Roy Williams possibly coming to Chicago
by Dominique Blanton on Jul 28, 2011 7:00 PM CDT
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PrintIt's no secret that one of the more pressing needs the Bears have to address in free agency besides obviously offensive line is wide receiver. With TE Greg Olsen reportedly headed to Carolina to catch passes from Cam Newton and Jimmy Clausen, wide receiver or some type of receiving threat will need to be addressed this off-season. Olsen was pretty much Jay's only big target in the passing game and was a guy that Jay looked for when he was on the run or had to make a quick decision. With now only Earl Bennett, Johnny Knox, Devin Hester, CFL star Andy Fantuz, and Kellen Davis the current receiving threats on the roster, Martz and Jay are going to need another target and preferably a big possession WR. Enter Ex-Lions and Cowboy WR Roy Williams who is supposedly on the Bears radar because of his history with OC Mike Martz and Receiver coach Darryl Drake.
Me personally I don't like the move, but can understand the move given the condensed off-season and his familiarity with the system. Roy certainly would bring a different element to the Bears receiving group regarding his size (6-3 215 pounds). His best season came under Martz in Detroit where he posted 1310 yards and 7 touchdowns on 82 receptions. The Cowboys trade for Williams in 2008 with the thought that he would be teams future #1 WR when Owens contract was up there, but during his tenure there saw receivers Miles Austin and Dez Bryant bump him down the depth chart and he was eventually released earlier this week.
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I really don't like Williams.
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I second that,
He’s not an upgrade over what we have already. He’s whiny with alligator arm tendancies.
My biggest issue,
is how he gave up on his team in Detroit. He was dropping balls on purpose, because he had some sort of rift with either a coach or player. That’s the stuff that’s unforgivable.
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by David Taylor on Jul 28, 2011 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember that game against the Bears where he just gave up
At that time though, the Lions was a mess.
by Dominique Blanton on Jul 29, 2011 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions
you still don't give up on the guys around you.
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by David Taylor on Jul 29, 2011 7:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't question
a man’s effort. Just because it looks like he quit, doesn’t mean he did. Frustration is a powerful distraction and detractor. It can erode concentration and all the things necessary to catch a ball.
This is the same situation with Cutler, Benson and the like.
Now that he's a Bear, I wish he WOULD drop some balls...
… and play like a man, if you catch my meaning.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jul 29, 2011 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I like it. If Martz and williams worked once, they can make it happen again.
"We didn't play our best game, and we won. That's got to be a good sign.'' - Jay Cutler
by Claudio Oliveira on Jul 28, 2011 7:08 PM CDT reply actions
The Bears and Marty Booker worked once too!
And Orlando Pace once blocked as well.
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by David Taylor on Jul 28, 2011 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
oh shit..
please, dont kill my optimism.. lol
"We didn't play our best game, and we won. That's got to be a good sign.'' - Jay Cutler
by Claudio Oliveira on Jul 28, 2011 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Moose was good too!
Too bad it was with Carolina.
"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse
Mike Martz better know what he is doing with this
Roy Williams had his best season under Martz; but that is history. Nobody in Dallas liked him, and I don’t understand why we are apparantly giving up on either Malcom Floyd or Mike Sims-Walker? If you’re a good coach then coaching up new guys in the Offense should be a piece of cake for you Mike Martz!
Speaking of which where on God’s Earth is Tice in all of this chaos? I thought he was given power to make personel decisions in particular O-Lineman yet the one guy we made an offer to as turned us down/ I speak of Willie Colon as he turned down our offer to stay in Pittsburgh. This is the final straw for Jerry as with such a solid draft he as of now sits on his ass and does nothing meaningful up to this point. If we fail because of him then Im sorry Jay Cutler but we must find a new OC and HC and GM to start the re-build.
Of all the confidence and spirit I had seeing this develop, I couldn’t be any more dissapointed in Jerry or for the matter George McCaskey as he wants to sell us this “Win Now” mode yet we have yet to make one meaningful move!?
Unbelievable
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 28, 2011 7:08 PM CDT reply actions
really.. Tice is too quiet..
maybe something is happening on backstage?
"We didn't play our best game, and we won. That's got to be a good sign.'' - Jay Cutler
by Claudio Oliveira on Jul 28, 2011 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Tice...
