Take A Deep Breath: Giants Defeat Bears 41-13
The key number to take away from the Bears 41-13 loss to the Giants is one. That's one sack the Bears allowed in the first half with the starting offensive line. If only we could say everything else with the Bears was as rosy. If there was ever a "team loss," this was it - pass protection and Jay Cutler's play were probably the only high points of the night.
Spencer Lanning had a punt blocked and returned to the five yard line. Roy Williams dropped a first down catch and left the game without catching any of the three balls thrown at him. Even kick coverage was lax tonight as Devin Thomas reeled off a pair of long ones. Quick numbers after the jump.
Jay Cutler: 12/21 - 171 yards
Marion Barber: 13 carries - 49 yards
Kahlil Bell: 4 carries - 10 yards, TD
Devin Hester: 3 receptions - 46 yards
Earl Bennett: 3 receptions - 58 yards
Dane Sanzenbacher: 4 receptions - 34 yards
David Carr: 9/11 - 84 yards, 2 TD, 138.1 Passer Rating. (That. Just. Happened.)
Brandon Jacobs, Da'Rel Scott, Danny Ware: 13 carries, 168 yards, 3 TD
Jonathan Goff: 1 Sack
Take a deep breath. It's only preseason. And we had no additional injuries. Talk about it.
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Atlanta is gonna whoop our butts
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
What the faluggin?
Get the hell off this forum. If “Matty Ice” ever romps over our Chicago Bears I swear I will pour an entire Victory 12 beer over my Hester jersey.
Cut that crap out and believe in your team damnit.
Bear down Chicago!
Give it up for the boys in blue, USAF
Throwing burning squirrels since 2010!
by Jonathan Thompson on Aug 22, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Correct me if I'm wrong...
Didn’t he do that his first year in the NFL?
by MidwayMonster55 on Aug 23, 2011 5:59 AM CDT up reply actions
No, you're thinking Squib-Hell.
I think he means “Romp” as in dominated start-to-finish.
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 23, 2011 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions
You realize its just preseason , right ?
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Aug 23, 2011 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions
No injuries. Best result for the Bears.
Just Dave (on possible new OL signings): JaMarcus Russell. He's been standing in front of better quarterbacks his entire career.
Best stat of the night...
I live in NJ and listening to the radio now. All the talk is about Terrell Thomas. The Giant fan base can care less about the score.
line was better
Get used to Hester & Bennett making our catches for us.
4 most disappointing plays:
Roy Williams bobble on 3rd and 15 in the 1st
Roy Williams reaching whiff on 3rd and 5 in the 1st
Devin Hester tripping on the wide open TD pass in the flat
Devin Hester dropping the ball on the goalline on the same drive
Cutler picked and made good throws. Line was moderately better against a dominate D-Line.
Hope the whole team gets over the drops and stumbles, one of these days years.
Toub better get up in someone’s butt about the ST play.
The starting defense played fine, so I don’t care about the massive amounts of points ST and backups cost us.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
Starting D was lazy and got run over
No pass rush outside of peppers..
We are serving up Carimi Pancakes!!
your middle name must be blind!
The starting D, including Toeina and Melton were getting pressure a lot while they were in there. Just cause you dont see the sack numbers doesnt mean pressure wasnt there.
How about a Carimi pancake for your A$$
How about all the non holding calls on the Giants? Almost every snap their oline was holding someone on our dline and they got away with it every time
by frenchbears113 on Aug 23, 2011 7:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought I was seeing things
lots of hands wrapped up in jerseys and stuff…there were quite a few holding calls that went uncalled, for sure.
Thank the new referee placement for that one.
Last year, they had two refs in the offensive backfield for most of the game. During the 2 Minute Warning, one of them went into the area that the LBs generally occupy.
This year, they moved that second backfield ref into the defensive secondary.
Honestly, I always think that more COMPETENT refs is a good thing, and I don’t understand why the NFL won’t add more guys to the field. Then again, I don’t really understand why Soccer only has 3 refs on their much larger pitches.
One actual ref and two line judges.
Fewer people means more consistent calls in game, as opposed to, say, one guy calling every ticky-tack thing versus one guy who wants to let them play. Least that’s the best I can come up with.
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 23, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
One overseer and use of a computer?
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 23, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s not the most difficult of sports, either. In/out. Hit the net/didn’t hit the net.
When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm putting u between me and an ass.
