Late Night Free Agency Chicago Bears open thread
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 29, 2011 10:13 PM CDT
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The Chicago Bears had a busy day. All their draft picks are now in the fold. They re-upped with a couple of their own free agents, for eleven overall, and Matt Forte plans on being in training camp. Reports are that Jerry Angelo assured Forte that a new deal will get done. After the jump I'll blockquote their moves from chicagobears.com;
Within a short timeframe, the Bears agreed to terms with 11 free agents and all five of their draft picks. The free agents include two of their own defensive starters in tackle Anthony Adams and linebacker Nick Roach.
Those from other teams are receivers Roy Williams (Cowboys) and Sam Hurd (Cowboys), tight end Matt Spaeth (Steelers), punter Adam Podlesh (Jaguars) and defensive end Vernon Gholston (Jets).The Bears also agreed to terms with fullback Will Ta’ufo’ou, restricted free agent quarterback Caleb Hanie and two exclusive free agents, running back Kahlil Bell and offensive lineman Edwin Williams.
I'm not seeing a new offensive lineman on that list... All the speculation points to the Bears being active in the secondary free agent market.
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I'm confused as to the distinction.
Wouldn’t the “biggest” signing be either the one that will make the most impact or the most expensive one? (Which, IIRC, would be Willliams in both cases.)
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Gholston is the biggest free agent that wasn't a prior Bear.
He’s 6’4", 258 lbs.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jul 29, 2011 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Disagree
Being a decoy is not as good as helping out your most valuable defensive players.
Gholston can impact the entire defense. He would help Peppers and that would help the secondary. And Spaeth is actually the biggest.
Correct
Spaeth is 6’7" 270 pounds.
And Gholston is returning to the system that made him a star in college, coming in as a 3rd down pass rusher could pay off in spades for the Bears.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 29, 2011 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Eh, sue me. Was going to bed.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jul 30, 2011 6:32 AM CDT up reply actions
The Bears pretty much have 4 things to do before rock'n'roll time
1- Resign Olin Kruetz and Corey Graham.
2- Sign a guard, Blalock being the best option right now.
3- Add linebacker depth, which also helps out special teams.
4- Pursue Richard Marshall (Panthers) and maybe add some safety depth?
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
Agreed
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 29, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Likes it , but ....
….. Brian Waters , Derrick Dockery Evan Mathis Jacob Bell , Jamal Brown , Ryan Harris , Nick Kazur , Matt Light , Jonathan Goodwin , Samson Satele , Max Jean Giles , Chris Spencer , Stacy Andrews , Nick Cole , Vince Manuwai , Doug Legursky or Justin Smiley would be OK as well on the line .
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 29, 2011 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I'm not overly concerned .
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 29, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Also Jared Gaither hasn't got a contract with the Raiders ...... Yet .
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 29, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Rec'd
so people who complain about how the Bears haven’t signed an O-lineman can see just how many are available.
by zoltarian1114 on Jul 29, 2011 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not about how many guys are left
You also have to consider that training camp has already started, and the faster our guys can come in, the better.
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
by GriggsBriggs on Jul 30, 2011 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Bell, 'Lock, Waters, Brown, Andrews or Light
All have the pedigree and history as performers on teams like the Pats, Colts, Eagles, Saints and Chiefs. Brown is the youngest, while Bell and Light are the most consistent.
Waters has the lowest upside, Andrews the longest drop off and Brown the most inconsistent.
"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.
Half of the people you want
suck and are not as good as the ones I listed.
I actually listed reasons behind why we should take them, unlike you.
"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.
Yeah depth isn't the issue
We have enough guys; the issue is whether or not 2 of them are starter-quality.
Pat Riley is the devil.
Chris Harris and...
Major Wright has been tabbed as starter quality. BTW, we have 5 safeties. 4 Free Safeties and 1 Strong safety.
The problem is KR. Knox can’t do it and Manning is gone. Hester could shift their but he isn’t as effective.
"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.
Why will Hester not be effective?
In all likelihood he’ll get far fewer snaps at WR this year, so he should be able to focus on returning both kicks and punts.
Pat Riley is the devil.
He is a talent
but returning kicks is much different for various reasons.
