Poll of the Day: Will the Lions have a winning record?
The Detroit Lions have had some real good drafts since getting rid of Matt Millen. They've assembled some talented young players, and their team looks poised to have a breakout season. Or so many experts think. What do you think? Will the Lions have their first winning season since 2000?
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The correct answer is "no".
It is impossible to have a winning season when no games have been played in said season.
is this a riddle?
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 8, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
If you were to ask me if the New England Patriots will have a winning season this year...
I would give the exact same answer. NO. They would have a 0-0 season.
Unfortunately, I am now firmly in the camp of there will not be an NFL season next year. Not a game. Not until Fall 2012. Neither side will allow it to happen.
If there isn't a season in 2011 their record wouldn't be 0-0, it would be nothing.
Non existent… Nil… Nada… perhaps even incomplete?
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 8, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll believe it,
when I see it. The Cubs of the NFL. What can go wrong, will go wrong for the Lions.
I meannn...
Assuming we have a full, 16-game season…
They went 6-10 last year. A winning record would mean 3 more wins this year in a schedule that includes two games against the Super Bowl champ Packers and two games against NFC NORTH DIVISION CHAMP CHICAGO BEARS, as well as games against playoff teams like New Orleans, Atlanta, and Kansas City.
The answer: Nope. 8-8 MAYBE at best. I’m thinking more like 6-10 or 7-7 with 3rd place finish in the division.
BEAR DOWN!
by Fast Willie Gault on Jun 8, 2011 12:16 PM CDT reply actions
Remember this
Bears were given a win by the officials in week 1 and that was the game that WON you guys the division. . .We beat the Packers at home last year without our starter, and we almost beat the Pack on the road and all those game were with our back-up QB. . .
How many lumps you want Doc?
by davis0169 on Jun 8, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Should be flagged.
Under “ONNTSA” protocols.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jun 8, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Even Ditka said we won that game
Hey thats why we play the games. Yes even the Lions fall under any given sunday now. I expect the only NFC north team with a losing record to be the Vikings this year. Someone will finish 8-8 two others GB being one will have a winning record.
"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." Mario Andretti
PCP 4 LIFE
So who got the " W " again ?? Calvin's gotta learn to complete things .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jun 8, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I see 3 teams having a better than .500 record. . .
I really do. for all my hating on Cutler, he will be in Martz System for 2 years and should have a better grasp on what him and his WR’s are suppose to do, and the Bears D is just that the Bears D one of the better D’s in the league that alone will get you a few wins. The Packers have Rogers and that wide open offense and they are going to be better on defense with another year under their belts in that 3-4, and the Lions (if Staff stays healthy) will win more games than anyone thought they would. . .Say what you all want but he won the only games he completed last year and was leading every game he started referring to the Bears and Jets games. 3 teams that are going to make the NFC South look silly this year and screw the EAST! they are all OVERRATED!
How many lumps you want Doc?
The very same guy you used in your name
said it was not only a catch but also added it was embarrassing to the league that it was ruled a non catch.
Just saying.
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I am happy to call it a catch
As long as it’s recognized he threw it away prematurely, ergo losing the “catch” call.
Hold onto it for a second more, and there is zero issue.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jun 8, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
should football be decided by such arbitrary distinctions?
it passed the eyeball test. Hell, I live in Chicago now and I had fans of the Bears coming up to me and telling me it was a catch.
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"It’s modern-day slavery, you know?" Adrian Peterson (AKA, The $11 million dollar slave)
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Okay, then when a ball rolls on Earl Bennett's chest until it's called a catch
to win a game, I’ll be more than happy to hear your complaints then.
You know what, yes, it should be decided by arbitrary distinctions sometimes (not really arbitrary, cause a rule’s a rule). Or, he could have made the whole thing a non-issue and hung onto it (I’d prefer this option, wouldn’t you?).
He threw the catch away. That is all.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jun 8, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
he slammed the ball on the ground and stood up
After catching the ball with both hands, passing it to one hand, then passing it to the other hand before slamming it to the ground. All the while falling to the ground.
If that is not completing the process, I do not know what is. Sadly, everyone in the league not in the rules committee, including a hall of fame coach of your very own team thinks it was a terrible call and even more rotten rule.
Your team was gifted a win. That is all.
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"It’s modern-day slavery, you know?" Adrian Peterson (AKA, The $11 million dollar slave)
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Gifted a win by a player who couldn't restrain himself from celebrating.
If you’re blaming anyone, blame it on your receiver. I’m not denying we lose if that’s the catch it should have been.
I’m done with this, because it seems your only point of contention is the number that ended up in the loss column. They aren’t changing that.
Next time, I’m listening to my own “Oh No, Not This S*** Again” protocol.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jun 8, 2011 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
God forbid he celebrates like every other player who scores an obvious TD in the league.
Not everyone can be Barry Sanders and his eternally classy handing of the ball to the Ref on the way to the sideline.
Honestly, I do not care about the win or loss anymore. The rule and the resultant decision by the rules committee to not change said rule leaves me dry heaving. Compound that with everyone with a working set of eyes, who can be objective, coming out saying it was a catch and TD and I always get heart burn thinking about it.
