC 10 pass defense and a lot of people said he had the highest ceiling of any Safety not named Moore this year, so upon further review, I like it. Manning is in a contract year, and Bullocks & Steltz have both shown their limitations already. Even if he is the 3rd best safety on our team for years, he will be a ST player and probably see the field at such an injury prone position. He will beat out at 2 people curently on our roster. I’d like us to keep Manning still though.
Enderle…Eh. If Martz is happy, fine. We needed someone under contract. Hanie isn’t even signed right now.
James Thomas looks like a WLB to me, which means he was drafted to be a backup, as Briggs isn’t moving. That is fine in the 6th, especially if he has the special teams speed we need.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
Well he is going to wear #72
And we all know a certain giant who wore that number.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
and did some blocking
For the best fb to.grace a football field period
by chiguy8506 on May 1, 2011 1:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
and did some blocking
For the best rb to.grace a football field period
by chiguy8506 on May 1, 2011 1:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
and ran over the entire Green Bay Packers secondary bulldozing into the endzone.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey!
Matt Suey was pretty darn good.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
Playing in a pro style offense at Wisconsin will lessen [Carimi’s] learning curve.
As will facing 3 fellow 1st-rounders in conference games (Kerrigan, Clayborne, & Heyward, son of the late “Ironhead”) and another in practice (Watt).
Dick Butkus: Best MLB ever!
by chi-town82 on May 1, 2011 12:08 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I think that is something that has been overlooked
I read on a previous post on WCG that he pointed to that fact in an interview and felt that he was the best Tackle in the Draft (and I think he’s got a good argument)
by IndyBearsFan88 on May 1, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I like this draft alot
I think in two to three years we will get 3 to 4 starters from it. Im excited to see what Conte can do, although I see him as more of a SS.
Also, the fact that Jerry went QB and LB with the last two picks could hint at the fact that he felt he couldnt get a guy with those two picks that could make an impact at WR or OG, and would rather go to the FA market to find a WR and OG who could be immediate starters. He could also be eyeing Michael Floyd in the suplamental.
Call me a homer
but I love this draft.
Carimi and Paea are mean beasts with athleticism, and will be better than solid out of the gate. Does anyone think Paea looks like a LB in game film? He wore “54” but moves very quick even for a penetrating type DT. He’s going to be a big time disruption versus O-lines everywhere.
Conte will prove to be a versatile safety who will end up being a nice backup or potential starter (injury) in his first season.
Enderle- the Bears lost the NFC title game because of the QB position. Whether it’s because Hanie and Collins played, or the fact that Cutler has yet to reach his ceiling. It’s a must IMO to add depth at the position.
Thomas- will learn all three positions based on the game tape I watched. He played inside and outside without a hitch. He could start from day one.
FA is going to be huge for the Bears, so we haven’t seen the finished roster yet. I’m really hoping for a huge splash like Asomugha. Man, this defense would be top-5 and #1 in forced turnovers.
"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse
Agreed
Asomugha would be a hell of a pick-up. And our defense would be much improved. I wonder what kind of money he’ll command, though…
With teams like the Cowboys and Redskins after him
You can expect a very large paycheck.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey now they were all ...
… after Peppers too and we got him .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on May 1, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
True...
But can we sign both him, Carl Nicks, and resign Olin Kreutz?
Theoretically we could because of no salary cap, but we would still have to cut some players.
If we have to cut players, I suspect it will be Roberto Garza and Chris Williams because we would have just signed a great Guard for a high price and we also drafted what appears to be our starter at LT, making that combined with the possible prospects of Johan Joseph and Herman Johnson stepping up at RG a plausible scenario.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
One big issue with Carl Nicks ....
…. hes an RFA . Meaning we’d have to give the Saints picks to sign him . To me that kinda takes him off the board , so to speak . And if I remember correctly most of the other top end FA’s got stuck with the RFA label also . Herman Johnson is a real question mark at this point and counting on him to step up and start is unreliable at best . Kid has it all , but his drive seems to be an issue .
Now onto Olin . In my opinion we go another way and that way would be Samson Satele C from the Raiders . This guy could be a real upgrade at center for years to come ( like 10 or so ) , whereas Olin has two decent years at best . I think Sampson could provide the same attuide that Olin brought to our line . He could also provide a much stronger interior presence to our line ( Olin’s been that for years , but age & injuries have caught up to him ) .