The Kick return, without the wedge is essentially sending your returner to smack into a brick wall. His history shows that, while he is a good returner, he excels more on the Punt return. Blocking and running lanes are different. There is also the new rule that gives Hester less space to operate.
I would rather see a Jerry Azumah/Brian Mitchell type come in to do the KR, a straight line running back type returner that has the leg strength to break tackles and head upfield than a shiftier, finesse returner. If he doesn’t dance, he would be good.
Hester’s heart isn’t into KoR as much as PR.
"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.
with the rule changes for kick offs
wont there be more knees taken anyways, making this a moot point?
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Hah, about 80-70%
Will still be playable, it is a five yard difference.
"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.
Hester and Knox are fine, although it's not suggested they always do it
Graham is pretty quick… Perhaps they can use K/PR duties from time to time as an incentive to sign him, and see how he does?
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
by GriggsBriggs on Jul 30, 2011 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions
So you want 2 of our three
best receivers to risk it on the most dangerous play in the game?
Graham is not going to do it since Toub would prefer him as a blocker.
It needs to be an outside hire or risk Hester, and his lack of interest in KR, on KR.
"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.
and to add to that
Major Wright missed most of last year due to injury… not sure im comfortable with him being our starter… IJS
I respect your OPINION but i also value the FACTS, To save time, lets just ASSume IM NEVER WRONG
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Jul 30, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
not as effective as a KR? LMAO
Remember back in.. uhm 07 i htink… Against the Rams… 2 kickoff return TDs in one game..
I'll roll up
That was one game
against one of the worst special teams units in the league back then.
He has four career KO TDs, all before the 08 season, yet he has 10 PR tds….His averages from 08-10 were 21 yards per, well below Manning and Knox’s averages.
Your chuckle is pretty invalid.
"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.
So..
If Harris and/or Wright go down with a injury you’re good with Bullocks and Steltz? I’m not.
by boondock_saint812 on Jul 30, 2011 1:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Bullocks is gone.
"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.
Guards we have.
But who to plug in at right tackle? Webb nearly got Cutler killed last year, and he’s not going to suddenly develop the quickness to deal with speed off the edge.
All things considered, this was a productive first official day for free agency.
The Bears managed to:
-Move on from trying to make Greg Olsen work in the scheme and adequately replaced his production with the Roy Williams signing, plus a first round pick.
-Signed Matt Spaeth, so him and Davis should be an improved blocking tandem.
-Signed all their rookies.
-Signed what appears to be an improvement over Brad Maynard, at least in power.
-Signed an improvement over Rashied Davis.
-Sign Roach and AA, the two defensive players we really needed back.
I would have loved to see Kruetz get re-signed and Justin Blalock brought into the fold, but he’s still out there and Jacob Bell was released so there’s quality out there. Hopefully the O-line will be much improved by this time tomorrow.
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Err, third round pick for Olsen.
Also forgot to mention Vernon Gholston, who we’re definitely picking up at the right time, if there is one.
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by badsamaritan on Jul 29, 2011 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh didn't you hear?
This was the worst free agency period ever and Jerry Angelo should be drawn and quartered.
My swag Jehovah's Witness dude, it never takes a holiday.
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by Kev H on Jul 29, 2011 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Silly me, I forgot about the part where we're entitled to everything we want happening immediately.
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by badsamaritan on Jul 29, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Rec'd
I can actually sense your frustration and growing likelihood of a brain hemorrhage through your comments.
The stupidity of many commenters on here is getting to you, isn’t it? Maybe you need to take a WCG break and talk to some rational, logic people for a while bud….
Jay Cutler is still my quarterback.
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by Sam Householder on Jul 29, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
You're probably right, I've spent way too much time on this site the past few days.
Just been so excited about football really started I haven’t want to pay attention to much else.
I think I’ll head to a bar.
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by badsamaritan on Jul 29, 2011 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Well I was talking to Kev
You’re being very rational as well.
I’ve spent almost all of my downtime the last several days on here, I’m with you, I’ve been so excited for football I haven’t cared about anything else.
And now training camp is starting? I feel like a kid on the night before Christmas, I’m not going to sleep!!!
Jay Cutler is still my quarterback.