I love the game of football. Have since I was a kid and even back then I would have been able to tell you it was a catch. It is a rule that is not good for the game of football.
I like Wins, Cheese and I also Like Cookies. If you don't. Wow. :P
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"It’s modern-day slavery, you know?" Adrian Peterson (AKA, The $11 million dollar slave)
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I don't mind celebrating after the play.
If he stands up with it, I don’t care if he does Ocho’s Irish jig while fake-dropping his drawers and signing the ball, he earned the TD.
That’s all he had to do.
Stand. Up. Holding the ball. TD Lions, game over, shame Bears.
If anything, I’d bet it was called because he was still on his arse when he spiked it and I suppose it could have looked like the play was still in progress – after all, don’t celebrate until the play’s over. I mean, I suppose someone could have wandered over and slapped it out of his hand, incomplete.
Look, I agree it was a catch… All he has to do to render the whole thing moot is stand up.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jun 8, 2011 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
You are taught since high school too
to stand up with the ball.
'Don't believe in you who believe in me and don't believe in me who believes in you, but believe in you who believe in yourself'
Honestly, I do not care about the win or loss anymore.
Well, no more so than any other Lions fan who comes here to whine about it oh so many months on…..
Cosmis: JESUS LORD IN HEAVEN DANIEAL MANNING JUST KILLED A MAN
If it wasn't a catch
Then why did the league feel that it had to change the rule after last season. . So that the exact same play this year is now a TD….. We got screwed and you guys benefited from it that’s all. . I didn’t realize I was going to start such a big issue with 1 little comment but I do have that kind of personality. . .
How many lumps you want Doc?
If it wasn’t a catch
Then why did the league feel that it had to change the rule after last season
The rule wasn’t changed.
March 15, 2011 completely refutes your statement.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jun 8, 2011 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 9, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
My birthday refutes his statement!?
My birthday ROCKS!!
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
Your birthday refuted his statement.
Your birthday told all the other calendar days to get in line.
Your birthday inspires people to make plans for your birthday.
You have… The most interesting birthday in the world.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jun 10, 2011 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions
who is whining?
I did not even start this line of conversation but I will be damned if I am going to sit here and not comment.
How about you stop whining about people having conversations. Since that is all that is happening.
Did I touch on a sensitive subject? You know it was a catch and TD too.
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"It’s modern-day slavery, you know?" Adrian Peterson (AKA, The $11 million dollar slave)
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OK Joshsun . . .
Take a breath brother. . .Think DET32 and Ayers . . . .Need I say more?
How many lumps you want Doc?
lmao
This lockout is killing me!
I like Wins, Cheese and I also Like Cookies. If you don't. Wow. :P
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"It’s modern-day slavery, you know?" Adrian Peterson (AKA, The $11 million dollar slave)
Help Stop real slavery!
I think what he means is Lion fan's appear to have a hard time letting this go even when they say they don't care about it anymore.
And it wasn’t a catch. If it was then the Bears would have lost a game they dominated statistically and that would have been a tragedy. Good thing the right team won.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
such is the nature of stats
They almost never tell the whole story and often outright lie.
Teams that dominate the stats lose all the time.
I like Wins, Cheese and I also Like Cookies. If you don't. Wow. :P
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"It’s modern-day slavery, you know?" Adrian Peterson (AKA, The $11 million dollar slave)
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Rephrase.
It was a catch, until he decided to throw it away before he completed the process.
And come on people, FLAGGED, not rec’d!
Know your ONNTSA protocols! >_<
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by Steven Schweickert on Jun 8, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Why are we still discussing this?
It doesn’t matter, the record books say it was a win, period.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
Personally, I like to discuss issues I think are bad for football.
That particular rule is bad for football. I don’t think its even possible for me to care any less about who got the win. You’re right, its over. However, its still a bad rule and its near the top of my list of items I feel the NFL should address. I’m a fan of the forward pass and I hate any rule that limits its effectiveness.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011
I don't have a problem discussing a bad rule.
I have a problem with the statement, you didn’t really win that game we did. So if we want to discuss the rule itself and not go the other route that’s fine. I actually think the rule the way it’s written is terrible, but it was enforced properly.
When the world slips you a Jeffrey, stroke a furry wall.
- Aldous Snow
I begrudgingly agree
I hate the fact that I can’t find fault with the way it was enforced. I’m way over it though. The only reason I’m still upset about the rule is that the competition committee refuses to change what I think most people can probably agree is a bad rule. I personally feel like the won’t look at it because they’re afraid the fans will view it as them admitting it was called wrong.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011
Just smile and nod.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jun 8, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the Lions will have a breakout season
However, it will be as an 8-8 team and their first non-losing season in quite a while. It’ll start off well, then Stafford will get injured for four or so games and they lose all of them, then try to finish the season in a flurry but get rolled by divisional opponents that can pick apart their back 7.
Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent - Salvor Hardin
This was exactly what I was going to post...
