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My case for starting Amobi Okoye

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   With all this fuss over who should start at WR and how good is our O-Line going to be, topped off with how concerned should we be over LB depth and our D against the running game, there has been someone whom has been ignored greatly over this preseason, and its a DT. No, its not Henry Melton. It definitely ain't Matt Toeina nor Stephan Paea. Here is a clue, he is wearing #91, and you better not say Tommie Harris. I'll let you figure out who it is after the jump.

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   Give up? The answer is..... Amobi Okoye. Throughout the year we have been wondering who would step up and fill the void left by Tommie Harris years ago when said former pro-bowler tore his knee apart, only to virtually never be heard from again in terms of production. DT in particular 3T has been a concern as it is perhaps the key position in our Tampa 2 style 4-3 defense. Henry Melton has certainly looked great at times, and continues to improve. But, when we are without Anthony Adams in the rotation, a noticible differance has emerged when defending against the run, in addition to additional pressure from DTs in general. Someone has to step up and take the reigns before it gets out of control. And personally, I feel we already have said player on our team, and he wears #91.

  Amobi Okoye not only has produced for the D-Line, he is the production. All 4 sacks recorded on the D-Line, which is led by All-Pro/Pro-Bowl DE Julius Peppers, have been recorded by Amobi Okoye. I don't care if its just preseason, as recording 4 sacks in 3 games is impressive by any standards, especially by a DT. And its not like its all against 2nd teamers, he has had his fair share of snaps against starters and still produced. Shoot just last night we saw him swat the ball out of the sky. And unlike what Mark Anderson was, Okoye is anything but a 1 trick pony.

   With all the grief given about the run defense without Lance Briggs and Anthony Adams, Amobi Okoye has more than held his own in that department. His one problem coming out of Houston was his ability against the run in a 2-gapped version of the 4-3. Biggest difference between our scheme andtheir scheme, we tend to run a good amount of 1 gap stunts for our "Rushmen", and Amobi certainly has benefitted from this. He has improved and at times looked dominant against the run, just needs to get more consistent. Otherwise, he has been the most impressive DT all round given his tremendous pass-rushing skills and improved play against the run.

   After a great deal of analyzing, I feel Henry Melton, Anthony Adams, and Amobi Okoye are our best 3 DTs on our roster. There is no telling as to how long AA will remain sidelined, and with us going up against the high powered offense from Atlanta led by Matt Ryan, we have to figure this out now. Place Henry Melton and Amobi Okoye as our starters at DT, with Melton playing 3T and Okoye as the NT, and I truly feel we can have a great interior presence to go with our bookends Israel Idonije and Julius Peppers.

  

   Someone has to step up, and I feel our best bet is wearing #91.

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Does he need to start?

Or just be the first guy off the bench? I figure the DT spots for us are going to be hotly contested for playing time, and with Okoye stepping up he should be 1 or 2 at his position. Either way I’m pleasantly surprised with his production (albeit in the preseason) and like what he brings to the table. Our tackles are not a supremely talented bunch, but a deep group with a wide variety of skill sets and specialities.

If its free, take two.

by T.J. Shouse on Aug 28, 2011 4:34 PM CDT reply actions  

I feel with Adams hurting

Okoye should start to give the Bears the best two DTs on the field at all times with Amobi and Henry.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 28, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not like the Bears are going to just use 2 DTs

4 or 5 will play. We know that Amobi will be in on 3rd downs and obvious passing downs, so I personally don’t feel he needs to play every 1st down too. I’m fine with starting Melton and Toeina until AA comes back.

by runningman on Sep 2, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you start melton

and let him lose that spot in actual games. Doesn’t matter that much — ideally they play about half the snaps each and we have a fresh guy on every down. What a difference in quality and depth at 3T in 2 years!

by Sound_Automatic on Aug 28, 2011 4:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Okoye could also start at NT for a while

I feel if anything needs to be added, its that Amobi Okoye has shown his versatility.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 28, 2011 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I say

Corey Wooton should receive a bit more playing time
e.g. Peppers nd Idonije play 2 drives
Wooton steps in for Idonije one drive
stepis in for Pep next drive
he is a great young DE…could be a real steal, considerin he was a 1st-rd talent drafted in da 4th

by BOBdaBEAR on Aug 28, 2011 5:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Wootton is hurt

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by dabears85 on Aug 28, 2011 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

should be back for the opening..week 3 at the latest

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by suckmyditka on Aug 28, 2011 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also, Toeaina is beastin up the preseason

It’s rare to see a person work that hard. Roy Williams, pay attention

by BOBdaBEAR on Aug 28, 2011 5:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Toeiana Has looked good at times

 But I also feel Okoye offers a change of scenery at NT, someone can play the run yet be dangerous on 3rd downs.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 28, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

i just don't see Okoye

at Nose, at all. He has been decent against the run, but not anything stellar. He has been great rushing the passer, and deserves near equal opportunity at the 3 Tech at this point. Only time I want to see him at Nose is on a 3rd and long situation, or when we have a lead going into an opponents 2 min. drill.

"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin

by Brendan Hess on Aug 28, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying to make Okoye the full time starter at NT

Rather play him there to get him opportunities to make plays. I feel he can be a good NT and a great 3T. Definitely has the size to play both standing in at 6’2" 315 pounds.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 28, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will respectfully disagree

I doubt he makes a good NT….but I agree 100% on his potential at the 3T.

"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin

by Brendan Hess on Aug 28, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hasn't he taken a few snaps at nose?