And it's one-on-one or, at worst, two-on-two.
No contact fouls, pushing, shoving, et cetera…
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 23, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Success
Preseason game+no major injuries=success
by Guancous on Aug 22, 2011 10:32 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I really like Jay Cutler.
An simple statement, yes, but true nonetheless. Is it just me or did his face look thinner?
Q: Who is playing you in the movie about the ESPN book? I think it should be Adam Sandler — you both peaked 12 years ago.
— Timmy, Winchester, MA
- Simmons Mailbag, 8/5/11
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 22, 2011 10:33 PM CDT reply actions
it does
he cut weight in the off season
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
by Bear Lovin 21 on Aug 22, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
He looks more handsome now
even if he sounds like an extra from Leave It To Beaver.
Q: Who is playing you in the movie about the ESPN book? I think it should be Adam Sandler — you both peaked 12 years ago.
— Timmy, Winchester, MA
- Simmons Mailbag, 8/5/11
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 22, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
It helps his offensive line pass block. They don’t want his more handsome face ruined.
Just Dave (on possible new OL signings): JaMarcus Russell. He's been standing in front of better quarterbacks his entire career.
Indeed.
I noticed the difference today!
Q: Who is playing you in the movie about the ESPN book? I think it should be Adam Sandler — you both peaked 12 years ago.
— Timmy, Winchester, MA
- Simmons Mailbag, 8/5/11
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 22, 2011 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Also remember the
1/5 in redzone
hell even if we kick field goals its 25 to 41
then there is the fluke 97 yard run
alotta bad tonight but there is some good
Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.
O-Line looked good thats plus and so did cutler
I should say starters look good first quater then things git iffy oh well its pre season.
Who started on the O line?
"I see PRIDE, I see POWER, I see a BADASS MOTHA WHO WON'T TAKE NO CRAP OFF NOBODY!"
Same as last game
JWebb – CWilliams – Garza – Louis – Carimi…..
The next time you decide to stab me in the back, have the guts to do it to my face....
- Calab Hanie to mike martz
by CloudyFuture on Aug 22, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Played into the
3rd qtr as well…..
The next time you decide to stab me in the back, have the guts to do it to my face....
- Calab Hanie to mike martz
by CloudyFuture on Aug 22, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Think this shows
that the Bears depth is not all the great…..Especially at LB….DLine took a step back when Peppers left…..RWilliams (still) cant catch…..Taylor done….Still think Enderle will be #2 some point in the season…..
While OLine looked a little better they still gave up pressure…..QB moving around saved some sacks IIRC…..
The next time you decide to stab me in the back, have the guts to do it to my face....
- Calab Hanie to mike martz
this is what I was thinking
as soon as he gave up the blocked punt
Checking out my sprunjer?
by Chicago Faithful on Aug 23, 2011 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Isn't the QB
supposed to be able to move a little bit to help the line/get the throw off?
last year, he Jay didn’t even have the chance to do that because there was hardly any pocket formed around him. I think the Oline was noticeably better
Checking out my sprunjer?
by Chicago Faithful on Aug 23, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Not only no injuries but
Solid improvement on the line. Care.
Cutler making good throws, good decisions, no picks. Care
NO INJURIES!!!! Care.
Score? Don’t care.
Punt block from a punter who is going to get cut via a hole from a special teamer that will get cut? Don’t care.
Backup QB? Don’t care.
5th & 6th receivers, fourth string tight ends? Don’t care.
Undrafted free agents with very little chance of playing anywhere other than a practice squad? Don’t care.
Bottom line. At the end of this game would you rather be the Giants with a meaningless win and some domination by your second string plus a lot of guys who are not going to make your team AND lose your number one safety, or us… who lost a meaningless game but showed major improvement in our biggest weakness area and had no injuries.
Us hands down.
I do think special teams is something to worry about.
17'$ h4pp3n1n9!?!?!?
by lexmarklover on Aug 22, 2011 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't think his decision making was that great
There was the sack he took (I think if it was regular season he would’ve thrown it away).
There were a couple of times he felt the pressure in the back (good) but then stepped right up into the pressure, and got lucky that Devin Hester knocked the ball down when he threw it to him.
He tried to rifle the pass inbetween four Giant defenders to Roy Williams, that was swatted down by the first defender in its path (Goff I think). It was a rocket, trusted too much in his arm.
