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Grading the Chicago Bears Draft... from 2008

CHICAGO - NOVEMBER 28: Matt Forte #22 of the Chicago Bears runs against the Philadelphia Eagles at Soldier Field on November 28 2010 in Chicago Illinois. The Bears defeated the Eagles 31-26. (Photo by Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images)

This is the time of year when everyone slaps a letter grade on a draft class, and I wanted to get in on the fun.  Only I'm not about to grade the 2011 draft class, I'll go as far as saying I like the collective group of rookies.  Obviously I like those first two rooks better than the others, but I'm optimistic on their potential as a whole.  I think it takes a few years before you can really tell how good a draft was, so after the jump I'll take a look at the Bears 2008 Draft Class, and offer up my arbitrary numerical grade for them based on draft position, productivity, and probably a hunch.

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1st Round - Chris Williams has been a disappointment.  I'm not as down as some are on him, but as the 14th overall pick in the draft, he should have established himself as a solid NFL starter by now.  I don't care at which position, but at this point in his career, what the Bears are gonna get from him shouldn't be a question.  62%  needs to show better effort

2nd Round - Matt Forte hasn't been named to a Pro Bowl, but few backs in the league can match his all around effectiveness.  His second year he grounded out his yardage while nicked up, yet he didn't say a word, he just came to work and did his job.  I'm excited to see him run behind an improved line and with another year of familarity in the Mike Maryz offense.  89%  a pleasure to have in class

3rd Round - Earl Bennett spent his rookie year trying to learn 3 positions and it stunted his development, but in years two and three he flashed the kind of skills the Bears were expecting.  He may never be a #1 receiver, but he's a great complimentary wide out that will catch the ball in traffic, run hard after the catch, and block his tail off.  80%  Listens and follows directions well

3rd Round - Marcus Harrison has shown flashes that he could be a consistent rotational defensive tackle, unfortunately it's just in spurts.  He seems to have regressed from a promising rookie year.  The Bears even flirted with him at defensive end to give him more opportunities.  65%  Could benefit from improving his work habits

4th Round - Craig Steltz is a capable special teams guy, and that's probably as far as his talent will take him.  But as a 4th rounder, you hope at the very least to draft a guy that will stay on your roster and contribute, and Steltz gave them at least that.  70%  an enthusiastic participant

5th Round - Zack Bowman was injured him rookie year, showed some promise in year 2 by starting 12 games and interception 6 passes, then lost his starting job after 3 games and spent some time in Lovie Smith's doghouse.  Most fans don't expect a thing from him in 2011, but what if he regains his confidence and plays like he did in 2009? 75%  needs to apply himself better

5th Round - Kellen Davis has been a real good special teams player and the few times he's been called on offensively he's come through.  He was miscast as the blocking TE early in his career, but his blocking has improved quite a bit.  He'll be on the roster again in 2011.  75%  still hasn't reached his full potential

7th Round - The Bears had five 7th round draft picks and three are still kicking around the league.  Joey LaRocque, Kirk Barton, and Ervin Baldwin are still hanging on.  Marcus Monk and Chester Adams not so much.  Since none really did much in Chicago this round gets a collective 56%  The gates are down, the lights are flashing, but the train isn't coming.

Pulling out my trusty solar powered calculator and averaging up the totals, then tweaking it (I grade on a curve), and I come up with the Bears 2008 Draft geting a solid C.  Chris Williams and Zackary Bowman will need to show something in '11 to bring this grade up.

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I'd probably say C+.

Forte is a gem of a pick, and Bennett IMO is better than a lot of ppl are giving him credit for.

