Chicago Bears 2011 Free Agency(when that happens)
Now that labor talks are heating up and a deal is possible before the 4th of July- maybe even this week in Chicago- its time to start thinking about free agency and trades. Free Agency will follow up on a new deal between the owners and players(whenever that happens).
Although our Bears had a pretty good draft, there are still three positions I think we need an upgrade at: WR, CB, and OG. Here are some guys that we can aquire through free agency and trade that will immediately upgrade those positions:
Offensive guard: The ends for the future are-hopefully-set with Carimi and Webb. the inside of the line is a problem now. Chris Williams still needs to adjust to LG(assuming that's where he plays in '11), Olin Kruetz, as we know, in a free agent, and Roberto Garza is old, had a terrible year last year(proof? He was on the No-Pro team last year, according to the Yahoo Sports blog Shutdown Corner), and will probably just get worse as he winds down his career. I think we should re-sign Kruetz, keep Chris Williams at LG where he should improve, and find a replacement for Garza at RG. Here are some free agent guards that I would like to see the Bears bring in:
Carl Nicks(NO): Definitely someone that you would want to go after. But will the Sainits really let him go?
Kyle Koiser(DAL): He is injury-prone, but he would be a good upgrade.
Robert Gallery(OAK): Underrated player because he is pretty much the only good lineman on a poor O-Line
Alan Faneca(ARZ): He is over 30 and his best days are behind him, but he is still a future hall of famer and will not only give us an upgrade, but can help the younger guys on the line get better. The last time that we brought in a future hall of fame veteran O-Lineman, (don't make me mention his name again, Orlando Pace) It didn't go too well, but I will give it another shot especially when we're talking about Alan Faneca.
Wide Reciever: Let's face it: our recievers are a part of the fact that Jay Cutler hasn't been as productive with us as he was in Denver. The Devin Hester experiment at WR has been explosive at times, but not so good at others. Johnny Knox had a pretty good year, but he was inconsistent and not completely ready to play the #1 WR position. He can really benefit from playing the #2 WR position alongside a talented veteran WR. Earl Bennent is definetly our best in the slot. I think Hester should get a bit of a limited role in the recieving game. We should bring in one of the following to play the #1 WR position:
Terrell Owens(CIN): I dont care about his age-37 years- and i dont care about his nagging and off-field issues. Just look at his stats from last year as a 36 year-old: 72 receptions for 983 yards and 9 TDs in just 12 games! Can he be the answer?
Santonio Holmes(NYJ): Also has off-field issues. But he is fast, talented, and still fairly young.
Braylon Edwards(NYJ): It appeards unlikely that the Jets can keep both Edwards and Holmes with all the other free agents that they have. Although he is not as fast as Holmes, he is bigger and more fit to play the #1 WR position which he has played his entire career. Drops are a concern for him though
Mark Clayton(STL): Was having a breakout year with the Rams last year before a knee injury near mid-season ended his season.
Plaxico Burress(FA): Was a good reciever before he went to prison. He said he played and got better in jail playing with people that didn't know how to throw spirals. Multiple teams-including the Bears- are interested in signing him after seeing Michael Vick become an MVP-caliber player after being in prison. This is the guy that I think the bears should go after. He's tall and would fit well into our system.
Steve Smith(CAR): Reportedly on the trade block. A lot of writers say that he would be the perfect fit here in Chicago with Jay Cutler slinging passes to him even though he is 32 and dealt with injuries last year. But recent reports have said that Cam Newton has been pleading him to stay in Carolina and trade talks have died down. But why not try to make a package deal for him? He is the guy that I think we should try to acquire if we dont get anyone in free agency.
Randy Moss(TEN): Nah. I think he's just too risky and the Bears aren't really interested...
Cornerback: Charles Tillman is getting up in age and at this point in his career, it would be better for him to slide back to the #2 CB position. As much as I respect Tim Jennings, he's just too small. D.J. Moore is solid at the #3 position, but the Bears need something that they haven't had in a while: a shutdown corner. Here are some free agents that are pretty good examples of that:
Nnamdi Asomugha(OAK): Best FA available. Can the Bears make the free agent splash again?