There was the 3 and 18 quickpass to Earl Bennett that just didn’t leave him enough room to make anything with him, and threw it off the route that made Earl adjust too it, leading to a tackle right away.
Of course, those are nitpicks, but nitpicks can become turnovers, 3rd down failures and so forth.
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
Hester wasn't knocking the ball down, he just dropped it
Cutler wasn’t perfect, but for a guy who hasn’t played in a real NFL game since January, I’d say he played pretty damn good. His stats might’ve been better if he had a little help from his WR’s (*cough*roywilliams*cough*).
by NorthSideBearsFan on Aug 22, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the O-line did its job against a very good D
I like the 2 undrafted Wrs it think we got something in them and the tight end NUmber 86 forgot his name.
Pass protection; they really did well tonight
They really need to be more consistant in the running game, though.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 22, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
3rd down conversion
This might sound like faint praise looking at the poor numbers…but it was nice to see the first team offense, while not getting a 1st down on 3rd and long…their at least seemed to be a plan for Jay to get rid of the ball quickly and get a few yards back versus taking a sack and making it even harder for the Bears D in terms of field position.
I weirdly feel better about this week’s game than the preseason opener…the defense looked vanilla but I think that was the point…as for Roy…eh, I hope Drake and Martz can light a fire under that guy soon.
X: Truth
L1: Intuition (6)
Evening y'all
Sorry for not being there, just thought of watching the game closely to see what highlights I could take from tonight’s disaster in the New Meadowlands. For those interested The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly; Week 2 is up and running.
Anyways yes we stunk as a whole tonight, with effort being a low point imo, but when we needed the O-Line to step up and protect Cutler against a tough D-Line, they showed up and did a hell of a job. Only 1 sack tonight, 1!
Roy Williams had opportunities tonight and ran rather good routes, but he just needs to CATCH THE BALL! I don’t think Martz is a happy camper right now.
But still, improvements were made on offense, so I’m taking this loss with a grain of salt. What we need to work on now is consistancy in the running game as well as learning how to punch the ball in that freakin’ red zone. 1-5 is a terrible stat to have, period.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 22, 2011 10:48 PM CDT reply actions
Yea that was Cutler's one real mistake of the night
Anyways I thought Lance Louis really improved tonight, and Carimi looked outstanding tonight against Justin Tuck. Shoot Chris Williams had himself a fine game at LG. J’Marcus Webb still needs work, but he’s slowly coming around at LT.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 22, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Not really
Louis, compared to last week at least, looked servicable as a pass protector. He along with Webb still need to improve heading into week 3 of the preseason, but I’ll buy his improvements this week.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 22, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok I'm inclined to agree with Jeff Dickerson on a few things .....
….. First , I think that when the regular season starts Roy Williams will show his worth ……..
He seems content to just get through the preseason healthy and knows exactly how to do it. That’s fine, as long as he turns it on when the Bears face Atlanta on Sept. 11. I’m not saying he will be that elite receiver Mike Martz envisions, but I’m going to hold off making any real judgments because Williams is clearly just going through the motions. That was painfully obvious after a lackluster performance against New York. Who knows, Williams could turn out to be great. Or he could be the guy we all saw in Dallas the last few years. Only time will tell, but right now, I’m not panicking over Williams’ mediocre preseason. Not yet.
Second , our biggest issue heading into this season was the O-line and they did keep Jay clean and played as a unit instaed of 5 seperate players …….
Other than a few penalties, the line didn’t seem to have any glaring breakdowns that would necessitate Tice to make the much talked about changes. After all, Cutler was only sacked one time, Caleb Hanie none. Again, we aren’t expected to get a definitive answer until Wednesday when the Bears return to Halas Hall, but the offensive line held up better than most anticipated versus a talented Giants defense.
I also tend to agree with Kevin Seifert ( a perennial GB backer ….. really hes tends to go for everybody but the Bears ) on a few things ……. First , are we really that concerned over our defense after this preseason outing ? I’m not for the same reasons hes not …….
I know the final score was ugly, but the Bears defense that will spend regular-season games on the field didn’t provide too many causes for alarm as far as I was concerned. The Giants offense went three-and-out on its first two possessions. Linebacker Lance Briggs didn’t play and middle linebacker Brian Urlacher left after four series. Not much to see here.
Second , Gabe is a gamer …….
