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Chicago Bears Free Agency Frenzy - Overflow Open Thread

CHICAGO IL - DECEMBER 26: Brad Smith #16 of the New York Jets misplays the ball on a kick-off against the Chicago Bears at Soldier Field on December 26 2010 in Chicago Illinois. (Photo by Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images)

The free agency news is flying quickly and furiously today.  Let us be the must visit spot for all the rumors, facts, scenarios, and what ever else you want to talk about.  If you need to play catch up, the 1st open thread with some tidbits of info can be found here.

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Yay

the old thread was starting to kill this crappy work PC…

by Virto on Jul 27, 2011 1:55 PM CDT reply actions  

MSW FTW

Superman wears an Urlacher Jersey under his costume

by BearNecessities on Jul 27, 2011 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

My only concern

is why so many people who have always been in the “Bears need a #1 WHARRRGARBL” are suddenly clamoring for an, at best, #2 receiver.

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by Kev H on Jul 27, 2011 2:07 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

hes a young, cheap WR

what do we have to lose by signing him. but i agree at best a number 2

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by dabears85 on Jul 27, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's the crazy part

of the “need a WR” debate – our 2-3-4 guys (Bennett, Knox, Hester, pick your order) are solid, but a true #1 is needed. I like MSW, but don’t see a mammoth improvement from the team with him – would still like him if it means our UDFA’s and Oops Davis aren’t apart of the passing game.

If its free, take two.

by T.J. Shouse on Jul 27, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

But has he had the same opportunities as other #1 WRs?

Being a #1 WR on a running team is like being the tallest midget, and top that off with the facts in Garrard being his QB as opposed to Manning or Shaub (top QBs in AFC South) and the fact he hasn’t been featured in an offense that highlights his abilities can be why he isn’t such a glamorous option.

He isn’t Sidney Rice, he isn’t Santonio Holmes, he isn’t Braylon Edwards, but he is a respectable WR who comes in as an ideal compromise player that will add size without being as big of a risk to compromise your offense. He is big and fast, something Burress, Rice and R Moss aren’t. He has a chip on his shoulders. He will allow the Bears to be even more flexible in FA and he is a sleeper IMO as with the ideal environment he can explode onto the scene.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

plus hes young and cheap

why not take a chance

@Sletizia7.... follow me

by dabears85 on Jul 27, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

#1 ability?

Where?

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by Kev H on Jul 27, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right here.

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Jul 27, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you grabbing your crotch as you say that?

Cause that’s funny stuff.

Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.

by Just Dave on Jul 27, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice Brad Smith pic!

Getting back to the last thread…

How is MSW, Brandon Marshall light?!

He’s not physical, can’t beat press coverage, and won’t go over the middle for you.

by O-Line Wins Games on Jul 27, 2011 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Didnt he struggle for a while in Miami

"I see PRIDE, I see POWER, I see a BADASS MOTHA WHO WON'T TAKE NO CRAP OFF NOBODY!"

by T.Moore on Jul 27, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

He didn't catch a lot of TDs

But that might have a lot more to do with Henne than him.

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent - Salvor Hardin

by badsamaritan on Jul 27, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I also remember him dropping passes early as well

But i think he gotten better as the season went on

"I see PRIDE, I see POWER, I see a BADASS MOTHA WHO WON'T TAKE NO CRAP OFF NOBODY!"

by T.Moore on Jul 27, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah but he got his 1000 yards and still snagged 86 receptions with Henne and Thigpen throwing him the rock.

Marshall is another good example of why MSW is overrated. The Dolphins are a run first offense as well and they had 2 different but equally bad QB’s and yet he still played well. Not to his usual standard but better than a lot of other receivers. What’s MSW’s excuse?

by frenchbears113 on Jul 27, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

By the Way

In the “More from WCG” section under the story is a story from Feb ’09 about how Benson is a perfect complement to Forte – CLASSIC!

If its free, take two.

by T.J. Shouse on Jul 27, 2011 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

If you ever have time to kill

And I mean lots of time. Dig through the archives. They’re pretty dang good.

Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.

by Just Dave on Jul 27, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

who wrote it?

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sims-Walker isn't a viable #1

Yes, he’s big, but he doesn’t give you much more than that. I understand that they don’t want to pay Sydney Rice $10 million a year, but what’s the point of signing Sims-Walker at all?

by DitkaStache on Jul 27, 2011 2:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Doesn't give much more than that?