Didn’t talk until camp last year either. I think its a rule. Martz hasn’t really talked in a while either, we just project things onto him.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
by Brendan Hess on Jul 28, 2011 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll bet my salary
on the Bears making two meaningful moves by the end of the weekend. This doesn’t include the headcase Williams.
"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse
I could see him fit
I really don’t like trading Olsen!. Especially if we don’t stick with the Martzfense for years. He was never utilized properly. Dammit!! We better have gotten something good for him!! Sure hope Kellen is in the plans and ready to produce!
"We can do it any way you want to. We can go right out back and get it on or you can shape your ass up," Da Coach
The only way I would be "satisfied" is if we don't sign Williams to a big contract AND if we get good O-Lineman!
C’mon you lazy bastard spend the damn money already!
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 28, 2011 7:10 PM CDT reply actions
At this point as long as the line is shored up I don't really care if Williams becomes a Bear...
If he can be had for cheap then give him a shot. He may have a chip on his shoulder and play well or he’ll be a cheap mistake. Still think the Bears will make a run at Floyd and/or MSW but who knows. The thing is, there are a lot of OG’s still out there and a couple of good OT’s in Jared Gaither and Tyson Claybo. So I’m more inclined to see how it goes tomorrow as opposed to overreacting.
Im extremely worried that the Lions may get Asomugha as reported by the Detriot press
Mike Martz better be sure Roy Williams gets back in line. We are sacrificing too much right now.
Im with you on the O-Line but I don’t know how much longer we can wait for Jerry to make a damn move
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 28, 2011 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Well I doubt he becomes a Lion. I think he'll either stay in Oakland or go to Houston.
by frenchbears113 on Jul 28, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
jets maybe..
"We didn't play our best game, and we won. That's got to be a good sign.'' - Jay Cutler
by Claudio Oliveira on Jul 28, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
He wont
Definitely wont return to Oakland and the Texans apparently lost out on him because they just signed Jonathan Joseph to a big 5-year contract.
by Diehard ChiTown Fan on Jul 28, 2011 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Awesome-wa
I doubt he’d go for the Lions and the Lions don’t really need him. They have a strong D-line so they don’t need a shutdown man corner. They need help on offense, specifically RB or slot receiver.
Say no to Roy
I live in Austin and can tell you Roy is neither a great receiver or a great character guy. He tries to talk like he is, and act like he is an elite NFL wide receiver just like he acted like he was a great college WR but it’s all an act. He will be just like all the other busts the Bears have signed when they thought they were getting a top WR. Dumb move, hate the guy, and hate his game.
like him or not, he´s proven to be productive under Martz system..
"We didn't play our best game, and we won. That's got to be a good sign.'' - Jay Cutler
by Claudio Oliveira on Jul 28, 2011 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
where in Austin?
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wtf
There is still Braylon Edwards, Malcom Floyd, Plaxico Burress, Mike-Sims Walker, Steve Smith(Giants) and even Terrell Owens and they think the best choice is ROY WILLIAMS! What is Mike Martz trying to prove?!!!? Last year, he said Wide Recievers would be the strngth of the team and look what happened. And now with a good free agent class of recievers-mostly big recievers-he says that big recievers dont matter. Well Mike, when ur WRs are small and not too productive, I think they DO!!!!!!
by Diehard ChiTown Fan on Jul 28, 2011 7:20 PM CDT reply actions
That isn't a very good receiver crop
at the least Williams knows Martz system and flourished under him. Other than Malcolm Floyd I don’t see how any of them could be considered “best choice” in any capacity.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Jul 28, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Martz...
hasn’t proven to me that “knowing his system” instills me with any confidence.
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by jameslcrockett on Jul 28, 2011 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
it wasn't really to instill confidence
I think its an all around poor receiver pool to be honest. I’m just saying at the very least, Williams had a good season with martz.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Jul 28, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I can see it now....
Roy Williams in a Bears jersey explaining to the camera how the Bears are going to whip the Lions by 3 touchdowns, he will have 100 yards and a couple touchdowns, Cutler will be throwing for 400 yards and have a perfect qb rating and blah blah blah.
Man, I was glad when Mayhew traded him because I think Pettigrew will be a better player than Williams ever will be. Not to mention, this guy signaled for a first down when the Lions would be getting killed in those game he played in.
Man oh man please sign Roy Williams! I would love to see him play against the new Lions this season!