Ike Taylor(PIT): Very underrated shutdown corner. He still has a few good seasons left at age 30.
Caros Rodgers(WAS): Shutdown corner that cant catch.
Other free agents to consider or re-sign:
Cullen Jenkins(GB): Our DE positions are set, but Jenkins is big enough(6-2, 305 pounds) and strong enough to play DT. He played DE in Green Bay because B.J. Raji played the NT position. We can bring him in to play DT next to Stephen Paea or Henry Melton. Plus, it would be nice to sign him just to make the Packers D weaker.
Daniel Manning(CHI): PLEASE re-sign him even if its just for special teams. Has developed into one of the best kick returners in the game. Why mess up our special teams unit?
Brad Maynard(CHI): Big part of our amazing special teams unit. One of the best-if not the best-at pinning opponents inside the 20. No good replacement in free agency.
Kawika Mitchell(NO): A good pass rushing LB.
Pisa Tinoisamoa(CHI): Re-sign him for another year? Had a good year in 2010, although injuries are still a major concern.
This is my opinion on free agents that the Bears should go after. You can voice your opinions by leaving a comment please.
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Alen Fanaca retired a while back ago
Carl Nicks would be my top target, and not only has he accumilated the 4 years to satisfy the supposed return of the 4 year rule but the Saints can’t afford him because they already have one of the top paid Guards in the game and they also signed Shaun Rogers before the lockout (very smart move btw) and have 2 first rounders that need to be signed.
Another name to look out for in Guards is Justin Blalock as Atlanta has to resign both guards and Im willing to bet if they are going to keep one of them its going to be Dahl. Justin Blalock is a young player who has gotten better each year he has played and like Carl Nicks is a perfect fit in our blocking schemes.
Speaking of names to look out for be aware that Vincent Jackson accumilated 4 years of service himself and he may be on his way out of San Diego (may being the key word).
Ike Taylor isn’t underated, hes overated. The Super Bowl exposed him and I don’t like the thought of “Touchdown on Ike Taylor” mentioned in the spoof of “Black and Yellow” apply named “Green and Yellow”. Carlos Rogers doesn’t have the best set of hands but again he knows how to cover someone and would be an ideal lower costing fit into our scheme.
Plus I wouldn’t rule out any D-Lineman when the time comes around. I would love to see either Cullen Jenkins and/or Ray Edwards picked up for a bargain.
My ideal FA would look like this:
LG Carl Nicks/Justin Blalock
WR Vincent Jackson
DT Cullen Jenkins (perfect fit as a 3T in our scheme)
DE Ray Edwards
CB Carlos Rogers (as much as I would love Nnamdi Ashomugha can we really afford him?)
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 19, 2011 1:03 PM CDT reply actions
@Erik Christpher Duerrwaechter
Sorry, didnt know that Alan Faneca retired, lol stupid mistake. I am one of those fans that was put to sleep by the lockout which is easy to be put to sleep when you are also a huge basketball fan and once football is finished, you turn your attention to the second half of the NBA season and the playoffs. You have a good list of ideal free agents, but Vincent Jackson was given the franchise tag by the Chargers which I found out just before publishing this with him on the list of WRs. As for CB, I know that it will be tough to get Asomugha. It will be tough to give him the money he deserves and almost every team in the NFL wants him as well, but no one expected the Bears to land Julius Peppers last year and look what happened. If we cant get Asomugha, My second option would be Ike Taylor and then Rodgers. The rest of your list is pretty agreeable for me.
by Diehard ChiTown Fan on Jun 19, 2011 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Its all good man
Got to give the helmet tip to Midway for that info on Faneca
I do understand Jackson was given a tag however he was given a tag when we were still playing by the 6 year rule, and when the new CBA comes around according to ESPN they most likely will return to the 4 year rule and Im suspecting since the tags were under the old CBA the tags would be thrown out.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 19, 2011 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the tip homie !