He not only is big, he is fast (4.35 40 time), he fights for the ball, he is a decent run blocker which is something Martz demands from his players, and he has #1 ability without the #1 price tag.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

That sounds like that one article that was printed out in Jax

Ive seen some games with him and he does fight for the ball. He gets taken out of the game when Garrard is taken out of the game IMO

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can you afford that guy while also leaving cap room for a massive O-line upgrade as well as some FA defensive players?

Don’t think so, so to the bargain bin we go!

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent - Salvor Hardin

by badsamaritan on Jul 27, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well in that case get Malcolm Floyd. He's bigger, he's fast, comes from a similar offense, runs good routes and looked good last season until the pulled hamstring.

If it’s all about QB’s then we all know how good Floyd can be with a rocket-armed QB and especially since Floyd averaged 19 yards a catch last season that makes the potential for this offense huge AND he can also be had for cheap.

by frenchbears113 on Jul 27, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not opposed to that idea but you know they're not going to get 2 receivers. I'd rather 1 or the other and some oline

This is my stance, I honestly don’t care who is brought in as long as they help win games. If that’s MSW then fine I’ll live with it. I wasn’t happy when this team signed Manu and Martz to coach the offense but I dealt with it anyway lol. I just want to win

by frenchbears113 on Jul 27, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

19 yards a catch is nice

But he only caught 35 balls last year, and 45 in his only full season in 2009. I just think on a team that has 2 or 3 legitimate options at #2 receiver, why spend the money another guy of that caliber? Neither Floyd nor MSW are legitimate, go-to #1 guys, and Earl Bennet, in my mind, has just as good a chance of developing into one as either of them do. I’m all for signing a number 1 receiver, but height isn’t necessarily an end-all-be-all, that’s why DA isn’t on the team anymore.

by DitkaStache on Jul 27, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly I'm in total agreement but since the #1 receiver we all want is going to happen I'd rather go with the best available WR if they indeed are going after one.

MSW isn’t as great as some are making him out to be and Floyd is a good #2. But although he only had 35 receptions he still looked the part of a go to guy when he had the chance. I think he has shown more flashes to be a #1 than MSW has. That’s just my personal take on it

by frenchbears113 on Jul 27, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

bears have contacted Willie Colon LT steelers

according to michael wright

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by dabears85 on Jul 27, 2011 2:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Now THATS news

Any other O-Lineman? Particularly Guards?

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm...he would be a decent pick-up

But if we do sign a RT what does this mean for Webb? Would Colon be a fit as a Guard or would we slide Webb inside? Or does this mean Webb is out of the picture completely?

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

true this

Ask Tice lol. We could move him next to Carimi on the LG. and Williams became the swing tackle

by chiguy8506 on Jul 27, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

The major headsratcher is Colon's size

He seems more like a fit as a Guard in Tice’s scheme at least on paper.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please refrain from using the words "Colon" and "slide inside" ever again.

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Jul 27, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Un rec....

For making my dribble orange soda on a white dress shirt @ work. :(

by I Have Bearsititis on Jul 27, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry. Better slip your Ditka sweater vest on.

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Jul 27, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was a RT btw

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

or webb at RT

and move carimi to LG. which is the position most experts project him for

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by dabears85 on Jul 27, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait Carimi at LG?

Where was this?

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stop with the DMS

and stop killing the development of rookies with FAs. Carimi is a OT (left or right – I think left) and so is Webb. Put an FA like Dahl or Blaylock next to Carimi and you improve his development. Remember how much better Webb did next to Garza as opposed to when he was next to Louis?

"Oy Vey, everyone's repeating everything in everymanner till this lockout's over"

by BearDownIsrael on Jul 27, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

developing players is good

winning championships is better

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Jul 27, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Colon was a RT

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

most?

If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 27, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then who do we add into the interior?

Dahl?

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lets see so the MSW signing won't be much

Are we going to go spend the big bucks on O-Linemen then? Idk just feel that Guard is the bigger need at this very moment. But Colon or better yet Claybo at RT would sound good to me.

And…if we dont get a Guard (God Forbid) does that mean its Herman Johnson’s time to shine? So many questions right now.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok we're not in agreement about MSW but....

