Knox Gaining on Roy Williams ; Barber May Take Taylors Roster Spot
Well Mr. Knox if you start to protect your QB, run better routes, finish those routes & get better at blocking, you may just get that starting spot back. Honestly I think when the season starts Roy will show up big.
Barber looks better & plays better than Chester and I think Chester will be a goner when the season starts .
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I'll believe it when I see it
Because the Bears are famous for giving people starting positions they didn’t earn, I’m looking right at you Mark Anderson.
by baseballguru589 on Aug 23, 2011 10:08 PM CDT reply actions
didn't earn it?!?!?!
He had 12 sacks his rookie season. Twice as many as Brown that year. How did he not earn it????
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by suckmyditka on Aug 23, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
He did nothing
to keep said position. he benefitied from one of the better defenses we’ve ever fielded…and did exactly…nothing after he was made a starter.
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by BearNecessities on Aug 24, 2011 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions
That doesn’t mean he didn’t do something to get himself into the starter role, though.
When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm actually putting u between me and an ass.
this^
He earned the starting job and deserved a chance to defend said job. He lost it by season end. Doesn’t mean he didn’t earn the shot
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Monster
should get a writer’s spot. for “Fan Shot Guy”
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Thanks fellas .....
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by MidWayMonster54 on Aug 24, 2011 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Roy Williams did this to himself
It was his job to lose, and right now he’s losing it. Two weeks into the preseason, and he has yet to make an impact. It’s time
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 23, 2011 10:26 PM CDT reply actions
To show he is a complete player
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Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 23, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
it's just preseason...
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by suckmyditka on Aug 23, 2011 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Forte hasn't done anything so far either...
does he need to step up too?
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by suckmyditka on Aug 23, 2011 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
u call takin a screen pass across and up the field for 42 yds
“not done anything?”
tough crowd. sheesh
in my defense
i said
“hasn’t done anything”*
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Uh? Major difference here!
Forte is not auditioning for a new team.
The Past 3 years of Forte’s play and production speak for themselves.
He has nothing new to prove. Nifty scree pass Monday Night, huh?
RWill’s last three years speak for themselve’s also, … that’s why Dallas dumped him :(
Not even a remote comparison.
pbanachi
Hey
i’m just proving that anyone can nitpick
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And...
Marion Barber, two weeks into the preseason, has shown to be the better player as the #2 RB. Better blocker, better runner, better receiver, and a much better compliment to Matt Forte than Chester Taylor is.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 23, 2011 10:31 PM CDT reply actions
Roy Williams should be cut ASAP
he hasn’t made a single catch in the preseason- the only reason why he made it to the starting lineup is because he’s a Martzster…
I hope this is sarcasm
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by suckmyditka on Aug 23, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Todd Collins don't you know?
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
doh..
in Collins’ defense he had a great camp last year
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You deserve to spell deserve right as well as
wielding.
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by suckmyditka on Aug 24, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
hahahaha i can always count on you
I respect your OPINION but i also value the FACTS, To save time, lets just ASSume IM NEVER WRONG
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Aug 26, 2011 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Doubt anything changes 'til the real games start
Roy looks to be coasting, just making sure he doesn’t get injured. Now, if this is what he does when the real games start, no doubt Knox should pass him. But…also, even though it looks like he’s just coasting, there is a ridiculous sample size issue. How many balls has he had thrown to him in 2 games? Is that more or less than we think he might get thrown his way in the opening quarter of Game 1? I think less
small sample size?
if u can’t catch one, just ONE of 5,6 passes thrown your way (esp. when at least 2 are routinely catchable), you don’t deserve a starting job
I saw 2 thrown his way
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
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in 2 games?
he had 3 targets vs giants
…and, wait…
i forgot he didnt play vs bills (or not much if he did)
thank you for the correction, sir
wow three targets two off his hands in the second preseason game thats it close the door lets forget some of the crap we saw from knox last year.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
right..it's like
Knox DIDN’t lead the league in INTs per-target last year or anything
sarcasm
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right...it's like
Williams DIDN’T lead the league in highest % of drops in the league since 2008 or anything
sarcasm
from today’s Tribune:
As Kevin Seifert pointed out in his NFC North blog on ESPN.com, since 2008, Williams has dropped a higher percentage of passes than any player in the league targeted as least 200 times. He had 19 drops in 231 passes thrown his way, 8.2 percent.
He also had the third-lowest catch percentage in the league over the last three seasons. Williams caught 48.1 percent of the passes thrown to him (111 of 231), which put him ahead of only Braylon Edwards (46.6) and Bryant Johnson (47.3).
he DIDNT lead the league
Edwards lead the league boo
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the group mentioned above
was reception %
SMDitka was referring to interception per target ratio
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by Chicago Faithful on Aug 24, 2011 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions
My fault, I wasn't being clear...
