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Jerry Angelo adds four 1st round picks to the Bears

Maybe this is just Jerry Angelo's way of getting back some of the 1st round talent he gave up in order to acquire Jay Cutler, or maybe he's just throwing spaghetti at the wall hoping something will stick.  Whatever the case, JA found a way to get four 1st round talents (they were at some point) in the fold with the Bears.  And he has the 3-4 defense to thank for two of them.

Star-divide

Angelo and Lovie Smith are hoping a 4-3 defensive end being converted to a 3-4 outside linebacker that resulted in an epic fail for the New York Jets, will be a diamond in the rough for the Bears.  Vernon Gholston was the 6th overall pick in the 2008 NFL Draft.  Many scouts looked at him frame (6'4" 258) and thought he's be a candidate to make the switch from DE to OLB in the pros.  They were obviously wrong.  Three years, 6 starts, 42 total tackles, and that's it.  Nary another stat to speak of.  Hell, even Bears 1st round bust Michael Haynes managed 5.5 sacks in his 3 years as a Bear.  Gholston is an undersized DE that has some speed.  Or to put it another way, he's the type of end Tampa 2 teams look for.  If he can find his form, keep himself motivated, and play a little pissed off after the debacle of career he's had so far, the Bears could have stole one.

The 3-4 claimed another player in former Houston Texans defensive tackle Amobi Okoye.  The Texans are switching to the 3-4 and the 6'2" 315 pound Okoye isn't a space eater nose tackle and he's not the a prototypical 5 technique DE, so Houston let him go.  This is a kid that's played 4 years in the NFL, yet is still just 24 years old.  He has 58 starts, including all 16 the last two years.  He was the 10th overall pick in 2007, and I find it odd that they didn't try and finagle a pick via trade for his services.  Maybe the shortened off season led them to wanting to simply get their guys in camp to start working on the new D.

The 3rd #1 draft pick Angelo picked up last week was the 26th overall selection from the 2005 Draft.  The Seahawks chose to go a different direction on their line, and allowed Chris Spencer to leave without much of a fight.  Spencer has 70 starts, mostly at center, in his 6 year career.  He looks bigger than Olin Kreutz, and he's listed bigger at 6'3" 309 (Olin was 6'2" 292).  His biggest challenge will be filling the ornery shoes of #57.  Kreutz was quick to protect his guys on the field, and his attitude endeared him to Bears fans.  I think Spencer should take issue with the first guy that touches his QB, and get after him Olin-style...  well maybe he should leave the dumbbell's alone, but you get my point.

The 4th, and final, #1 draft pick JA acquired was the 7th overall selection in 2004, wide receiver Roy Williams.  Williams has something to prove, and he should be in a comfort zone working with the offense that got him to the Pro Bowl, and with the position coach he had in college.  Could this be the perfect storm that allows Williams to put up some big numbers?  I think so.

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Now it's gah-bidge!

Nice read.

One year deals. Competition/depth. Former #1’s have an opportunity to redeem themselves. I think it’s a win.

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by Pete Dixon on Aug 4, 2011 11:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Im confident with all but one

Gholston- from the reports at camp it seems he’s just another body. Maybe that will change now that FAs are allowed to practice with the team.

by Gaak on Aug 4, 2011 11:34 AM CDT reply actions  

He hasn't been able to practice until today.

So lets wait to see what he does on the field before calling him a camp body.

"I must have made him mad. I stole his cheeseburger or something." - Olin Kreutz

by badsamaritan on Aug 4, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really like Okoye out of the three

I dont necesarilly expect him to live up to his draft position, but I really think that he could be a solid DT in our defense. Think about it, with 44 tackles and 3 sacks he was the most productive of any of the DT’s on the roster last season

by IndyBearsFan88 on Aug 4, 2011 11:35 AM CDT reply actions  

I think they all have the potential to do very well...

I am just concerned that they may not have the motivation/proper coaching to reach that potential…

I think Williams will be fine, he knows the offense and will have something to prove after Dallas.

Okoye in a 4-3 is exciting to me…I really am hoping this works out!!! I think it will.

Gholston in a 4-3 I hope will bring him close to the way he played in college…I hope.

Spencer is bigger and younger than Kruetz, I loved what Olin brought off the field, I was just getting sick of seeing him on the field…I think even though this seems like a bad move in the heart, I think it is the right decission in the head…

Unreasonable people make life difficult...

by WisBearsFan34 on Aug 4, 2011 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Who concerns you?
I am just concerned that they may not have the motivation/proper coaching to reach that potential…

Lovie, Martz, Drake, Marinelli, other?

When ever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft the aircraft changes it's call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 4, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Toub.

That guy’s a bum!

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by David Taylor on Aug 4, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Angelo isn't coaching,

and I hope he isn’t being brought down from the front office to deliver any motivation.

When ever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft the aircraft changes it's call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 4, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL I was kidding

just seemed like a good scapegoat for the subject matter at hand.

by Gaak on Aug 4, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha!