Carimi, especially, held his own against Giants defensive end Justin Tuck. The first-team offensive line played into the third quarter but allowed only one sack
LINK TO ENTIRE ARTICLE
We improved on the line , the WR’s & TE’s were solid , our D ( starting wise ) was solid , our special teams will work itself out & we left this game with our team health intact . So come on fellas its the preseason and we’ll be ready for the regular season .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Aug 23, 2011 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions
thanks for the links
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Good links.
Agree about Gabe. Like em!
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Aug 23, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions
The bears need to get CB they better call philly and see what they want
Samuel would look good back there with tillman.
Manning was 6-12 for 78 yards
What was so terrible? Run defense was the killer.
We are serving up Carimi Pancakes!!
Ya I thought Tim Jennings actually did a good job
And it seemed that most of the damage done by the Giants running game was up in between the tackles (like Major Wright’s whiff).
T. Jennings had a couple good one on one tackles on the outside.
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
He was all over the place tonight
Its only when against large WRs I get concerned, with Jennings standing at 5-8.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 22, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
The worst tackling corner in the league paired with Tillman? I’m not sure that’s a great idea, with our scheme.
Just Dave (on possible new OL signings): JaMarcus Russell. He's been standing in front of better quarterbacks his entire career.
Yet Tim Jennings is a better tackler
And tackling is important for CBs in the Tampa 2.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 22, 2011 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
We rely on the corners as edge defenders against the run. He was rated as the worst tackling corner over the past 3 seasons by quite some way by PFF or FO, I forget which one. Lovie’s said in the past that it’s important that our corners tackle (see Bowman, last season).
Just Dave (on possible new OL signings): JaMarcus Russell. He's been standing in front of better quarterbacks his entire career.
No way Bowman starts
unless Jennings or Tillman get hurt
by NorthSideBearsFan on Aug 22, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
This is true
"I'm so fly, ya'll still at the terminal" -Lil Wayne
by Chitownproduct on Aug 23, 2011 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Im not worried about run D in preaseason and remember u didnt have all the starters
I’m a little worried aboute our short CBs
AA wasn't in, and he's the rock in the run defense.
If anything, this outing and the Bills game were indicators of what I have said about AA all offseason. He is an extremely under-rated part of our run defense.
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1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 23, 2011 6:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Watching that after mid 2nd quarter was as much fun as a root canal
BUT, I have to say the O-Line looked better. Cutler made some better plays and threw some sharp passes. Too many dropsies from our WR’s. Peppers is a demi-god among men.
Good thing we had no injuries. Sucks for the Giants to lose a starter.
In case anyone is interested,
the fun’s already starting on the Score.
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 22, 2011 11:10 PM CDT reply actions
Uh-oh
I already know Biggs ain’t a happy camper….
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 22, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's see. One caller...
- There are no all-pro defensive tackles (true, but huh?)
- Urlacher is overrated, his career is over
- The Bears will get swept by the Lions.
- The Bears don’t have the defense to match up with Tampa.
- Oakland plays smashmouth football and run right through the Bears.
That’s just what I remember off the top of my head.
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 22, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Freakin' Meatball
Thats all I really need to say aboutthat fan
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 22, 2011 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
the kittens? really? both games??
"I'm so fly, ya'll still at the terminal" -Lil Wayne
by Chitownproduct on Aug 23, 2011 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions
One bad result in a preseason game and the world's gonna end.
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 23, 2011 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions
apparently, and the kittens are now NFL royalty.
Right along with the Steelers, Patriots and Packers.
"I'm so fly, ya'll still at the terminal" -Lil Wayne
by Chitownproduct on Aug 23, 2011 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions
That was one caller? So many false statements in one sitting, I am already full.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Aug 23, 2011 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions
One caller last night.
Was looking over at the radio doing double takes going “Wha…?”
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 23, 2011 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Nothing concerns me
cause it’s the preseason. They probably shouldn’t get blown out, but all that tells me is their second team is better than ours.
Not having Briggs hurt the run defense.
Not much pressure on the QB, but veteran defense will flip the switch versus Atlanta.
Biggest issue, which has been an issue, is the stupid RZ offense officiency. They have to figure out something or just air it out outside the opponents 20 yard line. They’re like standing in quicksand inside there.
Cutler was poised and looks more aware and comfortable in this offense.
Forte ran tentatively. Could his contract be holding him back? Absolutely.
Webb and Louis much, much better.
It’s nice to not hear CW’s name mentioned much. Good thing…
Carimi is already a stud.