I only was trying to point out that there are negative stats you can find on anyone and it’s not like Roy Williams has been this unbelievable “go to” guy.
I feel like too many fans make these statements about Knox screwing up routes or Williams being in exactly the right place when there is no way any of us can know that. We don’t see coaches films or know the actual plays or adjustments they’re supposed to make. That doesn’t mean that Knox hasn’t made some mistakes or Williams isn’t ever in the right place but I just don’t see how any of can make these definitive statements. Regarding Knox and running the wrong routes all the time, how many of those happened because Jay made the wrong read and didn’t adjust when he should have? I know I’ll hear that I’m a “Jay Hater” for saying he could make a mistake but the reality is that probably happened a few times last season as well.
Bottom line is, Jay and Johnny were both learning a new system last year and, in my opinion, they both performed pretty well under those circumstances but need more time together to develop and I’d hate to see someone with Knox’ potential be pushed aside for a guy who hasn’t performed as well in the last couple of years.
I think
that they did well last year considering. But I also feel that Knox lacked some basic things that receivers should do, regardless of what play is called or what system they’re running in. He bulked up, may have improved route running, but maybe didn’t excel in getting a better grasp of the playbook. Also, a receiver has to have the ability to recognize when they have to change from a receiver to a defender to keep the defense from getting a turnover.
With Jay throwing to a spot, and the receiver not being there when the ball appears, you tend to believe that someone got the play wrong. When it happens over and over and over with Knox more than any of the other players, you tend to place the blame on Knox and not Cutty6.
Now, trust me, I recognize that catching the ball is something that should be a skill that receivers should posses, but I feel like with this offense, the first priority is being where you’re supposed to be when you’re supposed to be there. Only then can you attempt to catch the ball. Jay has to trust that, when he releases that ball before the WR makes a cut, that he’s actually going to make that cut and wind up where Jay threw the ball.
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by Chicago Faithful on Aug 24, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't disagree with anything you've said other than
I don’t think we can really know how many times Knox made mistakes. Last year Darryl Drake was pretty upset later in the season saying the WR’s were not in the wrong place as many people accused them of and Cutler never seemed to blame Knox for that. Not that he would have openly called him out but usually that kind of thing comes out during the course of a season.
Again, I’m not trying to say he was never in the wrong place or ran the wrong route but I don’t ever remember his attitude or effort being a question. One thing Chicago fans will not tolerate is lack of effort or making excuses, something that Williams seems to be displaying thus far, hopefully for all our sakes, that will change.
cutler never blamed the O-line for the 52 times he was slammed to the ground by the opposing D either.
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He couldn't
too busy trying to breathe after getting the wind knocked out of him so many times :)
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Let's see if we can get this column super thin.
Also, I love what Marshall Faulk said about Johnny Knox. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-02-10/sports/ct-spt-0210-around-town—20110209_1_jay-cutler-johnny-knox-grace-calhoun
I feel like his inability
to try to deflect a pass that he knows he won’t be able to bring in is a lack of effort.
I remember the Wash game specifically seeing Knox not come back to the ball and just letting DeAngelo Hall look like freakin’ God almighty on the field.
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by Chicago Faithful on Aug 24, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
nope
Knox posted an amazing 50.1% reception percentage, a stunning 2% higher reception % than Williams, while leading the league in ints by target….So pick your poison, 2% more receptions and 11 more interceptions on the season, or 2% less catches and a few more drops.
I get the Williams anger, I don’t get the Knox love fest. I guess Chicago fans are still that starved for a good receiver they will dress up anything.
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by Brendan Hess on Aug 24, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cut them both, bring back David Terrell
Just win dammit!
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Aug 24, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
The Dilfer of WRs?
NOOOOOOOO!!!
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You know what pisses me off...and is kind of degrading..
is when people use the exact same words i did in their post, except changin minuet things like names…
It pisses me off cuz you’re not good enough to make things up yourself and it’s degrading to yourself bro
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by suckmyditka on Aug 24, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Take it easy, it was meant as a joke...
if I didn’t hate emoticons I would have used one of those stupid symbols but I thought you would realize the attempt without doing that.
Don’t take things so personally.
i was just playin with ya baby doll
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Hey man..
Just supporting a newly acquired Bear
though i’ve always liked Williams.
I just don’t understand the love affair with Knox
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I get what you're saying and I was joking around.
I will admit I’ve never been a Roy Williams fan from the time he came into the league but in reality, I just want the best players on the field and if that truly is Williams, so be it.