If they sign Bushrod then depending on how much is spent, they can probably make a run at Blalock or Dahl. I think Carimi would be moved to RT and Webb to either open OG spot. Doesn’t make sense but that would be a HUGE oline

by frenchbears113 on Jul 27, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

This

makes me happy, id like to see them address the Oline right now!

by Dilfer_The_Dbag on Jul 27, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's not forget that Colon

didn’t play at all in 2010. Achilles injury. Could still have lingering effects but that’s typical Bears move. Not saying he wouldn’t be a good pickup and he’s relatively young but I’d hope they did their homework on his progress since injury. Missing an entire season on top of a lockout could mean he’s under-conditioned.

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jul 27, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok ok

Cool

"I see PRIDE, I see POWER, I see a BADASS MOTHA WHO WON'T TAKE NO CRAP OFF NOBODY!"

by T.Moore on Jul 27, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Take a read into this statement
Interestingly, though, the availability of Colon and Bushrod could potentially be determined by what happens in Atlanta with the Falcons trying to sign free-agent tackle Tyson Claybo, and guards Justin Blaylock and Harvey Dahl. The Bears expressed interest in Claybo prior to the NFL draft, but obviously drafted Gabe Carimi in the first round.

So the Bears are also interested in Bushrod, while possibly looking at Harvey Dahl and other interior O-Lineman. Very interesting this is

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Use the Force, Young Skywalker

O-Line address we must

Very interesting this is

If its free, take two.

by T.J. Shouse on Jul 27, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha yup

It makes it sound “sage” like

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is not an upgrade.

steelers’ line was bad last year, and he was one of the reasons. he had some bright points, but he also had some downright horrible ones.

by Nih1lus on Jul 27, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

meant 2009

sorry about that, realize he didn’t play last year. worried about his injury too.

by Nih1lus on Jul 27, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course everything would start to go down

on the day I spend the majority of my day stuck covering the county fair. Jeez, looks like there is a lot of excitement brewing.

-No surprise the rookie contracts are falling like dominoes; Cliff Stein is the man!

-I’m cool w/ Brad Smith, I see him as sort of a Rashied Davis replacement while also replacing D. Manning’s KR abilities.

Jay Cutler is still my quarterback.
Formerly GallopingGhost

by Sam Householder on Jul 27, 2011 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm not cool with Brad Smith.

Id rather give Fantuz a chance than this guy. As for a Rashied replacement, I’d also rather see Sanzenbacher get his chance. Tough dude.

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jul 27, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually

All of the above is true. Although, I say Fantuz is a longshot to begin with and Smith actually has NFL experience….

Jay Cutler is still my quarterback.
Formerly GallopingGhost

by Sam Householder on Jul 27, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Smith has NFL experience, yes.

But why would he really be worth acquiring? Is he going to bring a different dimension to this offense? I don’t really see it.

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jul 27, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I keep hearing Roy WIlliams' name floating around

I’m going to preemptively say “no” to that. Overrated prima donna.

by NorthSideBearsFan on Jul 27, 2011 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

He's also a nut job

But, hey, if any team has enough of a veteran presence to deal with a nut job in the locker room, then it’s the Bears. I’d just rather not take the chance if there’s another option. Plus, that first down thing he does after every decent play really pisses me off.

by DitkaStache on Jul 27, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

kreutz would keep him in check (assuming kreutz is back)

as would our other vets. if the price tag isn’t too bad, definitely worth a shot…he’s got tons of ability and has done quite well before, especially with martz

by guy incognito on Jul 27, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd take Williams over Smith

As dabears85 points out, he had his best year under Martz and he has better size than our guys.

Jay Cutler is still my quarterback.
Formerly GallopingGhost

by Sam Householder on Jul 27, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

When do we move on and change our outlook from critical to supportive?

When we win a Super Bowl, maybe? Smith and Angelo’s tenures have seen some incredible highs, but they’ve also seen some teams who have woefully underachieved. It’s ok to be critical of the Bear’s management, a lot of fans put an awful lot of time and money into this team.

by DitkaStache on Jul 27, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

In comparison

Lovie, JA and company look golden if you look at the Bears crappy nineties era. One SB, two NFC title appearances, and three division titles seem very successful to me.