I’m convinced that I could effectively run a quick slant pattern against the Bears defense. Might break my leg when tackled, but you get the point.
STS always come around under Toub….not worried one bit.
"All we needed was a ladder, some tennis balls and a timer. My uncle is old-school." - Henry Melton
our starters played significant amount of time
1st string offense played for the majority of the first half and came up with two field goals.
Also as for this comment:
They probably shouldn’t get blown out, but all that tells me is their second team is better than ours.
The Bears lack of depth is a major problem. Starters will get injured.
Just to be clear, nothing personal just giving my opinion
I understand the counterpoint
If the lackluster defense shows up in the regular season, then sure, it will be a huge concern.
"All we needed was a ladder, some tennis balls and a timer. My uncle is old-school." - Henry Melton
This team looked terrible
I bet a friend 20 bucks that they would not make the playoffs.
I know its just preseason, but there are some very concerning trends. Offensive line looks terrible, defense cannot stop the run, The Bears are trying to do a traditional Martz offense (not going to work with a terrible offensive line), Roy Williams looked flippin terrible again, Hester had some rough plays, I could go on.
The Defensive has struggled and the Bears have spent weeks telling us how strong they are. The age is really showing on these guys.
Yes its just preseason, but this team is not looking ready, lacking depth and seems to not have anyone stepping up to pickup starting jobs. This Bears team looks like amateurs from the top down. They need to fire Angelo at the very least, most likely Lovie if they ever really want to improve. I love the Bears but it has been hard to be one for decades.
Funny folks were sayin the same thing last year ..... How'd that turn out again ?
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Aug 23, 2011 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions
They got lucky and the Packers lost half of the team
This lead to them getting a bye, they played a terrible Seattle team and than got beat by the Packers. The Bears suffered no injuries and had a cupcake schedule.
They are not going to the playoffs this year. If I am wrong, than great. But I don’t think I am.
Being a meatball doesn’t make you a better fan, just a more disappointed one.
Funny...
Most of the meatballs on this site are of the pessimistic variety…
Not really, the only become pessimistic once their homer fantasy is broken
Than they get extremely upset, because they have convinced themselves the Bears are “underperforming” which translates to them as “being lazy” and “not trying”. They are all upset because they made dumb bets with their packer fan buddies and non-meatball homer fans.
If you are realistic about the team and are actually able to admit that they do not look good than its hard to be a meatball. If you insist that people go into every year with a “positive attitude” and try to use a year like last year as proof that a team will be good you might be a meatball. Football, more than any other popular sport (in America) changes year to year. Teams that were terrible can be good and teams that appeared to be good can be terrible (or just not be as lucky).
I don’t see how any rational fan can not be concerned about this team. They have just looked terrible, a few good performances but tons of systemic issues. You look at something like the offensive line.. they cannot even look good in practice.
My biggest concern
Occasional lapses in discipline. I’d call it a lack of effort at times, but that may be unfair. Put as much lipstick on it as you want, this was a fat pig of a performance.
I plan to live forever, or die trying.
by Sparky The Barbarian on Aug 22, 2011 11:26 PM CDT reply actions
Apparently the Vistors (Bears) locker room was totally empty before the press was left in
They know that was a terrible game and the overall message about this team is not a very hopeful one
How was Gabe Carimi and Chris Spencer?
Any details will be appreciated (didn’t get to watch the game).
Aaron Curry is the first Seahawk since Walter Jones to have a legitimate shot at Hall of Fame induction - John Morgan
Gabe Carimi did well tonight against Tuck
And Spencerwas solid as a rock at Center, although he didn’t get any 1st team reps.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 22, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
get it together
bears looked soft and better get their act together,, horrible tackling.. cutler looked good barber a definite number 2 carimi and spencer played well special teams horrible
hester dropped one and tripped on another that could have been 2 tds
well see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
technically those were both in the same series...
So it still would of been only 1 TD depending on which one he caught.
"I'm so fly, ya'll still at the terminal" -Lil Wayne
by Chitownproduct on Aug 23, 2011 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions
as some of you guys have already said
our fanbase would rather be you right now.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
unfortuate series of events
for the injury. best of luck in finding some CB depth and hope he heals up well.
Watching the NFL film of last season
And I’m FRACKIN PROUD that Kid Cutty is our QB
"I see PRIDE, I see POWER, I see a BADASS MOTHA WHO WON'T TAKE NO CRAP OFF NOBODY!"