Now to the corner debate . With Tommie Harris’ mammoth contract gone & Peppers restructuring his deal we could afford a talent like Nnamdi . Now am I saying this is what I want ? Not really due to the fact that corners are really not as important to our system , but we do need someone else at the position no doubt . There are a ton of guys out there that could be had for much less money , like : Brent Grimes (ATL) , Carlos Rogers (WAS) , Johnathan Joseph (CIN) , Antonio Cromartie (NYJ) , Richard Marshall (CAR) & Richard Marshall (CAR) . All could be had for a fraction of Nnamdi and would provide use what we need …… coverage help .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on May 1, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Does Carolina really have two Richard Marshalls?
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
Hmm...I like that list you posted
You should bring that over to my post.
I like Carlos Rogers in that all though he doesn’t have the best set of hands in the world for a CB, he definately is a good coverage guy as well as a willing defender against the run. Antonio Cromartie is decent too, but I feel he has lost a bit of his touch over the years.
If I had to take another person instead of my personal favorite Aqib Talib, I would go with Rogers or Grimes as both are decent coverage guys who could be good fits in the Tampa 2.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, and about Carl Nicks
He may be a RFA, however the Saints have not offered him a tender just yet, and they also have the highest paid O-Lineman just on the other side of him. There is no way the Saints could afford both, and one of them would have to go.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Ummm actually they did tender Nicks ......
Adam Caplan of FOXSports.com reports that Nicks, who has three accrued seasons, received a first-round tender which would carry a $2.611 million base salary in 2011.
Heres the LINK . So it would take a first rounder to aquire Mr.Nicks . Almost all the great interior were tendered RFA style .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on May 1, 2011 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Now this is news to me
Damn, changes my whole perseption as to who we will sign in FA.
Well, could you list some names of quality Guards that should be avaliable in FA, as if he does have a first round tender then I’m not sure if Jerry Angelo will go after him.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
You should come on over to my post and provide some insight
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Yea, that guy lol
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
the possible prospects of Johan (Asiata) and Herman Johnson stepping up at RG
From nowhere (practise squad) to starter in one offseason? We tried that with Lance Louis and Edwin Williams. It didn’t go so well. I’m not sure JaMarcus Russell did an awful lot better, either.
You could do with taking out that Bears Kool-Aid IV drip… even Jerry doesn’t gush about his not-been-and-possibly-never-will-bes and other teams’ we-no-longer-want-them-but-they’d-be-sooooo-perfect-for-the-Bears discards quite as much, and we all know he can be infuritatingly optimistic at times.
Acreman20: 127 hours is pretty decent.
awfullyquiet: How long is that movie?
Acreman20: 93 minutes.
Er, JaMarcus Webb… though (Just) Dave did suggest JaMarcus Russell would make a good offensive lineman as (forgive me if my quote is imprecise) “He’s been standing in front of better quarterbacks his whole career” :-D
Acreman20: 127 hours is pretty decent.
awfullyquiet: How long is that movie?
Acreman20: 93 minutes.
Its who I am
An optimistic fan. Nothing is wrong with that imo.
We have some untapped potential here in Chicago, yet I will also say that new talent will be brought in to upgrade our interior.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
J'Marcus Webb.
J’Marcus. J’Marcus.
Weekend contributor at Windy City Gridiron
by Steven Schweickert on May 1, 2011 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
There is something that I actually got right!
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Madden doesn’t let me apostrophise. I has sadface :-(
Well, that and unfamiliarity with this J’Name thing, which is scarcer here than kettles of fish are over there (apparently). Since J’Dave – see what I did there – has taken up the call of the kettle, I shall now reciprocate and henceforth be known as J’Spongie :-D
Acreman20: 127 hours is pretty decent.
awfullyquiet: How long is that movie?
Acreman20: 93 minutes.
Highlight and other type vids
Carimi:
Paea:
Conte:
Cal DB highlights with Conte…..
Enderle:
JT Thomas:
You’re my offensive line and I like you all but you are all terrible at what you do....And I feel that I should tell you…..I would cut everyone of you if I could…..
- Mike Tice to his 2010 Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on May 1, 2011 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
what number will peae wear
I know it wont be 54
by chiguy8506 on May 1, 2011 1:14 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
92
http://twitter.com/#!/paeabeaver
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Nice!