Just curious

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 28, 2011 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

But Okoye has yet to man up well helmet to helmet (rather than gap up) with any consistency in his career. I’d be fine with being surprised, but it would almost be a waste…Adams, Toe, and Paea can all probably take good reps at Nose.

"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin

by Brendan Hess on Aug 28, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's true

What I like is the interchangeability with our DTs.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 28, 2011 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Paea has done absolutely nothing in camp , or pre-season

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by suckmyditka on Aug 29, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he could be a good 3rd down NT.

But as a starter? Over Adams? No. His skills seem to me to be best used as a rotational tackle. I agree completely.

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 29, 2011 6:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly what I was thinking...

On 3rd downs having 4 solid pass rushers on the line?

ILL TAKE IT!

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Aug 29, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

DT

I think the DT will rotate so everyone will have a chance to make plays. Really impressed w/Okoye so far though, hopefully he keeps it up.

by walterfan34 on Aug 28, 2011 6:23 PM CDT reply actions  

or an animated GIF

with “girls just wanna have fun”

Superman wears an Urlacher Jersey under his costume

by BearNecessities on Aug 29, 2011 3:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

A good solid rotation

is going to benefit the line more than whoever is penciled in at starter

Superman wears an Urlacher Jersey under his costume

by BearNecessities on Aug 29, 2011 3:22 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm with Brandan on this one.

I don’t see enough out of him as a booger to make me feel he has any business atarting the NT spot over Adams or even Toe. He’s more beneficial to the team as a situational pass-rusher in the rotation.

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 29, 2011 6:54 AM CDT reply actions  

lol a booger?

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by suckmyditka on Aug 29, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

clogging up the middle, lol.

Used to be a common nickname for DTs when run stoppers were still considered important by fans.

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 30, 2011 7:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol that's awesome

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders

It's all about THE []_[] baby!!!

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by suckmyditka on Aug 30, 2011 7:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're right for the most part

Anthony Adams is one of the best “boogers” in the league. I’m just saying Okoye would definitely be a better option than Marcus Harrison as a NT, Amobi Okoye offers versatility at DT, and would be perfect on 3rd down situations with Melton at 3T.

Also, I suggest allowing Okoye to play some NT because with his versatility, our defense becomes harder to predict. When you send your “boogers” out, good QBs can simply audible to a pass play. With Okoye, that won’t happen, where Okoye can hold his own against the run and still be a threat as a pass rusher.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 30, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Harrison doesn't belong onthe roster, and likely won't be.

And I’m fine with Okoye as a rotational player. Just not as the starter. Adams should be taking most of the snaps.

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 30, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

With Adams, I agree

But the problem is…how long will AA be out with that calf injury? If he’s ready to go, then you win this argument. But, if Adams is out for any long period of time, then I feel Okoye should get the nod and/or rotate with Toe.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 30, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Adams doesn't go, then....

Toe should start. Again, there’s a reason why players who don’t defend the run well are considered rotational players. Toe is a better run defender, and a couple of preseason sacks doesn’t make Okoye worthy of being a starter. A couple of weeks in Chicago hasn’t changed the problems he has against the run that caused Houston to dump him in the first place.

At this point, I cannot see any reason for Okoye to start. It should take more than just AA falling to make that happen. In fact, if AA and Toe fell, I would actually make the argument of moving Melton over to NT and Izzy back to 3Tech until they came back.

If you cannot contain the run without having to adjust your secondary and linebackers, you cannot control anything defensively. Okoye cannot do his part to contain the run and has no business starting. He has value as a pass rusher on third downs, but he isn’t solid enough in run defense to be anything more than an emergency starter.

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 31, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who starts at DT is a small matter

they will be rotating guys in and out, several will get a lot of PT, so starting is almost irrelevant

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by lookingdeadred on Aug 29, 2011 8:00 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I still want to see more sacks from our line... period.

All this raving about genius Rod Marinelli, and in the past two years we’ve had only 35 and 34 sacks… good for 13th and 17th in the league. Heck, our sack production didn’t even improve with the addition of Peppers, who was absolutely amazing last year. How is it even possible that our other lineman couldn’t take advantage of Peppers being doubled all the time?

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Aug 29, 2011 11:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Furthermore... all we do is draft defensive lineman every year!

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

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by SackMan on Aug 29, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Every year except last lol

But our D-Lineman have to produce

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 29, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't see it changing this year

we improved inside but I don’t like our DE depth at all. We really could use another end, its too bad Gholston still sucks.

"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin

by Brendan Hess on Aug 29, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully they can find some decent DE that gets cut once teams finalize their rosters.

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by badsamaritan on Aug 30, 2011 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okoye doesn't deserve to start right now.

He’ll be in the rotation and if he steps up later in the season then he can be a serious possibility for a starting position. He’s played well in the pre-season but not usually is he playing against starters so it wouldn’t make sense to anoint him a starting position based off of that. He’ll make the team and that’s good enough for now.

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Aug 30, 2011 4:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Get me a healthy AA

back first and foremost. Then look at a rotation between him and Toe and Melton. Perhaps Okoye can also work in there. WE need heft and girth at the center of the oline. I don’t believe that a Melton/Okoye DT combo is viable in this league.

by The Kaiser on Aug 31, 2011 4:44 PM CDT reply actions  

On obvoius passing down, I think that is exactly what you will see.

But other than that, no. I don’t think it would benefit the team to have them paired together.

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 3, 2011 2:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

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