Saw that too
Was a pretty cool show on the 2010 season.. Didn’t show any of the losses tho
by edenburnz on Aug 23, 2011 12:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm liking what I saw from Cutler
Now Roy Williams and Hester… Hester made a nice catch on that deep throw but he was making too many mistakes (falling down on the play where he was open, not getting up when he wasn’t touched, the drop, and running backwards on the one catch losing some yards). Roy is still dropping balls like he was in Dallas.
Bennett and Knox look better from what I have seen, and I thought they should have been the starters before Free Agency began.
Pep is still a beast, and Gabe looked good too.
Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/ Arizona Diamondbacks/Phoenix Coyotes/ Arizona Rattlers/Chicago Bears fan
[I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
Im not too wooried about williams bears always throw out 3-4 Wrs
I think knox and bennett will be our starters sooner or later.
Overall Assessment:
Very positive.
Cutler looked good. Bennett and Hester both are improving. Hester though, well, is improving from something quite a bit below Bennett, but, the makings are there. Can he get the discipline? Can you beat it out of Darryl Drake? Roy Williams has to remember how to play for a real team again. The line looked nothing if not average (which is SO SWEET TO SAY).
I’m convinced naysayers are just looking to put holes in an 11-5 team. It’s a good team that can do much. The defense may need some help and depth in the future in the linebacking positions, but… other than that? I’m overwhelmingly happy with the way it turned out, even if it was 6 to a bunch.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
looking to put holes?
You list a 2 players that looked good, Hester okay. And you totally ignore all the systemic issues that were present last year and in some cases looking worst and you claim that people are inventing things. You assessment of a game in which the coach described as terrible is “very positive”.
Where the Heck are you getting eleven wins from, lets start with the first three. You think they are going to beat ATL, Saints and Packers? Those look like 3 losses to me, one win if lucky.
Marion Barber has enough left to be a good second back.
Chester is a good backup to a power guy like AP, but when defenses are getting double doses of finesse backs in Taylor and Forte, it just isn’t effective offense.
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
Forte is not a finesse back
6’2 225
Where the white women at?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGQ-ISsDm8M
by parkernutws05 on Aug 23, 2011 3:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Well putting his size aside, ...Fortewas graded out by Pro Football Weekly as one of the worst tackle breaking backs in the league.
Earl Bennett has a higher broken tackle rating then he does. He’s a fast, one, maybe two cut back with solid vision. Maybe he’s not purely finesse, but he’s definitely not a power back.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Aug 23, 2011 6:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Personally
The game looked more a lazy performance than us being on the road to a losing season.
by lmfsilva on Aug 23, 2011 4:55 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Im calling for Alshon Jefferey, Tank Carder next year, two biggest needs A WR and a LB to replace Urlacher, he's losing his step
How about a Carimi pancake for your A$$
Thiers gonna be alot of free agent Wrs next yr
We need to work on the O-line still with brian losing a step dosent mean anything the guys still great.!
I'm hoping
the Bears aren’t drafting high enough to get Alshon next year
Checking out my sprunjer?
by Chicago Faithful on Aug 23, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Just a thought
But if we wanted a WR that is going to drop 3 out of every 4 passes, couldn’t we have just kept Davis or maybe even signed Edwards instead?
Not real impressed with the overall team effort...
but the o-line showed it’s not getting worse. I’m still not sold on this line-up of characters, but at least Webb and Louis were not disastrous. CW was surprisingly good. I’d still like to see more improvement next week, but I’m less concerned than I was a week ago.
-Cutler played very well and the off season chatter about his focus and footwork improvement are not just PR crap from the coaches.
-The ST were horrible, DeCicco missed his assignment on the punt block, he had a terrible night.
-I am still of the opinion that Hester should be returning more kicks and playing less WR and Knox should be returning less kicks and playing more WR. Knox should really be a starter at the #3(slot) WR in Hester’s place and Hester should be the primary PR/KR with 4th WR duties to add his talents to the offense in small doses.
-Last night is a perfect example of what I dislike about Lovie’s defensive philosophy. Both teams run effectively the same base look, but the Giants have invested in better cover guys and can play aggressive gap-coverage defense. The Bears seem to sit back and not give up too many big plays; unless they miss a tackle and it looks like a jail break.
-Roach is just not a great LB, he’s good for a back-up, but the Bears need a better starter, not more back-ups; Tatupu might just fit the bill.