And I also know that Carimi will wear #72
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
If anybody has any questions about Paea's athletiscism, just watch this video
Skip ahead to the 2:22 mark and keep an eye on the right side of the screen (LINK). This dude can move for a DT.
Great write-up Lester
Lots of good information. Thank you!
You should follow me on twitter https://twitter.com/johngio56! Bear Down!
Gracias!
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 1, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
You guys do an amazing job!
WCG is the quintessential place for all things Bears. And I mean it. I haven’t even looked at NFL Network or ESPN the last couple days. Everything I wanted to know about the Bears and their drat picks, I found here. And really, this is true any given week, but especially now.
Bravo!! BRAVO!!
by Skags on May 1, 2011 1:51 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Thanks!
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 1, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't watch any college ball
so i can’t make a call on how good any of these players drafted are or could be. All i know is that the first two maybe three rounds, of the draft, are closer to sure things than the later rounds which is like a drunkard tryin to throw a dart at a bulls-eye from 200 yards.
So all i can say is that i am happy to see OL and DL chosen in rds 1 &2, but upset that Angelo is the one who picked them.
Not sure if this is the right place to discuss this, but...
I see that Mark Herzlich was not drafted in the 2011 NFL draft. I, among others here, was interested in perhaps making a 6th round pick to take Herzlich, who would have been an early round pick if it weren’t for his cancer issues.
but now that he’s an UDFA, what do you think the chances are of picking him up once this lockout ends? I think he would be a great addition to add some linebacker depth and a project for a possible replacement for urlacher, whenever he finally retires.
I think its safe to say teams are stockpiling phone numbers on all the udfa's out there and as soon as the signings can start within a minute phones will be ringing.
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt". -Mark Twain
by pappabearhalas on May 1, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree
Hopefully, with the prestige carried by the Bears linebackers corps historically, we can be appealling for him, as I will guess he will have plenty of teams calling…
by Windy City Flyer on May 1, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
wouldn't mind seeing Herzlich at all
Watched him on NFLN working out with Mariucci and the guys on NFLN seemed to think he was at lear 80% his old self and still improving.
I'll roll up
With the drafting of Carimi
I’ve been reading some comments predicting the future of the Oline. And, it seems as if most people have basically given up on Chris Williams. Is that true of the Bears staff as well? Is he really done as a starting prospect?
by ChiTownSportsMaster on May 1, 2011 5:42 PM CDT reply actions
no
He’ll have a shot to start somewhere… earlier this week there was speculation he could start getting reps at C
Mike Tice will have the 5 best linemen on the field
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 1, 2011 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok good
I have an untrained eye, but I didn’t think Chris williams looked that bad
by ChiTownSportsMaster on May 1, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Who knows...
Perhaps Chris Williams will find his niche as an extra large Center.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 5:58 PM CDT reply actions
That would be very nice
If he can play above average somewhere on the line it’s a “win” for the team and us as fans!
"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse
Wouldn't it be something to see a 6'7 person play Center?
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Cutler’s 6’3". It could be all he sees, and I’m not even talking about when Williams gets shunted backwards into his own QB even quicker at the snap than he did from guard.
Acreman20: 127 hours is pretty decent.
awfullyquiet: How long is that movie?
Acreman20: 93 minutes.
That would be awful to watch
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Overall I liked the Bears draft.
I had a knee jerk reaction on the Conte pick because I didn’t like the fact we was picking a FS two years in a row in the 3rd round. I guess there plan if they lose Daniel Manning is to move Major Wright to the SS spot and Conte be the FS when Chris Harris contract runs out. I’m surprise to hear some draft analyst say that Conte was the best FS in the draft.
I wish they could have went with a developmental OL specifically a C instead of a developmental QB with the 5th pick, but they still have a chance once free agency opens up to find an undrafted FA C (Tim Barnes, Jake Kirkpatrick, and Zane Taylor are out there).
by Dominique Blanton on May 1, 2011 6:46 PM CDT reply actions
We've picked a safety (free or strong) 7 straight drafts.
It is getting a bit redundant.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
hopefully
Conte and Wright can prove to be legitimate future starters so we can focus on other positions.
We’ve picked a safety (freeoris the same thing as strong) 7 straight drafts
.