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jun 19, 2011 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup I thought it was necessary bro
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 19, 2011 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I swear you are the go to guy for info on FA O-Lineman!
Now you’re saying Brian Waters may be available!
Oh and I found out that another DE you may like might become available as Raheem Brock could be let go because of a rather stupid but relatively minor incident in a bar. He is one of the top pass rushers in this league and to see him paired with Peppers would be awesome!
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 19, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly , if given a choice , I'd go with Charles Johnson the DE from Carliona . Why ....
… you ask ?? Well here we go ….. He’d pair well with Peppers , hes a young guy who still has room to develope and he can produce double digit sacks without Peppers so imagine what he’d do with Peppers . Problem is he got an RFA tag . Now of the free agents I’d greatly prefer Cullen Jenkins due to his versatility and his knowledge of the Packers defense .
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jun 20, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Continue with the Panther's pipeline of their good players I see
Thats fine with me as long as we can nab their good Guard Geoff Schwartz in the process lol
I feel Cullen Jenkins would be a perfect fit as a 3T in our scheme and I think the Bears at one point before the draft made him the top FA target. Im not sure if thats still the case after drafting Paea but to see Jenkins line up next to Paea and having a pair of DEs in Peppers and Izzy/whomever we pick up would be an awesome sight to see.
With Charles I would welcome him in a heartbeat and again there is that chance of the NFL banning the practice of tags so we will see what happens.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 20, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Just a tid-bit
Johnson did play with Peppers, three years I think, and he never once got close to double digit sacks.
He played limited snaps with Pep ......
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jun 20, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I know that it will be tough to get Asomugha. It will be tough to give him the money he deserves and almost every team in the NFL wants him as well, but no one expected the Bears to land Julius Peppers last year and look what happened.
“Well, we splashed out on Peppers so that makes it more likely that we’ll spend biiiig in free agency again” is a fallacious argument, to my mind – quite the reverse, in fact. He’s pulling in $20 million a year.
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Right
I mean its like the old saying goes, lightning never strikes twice
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 20, 2011 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
If we get Braylon Edwards
I wouldn’t be mad.
'Don't believe in you who believe in me and don't believe in me who believes in you, but believe in you who believe in yourself'
I would be.
I never want the Droppapotamus on this team. He caught passes in a system that uses the pass as an extension of the run. He never caught passes in systems that actually tried to, y’know, PASS the football.
Edwards is not a good player. Not at the money he’ll command. Pass.
Agreed. Holmes missed 4 games and yet still managed to outplay Edwards and the way I see it, if Braylon Edwards was such a great receiver then why aren't the Jets focusing on signing him?
by frenchbears113 on Jun 20, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
What is really interesting is the Jets may be fixated on adding Plaxico Burress
So Braylon Edwards may be out of the picture with the Jets.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 20, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
But look at what he did last year and compare that with what we need
We dont need a Vincent Jackson type super-star/contract guy. We need a solid 3rd receiver who can go up and get jump balls, and who can take some pressure away from Johnny Knox and Earl Bennet. Like him or not, Braylon can do those things. Dont get me wrong I dont think he is worth huge money but I do think he is worth a look if his price isnt to high.
Plus dont forget that he has the speed to stretch the field and has yet to play with a decent QB and or offense in his career. And to answer your question the JETS arent focusing on him because they dont want to pay him and Santonio and they know (just like all of us) that Santonio is the better receiver.
by IndyBearsFan88 on Jun 20, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
@Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter
Sorry, didnt know that Alan Faneca retired, lol stupid mistake. I am one of those fans that was put to sleep by the lockout which is easy to be put to sleep when you are also a huge basketball fan and once football is finished, you turn your attention to the second half of the NBA season and the playoffs. You have a good list of ideal free agents, but Vincent Jackson was given the franchise tag by the Chargers which I found out just before publishing this with him on the list of WRs. As for CB, I know that it will be tough to get Asomugha. It will be tough to give him the money he deserves and almost every team in the NFL wants him as well, but no one expected the Bears to land Julius Peppers last year and look what happened. If we cant get Asomugha, My second option would be Ike Taylor and then Rodgers. The rest of your list is pretty agreeable for me.