"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse

by propheteer on Jul 27, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's absolutely right

Lovie Smith, maligned as he is, has been, relatively, very successful and fairly consistent. His players like him, and, despite the maddening moment here and there, his teams are rarely out-coached or unprepared. I’m far from a Lovie-basher, but I do understand some of the criticisms.

by DitkaStache on Jul 27, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Technically JA was there for 1/2 the Jauron era

and has had 5 winning season out of 10. Lovie has 4 of 7. So depends on how one looks at it I guess. With a top 5 market team some might want some more consistency before crowning them “golden”, Even when trying to block out Wannstedt

by TheMan1 on Jul 27, 2011 6:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Based on their predecessors they're definitely golden

There was a whole lot of suck before JA and Lovie got there.

"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse

by propheteer on Jul 28, 2011 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's also a bit premature to use Paea and Carimi as evidence of Angelo's superior drafting ability

is it not?
I’m as thrilled with those picks as anyone else, but they haven’t played a single down for us yet.

by DitkaStache on Jul 27, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes, because that would mean that Jerry fooled us into believing something that wasn't true.

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Jul 27, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, fair enough

Though I’d argue that JA is getting paid what I assume is a pretty decent salary to get those picks right. I like Lovie, and I can live with JA. I’m not out here to be a meathead and spout nonsense about our cheapness or Lovie’s demeanor. But I think Angelo’s draft record is questionable at best, and, though I’m too lazy to look it up right now, unless I’m very mistaken, I think a lot of people would agree. Two picks that haven’t even started practicing for the Bears yet don’t magically undo several years of average to below-average drafting, do they?

by DitkaStache on Jul 27, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course not.

But I was addressing the three biggest complaints, and what the team has done in the last three years relating to those complaints.

I’m not saying they didn’t used to be valid points, but how long do we hold grudges for things past, especially if recent years have shown trending improvements?

by Dane Noble on Jul 27, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't hold a grudge against any Bear or ex-Bear

And I’m thrilled with what the front office has done, in terms of revamping this team after the post-Super Bowl letdown. But these next few weeks or so are crucial in taking this team to the next level, and I’d like to see those trending improvements continue before I start heaping praise.

by DitkaStache on Jul 27, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never mentioned heaping praise.

I’m addressing all of the complaints from fans that the Bears haven’t been big movers in the last couple days, and that they never do anything in Free Agency.

by Dane Noble on Jul 27, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Curious - why just last 3 years?

Its kind of like saying I called off or screwed things up the first 9 months of the year but I had 2 decent months and a good one to close out the year… Raise and bonus please!

by TheMan1 on Jul 27, 2011 4:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Because three offseasons ago they stepped out of their norm

and traded for Jay Cutler. Each offseason since then, they’ve done well.

by Dane Noble on Jul 27, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK - Am interested to see what they do this year

See if we are witnessing and organization philosophy change or a couple flukes. Especially with $30+ mill in cap space

by TheMan1 on Jul 27, 2011 6:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Please stop with the rational comments....

My brain can’t process them…..Angelo=bad, Lovie=dull, McCaskeys=cheap….This is what I have been conditioned to know….

by I Have Bearsititis on Jul 27, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

This is how I feel, I don’t understand how they still get continually criticized when clearly this is the best the organization had been in 20 years. Now, I believe Angelo still deserves some criticism but he has done tons better in the past couple of years.

But as long as snafus like the Ravens draft trade and James Starks thing happen, I think JA deserves some criticism.

Jay Cutler is still my quarterback.
Formerly GallopingGhost

by Sam Householder on Jul 27, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec for you too

I’m not sure how old everyone is, but the nineties era was a pile of crap. The Bears drafts were some of the worst in the history of the organization, and their offseason moves weren’t much better (ex. mirer).

"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse

by propheteer on Jul 28, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Supportive? I tell you when I show I'm supportive.

When I pay over $100 a ticket to take my family to the game. When I attend training camp and buy my kids jerseys and Bears gear. I’m supportive of the Bears because I’m a fan of the team. But because I love this team I also have high expectations for them. So I tend to be critical. I want them to win every game, every week. Plus I think fans get frustrated when they see and hear about teams making moves to improve and still nothing out of Halas hall. We’re anxious. We’ve been craving any kind of news or moves to discuss and so far we’ve grabbed an ass load of UDFA’s and signed some late round picks. Nothing sexy. Nothing big. We want our team to be big. Give us something to cheer about. This waiting tends to make people crabby.

Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.

by Just Dave on Jul 27, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

your going to make a great grumpy old man some day!

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Jul 27, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the idea Ed!

My team is on the floor. -Coach Norman Dale

by Ditkavsworld on Jul 27, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any news with these guys?

