Analyzing The Enemy: The Minnesota Vikings 2011 Draft - Part 1: The First Five Picks
Last year was a rough one in the land of purple. Expectations were riding high on the heels of an NFC Championship Game appearance and one of the best statistical seasons ever from Brett Favre. Alas, as went Favre so went the Vikings......and Favre went down. The Vikings did little but postpone the inevitable rebuilding process by signing Favre two years ago, and they now find themselves in that spot again.
Possessive of an aging defense and a vacant starting QB position, the Vikings still have pieces to build around. Adrien Peterson is the best RB in the league, for my money, and Jared Allen still has gas left in the tank. But they walked into the draft needing a new QB, lots of help on the offensive line and lots of help in the secondary. Add to that the fact that the Williams wall is getting old as wqell as the fact that Ray Edwards, Mideau Williams, Chad Greenway, Pat Williams and Sidney Rice are all scheduled to be free agents and you can see that the Vikings are at a transition point and that this draft was of the utmost importance.
So how did they do? Follow me to the clearing at the end of the jump and we'll look together!
The Vikings had 10 picks in this years draft, including four 6th round selections. Today we'll take a look at the first 5 choices they made.
In the first round, the Vikings got spooked when three quarterbacks went off the boards in the top 10 picks and reached for Florida State QB Christian Ponder. Ponder is a 6'3" 230 lb three-year-starter. He's a dink and dunk passer probably best suited for a west coast offense and he needs to work on his downfield passing game. He's very mobile but is often too quick to take to his feet. That being said, he does have very good pocket presence and feels defenders closing in well. He has solid mechanics and his arm strength is above average, though hardly in the Jay Cutler range. He is very decisive, a great leader and an intelligent kid who has already earned his MBA. He does have durability issues after suffering several arm and shoulder injuries at FSU. Honestly, while I know everyone is down on this pick, I actually think the Vikings made the best possible move for their club with this selection. Ponder had a late first to early second round grade and most thought him the third best QB in the draft. He has all the physical skills, he has the intangibles and he has the intelligence. If Ponder can avoid injury, he could very well end up making Carolina, Jacksonville and especially Tennessee, along with all the scouts and "experts" looking very stupid. Unfortunately, the possibility also exists that he becomes 2011's Chad Pennington with all the talent in the world robbed by injury. Still, I'm higher on this pick than most people are, and I give it an A.
The second round saw the Vikings grab themselves Greg Olsen V2.0 aka Kyle Rudolph. Want to know who Kyle Rudolph is, look at Greg Olsen. The 6'6" 265 lb TE from Notre Dame is being compared regularly to Jason Witten, but he far more closely resembles Olsen. He is a fantastic receiver with great hands, great routes and great body control. And he can't block. Like G-Reg, he can't block. He gives it the ol' college try, just as Olsen does, but just doesn't possess the skill. And as with Olsen, this can be corrected to some extent. Living in South Bend, I've spent the last few years watching Rudolph play, and he's the real deal. He will make the Vikings better in 2 TE sets. But I question the wisdom of the pick. The Vikings already have Visanthe Shiancoe and they have far greater needs than a 2nd TE. Rudolph might have been the best player on their board, and I have problems arguing that, usually. But in this case, I'm going to say that they should have taken the second best player on their board. Still, I can't deduct much for that and I give the pick a B-.
The Vikings got great value at a need position in the 4th round when Iowa Defensive Tackle Christian Ballard fell to them in the 4th round. He's a high motor DT with a good interior pass rush. He has the versatility to play DT or End, as well as the size at 6'5" and 285 lbs. He reminds me a lot of Israel Idonije. Not necessarily elite, but has the fundamentals and work ethic to succeed admirably. He diagnoses plays well, but struggles to anchor in running situations and needs to get stronger. Overall, I like this pick and I give it a B.
This years whole crop of CBs seemed to fall farther than expected, and the Vikings grabbing Brandon Burton in the 5th round is no exception. Burton had a 3rd to 4th round grade and the Vikings managed to get another need filled. That said, Burton seems kinda wrong to me. He doesn't fit what the Vikings usually want in a corner. The 6' 190 lb corner has 4.50 speed great hips and a good backpedal. He's good in man coverage and solid ball skills and leaping ability. But he is poor in zone coverage and he is nonexistent in run coverage, two thing the Vikings usually value highly in their corners. He's also fairly inconsistent. Overall, I think this was a need pick and the Vikings are going to have to do a lot of work with Burton for him to fit what they do. This would be why I couldn't penalize them much for the Rudolph pick. When you draft for need, you end up in this kind of position. I give the pick a D.