8-8 will be it this year, until they can shore up their secondary and fix a leaky OL. Stafford is also going to have to play careful and smart as to not get hurt again. Personally, I really like Stafford and his ability, but he has to stay on the field. This year will be an improvement, but not a winning season, yet.
by I Have Bearsititis on Jun 8, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe in 2012.
Because there isn’t going to be a season in 2011, I’m afraid. I’m sure my wife will be happy.
The better question would be if the Bears will have a winning record
Cutler’s knee says no.
Yooperlionfan is officially "the man"
the Lions D-Line: the Four Horsemen of the A-sack-alypse
Jim Schwart: Erasing the stink of Millen, one fist pump at a time.
P.C.P: It is not just for recreation anymore.
What's wrong with his knee?
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 8, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Beats us????
Wasn’t it his Knee that kept him from coming back in that playoff game against the Packers? I am not trying to start anything just saying I thought that his knee was what kept him from returning to the game. And as a casual fan but follower of all things football related all I’ve heard about Jay is that he has 1 hell of a fine Woman.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Old news...
The knee was a 2 to 4 week recovery with no surgery required. Unlike a certain QB of a certain team up in Detroit…
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 8, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
If he has the same recovery that Bradford had. . .
Then look out because it will be a war between the division teams again. . .like in the 90’s when we had #20.
How many lumps you want Doc?
The North has a good chance to be the best in football this next season
I just hope a team or two can come out of it with enough healthy bodies to compete in the playoffs.
I like Wins, Cheese and I also Like Cookies. If you don't. Wow. :P
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"It’s modern-day slavery, you know?" Adrian Peterson (AKA, The $11 million dollar slave)
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I voted yes and as I Lions fan, what else was I supposed to vote?
The Packers are going to be their usual self next season. 11 to 12 wins. They had mass injuries and still had an amazing season.
The Vikings are going to continue to wallow in the basement. I love saying that. It just feels good.
The Bears are going to slip from last season, there is no way in hell they stay healthy two seasons in a row. It is a near impossibility in one season, let alone two. Last season was a blessed season and one that will not be duplicated.
I like Wins, Cheese and I also Like Cookies. If you don't. Wow. :P
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"It’s modern-day slavery, you know?" Adrian Peterson (AKA, The $11 million dollar slave)
Help Stop real slavery!
I think they'll have a winning record too
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 8, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you have to go with the paper bag fan?
ouch…. lol
I like Wins, Cheese and I also Like Cookies. If you don't. Wow. :P
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"It’s modern-day slavery, you know?" Adrian Peterson (AKA, The $11 million dollar slave)
Help Stop real slavery!
i know joshsun . . . That paper bag is another reason to hate MILLEN to the bone.
How many lumps you want Doc?
WTF?
He who shall not be named. Even on the Bears site!
Shame on you! For shame……
I like Wins, Cheese and I also Like Cookies. If you don't. Wow. :P
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"It’s modern-day slavery, you know?" Adrian Peterson (AKA, The $11 million dollar slave)
Help Stop real slavery!
In fairness he's not a bad color commentator
I always thought he had pretty good insight when commentating Michigan games
by IndyBearsFan88 on Jun 8, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 8, 2011 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
fair enough
I like Wins, Cheese and I also Like Cookies. If you don't. Wow. :P
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"It’s modern-day slavery, you know?" Adrian Peterson (AKA, The $11 million dollar slave)
Help Stop real slavery!
NO
8-8
'Don't believe in you who believe in me and don't believe in me who believes in you, but believe in you who believe in yourself'
I shall once again reiterate my comments on this matter from another thread.
For several years now I have thought the Lions would step up and surprise everyone. For several years now……
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
So have we Dave . . .So have we. . .
Thank god our new regime has cleared out 95% of Millen and Merinelli’s horrible draft picks and we actually have some talent on our team now. . .This year will be VERY entertaining for all of our fans Except those poor poor Favreless Vikings fans. . . .I know they are all hoping for a trade for McNabb or a different Veteran Qb so that Ponder don’t have to get creamed by the Lions front 4 the Packers mid 4 or the Bear front 7. . . I really feel sorry for Ponder if he has to start for the Vikes this year. . . I can see SUH and KVB from the Lions, Peppers and Urlacher from the Bears and the LB’s from the Packers licking their chops waiting to get some free runs on that poor poor boy.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Hey since there are so many of you Bears fans on right now . . .
Come over and vote on your favorite 5 QB’s of all time and make my series really go strong as a NFC North topic, not just us Lions and Packers fans poll.
How many lumps you want Doc?
They are an improved team for sure, but the health of Stafford is what should really worry the lions, if that guy could stay on the field, he could show why he’s a top pick, but he hasn’t been able to do that yet.
Why do all my socks smell like feet?
by touchdown bears on Jun 9, 2011 12:01 PM CDT reply actions
We're hoping this year is going to be the year.
From pictures I’ve seen, he’s looking pretty beefed up. I’m hoping that’ll be enough to keep his shoulder from exploding this year.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011

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