Malcolm Floyd, WR, Chargers
Davin Joseph, RG, Bucs or Harvey Dahl, RG, Falcons (would rather have had a LG)
Chris Carr, CB, Ravens
Barrett Ruud, LB, Tampa Bay
Vernon Gholston, DE, Jets

"Oy Vey, everyone's repeating everything in everymanner till this lockout's over"

by BearDownIsrael on Jul 27, 2011 3:14 PM CDT reply actions  

No, No, No, No, No

No new news on any of them

Dahl might be someone the Bears are geared up to get, but must wait to see what happens with the Falcons before they give chase.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

no news! What about opinions?

especially on the last three

"Oy Vey, everyone's repeating everything in everymanner till this lockout's over"

by BearDownIsrael on Jul 27, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Floyd wont be a Charger

Joseph seems destined to return to the Bucs and all their cap space, Harvey Dahl might be a Bears target depending on how things shape up in Atl, and as for LGs there are Kyle Kosier, Evan Mathis, Shaun O’Hara to name a few.

Chris Carr might be signed by Houston if they can’t land Asomugha, or he could return to Baltimore via same reason

Ruud might be resigned by the Bucs

Gholston, seems like no one is interested in him at this moment

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ruud ain't goin back to the Bucs .....

… heres the LINK to show as much .

The Bucs haven’t even talked to Joseph , heres the LINK .

We are looking into Colon , Bushrod , Dahl , Blayock & others , heres the LINK . And it seems Justin Durant is a favorite of our as well .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 27, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Na I'll leave that to somebody else ..... hint , hint

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 27, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Roger that!

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gholston intrigues me.

He’s miscast on the Jets because he’s a 4-3 rush DE. In the Jets 3-4 scheme he’s too small as a DE and not good as an OLB. It would not bother me at all to bring him into the rotation at DE to see what he can do with some pass rushing reps.

by Mike Mueller on Jul 27, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Give him a one year , easily cuttable deal and see what the kids got .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 27, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

100% agree

and no one is going to pay big money, it wouldn’t hurt a thing to bring him in, and cheap.

"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin

by Brendan Hess on Jul 27, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

I would like to see him in his traditional role, see if he has it? If not it can’t cost too much.

by TheMan1 on Jul 27, 2011 7:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

plaxico is going to either the steelers or giants

according to chris mortenson

@Sletizia7.... follow me

by dabears85 on Jul 27, 2011 3:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Probably back to New York

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Things I'd like to see:

Bears come to terms with:

RG Harvey Dahl
OT Jermon Bushrod
WR Michael Floyd, Mike Sims-Walker, a trade for Steve Smith or Roy Williams (in that order)
DE Vernon Gholston
LB Justin Durant

"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin

by Brendan Hess on Jul 27, 2011 3:47 PM CDT reply actions  

and...

OC Olin Kreutz
LB Nick Roach
CB Corey Graham
QB Caleb Hanie

"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin

by Brendan Hess on Jul 27, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

how can the Jets afford Nmandi Asomugha?

Espn and others have been reporting all day that the Jets are hot on Asomugha, How in the world can the Jets sign this guy and still be under the salary cap? Are they not planning on having backups for the starters? Any ideas on how they can afford all these high dollars stars? Not saying we need the guy, just curious how they plan on being under the cap or are they planning on cutting a bunch of people here in the next 24 hours? Revis and NA would be about as good a pair of corners ever fielded.

White Sox fans need not apply.

by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jul 27, 2011 4:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh no doubt

according to ESPN Baseball the entire American league is fielded for the soul purpose to play catch with the Red Sox and the Yankees. Why would the NFL be any different.

White Sox fans need not apply.

by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jul 27, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree they're terrible

and frankly you could’ve stopped at that. Take away Schefter and Clayton, and I have no use for ESPN for my NFL fix.

If its free, take two.

by T.J. Shouse on Jul 27, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just saw this over at the Trib....

“RT @MarkSlough: Since FA’s can’t sign till 6pm Fri teams reluctant to put best offer on table & let agents shop it. Expect flurry of signings this weekend.”

Maybe that’s why we haven’t heard much from the Bears. Not saying it makes it ok to not be offering deals but maybe they’re waiting to spring their trap.

by frenchbears113 on Jul 27, 2011 4:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank god he has Lovie & Co. to keep him in check.

Don’t think we’d have 11 wins and a trip to the NFCCG if he didn’t go 50/50 after the bye.