by Diehard ChiTown Fan on Jun 19, 2011 7:00 PM CDT reply actions
Since you posted twice I will now answer your second set of questions
Yes I wouldn’t doubt the Bears in regards to being able to bring in Asomugha especially since rumor has it he will only sign with a winning team and may be willing to negotiate his price lower if the team has a legit shot at the Super Bowl (like us) but I also am not sure if we can afford him and the other 4 players I listed if all become available.
Now if Jackson and Nicks under the new CBA are still unavailable then perhaps we can sign Asomugha and a few other FAs to fill the other needs. Another list (plan B) would be:
LG Justin Blalock
WR Chad Ochocinco Johnson (he will be available eventually)
DT Cullen Jenkins
DE Ray Edwards
CB Nnamdi Asomugha
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 19, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure
Franchise tag would still work for Jackson, because a Franchise tag can be offered to any player, not just a restricted free agent, as in the case of a tender.
LINK
Ouch nevermind about that lol!
Thank you for that info as I had no clue about that!! Hmm…I guess we will have to see how the new CBA is set up then.
Speaking about a new CBA I wonder if it will include the right for a player who had accumilated enough years to be a FA to back out of a current deal like that of the NBA and MLB. If so then a player who has accumilated the supposed 4 years necessary to become a FA can back out of a deal and become a FA, and not only has Jackson accumilated that but a player who I just discovered has not signed an extension to their pre existing deal is non other than Calvin Johnson, who has played 4 years in the league as well as not signing an extension with the Lions. Now he still has 2 years left on his current contract so even I am not optimistic something that dramatic would happen. But if the new CBA were to set that up, then how about Calvin Johnson?!
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 19, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, there's still a chance of getting VJ
There’s a chance that the new CBA might ban tags altogether, so it’s not impossible.
On Calvin Johnson: I just don’t see a rule like that coming to be. I haven’t heard about it being an issue even being discussed. So I personally just don’t see it happening that way. Also, Calvin has said that he would stay in Detroit if they starting winning, and the Detroit franchise is looking to be on the upswing. If they don’t start winning, then maybe we could make a run for him in 2013 in free agency. However, I don’t see Calvin Johnson and the Bears together in the near future.
Yet Vincent Jackson would be more of an upgrade into our WR corps
Sometimes with minor character issues if you play your cards right they will bring to your team a serious upgrade and a ton of firepower that can propel an Offense to soaring levels.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 29, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Also...
Even if the Franchise tag allows San Diego to retain Vincent Jackson, it is very possible that they could be looking to trade him. He could possibly be attained with a second round pick, and maybe another late round pick. I wouldn’t think the Bears would even give up that much to improve what they see to be a very capable receiving corps, but if the price is anymore than that, even I would say that the Bears should look elsewhere.
All are strong points
And I too wouldn’t count Jackson out just yet cause we both know it all depends on the new CBA as well as the fact on who the Chargers target in FA. I keep reading items stating the Chargers have a good amount of interest in Steve Smith and when the time comes to re-sign Malcom Floyd he will not be cheap so we may see the Chargers allowing Jackson to leave for FA.
As for Calvin Johnson well…it was worth a shot lol
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 20, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
A good solid list but...
Do you really think that Chad Ochocinco would be a good fit in Chicago? He isnt his best anymore and he nags more than any reciever I have seen. The rest of your list looks good to me. At WR though, I would consider any of the players I listed in this post over Ochocinco(even Randy Moss). I think either Burress or Smith would be the best fit for DaBears
by Diehard ChiTown Fan on Jun 20, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Again this supportive stance I have on Chad is relatively new
He isn’t the best but he certainly is better than a good number of WRs in the NFL and again he didn’t have the most consistant QB in the NFL. And despite that in his 10 years in the NFL he averages over 1,000 yards a season and I don’t know too many WRs that are available right now that can do that.