I just think Knox has more potential, even though he does need to improve in areas, and I just don’t understand how you don’t let them actually compete rather than annoint either of them the starter if you really want the best guy out there.
Here’s a question, and I don’t know that there is a right/wrong answer, but curious about what your opinion would be. Going into this past off-season, if you went to the other 30 teams (leaving out the Bears and Cowboys) and said you could trade a 3rd round pick for either Johnny Knox or Roy Williams, which one would you take? Who do you think the choice would be? Also, to make it fair, Knox wouldn’t be able to return kicks.
My guess is it would be Knox by a landslide, but that’s just my opinion.
If Knox couldn't return kicks it would be Williams
He’s the better WR. Now if kick returns were involved Knox would be the guy, but without kick returns it’d be Williams.
The stats that i can’t get over is that Knox lead the league in INTs per-target last year. I would rather have a guy who drops a pass every 46% of the time as opposed to a guy who can’t beat out man coverage and who gets owned on slant routes.
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I don't really know how that number is compiled but does it take into account
throws into coverage, under throws or overthrows? Not every interception thrown his, or any receiver’s, way is all their fault. It also stands to reason that those receivers who get more targets could have a higher percentage as well. I would think that if he couldn’t beat man coverage or run slants, the QB wouldn’t keep going to him for an entire season.
Again, I don’t know all the ins and outs of this stat but it’s not something I would be overly concerned with. For me a higher “drop” percentage is more telling because it does reflect that receiver’s individual ability more, in my opinion.
Roy Roy looks terrible and uninterested, while Knox is out there with the 3rds playing his @$$ off. Until Roy can PROVE he belongs starting, take a seat.
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by BearNecessities on Aug 24, 2011 12:38 AM CDT reply actions
considering all his screwups last year Knox should be out there playing is @$$ off proving he belongs on this team.
I wonder if the Bears can get a 4th round pick for him
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Considering Knox was the leading receiver on this team, and was one of the top players in catches over 20 yards last year, it’s absurd that he is under scrutiny by ANYONE to “prove” he belongs.
He didnt have size, he gained weight
he didnt fight for catches, he’s shown improvement there in camp and preseason thus far
Roy Williams…looks the same, you’re argument holds no weight
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by BearNecessities on Aug 24, 2011 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Knox is an over hyped one trick pony
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
by ed_brown on Aug 24, 2011 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
And exactly what trick does Roy Williams have over him?
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by BearNecessities on Aug 24, 2011 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
look at the career stats Williams may not be an elite WR but he has done a lot more than knox
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Yea, because Roy Williams has been in the league for what, 5 more years than Knox?
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by BearNecessities on Aug 24, 2011 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions
and he has 1 year as good as two by knox
knox is good for a couple of big plays per game thanks mainly to Cutler. He has shown hes not ta go to guy when you need to convert 3rd downs and keep the chains moving.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Knox looks better than Roy to me...by a long shot
Roy looks lazy, washed up with a bad attitude to boot. No thanks on Roy Roy.
yeah I can see how two passes in a preseason game can totally seal someones fate
Roy was far from my first choice for a F/A WR signing but he has proven that he can get the job done. Knox has proven that he can make a big play every so often but Cutler can’t count on him when he needs to convert a 3rd down. I truely hope to see Knox grow as a receiver but until he does we need someone to get the job done. Since Angelo likes to shop from the bargain bin Roy is about the best we can hope for. Short term contract and another year to develop our WR’s
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Knox has proven that he can make a big play every so often but Cutler can’t count on him when he needs to convert a 3rd down
Slight flaw in your argument there: that’s still more than Williams has shown so far, and was Cutler able to count on Williams when he needed to convert a 3rd down?
Yes, only a couple of passes thrown his way so far, but coasting when you’re on a 1-year deal to impress with a new team to revive your career + turning up too out of shape to run in the offensive scheme you’ve been brought in to be a star in (not a problem we’ve heard about for the other receivers)… well, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, I can only hope it’s miraculously going to transform into a go-to receiver after 4 seasons of underachievement. I’ll take no pleasure if he doesn’t.
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Quack!
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by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Aug 24, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I like your walk too
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
cute, but it doesn't change the fact that Knox has never been a go to guy and Williams has.
how is being right where you are suppose to be when those 3 passes were thrown your way coasting? You like to bring up Dallas but knox would have had a hard time making any of those teams as a special teamer and would never have seen the field as a receiver. And who is to say that Williams conditioning is anywhere near the problem you are making it out to be.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
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after one game?? HAHA ok buddy
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an Roy has 3 years in Dallas
where everyone forgot he played in the NFL.
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by BearNecessities on Aug 24, 2011 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Know would have had a hard time sticking with Dallas over the past three years as a special teamer what's your point?