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jul 27, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

That my friend is truth

hopefully he doesn’t forget that successful formula.

My team is on the floor. -Coach Norman Dale

by Ditkavsworld on Jul 27, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw an article where he said that

we would be keeping the same offensive formula that we implemented after the bye last season. I was relieved to hear that so it better be true.

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jul 27, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll believe it when I see it.

My team is on the floor. -Coach Norman Dale

by Ditkavsworld on Jul 27, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's our new offense

first down run right 2 yards
second down run left 3 yards
third down Cutler drops back two steps but has to scramble so he throw the ball out of bounds.

color commentator remarks on Cutlers bad form in throwing it out of bounds off his back foot.

Bears win 14 – 10 thanks to two Devin Hester returns for TD’s and great D.

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Jul 27, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well done sir...

One question is that you or Ben Stien with a beard in your avatar?

My team is on the floor. -Coach Norman Dale

by Ditkavsworld on Jul 27, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL - no it's me

I have boots taller than Ben Stein.

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Jul 27, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey just thought I'd ask. :)

My team is on the floor. -Coach Norman Dale

by Ditkavsworld on Jul 27, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

bueller.....bueller.......bueller?

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Jul 27, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

Martz wanted Manu, how has that one worked out?

by boondock_saint812 on Jul 27, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have him than Smith

…but I’d rather we get a new guy

"Word of advice, don’t join, Bears fans are crazy."--- D-Jackfan10

by ThorCo on Jul 27, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rocky Bernard got cut

what about him at DT?

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by ThorCo on Jul 27, 2011 5:10 PM CDT reply actions  

nate clements is getting cut

could be a good pick up at the right price

@Sletizia7.... follow me

by dabears85 on Jul 27, 2011 5:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Bears have contacted Willie Colon

And are pursuing WR Mike SIms-Walker, OG Harvey Dahl, OG Justin Blalock, OT Jarrod Bushrod, LB Durant of the Jaguars, and possibly WR Roy Williams.

Currently in negotiations with Olin Kreutz, Nick Roach, and Corey Graham.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where was it reported MSW was actually being Persued??

I’ve seen nothing to confirm that.. Other than he expressed intrest in being a bear.

Just cuz you’ve post about how badly you want him over and over.. and over… doesn’t mean the bears are actually interested in him

I really mean that in the nicest way an think your just excited an I can appreciate that but pretty sure by now everyone here knows you want MSW lol

by edenburnz on Jul 27, 2011 7:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Im not the only one lol

And if you go check out nfl.com they have us listed under “teams interested”

Meanwhile I’m still monitoring the web for concrete evidence.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interested in an pursing are very different things, sure they've been 'interested' in tons of players

An there’s nothing in the fanshot regarding MSW besides your own words man..

Hopefully we do start seeing some real things happening cuz while I like that the front office is hush hush in their deals, it’s extremely frustrating as a fan an swimming threw all the ‘rumors’ an misinformation out there is almost painful lol

by edenburnz on Jul 27, 2011 7:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yea it is lol

And in the meantime I’m constantly searching for any new developments regarding MSW to da Bears rumors. Hopefully something far more concrete comes up soon!

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Sidney Rice...

will be a Seahawk

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Jul 27, 2011 6:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Called it

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

part of me thinks he will suck there

"I see PRIDE, I see POWER, I see a BADASS MOTHA WHO WON'T TAKE NO CRAP OFF NOBODY!"

by T.Moore on Jul 27, 2011 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Steve Breaston

will be a Card.

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Jul 27, 2011 6:46 PM CDT reply actions  

...but he can be dealt with.

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Jul 27, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

adam schefter says he agree to be a chief via twitter

Former Cardinals WR Steve Breaston reaches agreement with Chiefs on five-year deal and rejoins Todd Haley.

by chiguy8506 on Jul 27, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn.

My new pet kitten “Mr. Chow” decided to spaz out and ran onto my keyboard when I was typing mid-sentence. Thank you for correcting.

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Jul 27, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now thats going to be a tough offense to defend

Good QB, #1 ranked running game in the NFL, and now you have a pretty balanced WR corps to go with the #1 WR in Bowe.