Formerly GallopingGhost
by Sam Householder on Jul 29, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I feel like a kid on Christmas morning...
And with only a few gifts left to unwrap, I still haven’t gotten anything I wanted.
Let him get burned out.
Live in the threads for a while. You’ll get numb too.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
not sure how
you could be happy with this so far. We are a worse team than we were last year, and last year we only achieved our record through pretty good fortune.
DEJESUS!!!
by tomas21 on Jul 29, 2011 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
we are worse than we were last year?
why? because Aromatheropy is in Minny and Charmin is in Carolina? or was Manning holding the sky up?
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--Doug Plank
Manning was holding the sky up .... Danm we suck now ....... /sarc
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 29, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Manning was rated
as one of the top safeties in the NFL last year. We also lost Greg Olsen, who was one of our top receiving targets. We also don’t yet have Kreutz.
We are also playing against a lot of teams that got incrementally better, and we didn’t. That makes us relatively worse.
We also aren’t likely to have the same string of health or miraculous schedule like we did last year, which makes us less likely to win as many games.
DEJESUS!!!
We didn't get better?
Paea instead of Harris? Camiri instead of Omiyale? Not using Spaeth instead of not using Olsen? Roy Williams instead of Devin Hester? A punter who actually has a leg?
Yes, we lost Manning, which is regrettable, but then, we did draft two safeties in the last two years. You don’t draft a third rounder for depth. I really like Conte the more I look, and for all of the surprise he was to us, Angelo went personally to eight games to scout him. And Wright was a guy we were all high on when he was drafted.
They resigned AA and Edwin Williams (who i think is the only linemen Chicago had last year with a positive rating and was the only interior line prospect that I thought was worth keeping).
I mean if…..ouch…..wait, wha?….was that a piece of the sky falling? Damn, move over dude and let me in!
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 30, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kellen Davis is a better option to explore than Olsen.
Nine receptions last year? 3 TDs. Check out his highlight reel on YT, very impressive when you see his work spliced together. Big 3rd and 4th down moves. Very focussed in traffic, great hands and size. I love the guy.
It could be worse...
If we were the bengals. Wowzers.
by Minds_Eye024 on Jul 29, 2011 11:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You don't think the Browns are shaking in their boots about facing Bruce Gradkowski in Week 1?
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If they have Cedric Bunson, the Browns should be.
"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.
Last thoughts of the night for me
1) The 90th roster spot is being held for Kreutz, I can feel it. It’s almost like JA is doing it symbolically like “Hey we’ll get it done”
2) Is it bad that I got like little-kid-at-Christmas excited when I scrolled through the last thread and saw Training Camp press conferences. Finally, fuckin’ FINALLY we have real live football talk about football, not “Lovie Smith at a Bulls game saying he hopes the owners and players get a CBA done before August” but real live “Jay Cutler giving his throughts on the season” and “Lovie saying Jay is in the best shape of his life.”
AAAAAHHH I’m SO excited. Football is here, it’s real, I could almost cry!!! This crazy fun week of offseason has been just the thing I needed to get over the lockout and now with real, actual training camp too?! It’s like the cherry on top of the fuckin’ pancake sundae that is this awesome NFL season!
Jay Cutler is still my quarterback.
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by Sam Householder on Jul 29, 2011 10:26 PM CDT reply actions
I don't think we need to worry about us having 90 players
37 will be cut anyways so if we need to make room to add a good player, then we shall cut someone(s) and sign said player.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 29, 2011 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Well I'm not worried
I was just saying, to me, that it seems like the most insignificant spot is being held open because it’s like JA is saying “Anyone who takes the spot right now will be immediately cut as soon as Kreutz or some other signing is in the fold so I’ll just hold it for now.”
Jay Cutler is still my quarterback.
Formerly GallopingGhost
by Sam Householder on Jul 29, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
For a 1st official day its been a rather solid first day
And as stated in my post even if we have 89/90 players only 53 are going to be on the final roster, that out of the 90 whomever we signed 37 will get cut. So if the Bears see someone they want to add in particular a Guard then simply cut someone that is doomed from the beggining and sign your guy!