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
make that Knox would have had a hard time making Dallas's ST over the past 3 years and would have had no stats down there.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Really? One of the fastest players in the league would have no stats in Dallas?
Wow, let the Knox-hate flow.
by NorthSideBearsFan on Aug 24, 2011 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Just ignore the fact
he was at the 2009 Pro Bowl as a returner
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How come
people don’t credit Toub more for having 3 of the highest yard-per-return returners in the game?
Knox is good, but do people think it’s just coincidental that almost anyone who gets put as a returner on the Bears’ special teams normally stands out against other teams’ returners?
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by Chicago Faithful on Aug 24, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
We'll see how good Manning does away from the Bears
I think its a nice balance of talent and coaching for our special teams. I mean, you can just take a fast guy and throw him back there like in Madden. I mean, Davis and Wolfe have both been used for returns and neither did anything like Hester, Manning or Knox
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not elected added after the fact
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Still
being a Pro Bowl alternate your rookie year after being a 5th round pick out of a D-2 school I think is pretty impressive. Devin Hester he’s not but he’s no scrub at special teams.
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Knox has 1 k/r TD in his career.
After how many returns?
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We've gotten spoiled with Hester
Hell the Bucs have had what, 2 return TD’s ever…just because a guy doesn’t take it to the house every other time doesn’t mean he’s garbage…kick return average is even more important
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I think it's Dave Toub honestly
You could stick anybody with good speed back there and they’d do fine.
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by suckmyditka on Aug 25, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
we'll find out in a few years
if Toub ever leaves for a higher position
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for the love of Halas
Dez Bryant couldn’t crack their starting lineup as a rookie do you really believe Knox is in the same league as Bryant (not talking the headcase league)
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Very few are in Bryant's headcase league
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Bryant > Knox
Bryant on that one p/r td last year made the whole Bears s/t look a fool
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Looks bad now though
And now is about the only instance that matters
by Sound_Automatic on Aug 24, 2011 3:11 AM CDT up reply actions
looks like the second week of the preseason to me.
not opening day.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Wow
R. Williams has admitted to not being in shape. J. Knox has added 10 pounds of muscle. R. Williams has had 1 1000 receiving season out of 6. J. Knox nearly had a 1000 yard season in only his second season after being drafted in the fifth round. Knox comes into camp in great shape, williams doesn’t. What’s the argument for R. Williams again?
by Dozjah on Aug 24, 2011 5:11 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Williams was joking when he said he wasn't in shape
there’s been multiple stories about his explanation. Go find one. I won’t be your eyes.
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And he managed to get all those beat writers in on the joke? Cunning; I believed what they said when they reported that he looked sluggish and wasn’t putting effort into his routes when he wasn’t the primary receiver.
When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm actually putting u between me and an ass.
Just from today’s Den…
Oh Mark Potash, you kidder!
Dan Pompei, you cheeky japester!
I don’t normally read S.I. but they seem in on it, too.
When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm actually putting u between me and an ass.
Clearly Roy Williams
has fooled the globe with his other worldly witty sense of humor…joke’s on us pal!!!
shaking MY head
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by BearNecessities on Aug 24, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
To be fair, Moon Mullin‘s in on the joke. Cutler, too. If not for good old suckmyditka, we’d all have been fooled.
When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm actually putting u between me and an ass.
smh smh
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by suckmyditka on Aug 24, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Typically fantastic counterargument there, old boy. Well done.
When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm actually putting u between me and an ass.
Did you know cheetahs can carry twice their weight up a tree?
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Did you know that certain monkeys have prehensile penis'
and can actually hang by them?
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
And the "cheeky" variety can smudge with their peni.
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by Pete Dixon on Aug 24, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
this thread took an unexpected turn
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 24, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I almost didn't catch it
but then I did
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HAHAHA THATS A SMUDGERS JOKE!
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Oh Roy Williams!! how dare you be sarcastic!
Roy Williams on the notion he’s out of shape: “My fault media. I’m a sarcastic guy. I like to smile a lot so I won’t do that anymore.”
Zaidman tweet^^
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i like my football players to snarl, not smile.
roy williams is a clown and will be released at some point this season. print it.
MSW would have been a much better signing.
skeletons don't like closets.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 25, 2011 6:44 AM CDT up reply actions
This is why I drafted Knox and not Williams
in one of my fantasy drafts as a later round sleeper.
Like many have said, Roy could be “coasting” through the preseason, but that wouldn’t be accurate based on his track record. He’s always had suspect hands in the NFL. Mental toughness is what he’s lacking, not physical toughness.
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well yeah
but who you got starting in Madden….hmmm?