Plus he has been annoying but he has calmed down recently and I feel all those actions come in direct response to his unhappiness with the Bengals organization. And well for whatever reason Jay Cutler has been calling Chad about something where Chad seem open to Jay Cutler as a person. Matter of fact I’m not sure but I think Chad was supportive of Jay Cutler when the whole NFCCG controversy came to play. If I have a new feeling about Chad Johnson its that he wants to get out of Cincy and come onto a winning team with a good supporting cast, which is what Chicago has.
Btw did you seriously put Randy Moss over Chad Ochocinco Johnson right after you said that 8 5 was “nagging”?! Randy Moss without a doubt is the biggest prima donna in the NFL. Also Burress is not I repeat NOT a fit with the Bears; as with him I feel Olsen is a better target than Plax at this point and time. Steve Smith would be nice but Carolina will not let him go for nothing and may ask for a higher than wanted price. Plus I feel we need to add a larger option to our offense and although Chad isnt the biggest he is no where near the smallest.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 20, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
And well for whatever reason Jay Cutler has been calling Chad about something
He didn’t. Ochicinco said on Waddle & Silvy on Friday that he made that up ’cos he wants to catch a pass from all 32 QBs in the league during the lockout, or something like that.
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Talk about a complete shocker! Like is he joking?!
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 20, 2011 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
He is a solid route runner and experienced wr
who has good hands. Not ideal size, but i’ll take him at the right price, Could be duplicating Bennett though..
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Chad Ochocinco is taller than Bennett at 6'1
And again he is a good all round WR. He would be a good fit talent wise.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 23, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Like I have said before
Nnamdi Asomugha will be wearing our colors next year…….and I love the Chad Ocho Johnson addition, he would move coverage to his side and free up alot of room for the rest of our WR corp.
by l3ig_lvlike_430 on Jun 20, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
No need for him in the cover 2 scheme
especially with the amount of payroll he would consume.
We are serving up Carimi Pancakes!!
There is always a need
if you can get a guy that will shut down his entire side of the field I say go for it, It instantly makes our defense best in the league with the front 7 we will have.
by l3ig_lvlike_430 on Jun 23, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Problem with Asomugha is
There will be a salary cap (size still pending) and we really need to find a good LG which might take a good amount of cash to be able to do. Our offense in general needs the big money and we can find a rather good CB in FA.
If you really want a great coverage guy then may I recommend Brandon Carr. Although in the new CBA he may not have enough experiance to void his tender, we could easily surrender a 1st rounder (if needed) or we could wait and see what Pioli would accept in offers. He has been known to pursue high level FAs on occasion and also depart with solid players if he can find an upgrade. He also likes to stock on future draft picks and we could offer say a 2nd and a 4th as well as a conditional 2013 pick. Back to the 1st rounder (if needed) I feel at some point we will have to draft an eventual heir to Tillman and Brandon Carr would be a perfect match for the Bears.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 23, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I personally don't see the Bears signing any free agent WR this year
Unless someone like Vincent Jackson, Sidney Rice, or Santonio Holmes fall into our laps.
This is based on the Bears’ history of not signing free agent receivers, other needs such as OG, and simply the fact that there are not many FA that would fit the scheme and “Character” tradition the Bears have and also provide a significant improvement to our receiving corps.
If they do end up signing a FA receiver, I see them signing a more realistic and not as expensive WR. Some possible receivers that I could see in the Bears uniform next year would be James Jones, Santana Moss, or, the most realistic big receiver I can think of in Free agency this year, T.J. Houshmandzadeh (He’s an exceptional route runner, a trait which usually is lacking in bigger receivers, which is key to the Martz offense).