From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!
by DLions4Eva on Jul 28, 2011 7:21 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Go Away!!
Isn’t there some little lions site you should be on?
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by droppopotamus on Jul 28, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
DL4E post here all the time.
I don’t really read trolling into his comments.
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by David Taylor on Jul 28, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I know
Sorry. Still kind of pissed about Olsen. Don’t want to hear about how much someone sucks who we will probably get when we get rid of the best hands we have.
"We can do it any way you want to. We can go right out back and get it on or you can shape your ass up," Da Coach
by droppopotamus on Jul 28, 2011 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Earl Bennett says hi.
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by David Taylor on Jul 28, 2011 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok
Earl’s the man and extremely underrated. I just don’t feel Olsen came near his potential here. You’re killing me.
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by droppopotamus on Jul 28, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha.
It’s what I do. ;)
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by David Taylor on Jul 28, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Olsen...
at his best wasn’t a 60%+ reception guy…it took over 100 targets to get 600 yards out of him. I don’t hate him, but he is not the stud we dream he is. Antonio Gates, Vernon Davis, Dallas Clark, Jason Witten, Chris Cooley, Zach Miller, Tony Gonzalez, Jermichael Finley, Kellen Winslow, Owen Daniels….Olsen hasn’t touched their performances with plenty of chances.
It’d be hard to sell me that he is better than Brandon Pettigrew or a lot of the up and comers (Jermaine Gresham, Tony Moeaki, Rob Gronkowski).
Olsen is more in a grouping with guys like Ben Watson, Heath Miller, Todd Heap (last couple years, not career), Jeremy Shockey…Except they all block better than him too.
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by Brendan Hess on Jul 28, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Disagree
Olsen under Turner and Martz’ “we don’t need a catching TE offense” wasn’t in the category of those guys. You have to know how to use your talent.
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by droppopotamus on Jul 28, 2011 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe
it’s his dreamy golden locks that gets everyone. Kind of similar to this guy….
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Leave him alone.
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by jameslcrockett on Jul 28, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Click on the "up"
It’s a semi unannoying Lions fan who comes here to post and occasionally stir the pot with some jibes. Personally I’m not sure why any fan of any other team would ever post here. I just don’t get it. Unless it’s Robert Rence. He gets it completely.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
I did that...
it goes up to droppopotamus… which is why I was confused. If it were allowed to pile on the Lions fan, I would have done so… but that’s why I didn’t.
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by jameslcrockett on Jul 28, 2011 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Just worry about having a healthy Stafford this year
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
If nothing else you are good for some comic relief .
I hear the new Lions will include one of our former WR’s. Not one of the best WR’s I have seen roll through town but a stand-up guy and good citizen.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
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reply fail this was meant for DLions4Eva
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Forget the fact that we'd start calling him Dropapotamus after the first week
Roy Williams wouldn’t last 5 minutes in a Chicago press conference. Greg Olsen may have Charmin hands, but Roy Williams has a Charmin mind. The press wouldn’t be able to rip Cutler, they’d be too busy skewering Roy.
oh my God...
now it makes sense.
He’s troll bait for the media…
Anarchist. Misanthrope. Beard aficionado.
Good thing, too.
We need some troll bait to get the attention off Cutty.
Can't make up my mind
On paper, he has the skills Chicago needs. He does have the talent to be a #1 WR. He just loses concentration a lot in games. What often kills me is his lack of situational awareness. Remember when we played the Cowboys last year? Dude catches the ball 7 yards from a first down, gets held up by Moore, clearly won’t get it. Everybody knows Chicago stands up ball carriers and rips the ball out, he sees Tillman coming, who is known league wide for causing fumbles. I remember watching the game, seeing Tillman enter the frame a few yards away, and screaming “FUMBLE!!!” before it even happened, because Roy Williams refused to go down. Sorry, but that’s just PLAIN STUPID! And no excuse either. Williams played the Bears twice a year, so he of all WR’s should know better when going against the Bears and Tillman.
For the right price, it’s IMO worth the risk, although I also personally think he’s extra douchey with the first down signal after every freaking thing, even when his team is getting their butts handed to them.
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The Vikings got McNabb
the Lions got Durant, the Packers got rings, and we keep getting worse. So far we’ve lost Manning, Olsen, we might lose Adams and Kreutz, and -if we are lucky-we’ll come away from the biggest free agent frenzy in NFL history with a career disappointment.