That being said, our #1 is essentially a waste with Carimi taking over LT and Webb being unusually productive at RT. He’ll need to reinvent himself in order to become useful.

by Doshi on May 3, 2011 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Here's a little fun spin on Gabe Carimi from ESPN's TMQ

TMQ | December 14, 2010

TMQ thinks the best college football player of 2010 was left tackle Gabe Carimi of Wisconsin, recipient of the Outland Trophy. There were many tremendous performers at Oregon, Auburn, Stanford and other schools; Carimi was best from my perspective. Wisconsin piled up amazing rushing yardage with simple tactics, often “50” or “70” runs behind the left tackle. Carimi was never involved in recruiting monkey business. Unlike Newton, who may have cheated when at Florida, there are no questions about Carimi as a genuine student. Carimi made the 2010 Academic Big Ten team, which means at least a 3.0 GPA.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on May 3, 2011 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

And on the flipside..

Here is what the fool, Jason Cole, thinks of the Bears draft on Yahoo.

How on earth is Carimi not “that good” and “doesn’t fit what the Bears want to do”? I’m pretty sure that the Bears want a lineman who will block. Carimi won the Outland Trophy for best offensive lineman in the nation as a blocker.

Grade: F
Analysis: This is a grade on principle. If you agree to a trade, you should follow through on it. GM Jerry Angelo’s wimpy way of backing out of his deal with Baltimore is just unmanly. This is the same guy who once complained about San Francisco tampering with Lance Briggs(notes). No GM in the league should ever trust Angelo again and to do that to a person as classy as Ozzie Newsome is just ridiculous. The Bears should have sent the pick to the Ravens simply as an apology. Beyond that, Angelo guessed wrong about who Kansas City was going to take and ended up getting Carimi anyway. Here’s even more bad news: Carimi isn’t that good and doesn’t fit what the Bears want to do. Paea in the second round was a solid pick, even if he cost a lot to get, but Conte was a stretch in the third round.

by I Have Bearsititis on May 3, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

He graded based on the failed trade

What a chump!

How is the best linemen in college football not that good?

"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse

by propheteer on May 3, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the alternate universe where Asante Samuel just picked off Jay again.

Good linemen aren’t good and players that are out somehow dominate a game.

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by Steven Schweickert on May 3, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jason Cole is a tool.

He know less about football than my wife – she picks teams based on the color of their jerseys.

If he really knew what the hell he was talking about he would have a job in football, not on Yahoo.

Just win dammit!

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on May 3, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh yea this Jason Cole fella is about to make me change my to Dilfer+Cole= Biggest Dbags with nothing positive to offer.

by Dilfer_The_Dbag on May 3, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

F on principle???

Sombody tell this Moron that they don’t award the Lombardi Trophy on “Principle”.
Also I don’t consider “Yahoo” as a platform for football insight!!!

pbanachi

by pbanachi on May 3, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Their Fantasy guys are usually pretty good.

At least in terms of analyzing individual performances, not necessarily teams.

by Doshi on May 3, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say C+ as well

If CW and Bowman end up starting again because of good play, then this should be a B+.

"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse

by propheteer on May 3, 2011 12:20 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd take it a step further...

If they can get CW starting at a position, and Kellen Davis on the field I’d give them a B+. Kellen Davis really has the ability to be the steal of the ‘08 draft if his current level of production scaled up in the increased role he’d have on the field.

by Jacob Hayes on May 3, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't count on anything from CW

He will probably compete for a tackle job, and if the Bears don’t find a suitable LG in FA then he may get plugged in their. But C Will is definitely not a guard, merely a stopgap. Reference the play where Haynesworth pushed C Will right from the snap directly into Cutler on the goal line, and Haynesworth was a tird last year

E.F.K.

by DaBearBus on May 3, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Williams was too high on the play, no leverage

and Haynesworth had a Titans flashback… The times I’ve graded out his play he’s been ok, nothing special, but he’s had some moments where he shows the potential.

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 3, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Plus

Wasn’t that game his first or one of his first at LG?

"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse

by propheteer on May 3, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I think it was

The more I think about it yeah he was okay, but that was in the context of the worst O Line in football. He may suffice at LG this year, but I would like to see at least two maulers if not 3 at LG, C, and RG.

E.F.K.

by DaBearBus on May 3, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with this grade...