I was stunned that the Vikings didn't address the offensive line earlier, but they did finally get around to it in the 6th round with Arkansas tackle DeMarcus Love. The 6'5" 315 lb linemen is projected as a guard in the NFL, though he could end up at tackle. Love was a nice nab in the 6th. He plays with power and is equal as a run and pass blocker. He has good size and long arms and he has excellent hand play. He held his own against top talent in the SEC and usually rose to the occasion against the best talent. But he has poor lateral agility, which is why many see a move to the right side or to the interior of the line. He sometimes has problems with speed rushers and struggles with stunts. Additionally, he needs to work on bending at the kness instead of at the waist. The Vikings waited far to long to start grabbing linemen, but they could have done far worse than DeMarcus Love. I'll give the pick a B-.
Those are my thoughts on the first 5 picks the Vikings made this year. Now let's hear yours. And tune in later for an evaluation of their last 5 picks.
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I'm really not sure how Ponder gets ....
… an A considering he was a big reach at 12 . Most considered him to be a late one early two type pick and he went at 12 because the Vikes got QB scared . Rudolph was a bit of a head scratcher with Bowers left on the board & them needing a DE to pair up with the Mullett . The only two picks I consider solid , no question picks are Ballard and Love .
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by MidWayMonster54 on May 11, 2011 10:09 PM CDT reply actions
That's easy.
Ponder filled the biggest need on the team. My question is simply this: so what if they took him a half a round ahead of projection? Why are we so caught up in a half a round difference in projection made by people who thought Tom Brady wasn’t talented enough to be drafted, that Rysn Leaf was going to be better than Peuyton Manning, and that guys like Rex Grossman and Tim Couch were 1st round material?
If the Vikings wanted Ponder, he wouldn’t hav e made it to the second round. Shanahan was rumored to want him, so if bthe Vikings wanted him, they had to take him at that point. If they waited, they would have filled their single biggest need with a lesser player. That’s why it got an A.
0rudolph isn’t exactly a mystery, either. He’s a first round talent draftd as BAP.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on May 12, 2011 4:20 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
it's all a question of mathematics
If they would have traded down, and be able to pick Ponder + a 4th or even 3rd rounder, then if Ponder = A, then Ponder + X = A+.
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by BearDownIsrael on May 12, 2011 4:40 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Except it is generally thought that Shanahan would have grabbed Ponder with the 16th pick.....
Shanahan traded back from the 10th pick expecting to grab Ponder at 16, and got caught when the Vikings grabbed him at 12. In other words, your scenario is exactly what went wrong for the Redskins. Had the Vikings traded back, they would have lost out on the QB they wanted, just as the Redskins did. But I agree, if they could have made it happen, it would have been even better.
My whole point, though, was that I am not nearly as down on this pick as most are. In fact, I think it was a good grab, and I probably would have done the same thing if I had been in the Vikings FO. They filled their biggest need in the best way possible. That is an A, if you ask me.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on May 12, 2011 6:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Personally...
I don’t see Ponder as a starting QB in the NFL. Reminds me a little of Jimmy Clausen for some reason. I just could never take an injury-riddled QB who had moderate success in college with the 12th pick in the draft. I think they would have been better off taking Amukamara or one of the OLinemen here and then try to trade up into the late first or very early second and take Kaepernick or Dalton. I think both of these QB’s come in with at the same level as Ponder, but I like their upside so much more.
Trading up in the second would have cost them a few picks but they would end up with two immediate difference makers in a starting QB/OL pair or QB/CB combo. This would have been better for them then a QB/TE. Shiancoe is already a good TE and while Rudolph may be good value, he doesn’t fit their needs at all.
First two rounds, IMO, they grade out as a C-. They could have done so much more.
by I Have Bearsititis on May 12, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Ponder may be the best West Coast QB in the draft class
He was a reach at 12 and I think the Vikes could have traded back a few spots to pick up another pick or two. Maybe they tried… either way they got a QB that fits their system.
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 12, 2011 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Vikings fan here
wandering into enemy territory… But I lived in Crystal Lake, so that counts, right?
Rudolph was a perfect pick for the Vikings, but even the local media in MN has missed the rationale.
Looking at the current TE’s on the Vikings’ roster, you can see why they targeted Rudolph in the 2nd round:
Jim Kleinsasser – 13th season, free agent after 2011
Visanthe Shiancoe – 9th season, free agent after 2011
Jeff Dugan – 8th season, free agent after 2011
All 3 incumbent TE’s are getting up there in years, and every one could be lost to free agency in a year (if they aren’t released first or they don’t retire).
Now add to that the fact that new offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave said he wants to use 2 TE sets in MN, just like he did in Atlanta, and you can see the TE mess looming on the horizon.
As for Ponder? He may be a reach by mock draft standards, but I think a real reach is defined by whether a team could have gotten that same player much later in the draft, and I’m no longer convinced that would have been the case. Most ‘experts’ had Ponder ahead of Dalton and Kaepernick, who both went early in the 2nd round before the Vikings’ next pick. Looking at the QB-needy teams that drafted between the Vikings 1st pick and where the Bengals took Dalton, I now think Ponder would have been gone by the 20th pick or so.