We got outbid on Colon and Durant, didn’t come close on Babin, and didn’t even try on Sidney Rice.
This is sad.
DEJESUS!!!
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by jameslcrockett on Jul 28, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Durant and Babin
Durant is overrated, he didn’t produce much in Jax and Babin was a one year wonder.
So was Sidney Rice for that matter
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 28, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
We didn't get outbid on Colon
We offered more money but he still chose Pittsburgh. Babin’s overrated and Durant would’ve been a 2-down LB here. As for Rice, there are other WRs out there. I’m going to wait and see who the Bears get before passing judgment
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jul 28, 2011 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Well... there's more to a "bid"...
than just money. The Bears got outbid… because the Steelers are the Steelers and the Bears are really far from the Steelers. I’d like to get to the point where the best decide to play for the Bears no matter what.
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by jameslcrockett on Jul 29, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
sidney rice is overated
not worth the money…he’s only had one good year
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 29, 2011 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Piss Poor!!!
And Good Bye Rashied. Gonna have to change my name now. Well, unless we do get Williams.
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Roy is a decent WR...
if the Bears don’t have to pay too much, he’s an OK prospect. I seriously doubt he will be much better than Bennett, which is what the offense needs. IMO, Williams lacks the mental ability to be a great WR. He certainly has the physical tools, but the Bears need a better answer at WR than Williams. Personally, MSW or M Floyd have a better chance of being the guy the Bears/Cutler needs. Get any two of those guys and 3 decent O-linemen and the offense can roll. The addition of Spaeth is a good one, he’s solid and is a HUGE upgrade over Manutee!
I would sure hope so.
Manutee took sucks to a whole new level. I really hope Kellen is in the plans and gets more looks. He seems to come throught the few times he gets a shot
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by droppopotamus on Jul 28, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Davis is a better...
pass catcher than I would have thought. He’s a better blocker than the Manutee ever was, but I don’t know that he’s consistent enough (or perhaps he just is lacking in reps) to be a starter at TE even in the Martzfence. Again, Spaeth is rock solid, but had some injury/concussion issues last season. I am happy for Olsen, he’ll get a chance to start over in Carolina and I bet he plays well longer than the 3rd rounder we get next year.
Agreed
Wish him the best when they don’t play the Bears. Davis gives us the goal line threat still since he’s like 8’10". Not nearly as mobile though.
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by droppopotamus on Jul 28, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
once upon a time Manutee was a very good blocker but that was what 5 years ago.
I am glad they realized their error and let him go. Olsen wanted a pay day and the Bears decided they didn’t want to pay him what he wanted for what they intended to use him for. His agent got a chance to shop him around and this is the best deal for him. Banking a future draft pick is not a bad thing even for Jerry. I’m not sure if MSW or Floyd are better than RoyBoy but it is encouraging that they are looking to add a better WR. Losing out on Colon tells me that they are looking for help for the O-line but it takes more than money to convince a player to come to chicago. I really hope to see a couple of O-linemen coming to Chicago tomorrow. The wallet is still fat and there are still a lot of F/A’s out there that could help the Bears.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Davin Joseph
I heard a report or something that said they were trying to ship Garza out of town. I would like to seem them look at Joseph out of Tampa. He somewhat underachieved for his draft slot, but he is young and proven.
I think Joseph has resigned with the Bucs
If what you say about Garza is true, then Dahl or some other RG is who is on Jerry’s mind at this moment besides MSW and/or Roy Williams.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 28, 2011 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I´m an optimistic person..
so I hope to see plays like that from Williams in a Bears Uniform:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg9LSL_nRqU&feature=related
Dont forget that in Dallas, Williams was on a different system and Romo is not as gifted QB as Cutler..
"We didn't play our best game, and we won. That's got to be a good sign.'' - Jay Cutler
by Claudio Oliveira on Jul 28, 2011 7:35 PM CDT reply actions
ALso don't forget
that Romo is so in love with Jason Witten that he’ll throw it to him when it makes absolutely no sense.
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and Austin
Witten and Austin were his security blankets, thus he never had consistent opportunity with the ’Boys.
Kind of like Cutler to Olsen
I would argue that Cutler is more talented than Romo. Pretty even to me..
"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse
On a related note...
maybe the problem is Drake. Let’s trade Drake for a 3rd rounder. Maybe that’s the addition by subtraction axiom at work.