But, there is potential for it to get much better and it pretty much depends on Williams. He is going to have to find his place and play like he was at the end of 2009-2010 season.

by I Have Bearsititis on May 3, 2011 1:48 PM CDT reply actions  

The current grade is a "C"

But if Chris Williams turns into a real Left Tackle, and Bowman regains form and takes a starting job back (and plays well in it) then its an “A”.

Finding a starting LT, RB, WR and CB in a draft has A all over it. Conversely, if Williams stays at Guard and develops and we get something from Harrison or Bowman, it could become a “B”.

"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin

by Brendan Hess on May 3, 2011 5:15 PM CDT reply actions  

I think Chris Williams days at LT are done.

The Carimi pick, and the coaches being high on Webb makes me believe he has to make his mark at LG.

by Dominique Blanton on May 3, 2011 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

as a 4th rounder, you hope at the very least to draft a guy that will stay on your roster and contribute

We had practically nothing from 3rd rounder Marcus Harrison last season – he was only active for a handful of games. He’s got to be playing for his roster slot come preseason (assuming there’s a season).

Acreman20: 127 hours is pretty decent.
awfullyquiet: How long is that movie?
Acreman20: 93 minutes.

by Spongie on May 3, 2011 6:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree he wasn't much last year

he’s regressed since he’s been in the league, dog house, out of shape, whatever… this might be his last shot in Chicago

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 3, 2011 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

His disappointing play has put him in a uphill battle.

He’s most likely behind Toeaini, Adams (if resigned), Melton, and Paea.

by Dominique Blanton on May 3, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think his last shot was last year

I can see him being cut in training camp if there is one..

We are serving up Carimi Pancakes!!

by tfrabotta on May 3, 2011 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

that would fine with me

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on May 3, 2011 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I give it four Conan O'Brians.

When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.

Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.

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by Robert Rence on May 4, 2011 12:22 PM CDT reply actions  

I will give this draft a B-

For the fact that the jury is still out on Chris Williams, combined with the fact Matt Forte and Earl Bennett have become studs in our offense as Matt Forte looks to be a future pro-bowl RB while Earl Bennett continues to be that 3rd down target for Jay Cutler, much like it was at Vandy oh so many years ago (2005). Also right now Im not very pleased with Zack Bowman’s progress, but he has shown flashes of potential.

If Chris Williams can stay healthy and compete for his job, and if Zack Bowman could improve on his coverage skills then I would give the draft a solid B+. If those 2 continue their paths to becoming busts then this draft remains a B- or even falls to a C in my book.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on May 4, 2011 8:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Zack Bowman was a 5th rounder so it’s hard to rate him as a “bust” – if you get something out of a low-rounder, great. If not, it was only a 5th round pick. Missing on 1st and 3rd round picks, on the other hand, is exactly the sort of thing that cripples franchises.

Acreman20: 127 hours is pretty decent.
awfullyquiet: How long is that movie?
Acreman20: 93 minutes.

by Spongie on May 4, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

My question is

How did he drop so far so fast? Was he just a product of the Bears dominate D-line or does he have real talent?

So many questions….so little time.

‘11 season is Zach’s and Marcus’ make or break year.

"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse

by propheteer on May 4, 2011 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I recall he missed one tackle in the first Green Bay (?) game, after which he was pulled and basically never saw the light of day again. As much as anything, it could well be the infamous Bears’ coaching staff doghouse.

Acreman20: 127 hours is pretty decent.
awfullyquiet: How long is that movie?
Acreman20: 93 minutes.

by Spongie on May 5, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

It really bugs me when the Bears do that.

A good player makes one mistake, and they never give him another chance. Bowman missed a tackle, and was basically never given another chance. Same thing with Aromashodu, where he dropped a pass or two, and was benched for the rest of the season.
It really bugs me because these two players have REAL talent, but the Bears are too stubborn to give them more chances.

by saterpstra on May 6, 2011 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Although, Aroma couldn’t block to save his life. I think that had more to do with it than just those dropped passes.

"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse

by propheteer on May 8, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

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