Its not the end of FA, and there are still a good chunk of available O-Lineman out there for us to sign with our still massive cap space, no one we signed today is commanding a high salary.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 29, 2011 10:30 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
All the Bears have done is sign guys that fit and have performed in their system. No real risk guys, unlike the Iggles, Skins and Pats, among many other teams.
Although the Pats come up gold a LOT.
Funny that you bring up the Pats striking gold
As I’m going to compare our signing of Roy Williams to the trade back in 2007 where a disgruntled WR in Randy Moss went to the Pats for a very low price and “kaboom!” he was a star once more.
We didn’t even surrender a draft pick, and Roy Williams is only getting paid for one season. If he returns to stardom in a similar fashion to what Randy Moss did in New England, we have ourselves a hell of a football player for Cutler to bomb it to.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 29, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Me likey ^^^
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 29, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
He made Brandon Marshall a star
Why not be able to return someone like Roy Williams back to stardom?
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 29, 2011 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
hahahahahahaha
He made Brandon Marshall a star
forgive my laughter but i think you only watch chicago sports if you made a comment like that… I love Jay Cutler been a fan of his since Vandy… Brandon Marshall made him look better
I respect your OPINION but i also value the FACTS, To save time, lets just ASSume IM NEVER WRONG
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Jul 30, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
They made eachother better
lets leave it at that
"I see PRIDE, I see POWER, I see a BADASS MOTHA WHO WON'T TAKE NO CRAP OFF NOBODY!"
Not really
Cutler is still performing well while Marshall has fallen into the Bermuda Triangle in Miami.
"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.
Let's be fair here.
Cutler isn’t performing at the level he did then, not even close, and Marshall has nobody throwing him the ball. Without a quarterback, even the best receiver is rendered useless.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 30, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
This↑
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 30, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
The reason..
Cutler loved olsen so much was because he was the Brandon Marshall he had in Denver…. the guy he could just throw the ball up to and know he would catch it no matter how poor the throw was… Brandon Marshall does the same thing on Miami with noone throwing it to him… IJS
I respect your OPINION but i also value the FACTS, To save time, lets just ASSume IM NEVER WRONG
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Jul 31, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Can't really compare Moss to Williams...
Moss was a true-blue super stud WR who went into a small rut in Oakland. Williams has pretty much been a disappointment since he was picked.
I don't see how
his numbers in Detroit were a disappointment, especially since he was the only weapon on that team for the duration. He isn’t Moss, but he had a better past than Marshall did in Denver.
Moss also had Chris Carter, several tight ends, Michael Bennett,and Robert Smith not to mention Randall Cunningham and Culpepper. He had weapons and quarterbacks to help him where Williams didn’t. Which is why he failed in Oakland, Vikings II and Titans.
Who knows what would have happened in Detriot if he had a competent QB and a RB.
"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.
Matt Millens fault, not Roy Williams' fault. Williams couldn't exactly teach Millen how to draft, you know, linemen....
Williams numbers in Detroit were very good, especially considering the circumstances he was playing under.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 30, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
That was in response to the "only weapon" bit.
Just stating that they had plenty of weapons, but nobody to shoot them. They had tons of bullets, but no gun to fire them.
4 receivers
Charles Rodgers (druggie), Mike Williams out of shape bum, Megatron was drafted the year Williams left and I do not remember the so called fourth 1st rounder.
"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.
Sorry, my mistake.
My memory isn’t particularly fantastic on early-2000s draft picks in general. I thought there was more than just those 3 guys. The point still stands. Talented bullets. No guns.
That would be Williams himself.
The 4th #1.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
Agree
If we sign at least one ONE guard. I mean come on, is it too much to ask? OR maybe MAYBE the whole U S of A is crazy and the Bears actually had the BEST line last year. OR all of last years backups are going to have an epiphany this year OR OR OR Sobs
Anyone know where I can find an updated and reliable reliable depth chart projection?
The lockout seems to have dulled my memory a touch.
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Excellent, thanks!
So is the Roy Williams deal not official yet, or has the site just not updated?
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Ohh hell no Williams is a Bear .
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 29, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I even have a fanshot with the article confirming it is official
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 29, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Not been updated
It is missing guys like this new fullback with an unpronounceable name and Gholston at end.