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by BearNecessities on Aug 24, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Tim Tebow?
When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm actually putting u between me and an ass.
No way man
didn’t you hear, Tebow is 4th string behind Adam Weber according to Silver
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Broncos
In WORSE Shape than we are before we had Jay
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Tebow should be starting that team
I’ve watched him in preseason and there’s no reason why he’s 3rd let alone 4th string.
He’s been their best qb so far
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Well he's also a 1st rounder in addition to being fan favorite
You basically have to play him eventually. That or trade him to a team searching for answers at QB.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 24, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he'd be great in Miami
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Same here
They can return to their old offense, just instead of having a RB do the wildcat Tebow can simply run the play himself. That would be far more difficult to defend.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 24, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I like Tebow
I think he’s got a great attitude, great morals, and he’s a damn good football player. He knows how to win games. He may not be the best passer, but the dude just finds ways to win. I never got the Tebow hate
(and this is coming from a Miami Hurricane fan)
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I hate the media going between anointing him god
and hating him…its almost as bad as Favre…I’m sure he’s a great guy but he’s had wayyyyyyyy too much coverage
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He's been covered that much because
he’s possibly the greatest college football player of all time
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by suckmyditka on Aug 24, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
meh
I’m sure in the 100+ years of college football I’m sure there was someone better…he’s just the total college package, wins, has heart, is a pretty boy, plays hard, has guts and believes in Jesus…he’s a marketing dream.
I look at him the same way I looked a Reggie Bush coming out of college…looked great against that college opposition, but probably won’t work as well when everyone is better
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Tebow could be really good. If he could get a chance.
There’s one big dif between Bush and Tebow.. tebow played i nthe SEC. Bush played in the Pac 10
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by suckmyditka on Aug 25, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Not for nothing but both
Dickerson and Jensen stated yesterday on radio that RWilliams will be given every opportunity to keep that job….If it does change it wont be until like past game 5 of the season if ever…..The Barber thing I think most everyone can see that coming…..
I once said "NO!" to a mugger with such conviction he gave me his wallet and shot himself.....Thats how good I am.....
- Roy Williams
Mike Martz should no longer be allowed to have input on personnel decisions
Dan LeFevour (over James Starks)?
Todd Collins?
The Manatee?
Roy Williams?
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
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Didnt we draft LeFevour without Martz...
And screw Starks like he became an all pro back…(Frack you Buck!)
"I see PRIDE, I see POWER, I see a BADASS MOTHA WHO WON'T TAKE NO CRAP OFF NOBODY!"
Ya from the way Bear beat writers explained it
Angelo wanted lefevour more than anyone else….gabriel wanted starks over the other prospects but it was said gabriel was friends with starks agent and thats why he wanted him……They all decided on starks but then Angelo changed his mind at the very last minute and went with lefevour……martz wasnt fond of lefavour and wanted him cut but Angelo thought he could stash him on the PS essentially forcing lefavour on martz (I guess as revenge for martz forcing collins on Angelo)…..
BTW looks like lefavour might get his chance to be named starter in cincy…..If that counts for anything….
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by CloudyFuture on Aug 24, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Really?
I thought Andy Dalton was the golden boy franchise QB for the Bengals?
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 24, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
The Fever > Dalton
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I can see that now
I for one think some of our staff members, especially Jerry, should feel like idiots if Dan winds up becoming a big named QB. He definitely could have been a solid prospect for us.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 24, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I just assumed... thanks for the detail
I looked at the box score of the Bengals game, and LeFevour was the 3rd QB. Not sure if he’ll move up or not. But, all QBs on that roster might get a chance this year… that team will be lucky to win 2 games.
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Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Heard one of the cincy
beat writers talking about how lefavour looked in camp last week and he was thinking he wouldnt be surprised that lefavour would win the job….But looking at the depth chart for cincy now he is tied with 3rd string with jordan palmer (carson brother)……
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by CloudyFuture on Aug 24, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
"Awkward" for Jordan.... with the Carson situation.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Read something recently that Carson thinks the brass are “toying” with his brother and will cut him late in camp (presumably, to sabotage his career). Of course, they might cut him just for being not good enough to make the roster, I dunno…
When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm actually putting u between me and an ass.
nope, if you're playing for the Bengals
unless you’re a rookie in Cincy, you probably already did something to sabotage your career
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hahahahaha BAM the Todd Collins card I WIN !!!
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Its the equivelent to 5 wild cards in Uno
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If you don't see the Roy Williams train coming then you aren't paying attention.
It was never a competition to begin with. It’s not about being Pre-season, it’s not about Knox all of a sudden becoming Rex Grossman, it’s about an out of shape veteran coming into camp and being given a job when it’s obvious as hell that he isn’t the 4th best WR on the squad.