As for the Bears… Well, I’ll always take the Bears over the Packers. Even the Detroit fans are getting a little to big for their blue and silver britches this year. They draft Fairley, and they’re already buying airfare to Indianapolis for the Super Bowl. Please… Go Bears?
Anyone who calls the Williams Wall the 'Williams Sisters' cannot possibly be a real Vikings fan. Check back with me when Ray Edwards has gone to a Pro Bowl or is being talked about as a future Hall of Famer.
I gave their draft a C- at best
First two rounds were bizarre and scattered, anything that happens by the third round or later is a crap shoot so there is no point in even trying to evaluate those picks beyond what we already know. Giving this draft a B- is a gift. Was just to all over the place for my taste. But can say that Im happy that the Vikings did not get another AP this draft. No high spots will hurt them, its how I rate drafts this soon after. Its all about the impact players, or lack there of it in the Vikings case.
The Lions are an example of a solid draft, hate to say it but that team is going the right direction. We should be good against the Vikings and the Lions this year, however I expect the Lions to be a legit division contender in 2012. The Vikings are old and with drafts like this should stay middle of the pack for years to come.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on May 12, 2011 12:45 AM CDT reply actions
I disagree....
I think they grabbed the Best player available at their biggest need in the first round, then went straight up best player available from that point on. I know that doesn’t always satisfy the fans, but it does generally build better teams. Ask the Packers, Colts, Steelers and Patriots, all of who are BPA draft philosophy subscribers.
They got Ponder a half round ahead of schedule, but only 4 picks above where he would most likely have went if they didn’t nab him, and every other player of their first five grabs was drafted lower than his projection. Rudolph had a first round grade. Ballard had a 3rd round grade. Burton had a 3-4 round grade and Love had a 4-5 round grade. So all of them were taken at least a round later than their projection. That tends to lend to the idea that they were drafting BPA.
And as the above mentioned teams show us, drafting for the fans happiness doesn’t win consistently. Drafting BPA does. The Vikings did a better job than they are being given credit for, and if they continue to draft like this they will be contenders again very soon.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on May 12, 2011 6:41 AM CDT up reply actions
And great job on this series by the way!
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 12, 2011 8:53 AM CDT reply actions
Thanks, Les.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on May 12, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Idk about making the Titans look stupid
Jake Locker imo is a much better rookie QB.
Also, after watching him play ball at FSU being stuck in the Fla, he does have the physical traits to be a solid QB, but when he is under pressure then you have yourself a turnover machine. He will fumble and throw ints if he is under consistant heat. Albeit he is coming to an offense that has an all-pro RB and as of now a great group of WRs, their OTs are perhaps the worst pair in the league, and if they can’t get that resolved when you throw in the fact Sidney Rice may be a FA (may) then they may put themselves back for a while. I don’t think Ponder can start from day 1, and if you force a guy to start when they ain’t ready then you are screwed.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 12, 2011 8:58 AM CDT reply actions
Omiyale and Webb would like to have a word with you
their OTs are perhaps the worst pair in the league
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I mean for those two (Vikes) O-lineman to be touted as pro bowlers
Then when reality set in with both those players, they really stank up the place!
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 12, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I would throw in Omiyale's name in a heartbeat
J’Marcus Webb on the other hand was solid as the season went on, while getting reps against some of the best DEs in the league no less.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 12, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
J'Marcus Webb's "solid"
and real “solid” are totally different.
Even as he got better, he was still bottom 5 in the league.
Omiyale was actually the Bears’ strongest lineman last year, i know i know the whole “tallest midget” thing.
I'll roll up
I don't pay any real attention to stats reffering to O-Lineman
For the reason that mistakes and blown assignments could be given to someone else depending on that said person’s perspective. J’Marcus Webb has received more critisism than he deserves.
Its not easy being thrown into the fire as a 7th round rookie harolding from a Dll college somewhere in Texas. He has the capability to blossom into a good Tackle, he just needs a bit more time. Not all O-Lineman are going to be superstars the moment they step into the league. Lets give him another full offseason and training camp with Tice before we start delivering judgements.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 12, 2011 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
While I do think Ponder was a big reach...
you are correct that Frazier et al did the best they could with limited options. The problem is going to be the O-line, starting to sound familiar? Peterson is a workhorse and will get his yards, but the Vikings are going to have to work towards the passing offense that has eluded them for all the but the Favre experiment. With Ponder and a bad o-line and some questions about the make-up of their WR corps, I do not expect the Vikings to be very competitive in the NFC North. Add a sucktastic back-end to their defense and I see the Vikings prying off the strangle hold the Lions have maintained on the NFC North cellar door keys! The Bears should be able to crush the Vikings who have a year or 2 to figure out their identity.

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