Its rather interesting you brought up T.J. Houshmandzadeh
The Bears didn’t show any interest in him the last time he was available, and after his recent performances I don’t see why the Bears would still have any interest. He doesn’t have a good amount of speed and in this offense you must have some type of speed to be a fit.
A WR I feel could be realistic that was not mentioned is Chad Ochocinco Johnson, its obvious that there is a strong chance the Bengals are planning on getting rid of him and for whatever reason it was apparantly Jay Cutler has been calling him. Imo I feel in their time at Cincy Chad was the best WR on that team and he would be a great fit in our offense.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 20, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
he would be a great fit in our offense
Just listening to Tom Waddle talking about this – he’s not a disciplined route runner (one of Carson Palmer’s reasons for refusing to return to the Bengals is having to deal with guys who freestyle their routes). I also read in a recent analysis of (potential) FA WRs that, at this stage of his career, Ochocinco refuses to go across the middle.
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I swear that sounds more like T.O. than it does Chad
I remember Chad bravely going across the middle when Ray Lewis is sitting right in the middle waiting to know him out and Chad still made the effort. But I will admit that does put a damper on hopes for the guy.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 20, 2011 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I have seen a lot of bengal games on the ticket
and he absolutely goes over the middle.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jun 23, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
If there is one thing to respect about him
Its his bravery. I can’t imagine how many WRs think of an early retirement when they have to cross in front of Ray Lewis.
Its T.O. thats afraid of going over the middle.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 23, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Nnamdi Asomugha is not gonna be a Bear next season
Its just not gonna happen. Thats like buying a Lamborghini and then taking it off-roading.
He’s gonna command top dollar as a shutdown corner. Like it or not the Cover-2 doesnt need top of the line man-coverage corners, it needs corners that are jack of all trades. Alittle bit man and zone coverage, some ball skills but probable most important they need to be able to tackle. Zach Bowman probably lost his starting spot because of missed tackles. Tillman twice has 93 tackles in a season. 93! There’s linebackers that never get close to that and Tillman’s done it twice.
Look, I’m not saying Asomugha isnt good. I think he’s probably the best or 2nd best in the league. But we’d be overpaying for a guy that just doesnt fit our scheme. We’d have to change the whole defence or ask him to not use the skills that makes him so good.
I agree with the overpaying part, but.....
Asomugha is not just a man-coverage corner. He’s the best jack-of-all-trades in the game. He has a high tackle rate when he gets the opportunity (over 50% in the last three years, which is fantastic for a corner), he plays the zone extremely well, and he isn’t afraid of getting physical at the line or fighting for the ball.
He is Charles Tillman on PCP. A true beast at the position, and he wouldn’t be wasted here any more than he would be anywhere else. He is one of the rare players that is so talented in so many areas that he is applicable to almost any scheme. The most statistical research I do into the guy the more I am astounded by his abilities.
But I don’t see the Bears spending the kind of money on him that he will command even at the “contenders discount” when they can more thasn get by with an Ike Taylor or Carlos Rogers. Asomugha wouldn’t be wasted here, but because of the scheme, the dropoff isn’t as great from 1st to second tier corner as it is from first to second tier DT or MLB.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 20, 2011 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 20, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Good point
He is highly skilled in anything you could ask a CB to do. And I didnt mean to say he wasnt.
But I think everyone would agree his most impressive skill is the ability to take away the other teams best WR. He’s one of two, maybe three shutdown corners in the game. On 3rd-n-long would you rather he cover WR Cavin Johnson like a glove or some TE that comes into his zone? If we sign him and his not Greg Jennings’ shadow all game long then its a waste. I just dont see any team that plays a high percentage of Cover-2 (CHI, CIN, TB, IND) signing him than asking him to not do what he does best.
Another reason you already bought up, the cost. Cover-2 teams would rather spend big money on the front 4 then a shutdown corner and in-turn spend less on their corners. Like those you mentioned. Personally I’m hoping Bowman steps up.