Acreman20: 127 hours is pretty decent.
awfullyquiet: How long is that movie?
Acreman20: 93 minutes.
Actually there is a slight distinction between the two.
Typically the strong safety lines up on the same side as the tight end on the field (the “strong” side). They are expected to help out more on running plays, although dropping back into coverage is still a duty. The strong safety is typically bigger and more of a heavy hitter. The free safety is more of the “read and react” position. Their primary duty is in coverage although often they make a decent blitz option as the are often uncovered on the line of scrimmage. Yes the two are essentially the same but I think the expectations for each and the physical/mental requirements can differ slightly. Hence the distinction. But…. it is not an entirely different kettle of fish.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
Bam!
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 1, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
kettle of fish...
well played
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 1, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I knew that, and you know that I know that, so… don’t tell me you typed all that out just to squeeze fish into kettles?
Acreman20: 127 hours is pretty decent.
awfullyquiet: How long is that movie?
Acreman20: 93 minutes.
Corps... Corps!
Just sayin’
God I miss the in game thread!
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
I've already got a plan for next year in case there's no football.
It involves Madden 12, livestreaming/webcams, and enough crazed people to do a gamethread to a video game.
Weekend contributor at Windy City Gridiron
by Steven Schweickert on May 1, 2011 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
haha
got a good laugh out’ve this idea. But can the other players in the game tweet on Cutlers toughness?
E.F.K.
Won’t be allowed ‘cos it’s not something the NFL allows. Players whose teams aren’t playing at the time, though, should be able to… which would make me pay more attention to bye weeks, injury lists and game scheduling. After all, if it’s in the game…
Acreman20: 127 hours is pretty decent.
awfullyquiet: How long is that movie?
Acreman20: 93 minutes.
and enough crazed people to do a gamethread to a video game.
Well, I already find myself watching games on Madden when it goes into demo mode… best thing is that it’s the ’07 edition so I get to see Sex Cannon go deep.
Acreman20: 127 hours is pretty decent.
awfullyquiet: How long is that movie?
Acreman20: 93 minutes.
I'll give this Draft a B-
The Carimi and Paea picks will yield immediate dividends, but the rest of this draft looks very pedestrian. No need to discuss the first 2 picks as everyone likely has the same opinion…Jerry Angelo must have been locked out of the war room while these picks occured because they were without question the right moves.
On to Round 3, although Conte is a solid athlete with upside, this pick was a major reach as he won’t see the field with the exception of ST for at least 3 years. I’m not sure what the Bears were thinking when much higher rated need players with potential such as CBs Davon House, Chimdi Chekwa and Curtis Brown, OL Clint Boling or WRs Tandon Doss and Edmond Gates. All would have been a better fit and value in the 3rd round for the Bears needs. House would have been my pick as 6’1 200lb corners that run 4.4 40s aren’t a dime a dozen.
In the 5th, we could then have gone after OT/OG DeMarcus Love, LBs Quan Sturdivant, Lawrence Wilson, Greg Jones or SS Tyler Sash. Sturdivant would be too good of a value to pass up here and would challenge Roach for a starting spot if brought back. While JT Thomas isn’t a bad 6th round selection, picking Sturdivant would have made the choice easy. Terrance Tolliver (WR) would give Cutler a large target with good hands and deceptive speed. While Tolliver didn’t get picked, I didn’t see that coming and I’d rather have him locked up than hope for UFA.
Absolutely Agreed
Angelo tried to outsmart everyone with the Conte pick. With Urlacher and Peppers not getting any younger and the window closing – this isn’t the time to get cute like that. Why not take a shot on an interior lineman or a corner – and just make signing Daniel Manning a priority?
And with all of them in their thirties, how many more years can we bank on Urlacher, Peppers and Briggs being able to play at a Pro Bowl level? In 2 or 3 years, maybe Enderle will be ready to be the #1 backup – but he doesn’t do anything for us this year. Why not instead take a chance on another position of need? Remember Brandon Marshall? The Broncos picked him up in the draft a few years ago – in the 4th round.