This needs to get nipped in the bud before the season starts because it’s nothing but another Mike Martz roster power play where “his” guy gets superstar treatment at the expense of another player. Knox gained 10 pounds of muscle and has bust his ass over the offseason, and to not be able to compete for the starting job to that goof is ridiculous. If Williams doesn’t do better in against the Titans than he should be demoted.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
I'm not entirely convinced
that this move wasn’t partially to motivate Knox.
Checking out my sprunjer?
by Chicago Faithful on Aug 24, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope you're right
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
I agree with Dils on this point and in response to your theory that it was to motivate Knox
wouldn’t it have made more sense to actually make it a competition and tell Knox that you don’t have the starting job automatically but may the best man win? Also, with Williams performance the last 3 years, wouldn’t that true competition have been a way to motivate him as well?
That’s where I have the problem with this whole situation, if you really want the best person to have the job then don’t annoint anybody and give them equal time during practice and the games to see who comes out on top.
I really don’t care who wins the position as long as it’s the most deserving candidate.
that's what we needed a conspiracy theory
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Conspiracy theory
that coaches make moves, in part, to motivate? Not exactly a second shooter on the grassy knoll.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
It could be an ice bullet though
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Roy Williams
I think he’s the 4th best WR on this team (and I’m counting #23) What about Earl Bennett?? I think people forget about him sometimes, he makes catches on 3rd down and blocks as well as any WR I’ve seen. Roy Williams has been all talk except for 1 year in his career. Remember him guaranteeing victories over us in 05 and 06?? Earl Bennett is the #1 WR on this team, Knox is #2.
no actually...
Williams is the #1 WR and Hester is #2. Hah see what i did there? I used actual life as my source.
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by suckmyditka on Aug 24, 2011 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
If I were Knox I'd be pissed to the point of demanding a trade.
Last 2 seasons for Knox: 96 catches, 1487 yards, 10 TD’s.
Last 2 seasons for Williams: 75 catches, 1126 yards, 12 TD’s.
Knox did that in his first two seasons, Roy did that in what should be his “prime.” Furthermore, Knox did that for the Bears and established himself as the best WR on the team. Williams was brought in on a one year deal hoping he’d regain some of his old Martz magic.
Ladies and Gentlemen, this is Adam Archuletta 2.0. An old, coach’s favorite brought in hoping the system brings out the best in him. Same shit different day. Like Troy Aikman said last year(or the year before), the Bears insult the WR position by continuously conducting experiments at the position and not placing enough value on getting a real playmaker at that position.
Uhm you just proved MY point
Williams stats 75 catches, 1126 yards, 12 TD’s.
That;’s as the THIRD string WR!
If he can do that as a third string, he can do better as a first.
Knox barely had better stats, with less TDs than Williams and he was first string last year.
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Dude...
Knox was a 5th round pick and in his second year put up numbers comparable to Desean Jackson. Roy Williams is a former first round pick and do have any idea what Dallas gave up to get Roy Williams? That guy hasn’t been productive since Bush was in office and the only reason he was the third option is because he lost his spot to an undrafted FA by the name of Miles Austin that wanted more than him.
Williams is an underachieving Diva and for him to be given that spot was a controversy waiting to happen. He hasn’t earned anything and if his name was Roy Johnson, he’d be in danger of getting cut.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
WOAH How were his numbers comparable to Jacksons? lol
47 1,056 22.5 75.4 91T 6
Those are jackson’s stats.
He had less receptions and more yards than Knox. Jackson is a straight up BALLER dude. Don’t even try to compare Knox to him. Can’t do it.
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and if you're confused that's
47 rec 1,056yds 22.5yds per catch, 91 yard long and 6 tds.
the only thing comparable is the Tds
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And the yardage is within 100 and then YPC is roughly ballpark.
Over a 16 game season?? Seriously. Why do you hate Knox? You are a Bears fan right?
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I don't think he hates Knox
Rather he is just being tough on him, and when a WR has a hand in 75% of your QB’s ints well….it simply doesn’t look good on one’s resume.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 24, 2011 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't hate Knox
Simply pointing out that Jackson beats Knox in all statistics you can throw out. You can’t compare Jackson to Knox. At all.
My beef with Knox has nothing to do with Knox at all. I like Knox, he’s fast, very fast, that’s about all he is. No my beef with Knox is not Knox at all, but the Chicago fans who at the end of last year were clamoring about how Knox “needed to step it up” and whatnot and how he didn’t preform up to par, but yet this year they are talking about how he should be handed the #1 spot over a guy who has produced more than Knox over the past 2 seasons (yes Williams has you can’t deny it). Williams was brought in to be the #1 WR therefor it’s his job to lose.