Well we certainly didn't expect the Bears to nab Jay Cutler AND Julius Peppers in back to back offseasons
And George McCaskey was quoted in saying he wants the Bears to “Win Now” so he may be signaling to Jerry that a FA shopping spree is not only permitted, its a necessity. Now am I saying the Bears will sign Asomugha? No especially when 3/4 of the league wants him so I’m not sure how the Bears can pull off another shocker like they did last season. But with the Bears organization we can’t take anything for granted anymore as they no longer seem to be interested in returning to their frugal ways.
What I will agree with is the fact the Bears should be targeting bigger needs as CB is not nearly as big of a need as signing a starting interior O-Lineman or two as well as building depth at LB (we only have 2 under contract) and perhaps adding more firepower to the WR corps. Adding competition to CB is also important but not nearly as important as the other needs stated.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 20, 2011 9:45 AM CDT reply actions
Agreed they are bigger needs
Way I see it.
Sign Guard!
Sign Guard!
Sign Guard!
Resign our guys (A. Adams, O. Kreutz, etc)
Especially Adams.
Adams doesn’t get the love he deserves. Adams is the most underrated DT in the league, IMO. THe Bears ranked first in ajusted line yardage allowed in the middle according to football outsiders.and Anthony Adams is the biggest single reason for that. Resigning Adams, Kruetz and Danieal Manning should be high priorities.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 20, 2011 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't forget about Nick Roach and/or Pisa Tinoisamoa
We need to make sure our remaining LB corps is as strong as possible
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 20, 2011 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Resigning our guys could be more important than bring in new talent
Dont remember where I read it, but 1 of GB guards agreed with you Timothy about Adams and said the said thing “underrated”.
As for Kreutz, I dont think we have anyone able to fill his cleats on the roster and I dont know if there’s any good FA centers available. For what its worth, he was still in the top 10 for pass blocking according to profootballfocus last year, and tops their 3 yr study.
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/06/14/2010-pass-blocking-efficiency-guards-and-centers/
I also think D. Manning has finally found a home at SS (might be his 2nd or 3rd time there but hopefully he stays). It can be hard to tell sometimes with safetys, but I dont remember seeing any long bombs go over his head.
And we do need LB’s, I like how Tinoisamoa hits but the knee scares me alittle.
Best part is other then D. Manning, I dont think these guys are gonna ask for a ton of cash. Which hopefully leaves us enough to pick up a bigtime FA.
by mooseknucks on Jun 21, 2011 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Well with the money saved up from cutting Shaffer and Tommie Harris as well as restructuring Peppers's contract
Combined with statements from Jerry Angelo as well as Ted Phillips saying the Bears will be players in FA, topped off with George McCaskey who is now the Chairman of the Board for the Bears organization saying he wants the Bears to “win now”, I feel that is the plan for FA: to retain our best players in addition to adding big time help to the team probably at either or both Guard positions and perhaps WR.
After thinking about this for a while I think retaining Daniel Manning would really help the Secondary and Anthony Adams was a key player for the Bears’ D-Line so his return would also be tremendous for us.
And we can forget about Olin Kreutz, he has been our best O-Lineman for many years now and we need to keep him until a true heir is found and developed.
As for Pisa Tinoisamoa and LBs in general Pisa stayed healthy for the majority of last year but we also have to retain Roach as he can be one hell of a LB for us in the near future. And I am rather excited for J.T. Thomas as I feel he can be a Briggs clone at the Sam position.
Overall our offseason is key for us and we already made some good moves in the draft so we need to continue to make strong and bold moves for us to get to the promised land this year. When completed our offseason should look like this (adding the moves already made)
Moves already made:
Aquire a good LT: Gabe Carimi
Beef up interior D-Line: Stephan Paea
Add a prospect into the WR corps: Andy Fantuz
Moves that need to be made:
Sign a starting LG
Retain our best players
Add more firepower to WR corps
Add more competition and talent at CB
Re-sign Matt Forte (he needs a new contract)
Re-sign Greg Olsen
Continue looking for good special teams prospects
If we can accomplish all of those then our team will be a contender this year.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 21, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
Especially on Forte and Olsen contracts, but I agree with all of it.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 22, 2011 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd rather see the Bears make a play at James Anderson from Carolina than to re-sign Pisa.