Undrafted Targets
Since the draft is done, there is still some talent out there. I hope the Bears are evaluating the following:
WR – Terrance Tolliver, Ricardo Lockette, Andre Holmes, DeAndre Brown, Lester Jean
LB – Mario Harvey, Mark Herzlich
DB – Deunta Williams, DeAndre McDaniel, Nate Williams
DL – Martin Parker
OL – Willie Smith, Jake Kirkpatrick, Alex Linnenkohl
RB – John Clay, Derrick Locke
All of these players with the exception of some of the project WR’s should have been drafted. Terrance Tolliver, Martin Parker and Willie Smith could be solid rookie contributors.
hey WilT
been reading but not much thoughts to add lately. Love the 1st 2 picks, not sure about the rest. I wish DB (Conte pick) would have been more towards the sure pick & not a reach, but I’ll be optimistic for his upside.
QB was a head scratcher for me too. What’s the Bears brass saying to Hanie? But, I’ll state that after reading/hearing a bit on Enderle, I’ll withhold judgment for a couple years.
I’m confounded with LB pick. Isn’t that the one spot that not a need just yet?
I haven’t the time right now to assess who was available in 3rd & 6th rounds so maybe the best available was who the Bears chose. I would have liked a WR or OL but maybe FA is when one or (hopefully!) both occur. We shall see…
I hope all is well.
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
Alright, I've been quiet about my draft thoughts but here goes...
1st Round – The Bears got lucky. What if due to JA’s stupidity, Carimi went to the Chiefs? Everything seems okay now because we got the guy we wanted, but what if? Thankfully everything worked out for everyone, although the Ravens sure don’t seem to think so. You would think they lost their first round pick. (BTW, it you were unaware, the Ravens had the same thing happen to them before only reversed and they were unappoligetic.) Carimi will anchor some spot on the line for a long time and was an excellent pick up. A+
2nd Round – Stephen Paea was a great grab and I have to give JA some credit for moving up to get him. I had originally like the idea of moving down somewhere to get a few more picks, but this worked out well. Paea should be a starter at some point this next season and possibly by the first game. I wasn’t sure about getting him in the first, but at this point in the second round, he made too much sense. A
3rd Round – I was not happy with this pick right away. But I cooled off and then came on WCG to see what other people were saying. Mostly negative comments, except Tim. After a few days, and some reading online I started to think that this could work out, but, then I watched some tape of Cal’s defense. I watched quite a bit and found that Conte seemed timid, bit on too many fakes and seemed confused. I understand it was his first year at safety, but I’m just not sure what JA saw in him. I think he could be a solid ST guy, but it’s not what we needed with that pick. I hope he proves me wrong but I’m not sure he will every provide much value for the team. D
5th Round – A little bit controversial taking Enderle here, especially because he could have gone later or even undrafted. But, I like it. Sure he may not have been on a winning team, but his size, fundamentals, vision, etc. seem really good from the tape that I have watched. And not just highlights. He has very good footwork IMO and despite some critics, his release seems quick to me. Good pocket feel and will step to avoid hits. He also isn’t afraid of taking a hit if he can get a pass off. I came away very impressed and think that Martz could make this kid a lot better than most expect. We needed a third QB and a project may be good for Martz. B
6th Round – While I know LB is an area where we needed some more depth, I was hoping for another OLineman, CB or WR prospect. That being said, I like this pick a lot. Another pick that I have now looked at a lot of tape about and think this kid’s insticts are fantastic. Definately will be a great ST’s guy right away, Thomas is one of those LB’s that just focuses on the QB’s eyes and follows. A-
Overall, a very good draft. Conte is the only question mark for me. Any draft where your top two picks are likely to start at the beginning of the next season is a winner in my book. I also think that we got some good ST guys. Remember, Wolfe, Graham and a few others may be gone next season and some guys are going to have to step up on ST.
Final Draft Grade – B+
The only problem is that I give the Lions an A and GB a B+. The Vikings will all depend on Ponder but I still give them a C+. Our division just got tougher.
by I Have Bearsititis on May 2, 2011 5:20 PM CDT reply actions
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- Former high-school star Brian Banks does serious time on trumped-up charge, now hopes for an NFL shot
- Former ‘idiot kicker’ Mike Vanderjagt in trouble after accosting junior-high heckler
- Adrian Peterson blows teammates away in footraces; appears to be on the mend
- UPDATE: Charlie Sheen didn’t buy Lawrence Taylor’s Super Bowl ring
- Alex Smith gets blown up by Jon Beason over Cam Newton comments