Are you saying that had we brought in Vincent Jackson, Syndey Rice, Brandon Marshall, or even OchoCinco, that they wouldn’t be handed the starting job, that they would have to “beat out Knox” for the #1 spot? That’s ludicrous. They would be brought in to play the #1 spot in the offense and would have every chance to be the #1 until they were clearly beaten out by someone else.
Knox is not better than Williams.
If anything the battle should be between Bennet and Williams.
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Or Bennett vs Hester
I like that he is now the full time starter in the slot, but why isn’t Bennett getting a chance to line up outside?
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 24, 2011 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
He may be best suited for the slot.
Strong receiver. Reliable. Makes for good match-ups on the inside. A lot of time he will be up against a LB or a Safety which is favorable for the Bears.
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What do you think this whole discussion is about??
Are you saying that had we brought in Vincent Jackson, Syndey Rice, Brandon Marshall, or even OchoCinco, that they wouldn’t be handed the starting job, that they would have to "beat out Knox" for the #1 spot?
Yeah if Roy Williams was one of those guys then yeah, knock Knox ass to special teams. But Roy isn’t on that level. Hell he’s not on Knox’s level at this point. Fact remains is that he didn’t earn the job.
And no Knox’s numbers aren’t that far off from Jackson’s.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
Obviously someone thinks
Williams is better than Knox seeing as he’s ahead of Knox on the depth chart.
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Probably Martz
Who also thinks Todd Collins is Better than Hanie…Hanie may not be that good but It’s Todd FRACKIN Collins he on a Dilfer level type of “suck”
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Still..
They’re professional coaches. I know sometimes we as fans think “Hey i could call the game better”. When in reality, no we couldn’t. They surround their life around pro football. it’s all they do.They know the game better than we could ever hope to. They obviously see something in Williams that they like.
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by suckmyditka on Aug 25, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah...
But idk if most of us got over Todd FRACKING Collins and the Manatee (well we got over him). (and yeah the FRACK is part of his name.) Hence why there are some Martz doubt here. But honestly hope he doesn’t lay an ostricth egg
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Like Zaidmen just tweeted
ZachZaidman Zach Zaidman
It’s a low risk, high reward signing. Why are so many freaking out?
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by suckmyditka on Aug 25, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
he just played the "Todd Collings" card your suppose to give up now.
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--Doug Plank
Can't do it
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by suckmyditka on Aug 25, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats a lie.
It’s not low risk, because this team’s window at a super bowl is not wide open with the defense aging. Hoping that this guy can help carry the offense and not going after a bonafide stud WR may possibly derail this team.
Yeah
and those same professional coaches thought it was OK to give Adam Archuleta a starting job while shipping Chris Harris out for a 5th round pick…Ooops!
So it’s not about thinking we know more but Martz has shown a recent history of elevating his guys at the expense of others. We might have cost ourselves a SB because of it and I’m not looking forward to Martz getting the same chance to goof it up again. If Williams proves he’s the better WR…cool. Until then, Knox shouldn’t have been demoted.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
And no
Not defending Knox or kicking “your boy Roy” just saying…
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Screw Jackson's overrated a**
Just can’t stand the hype as much as I can’t stand the jets
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How is he overrated?
He’s preformed every year in the pros so far.
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This is irrational hate that I have
Can’t stand his hype (not him personally) can’t stand the jets, Kinda dislike philly
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I believe fully
his hype is totally deserved. He’s good. Period.. i know it’s hard for us Chicagoans to believe hype by a player of another team, but for real, this dude is legit. I believe him to be the 4th best receiver in the NFl (behind Fitz, Megatron, Andre Johnson ).
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by suckmyditka on Aug 24, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Well then
Good for your opinion…clap, clap, clap :) Although I would have Roddy White over him and B Marsh over him. (I personally like my all rounder types with size and speed than the pure speed type…but it’s my opinion).
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Yes Roddy White is really good.
But idk. That whole offense is really good. Lol
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by suckmyditka on Aug 24, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
until this year White hasn't had a Wr to compete for catches with
Jackson has had Maclin, Celek, blah blah blah
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by suckmyditka on Aug 24, 2011 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
here's a link to his stats. Tell me how he's overrated again?
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Last 2 seasons weren't fair for Williams
When Tony Romo happened to be BFFs with Witten as well as being on a team who loves to run the football, you’re not going to get as many looks as he would have in a pass heavy offense like ours. And the coaching staff…not the best there is.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 24, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
You all are wrong, wrong,wrong
Williams is the best WR on this team. He runs the cleanest routes and can beat press coverage better than anyone else.