Chiefs are the favorite to win the AFC West to my eyes.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Choke in the playoffs

Yeah i think Cassel is as good as Orton

"I see PRIDE, I see POWER, I see a BADASS MOTHA WHO WON'T TAKE NO CRAP OFF NOBODY!"

by T.Moore on Jul 27, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which isn't nearly as bad as in other places

They are a run-first team afterall. As long as Cassel doesn’t screw up their offense will be just fine

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

@ChicagoBearscom LM: Saw #Bears QB Jay Cutler today in Bourbonnais; he looks thinner, stronger, more “cut” to me than last year.
3 hours ago

by TheGreatGrabowski on Jul 27, 2011 6:56 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Nice

Our QB looks ready for revenge

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can someone tell me who the heck Bushrod is? Other than a smarmy joke?

I literally know nothing about the guy.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Jul 27, 2011 7:15 PM CDT reply actions  

He was an OT for the Saints

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

So if we go Bushrod does that mean we have Carimi at RT? Or is Bushrod up for changing positions?

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe..if Bushrod comes in at LT

Then someone such as Dahl comes in at RG, then we could place Webb at LG and Carimi at RT.

Here is the thinking behind that; Bushrod and Kreutz would be the veteran presences to aid Webb as he uses his size and athletisism to his advantage, where Dahl would aid Carimi with his development.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

now that rice and holmes are gone

we better get 2 top 10 FA O-lineman. and a good pass rusher and a corner

@Sletizia7.... follow me. no really do it.

by dabears85 on Jul 27, 2011 7:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Thats probably what our plan was coming into FA

Spend big on O-Lineman and perhaps get a decent WR into our corps.

Babin seems unavailable at this point (thank Ditka) but Ray Edwards is also available.

Im also wondering if we intend to throw some money at CBs not at Nnamdi per say but more like Johnathon Joseph or Ike Taylor per say.

I would like the following as far as additions go:

OT Willie Colon
OG Harvey Dahl
OG Evan Mathis
WR Mike Sims-Walker
DT Brandon Mebane
CB Johnathon Joseph

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh..yea just saw that

Escaped my trace of thoughts for a quick moment

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

it kool

this is what i wanna go to school for.

by chiguy8506 on Jul 27, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sports broadcasting?

Thats a great field to go into especially if you are a passionate sports fan

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well Journalism but yeah

I also try to learn for the best bears website EVER!!!!

by chiguy8506 on Jul 27, 2011 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could we really sign Roy Williams?

im not a huge fan of his. I agree with dabears85 , I’d rather have 2 top 10 Oline and someone opposite pep and Peanut

by chiguy8506 on Jul 27, 2011 7:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Or...you know

And I’d rather give someone like MSW a chance than those two players. Edwards and Williams are enticing options but when names such as Colon and Dahl are tied with the Bears we are not going to have a ton of money to throw around.

Also can you honestly say Rice has earned such a monstrous pay off? He only had 1 good season and that was with Favre. Instead he gets 18+ guaranteed and returns to his former QB in Travaris Jackson. If he was asking for that price then Im glad we didnt pay him.

Look into the trade market for WRs as players such as Steve Smith and Chad Ochocinco could be up for grabs.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll agree with that but I got some kind of feel to expect a Chi-Car tunnel to happen again

Holmes got 24 mil Guaranteed. But who knows right I mean maybe the right price we could get either

by chiguy8506 on Jul 27, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well 18.5 million guaranteed isn't really a monstrous payoff...

He can possibly take it to $41 million but that isn’t top receiver money. It can possibly turn into that but who knows

by frenchbears113 on Jul 27, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Still when looking at what he has done in his 4 years in Minnesota

Is he really worth 18.5 million guaranteed?

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I mean I was all for Rice up till I see the numbers on his contract

I definitely have a feeling MSW will not be commanding a contract as high as Rice’s

Now if Rice came here for a smaller contract then I’d been as giddy as a school girl. Just not for 18.5 mill which would mean less money for good O-Lineman

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 27, 2011 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

This reminds me of the Bulls free agent last year

Bulls were interested in Joe Johnson (who is good but nowhere near superstar level) and was overpayed by the Hawks. I dont think Rice will be that great good but not elite

"I see PRIDE, I see POWER, I see a BADASS MOTHA WHO WON'T TAKE NO CRAP OFF NOBODY!"

by T.Moore on Jul 27, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah but it's a 5 year deal so his base contract is a little over 3 million a year.....