Anderson is a beast at the Strong side in nearly the way that Briggs is a beast on the weak side. But resigning Pisa and Nick would be ok, too.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 22, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Center....
The only one that I really like is AZs Lyle Sendlein, who is a warrior. I wouldn’t mind seeing the Bears go after him.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jun 22, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Nice List
But I would include:
Santana Moss
MSW
Jonathon Joseph
I really like that you threw Robert Gallery in there, I think he would be a great match with Tice and a very solid upgrade on our line. I think having two veteran guards is critical to the development of our two young tackles.
I like 1 of those names on your list in Santana Moss
MSW could work but after reading on him for a while I’ve backed off from him a little bit because he has been inconsistant and I’m rather concerned in the sheer amount of differances between our offense and the Jags offense.
Jonathon Joseph to me is Vasher 2.0 as he possesses great play-making ability but can not stay healthy.
As for Robert Gallery he is asking for a higher price than his actual value imo.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 20, 2011 1:03 PM CDT reply actions
I think part of MSW's problems have to do with his situation
He plays with a QB that is very inconsistent, he plays on an offense that is predicated on the run. And to me the biggest reason he hasnt developed is that in addition to those last two reasons he hasnt had a reliable receiving threat opposite of him (kinda sounds like Johnny Knox in that respect). Torry Holt in 09 was the closest he came to that and he had led the team in receiving that year. You bring up a good point about the offense, but provided there is a full training camp I think he could pick up enough of the offense to be a solid contributor.
And as for Gallery you could be right. But dont forget that just because he wants a contract worth 8.8 mil. a year (link) doesnt mean he’s gonna get it. That will be especially true if the 4/5 year rule and no franchise tag rules are applied to Free agents. That would mean that some elite prospects like Justin Blalock, Carl Nicks and Davin Joseph would be on the market as well, which would in turn bring down Gallery’s value.
by IndyBearsFan88 on Jun 20, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Whoops, forgot the link
here it is: (LINK)
by IndyBearsFan88 on Jun 20, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I want Randy Moss
because of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dmqGg6Ccvw
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
I like that, but Randy Moss is washed up
Plus nobody outside of Belicheck can deal with him
by IndyBearsFan88 on Jun 20, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
These guys look interesting :
36. Justin Blalock, G, Atlanta Falcons
3. Johnathan Joseph, CB, Cincinnati Bengals
8. Brandon Mebane, DT Seahawks
39. Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, New York Giants
12. Jared Gaither, T, Baltimore Ravens
13. Marshal Yanda, T, Baltimore Ravens
14. Doug Free, T, Dallas Cowboys
15. Paul Posluszny, LB, Buffalo Bills
16. Antonio Cromartie, CB, New York Jets
20. Jammal Brown, T, Washington Redskins
21. Jason Babin, DE, Tennessee Titans
24. Barry Cofield, DT, New York Giants
25. Brent Grimes, CB, Atlanta Falcons
Malcom Floyd or Brandon Marshall are key though ….
I doubt Brandon Marshall will hit the market
The ‘Phins don’t seem that they wan’t to let him go anymore realizing how much money is tied up with him as well as providing whomever their starting QB is with the best players possible.
I like Blalock as well as a few other guys, but I think we should hold off on OTs as we did just invest a 1st rounder into Gabe Carimi and Webb does show potential as well as ensuring at least some continuinity will be on the O-LIne. I feel those two will be our LT and RT, respectively. Plus with Blalock again I like him but I will also raise you 1 Carl Nicks.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jun 29, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Your up top talking about Chad Johnson's mouth but you would be interested in Brandon Marshal?
I’m not a Chad Johnson fan, but I would take him any day of the week over that childish douche Brandon Marshal.
by IndyBearsFan88 on Jun 30, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions

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