Agree
Not impressed and not sure why he survived the purge.
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by Brendan Hess on Jul 28, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Knox Hester and Bennett
while overlooking every failure before that including Bradley, Inglecias, Gage, Wade
"Word of advice, don’t join, Bears fans are crazy."--- D-Jackfan10
Bradley and Gage
Gage reached his potential with the Bears and Bradley killed his own Bears career after he didn’t take the steps to rehab his season ending injury during his rookie year. He was a breakout candidate that season, until the injury.
Drake also brought Berrian to stardom, look at B Squared now.
I wouldn't call 900 yards stardom
Vikings overpaid and had an even worse QB depth chart than the Bears for most of Berrians career there. And Gage didn’t come close to reaching his potential with us, his best year here was 05 with 346 yards, his best in Tennessee, 750
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Berrian and Gage
The problem with that is that Berrian was a Star, not a Superstar. He was trending up when he left the Bears.
Gage on Tennessee was a #1 receiver, his best year on the Bears was as a #3 receiver. He was better receiver on the Bears, especially in the redzone since his TD ratio was better with them than Tennessee.
I still wouldn't put Berrian in the star category
just like I wouldn’t put Johnny Knox there
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Seems like there's a missing word there...
“Mentality”.
lol at "the purge"
that’s going down in the Bears history book.
by Chitownproduct on Jul 28, 2011 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Call it...
“The Turner Purge of 2010” and file it under “Best Things Angelo Did Years Too Late” section.
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by Brendan Hess on Jul 28, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I said yes
because your poll did not imply he was a) the only wide receiver we acquire or b) the only real signing we do.
If Williams is an addition that does not deter other additions, I think its a wise move. Why not kick the tires on a former first round pick who’s best season was in the same system we run now.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
You're killing me with that horrible avatar.
I hope you look better in person.
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by David Taylor on Jul 28, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
heh
too lazy to “De-Dane” my avatar.
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by Brendan Hess on Jul 28, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
it was beginning to unnerve me thinking you guys were twins and then trying to figure out who was the good twin
so I watched the movie “Twins” and decided you were the danny devito twin, but then I started having second thoughts and …well thank jesus thats all over now.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Vincent Jackson damnit!
SD has already said they don’t want to pay him 50 million. Well he’s better than Holmes, and Holmes got that. JA should go get Jackson, and then pay him. There is no other WR that looks like a real upgrade to me. JACKSON.
Oh, and Dahl.
He has the franchise tag (2 firsts and a third rounder)
And Jerry has very little time left to snatch Dahl now that the Falcons re-signed Claybo.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 28, 2011 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Well Blalock is younger and a LG so he may be a better option than Dahl
by frenchbears113 on Jul 28, 2011 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Either way Jerry has an extremely small window to make his move with either player
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 28, 2011 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
he has till they sign with the Bears or someone else and not a minute longer
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Trade for him
I don’t just mean sign him. Trade for him. Just like with Cutler, I’m good with giving up a first rounder (JA has shown he can’t use them anyway).
Roy Williams
He’s a big target if Cutler throws at his mouth.
We don’t need a bone head like Williams in Chicago !!!!!!!!!!
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I didn't realize we had a so bad reputation..
"We didn't play our best game, and we won. That's got to be a good sign.'' - Jay Cutler
by Claudio Oliveira on Jul 28, 2011 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
As far as reputations go, the Steelers' organization is one of the best
One of their own players choosing them over us isn’t that surprising.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jul 28, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
and this "Adam Poodle" guy? is he a good punter?
"We didn't play our best game, and we won. That's got to be a good sign.'' - Jay Cutler
by Claudio Oliveira on Jul 28, 2011 8:08 PM CDT reply actions
roy williams is not a good football player. i would much rather have sims-walker, much more athletic.
skeletons don't like closets.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 28, 2011 8:15 PM CDT reply actions
Willams and Martz might get along
but I see Williams and Cutler as a couple of divas. No way it would work.
How is Cutler a diva?
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 28, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I cant lie, I am judgeing a book by it's cover.
But alot of his body language and facial expression looked like….It wasn’t my fault! Why didn’t you catch that ball I threw 5 yards behind you?
by chitownteams1 on Jul 29, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Roy Williams sucks
How is anyone OK with him joining the team?
WILDCARD BITCHES!!! YEEEEHHHAAAAA!!!!!