If he doesn’t stay healthy and hit those incentives then that’s a small price to pay. But at this point I say they spend most of what they have on resigning Kreutz, Roach and Adams. They should sign Justin Durant or James Anderson at LB, sign either Dahl or Blalock for either Guard spot and Bushrod at LT and extend Forte and Olsen. With whatever’s left they can possibly sign a lower tier receiver or hell even another Guard like Leonard Davis or Shaun O’Hara.

by frenchbears113 on Jul 27, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bears lost on on Justin Durant

Hes going to detroit

@Sletizia7.... follow me. no really do it.

by dabears85 on Jul 27, 2011 9:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Link to story ???

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 27, 2011 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

saw it on twitter

from vaughn mcclure and michael wright

@Sletizia7.... follow me. no really do it.

by dabears85 on Jul 27, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just saw it on Rotoworld ......

…. and it seems like he wanted too much cash and we sent him to die in Detroit .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 27, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

People just keep drinking the detroit coolaid

We’ll remember this

"I see PRIDE, I see POWER, I see a BADASS MOTHA WHO WON'T TAKE NO CRAP OFF NOBODY!"

by T.Moore on Jul 27, 2011 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

i mean, they should be much-improved

and will play teams tough. will they make the playoffs? doubtful. but they won’t be a pushover…well, unless they have a lot of injuries.

by guy incognito on Jul 27, 2011 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

And guess who gets injured alot ???

Well his first name is Justin and his last ain’t Bieber and he just signed with the Lions .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 27, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Figured he'd want to play with LB legends

I guess he wants to blaze his own trail where LBs go to die.

"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse

by propheteer on Jul 28, 2011 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Olsen on the move/block?
“The Bears have granted me permission to seek a trade for Greg Olsen,” Rosenhaus wrote. “Please let me know if interested. Sounds like the Bears will be very reasonable on the compensation in return for Greg.”

per Biggs. WTF?

"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse

by propheteer on Jul 28, 2011 12:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Dammit Mike!

"I see PRIDE, I see POWER, I see a BADASS MOTHA WHO WON'T TAKE NO CRAP OFF NOBODY!"

by T.Moore on Jul 28, 2011 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not cool at all

I can’t believe they’d even consider this… Maybe they were trying to work out a trade that fell threw an his agent misunderstood? He did put out another email 11 mins later telling GMs etc to ignore the first email

by edenburnz on Jul 28, 2011 1:02 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Strange turn of events on the emails

They better get a Pro-bowl WR in return.

"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse

by propheteer on Jul 28, 2011 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ya someone messed up here...

Dunno if it was the agent or JA & co but if they make the mistake of trading him it better be worth it!

IMO Olsen has potential to be an amazing TE, he’s already pretty good, an he’s one player I hope retires as a Bear someday

by edenburnz on Jul 28, 2011 1:11 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'd prefer a Pro Bowl lineman to keep Jay standing .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 28, 2011 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bad Move

Unless they get a great return AND locked up a tall, red zone dominant receiver, this is a mistake. While G-Reg has not been perfect in his tenure as a Bear, he is our best red zone threat and a great athlete. He seems to be a good locker room presence as well. Though I don’t know how much that really matters. Fucking Martz undervaluing tight ends. It pisses me off.

by J-Town All Star on Jul 28, 2011 2:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta say I am not surprised at all

I mean cmon martz has not wanted Olsen from the get go…..Now he is in final year of deal and might not be able to re-sign him….IMO he gets dealt before the beginning of season……

Always remember the first rule of power tactics; power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.....

- Lovie Smith

by CloudyFuture on Jul 28, 2011 7:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haynesworth

to the Pats for a 5th round pick. Who would’ve guessed?

You're never a loser until you quit trying - MIke Ditka

by DutchBear on Jul 28, 2011 5:45 AM CDT reply actions  

I have this weird feeling

that being around Bill Belichick will get Albert back into form. I expect him to be their replacement after trading Richard Seymour a few years ago.

by zoltarian1114 on Jul 28, 2011 6:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Babin

signed with the Eagles for 5 years.

You're never a loser until you quit trying - MIke Ditka

by DutchBear on Jul 28, 2011 8:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Bears signed Adam Podlesh from Jacksonville

This is his SBN page

"Word of advice, don’t join, Bears fans are crazy."--- D-Jackfan10

by ThorCo on Jul 28, 2011 8:05 AM CDT reply actions  

With the tweet from
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Bears reached agreement with former Jaguars punter Adam Podlesh on a five-year contract.

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by ThorCo on Jul 28, 2011 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

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