Lol
What is it with them picking up guys who’s names look like a two year old had a seizure at a typewriter?
by edenburnz on Jul 29, 2011 11:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
will t
is what i call him has been cut by us before ijs
I respect your OPINION but i also value the FACTS, To save time, lets just ASSume IM NEVER WRONG
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Jul 30, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
if a seizure is involved...
why does it need to be a two year old?
by GtM on Jul 29, 2011 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cuz I don't know any adults that play with a typewriter
Question..mark? Lol
by edenburnz on Jul 29, 2011 11:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
but then...
how would a two yearold get a typewriter.. i mean i havent even seen one in over a decade… ya know what never mind.. this is gonna get to deep, im gonna let this lay…
I have a nice like new manual typewriter we could talk about.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Can circa 1920's be considered 'like new' ?
;)
by edenburnz on Jul 30, 2011 1:35 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It looks like and works like it did when it was new
the case is a little battered and ribbons are hard to get but hey
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i love my old manual.....
I had to learn how to re-ink the ribbons myself, though. Pretty easy.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 30, 2011 4:20 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah it counts as 'like new'
cause they stopped making them in the 20’s so there are no newer ones right? lol
You clearly haven't seen me at work.
Yes, we do have a typewriter.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jul 30, 2011 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm feelin pretty good
bout JA right now. like the gholston move, Im okay with giving Roy williams a shot. I am surprised that Olsen only went for a third rounder, but whatev… maybe a lineman at some point? but its lookin good so far. im getting excited bout being the first team to go 19-0 this year.
I leave earlier today seeing people want Angelo's head
and I come back 12 hours later to see people saying good things. I like it.
I scanned through every comment...
From the last few “open threads” and not heard this…. Apparently Carimi is starting at left tackle to open camp.
also…. new punter apparently runs a 4.4…. and has “great hands” according to Toub… uh oh.(Jim Rome style)
That'd be interesting to watch
Leagues best punt… receiver?!?
by edenburnz on Jul 30, 2011 12:42 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Kicking team's ball
I would think it plays like an Onside kick.
"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.
It's been downed by that team.
The other team gets the ball at that spot.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
Haven't you guys ever watched a punt roll?
The punting team can’t advance the ball on a punt. There is no on-side punting formation.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
James Jones wouldn't be a bad pickup
The guy has loads of talent..Just needs to hold onto the ball at crucial moments
Gholston is a huge gamble
My sister who lives in NYC says he sucks terribly. But we will see, I guess the Bears can treat him as an undrafted rookie.
The reason he was terrible
is because he was out of position. At Ohio State, he played a 4-3 DE. The Jets drafted him as a 3-4 OLB. If anybody can get him to produce, it’s Rod Marinelli. And as you stated, this will be a low risk and very high reward kind of situation.
Honestly, I'm not happy at all right now...
The Bears Number 1 priority - and I mean number 1 BY FAR- coming into free agency was to improve the offensive line.
At this point we have done nothing INCLUDING re-signing Kreutz.
If I had to grade the Bears moves thus far I’d give them a D-.
Resigning Roach, Adams is fine but the complete failure to make even one move on the O Line spells failure to me.
This could change with even just one move but up to now, we haven’t seen it.
Don't have to...
but I just did. What’s your point? You are fine with the O line we’re kicking off camp with? Are you fine kicking off the season with that too?
We have plent of time and plenty of options
Kreutz is imperative, but other line spots have lot of options.
"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.
Fari enough...
But as it stands now, the grade is very close to fail. You could mark it an incomplete I suppose but no way can we be happy with the lack of progress on the OL
F+?
I dont think they’re done shopping. They’ve done a fantastic job of keeping literally everyone in the dark so far on everything else they’ve done.
Theres still hope.
by firebirdsix7 on Jul 30, 2011 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions
This years 'big splash' will be JA not entirely messing up in FA.