Have you looked at our other WRs?
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by jameslcrockett on Jul 28, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm with you, this is horrible idea
with the talent that was available this free agency class if Roy Williams is the best we can do then we just don’t get free agency. Obviously Julius Peppers last year was some kind of wierd fluke. I truly hope Williams is in addition to say Plaxico Burress or another blue chip free agent wide out. Then I would say ok, Williams is a nice 3rd option but we need a 1st option guys.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jul 28, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Williams is a head case
I don’t want head case players because when the going gets rough and believe me, in the Chicago Football market there will be blood, oh yes there will be blood. I don’t think he’s mature enough to handle the bumps and produce. I hear all the stuff about the good year in Martz’s offense and he’s tall and got it, but I just can’t get behind this move.
Just my opinion
So you're counting on Fantuz to come through in the clutch? Just sayin'
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
It will be interesting to see what he can do
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
He played well at the beginning of last season.
If he comes, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. But I’m not happy when Floyd is sitting on the market still without a team. He’s even taller than him.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jul 28, 2011 8:26 PM CDT reply actions
Roy
While I am not as excited as I would be if the Bears could have parlayed Holmes and there are other options out there, Roy is the big receiver we need to be a change of pace from our speed guys and he had a few good years with the Lions. The Cowboys were overrated and Romo preferred Austin and Witten.
Not a huge fan
but he fits the profile for what they want (size) and fits the scheme.
Someone on the offense better step up and lead this group otherwise he might turn out to be a bad acquisition. This is why I think Kreutz is coming back. He’s the guy cause I don’t see anyone else willing to do so in the manner needed.
If he’s cheap it’s not bad. .
"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse
They need Olin back
Not the time to try to remake the entire line. If they cannot bring back Kreutz and Adams we may be in trouble. Thing is, it seems like the talks have turned to the worse. Players are reporting that the Bears are jacking lots of people around.
Well
This tenured group is certainly getting that reputation now. Bunch of indecisive hacks. Too many strong opinions battling for a piece of the pie.
"Our ideas held no water but we used them like a dam" - Modest Mouse
Who are the Bears jacking around exactly?
Olin Kreutz in contract negotiations? I am curious what u mean by that.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jul 28, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
They are taking too long
They are trying to lowball Kruetz even though he is the most valuable OL on the roster right now.
Wow, I would expect the Bears to be quite generous to OK
but short term, like a 2 years deal or such. Guy is the leader of the OLine and deserves to be paid as such. That would suck if we lose Olin cause of something like this.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jul 28, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
he is not on the roster right now he is a F/A
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Olin was terrible last year
and he’s a year older now.
Terrible
Yes he certainly was, since he controls the play of the tackles and the line up adjustments that saw 7 different starters and 9 different starting combinations in the first nine weeks.
The Bears had what was most likely the worst offensive line in football last year
When you’re that bad, you have to look at everybody. Perhaps Kreutz wasn’t terrible, but he certainly wasn’t good, and at 34, he’s only going to get worse. He’s certainly not a long-term solution, so why is it so imperative to bring him back?
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jul 28, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Because he knows
the offense. If this was a full off-season they would have been more inclined to let him go, but the lockout prevents that. The line would be atrocious if they need to replace the Center since that position coordinates the line, makes protection changes, gives advice to his fellow lineman and must remember the audibles and snap signals.
A new guy is not going to be able to that in a month and 2 1/2 games of time.
Unfortunately sarcasm isn't an argument
His PFF rating was 2nd worst among starting centers last year. Olin’s played 200 NFL games, and he’s at the age where other great linemen have tailed off dramatically.
he was recovering from an Achilles tendon injury and played through it
its pretty safe to think he will be better in 2011 than he was in 2010
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
How is it safe to think that a 34-year-old player will be better?
Even if he was dinged up, the odds are pretty good that he’ll be dinged up again next year too. When players get old, their ability to recover from even minor injuries falls through the floor.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jul 28, 2011 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I said he should be better this year than last year not that he would play like he was 24 again.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Thats it
We need a time machine
"I see PRIDE, I see POWER, I see a BADASS MOTHA WHO WON'T TAKE NO CRAP OFF NOBODY!"