Bennet is the second best WR on this team with Hester a close third. Knox is the 4th best Wr on this team because he doesn’t posses any skills other than the 9 route and the fade. Yeah he’s fast, but he also drops passes and he cannot beat press coverage or run a friggin simple slant route. Period.
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yeah but Pompei said (and he has resourses) blah blah
Williams real crime is having the worst celebration dance in the NFL
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
And you two HAVE to be right about this because....
that’s your opinion and your opinion is the correct one? I wish you just said this to begin with. We wouldn’t have had to waste all this time.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
A wise man once told me to just ignore.....
actually, more like a wise guy, but you get my drift.
Aren’t you proud of me for sort of taking your advice?
and you two wise guys are always right because you agree with each other? brilliant!
why not take time right now to quote something witty from Pompei.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
I have never told you you are wrong Ed.
I have disagreed with you and your opinion but I’ve never (at least I can’t remember) told you you were wrong. Only begged to differ.
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Agreed
Lets also look at some more stats shall we? In 28 starts under Martz as a Lion, Roy Williams with a little over 130-140 recs had over 2,148 yards and 12 TDs. Let’s think about those numbersfor a minute. He didn’t even start all 16 games in 2007 due to injuries, yet he was just a little over 100 yards shy of tying Knox’s production with yards, and matched his TD total with 5. Johnny Knox is coming off his best year, which didn’t touch 1,000 yards. Roy Williams at his best = ALL-PRO, with 83 recs 1,310 yards and 7 TDs.
What separates these two further are the facts Roy Williams not only knows where he is supposed to be, but he also doesn’t cost his QB ints like Knox did last season. If Johnny Knox did what he was supposed to do, then we wouldn’t have brought in anyone to begin with. Knox has dug himself into this hole, where he is competing against someone more familiar as well as productive in the Martzfense.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 24, 2011 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Knox is in his third season and has gotten better each year.
You want to compare this to Roy in his prime? Lets look at what both have done recently. I’d say they’re about even. Yes Roy was the 3rd last year but in an offense than passed first ran second. Does Johnny have some areas to improve upon? Of course. Is he showing improvement? I think so. I think Knox is developing into a fine wide receiver. Anointing Roy the “Best” because of past accomplishments sounds a little grandiose and more than a tad desperate. But what do I know, I’m one of the wrong.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
Hey I can be wrong too for drinking the kool-aid on Roy
He can simply stay in the form he is in now and piss us all off. I was just pointing out to when Williams was in the same style of offense as Knox is in now, rather than compare two different players from two different offenses.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 24, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
But you are not The Wrong.
The rest of us are.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
We all could be wrong
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 24, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
But he said we are all wrong.
repeatedly. Apparently anyone who doesn’t see thing his way (like you appear to) is wrong. You are not one of the wrong. I am. Lines have been drawn.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
I see...
Well I’m on the fence then; he has the resume and the potential, and while its only preseason, he has yet to show the once pro-bowl WR can return to his former greatness.
Bottom line…at least we didn’t give him some monster contract….
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 24, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh and...
If Johnny Knox did what he was supposed to do, then we wouldn’t have brought in anyone to begin with. Knox has dug himself into this hole, where he is competing against someone more familiar as well as productive in the Martzfense.
We brought in a number 3 to compete with a bunch of 2’s. Roy will fit in, but I doubt he shines. Knox’s arrow is pointing up, Roy’s has been declining for a while.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
Said #3 used to be a #1
Its a tricky issue. And its not like Roy Williams is 33+ years old, rather he is 29 so he still has some time left to return to glory.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 24, 2011 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
A "#1" for how long exactly?
He signed his big contract and then apparently decided that was enough.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
His "performance" could be seen that way
Or it could be simply becuase he didn’t fit into what Dallas was trying to do with him. This is the year where if he wants to be legit once again, he has to show it this year.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 24, 2011 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
sometimes us fighting between ourselves makes me smh
we get all heated up…none of the stats we use, opinions we have or preconceived notions we hold tight to have any outcome on the Bears what so ever and I think we sometimes forget that as a fanbase
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 25, 2011 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
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I for one would have taken Braylon over Roy
They are both pretty similar aside that Braylon is younger (and imo a better option) and only had 1 drop last year for that one year contract (He’s dumb) But played better than Roy(and NO I DONT care about what he did in Detroit) cause that’s years ago and before the (blah blah Martz guy blah blah) I only care about recently, and i know this. if he does suck this year (which I think that we would be average to a bit above average and not suck) but if he does then I will be incredibly pissed. But im gonna wait until the reg (minimum 5 games) season to reserve judgement…
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