I don’t like JA.. Never have, an ya I’ve been a lil ticked about how he’s handled FA this year, however the more I look into the choices he’s made this year the more an more I like them. I’m not doing cart wheels down the street or anything but I feel he gave the fans what they wanted in a bigger WR while pleasing Martz. The UDFA corps, while mostly just roster bodies, does have a few potential gems. Between draft picks/free agents they strengthened the depth of the team some. And there is still time to acquire a few last min pickups for the O-line
by edenburnz on Jul 30, 2011 1:32 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I will copy and paste another post(which you could have read above) showing available o-line
Brian Waters , Derrick Dockery Evan Mathis Jacob Bell , Jamal Brown , Ryan Harris , Nick Kazur , Matt Light , Jonathan Goodwin , Samson Satele , Max Jean Giles , Chris Spencer , Stacy Andrews , Nick Cole , Vince Manuwai , Doug Legursky or Justin Smiley
Ya, plenty of options left.
by zoltarian1114 on Jul 30, 2011 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I was mainly just being snarky for the hell of it.
But it’s also worth pointing out that the season doesn’t start tomorrow.
Pat Riley is the devil.
Technically it started yesterday..
just joshin..
Adrian Pedestrian!! Now that's funny Mr. Bayless...
No minimum spending limit till 2013?
I didn’t realize. I was assuming that was part of the hysteria to spend. Guess no need to rush to sign players after all.
by Minds_Eye024 on Jul 30, 2011 1:41 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Actually there sort of is
NFL pledged to commit 90% of the cap this off-season and a hard floor comes into effect in 20-13.
So there is a floor all teams must reach, but it isn’t league penalty enforced.
"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.
OMG! Jerry Angelo SUX!
He’s been doing nothing but sitting on his thumbs! He hasn’t even triedto sign a kinsman, he brings in a washed up never-was of a receiver, trades away Greg Olden for a third round pick he probably will spend on Garrett Wolfe and Michael Okwo’s love child and he hasn’t even tried to get the bears a offensive kinsmen. He also resigned QQ when he’s nothing more than a mediocre tackle who does nothing to help Peppers.
SOMEBODY PLEASE FIRE THIS IDIOT!
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 30, 2011 3:37 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
nope......
None at all. But I’m willing to bet that most of the regulars to this site know exactly what I did.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 30, 2011 3:52 AM CDT up reply actions
but thanks anyways....
Because your reply perfectly illustrated the other extreme. Fan is taken from fanatic, I guess.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 30, 2011 3:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually he does, as much as most us , anyway.
by transylvanian bear on Jul 30, 2011 6:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Or......
Angelic hasn’t broadcast every movehe’s attempted, resigned one of the best and most underrated ETa in the league, brought in a big receiver that Margaret is comfortable with and who won’t lose time in a lockout shortened offseason trying to learn Madras’s offense, got mearket value for a TE Martz refused to use, and signed a first round talent that was noted as being a bad 3-4 fit in nearly every detailed scouting report available to add to the Bears 4-3 line that he was built for.
I am stunned by the amount of “sky is falling” type posts on these open threads today.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 30, 2011 3:51 AM CDT up reply actions
damned phone auto-correct......
Angelo not angelic……
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 30, 2011 3:54 AM CDT up reply actions
And who the hell is Madra?
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by Steven Schweickert on Jul 30, 2011 7:00 AM CDT up reply actions
My HTC's idea of Martz
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 30, 2011 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions
and the bearw were linked....
To a couple of kinsmen today, including Colon. Unfortunately, there are other GMs who want these players to. It’s not like all of this is happening on a vacuum.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 30, 2011 3:58 AM CDT up reply actions
why....
Does th ac on my phone want to make linemen into kinsmen? I wish I knew how to turn it off, LOL.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 30, 2011 4:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I've got settings - keyboard - a/c
But you’re on blackberry so no clue.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jul 30, 2011 6:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Nope....
On an HC Evo 3D. Notice I said “new” phone. :)
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 30, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions
And at least it wasn't klansmen, that'd be worthy of DYA submission.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jul 30, 2011 6:55 AM CDT up reply actions
LMAO!
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1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 30, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions
i thought u were australian...
Kinsman sounds cooler anyway
by Ryan21 on Jul 30, 2011 8:57 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
lol.
Yeah, unfortunately, it doesn’t exactly convey the message I wanted to sent, though.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 30, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
YES IT IS
EVERY TEAM EXISTS TO HELP THE BEARS
WE CAN GET ANYONE WE WANT
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by Steven Schweickert on Jul 30, 2011 6:53 AM CDT up reply actions
That wasn't part of the...