I need it worse that Olin does
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
I'm not saying you're absolutely wrong
Kreutz may turn it around. Or he might tweak his ankle again, or maybe his knee this time and have another miserable year. If there’s a younger capable C out there, I’d prefer to go in that direction. Unfortunately it’s hard to say what’s out there. The C market looks pretty dry (Chris Spencer being the only notable name) but it’s not impossible that the Bears try and turn one of the tackles or guards out there into one.
Pat Riley is the devil.
Is that true?
This link says he was supposed to be better in 2010 than in 2008/2009 because he was playing through the bone spurs in those seasons. He got surgery after the 2009 season and was expected to make a full recovery in the offseason.
In a vacuum I don't like it
If Roy Williams is a piece of a larger plan that it might be okay. I really hope they aren’t only going after him because “he did well with Martz” because every other year has been meh.
Well...
It’s Either Him or Mike Sims-Walker. I’d Go with Sims-Walker over Williams, but either one would still be a better receiver than any current Bears receivers
@mikecwright Filed to ESPNChicago.com (from my phone lol): #Bears in contact with Mike Sims-Walker.
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Good lets spend some loot
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jul 28, 2011 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Already made fan shot
This could mean one of two things:
1) The Bears have called it off with Roy Williams
2) The Bears are aiming to bring in 2 WRs.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 28, 2011 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
came to their senses on Williams is more like it
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jul 28, 2011 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Or thanks to Mike Sims-Walker and his small contract (described below)
- may be what the Bears aim to do.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 28, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
4) All the above
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 28, 2011 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Everyone I have late breaking news from ESPN Chicago
The Bears have contacted Mike Sims Walker and sources have stated both sides show mutual interest in each other.
Most likely it will be a small 1-2 year contract.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 28, 2011 9:47 PM CDT reply actions
Here is something interesting to consider
He doesn’t aim for a large deal, because he wants to prove himself before he earns the big bucks.
From article:
In part because of his injury history, Sims-Walker seeks a one-year deal that would allow him a chance to produce a strong 2011 showing — if he remains healthy — before returning to the market to cash in, the source said.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 28, 2011 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like ESPN Chicago has late breaking news.
hehe
My swag Jehovah's Witness dude, it never takes a holiday.
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Haha yea and it looks like I finally have found a legit article to back my claims
I shall give myself a firm pat on my back as I have a rather good feeling about this.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 28, 2011 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
If nothing else you'll sleep better :o)
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Forte considering holdout (ESPN Chi)
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The article mentioned the $30,000 fine per day of camp missed.
Yet failed to mention that if he doesn’t report within 30 days of the Bears first regular season game he misses a year accrued toward free agency. I love Forte and hope he gets paid but under the new CBA holding out is really, really stupid.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
exactly, I hope these players actually understand this new rule
Or some hearts are going to get broken
by Chitownproduct on Jul 28, 2011 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I imagine the owners added this little gem
Its the other piece to the rookie wage scale, expect there to be 2nd and 3rd year players being signifigantly underpaid due to the new wagescale and this was the owners protection from all these guys holding out after their first or second probowl season. Very smart piece of business by the owners.
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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jul 28, 2011 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
The players added their own
The rookies are now unrestricted FAs. All rookies are signed to 4 year deals with an option for a 5th for 1st rounders (Bear will never need to exercise that) and the restricted FA year limit is 3 years, so all signed rookies enter the market as UFAs.
Say it ain't so
San Francisco always has to be a pain. See Tony Parrish, Walt Harris and Lance Briggs.
Gobbilty Gook!
Flaminsham! Cronshooked! Blistengooken!
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
Harry Potter is that you?
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Lmao at the Poll
I remember it was 30/60 something earlier ago.
by Dominique Blanton on Jul 29, 2011 1:02 AM CDT reply actions
I'd be upset if Williams was the ONLY WR move the Bears made.
If they pick up one of Floyd or MSW (there might be a couple more names to add in there that I’m not thinking of) in addition to Williams, I’m fine with the move.
It puts Williams on the outside, where I think he’d be most comfortable.
It leaves Bennett on the inside, as he’s shown that he doesn’t pick up multiple positions particularly quickly.
It lets Hester be a full time KR/PR, which can only be a good thing.
It lets Knox switch off between KR2 and WRFly (yes, that’s a made-up term). It wasn’t all that long ago that special teams utilized multiple KRs in a formation, and having Knox and Hester line up on the numbers would be something akin to a Twin Dragons approach, especially if one of them learns how to block correctly.
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