-DJ Moore’s size is as much of a liability as his ball-hawking skills are an asset.
-Paea looked awful; he was manhandled and ineffective. Okoye may end up being the “steal” to cover the missed opportunity of drafting Paea.
-The Bears WRs are terrible at catching. With Bennett as an exception, the Bears WRs drop too many passes. Is that on Drake?
-Sanzenbacher will make the team as the 6th WR, Kris Adams will make the PS. Kyle Adams looks like he could make the roster as a TE/FB, but the numbers are not in his favor.
-Sometimes Martz’s in-game play calling is just bad. I especially dislike the fact the offense is devoid of audibles.
-For all of the good run blocking otherwise, the goal line/short yardage offense is just weak.
-Again, I know it’s preseason and the all out effort is not necessary, but the lack of intensity and overall preparedness was just disheartening.
-There’s plenty to work on, but I see most of the positions as being fairly well settled. I just hope the Bears can “turn it on” when the regular season starts. We can’t blame everything on the o-line.
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
Podlesh
It’s a little concerning to see him averaging less yards per kick than Maynard did and with what appeared to be half the hangtime.
I also had no clue that the Giants had both Weatherford and Dodge… who both boomed kicks and also pinned the Bears down within the 20.
I won't go so far as to predict that the Bears won't make the playoffs.
But, there are some unsettling things about this game. Mainly that at halftime, we were down 20-6, and our starters had gotten at least 80-90% of the snaps to that point. After that, when the teams went bad-on-bad, we were again outplayed.
I went so far (in the open thread) to say that it was an embarrassing performance for the Bears. Before the meat-balls jump on me, let me justify that.
Even WITH this being a preseason game, the Bears (as a team, not as a fan base…so everyone RELAX) should NOT be proud of the overall outcome of the game. It’s not just the scoreboard, its the poor 3rd down conversion rate (like last year), the dropped balls, the poor special teams, and big play/drive sustaining offense of the Giants against both our 1’s and 2’s.
So, if one isn’t proud of something…what is he? That’s right, the Bears should be embarrassed by this poor performance. Any way you boil it down, it’s a 41-13 loss in a professional sports competition.
Again,
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
So, if one isn’t proud of something…what is he? That’s right, the Bears should be embarrassed
Goodness, such a boolean world view. Have you ever considered the possibility of inserting shades of indifference, concern and satisfaction in there? Otherwise: was Curtis Enis the best running back in the history of the NFL? No? In that case, he must have been the worst.
Q.E.D.
Just Dave (on possible new OL signings): JaMarcus Russell. He's been standing in front of better quarterbacks his entire career.
My point is that was a flat out poor performance from a team that I think is much better than it showed...even in preseason.
And Curtis Enis is the best RB of all time.
Duh.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Aug 23, 2011 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions
And your parallel analogy does not work. At all.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Aug 23, 2011 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Relax, man
By the time the defensive starters left, it was 13-6 – a manageable game and something a few halftime adjustments could overcome.
If I was one of the UDFAs fighting for a job, I would be embarrassed. But if I was a starter, I’d be a little concerned, but not too worried. As long as the 1’s stay healthy, this team will be ready for Atlanta in Week 1.
by NorthSideBearsFan on Aug 23, 2011 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm relaxed. Just willing to point out a poor performance when I see one. Obviously, that probably hurts more feelings in this room than it would on the actual roster.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Aug 23, 2011 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Im not too concerned either its just preseason
I seen what i wanted too see and that was cutler passing good and the line blocking.Teams dont even practice for these first 2 preseason games.There just trying to figure things out..The 3rd game they do practice for and try to do things during the game and see whos staying or not.its preseason relax we didnt even have all our starters.
Bears lose to Giants - MATTERS ?
No The only thing that mattered is the o-line continued to get better and Cutler was not in danger. Run defense,-bad ? Bears are great vs the run. Strength of the team. Now if A.Adams was lost in f/a or serious injury,I would have mild concerns. Our ‘D’ line is better ! Okoye could fill in at DE. DT position looks stronger this year. We need another athlete at DE to backup the starters. Pae looks like a NT to me and should do well. Disappointed in Vernon Ghost. Also WR Fantuz.. Disappointed Angelo did not upgrade the CB position in f/a. I would like to fire Angelo ! Could a million emails to head quarters do it ? Whats most important is Cutlers protection and keeping the best 58 players.

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