NEW CBA????
Section 203 paragraph 3:
“…and the disciples of Ditka shall have not their FA signings questioned or spoiled in any manner.”
by LostInSTL on Jul 30, 2011 7:08 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
No, that's from the Book of Ditka.
The CBA, different thing entirely.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jul 30, 2011 7:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.. remember where the Bears are...
They had low body count drafts the last few years. They also had a low body count FA period last year because they went “BIG”. At some point you need to stockpile players. So maybe the whole value driven FA play this year and the unrestricted rookies is a way for the team to get younger and better at the same time.
No big names isn’t a problem. Marrinelli has guys he likes, Tice has guys he likes (and will most likely get a few more.. Jay Cutler will be much better this year. Real good possibility that our #1 receiver from last year is now our #3. How about that?
oh, and the autocorrect on my new ohone sux too.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jul 30, 2011 4:15 AM CDT up reply actions
phone*
;)
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 30, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Well. Damn. Done.
Rec’d for excellence in sarcasm.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jul 30, 2011 6:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually, wow, double level there!
Ironic sarcasm. I think my head just exploded.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jul 30, 2011 6:52 AM CDT up reply actions
ahh, a new day...
and with it comes a renwed sense of optimism
by IndyBearsFan88 on Jul 30, 2011 6:51 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Lots of unanswered questions...
About Ghoulston. Just like RE Williams, the investment should be minimal. Not real confident that the Bears are great at resurrecting guys like these. Also, why no interior O-linemen??? Isn’t that the biggest offensive problem! I’m on the road (family vacation), so i have only mobile access this morning. I really hate these tiny keypads!
by LostInSTL on Jul 30, 2011 7:01 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Finally!
I can participate! Just like people say all the time, long time reader, first time poster: yea, thats me today. lol. But I’ve been coming here for two seasons and during all of this free agency craze, I don’t think there will ever be a better time to get involved. This is is my #1 bears site. Great information and most of you guys are hilarious. Im sad to say Manu go for the simple fact that he created the best jokes. lol. But anyways guys, whats up!
Whats up welcome to WCG!
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 30, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Hello Bears Fans
Quick intro and kudos. Bears fan since birth -1961. Live in Washington DC area. Get back to a game per year. Direct TV NFL Ticket Addict.
This FA period had me looking for Chicago Bears Blogs for the first time ever. Normally the news gets to me quick enough on the Sun-Times or the Trib. Looked at 5 or 6. The worst was the one at www.cbssportsline.com (whining and whining about not getting the top 5 WRs.. clearly a fantasy league sort of group). Found this blog and see a good balance of comments by bloggers. (more positive and insightful, than simply “Fire Angelo”).
So thanks.
We have our fair share of meatballs, don't worry.
This particular week has seen most of them come out. Letem troll, bitch, and hold their little whine and cheese parties in peace, and you’ll find some gems in here. Enjoy!
Now carry my bags, rook!
by Doshi on Jul 30, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
sup man
maybe we can road trip to one or two. i live in baltimore so im not far, you drive one i drive one…
I respect your OPINION but i also value the FACTS, To save time, lets just ASSume IM NEVER WRONG
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Jul 30, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll recommend your posts instead
Thanks for the welcome. The lockout sucked. But I am enjoying the compressed free agency. Can’t wait to see how the roster comes together. Hated to lose Olsen. But it’s a move that makes sense. I hope he does well. He was in a tough spot last year, and he manned up. Played FB, got better at blocking, lots of guys would have complained a lot.
Excited about all of it. New WRs, New DTs, New DEs, New OL. More experienced Cutler .. (he went to the Pro-bowl the only other time he ran the same offense 2 years in a row).
Bingo!
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jul 30, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
was his nameo
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
im slow sometimes
lol i meant to post this in this thread but i was rushing and posted it in the thread i wrote it in i just wanted feedback on it maybe im missing something and wanted some clarity for real
I respect your OPINION but i also value the FACTS, To save time, lets just ASSume IM NEVER WRONG
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Jul 30, 2011 1:05 PM CDT reply actions
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