When ever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft the aircraft changes it's call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 4, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say Martz and Tice mostly...

Martz with Williams…I feel Williams will come in with a chip on his shoulder trying hard to prove that Dallas made a mistake…what worries me though is that Martz is already anointing him a 70+catch guy…I don’t want Williams to be the target de jour for Cutler only because Martz says so, like in the last game of the season where Knox was targeted over and over in hopes to get him to 1,000 yards…when others were open!!!!

Spencer with Tice…I have less concern, but it will be hard for him not to be the favorite to start at center unless he really stinks it up in the preseason…he has the job so motivation may be lacking…maybe not…

I still feel both were the right decission though….

Unreasonable people make life difficult...

by WisBearsFan34 on Aug 4, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

"I don’t want Williams to be the target de jour for Cutler only because Martz says so"

Martz is our Offensive Coordinator he calls the plays he has more say than anyone else about what the offensive will be doing.

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Aug 4, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I understand that...

but if Williams is double covered and Bennet is single covered why throw Williams just for the sake of throwing to Williams…

Unreasonable people make life difficult...

by WisBearsFan34 on Aug 4, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Martz isn't going to throw his playbook away just because Roy walked through the door.

If Roy comes up with 70 receptions it will mean the passing attack is doing a lot better than last year.

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Aug 4, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not trying to be negative on Williams...I actually like the pick up.

I just don’t want Martz to go “All In” with Williams at the expense of the other receivers and the offense as a whole…

Unreasonable people make life difficult...

by WisBearsFan34 on Aug 4, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the same playbook with the same options as last year

If the line holds up we will see some more deep routes but Martz playbook is designed to spread the ball around and and get it to the guys that are open. If Roy gets 70 then everyone else is getting more also. How is it that at WCG we all just assume that all of our coaches are a bunch of petty morons who only care about taking care of their favorites and screwing over other players for no reason?

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Aug 4, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

you mean the Chicago where coaches are always morons and players are never used properly?

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Aug 4, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

No...

The Chicago where everybody whines and moans worse than a redacted.

by Doshi on Aug 4, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

See Benson, Cedric

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by ThorCo on Aug 4, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

when did Benson play of Martz?

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Aug 4, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

he didn't, that was a reply to this
How is it that at WCG we all just assume that all of our coaches are a bunch of petty morons who only care about taking care of their favorites and screwing over other players for no reason?

"Word of advice, don’t join, Bears fans are crazy."--- D-Jackfan10

by ThorCo on Aug 4, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

But the coaching staff trusted him far to much,

and we lost Jones as a result. It seems sometimes that if Lovie likes a player, he’ll find ways to play him anywhere, but if he doesn’t, they end up in the dog house

"Word of advice, don’t join, Bears fans are crazy."--- D-Jackfan10

by ThorCo on Aug 4, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

that is just bulldookey

first of all Jones was no Walter Payton, and the team chose to go with a younger player with just as much talent as Jones there was no dog house involved. Other teams and other coaches do the same every year around the league, it’s called trying to improve your team and not every move works out. Lovie has the respect of the players in the locker room and he wouldn’t have that if he was a petty moron.

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Aug 4, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

dookie*

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by T.Moore on Aug 4, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got a D in english because I was a good football player. :o)

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Aug 4, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

I’m not gonna even argue with that cause you said dookie…I haven’t heard anyone say that since I was in first grade

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by ThorCo on Aug 4, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

you obviously aren't a Green Day fan then

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders

by suckmyditka on Aug 4, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see what you did

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Aug 4, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol and here I thought 1st graders swore like sailors these days

perhaps “your assumptions are intellectually challenged” would have been better?

If one of your favorite players is on the bench then he is in Lovie’s dog house. If you don’t think a player is playing well then Lovie is not holding player accountable and is playing favorites. Lovie and Martz and the rest of them put winning second to petty games they play with personnel and their ego’s.

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Aug 4, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe they do

I haven’t talked to a first grader in about 6 years. I don’t think Jones was a HOF’er, but when he was pushed to the side just to use Benson I disliked that. I have no problems with a player being bench if they suck (Marcus Harrison) but if a player is removed they should be given a slight chance to come back at some point in the season, like Ricky Manning Jr, Bowman and Aroma.

Now maybe they pissed and moaned behind the season and were terrible distractions but its odd that after solid seasons from each, the next season they were benched and rarely used. Just odd in my opinion

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by ThorCo on Aug 4, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jones was the #1 back

then held out of training camp with a hamstring injury… (or he wanted a new deal)… Jones and Angelo had a handshake agreement that if he reported to camp he would trade him after the season, Jones came to camp helped the Bears get to the SB, and JA kept his word

When ever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft the aircraft changes it's call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 4, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ah I don't remember that

I wasn’t on WCG at the time so I wasn’t informed to my fullest potential

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by ThorCo on Aug 4, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm here for

When ever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft the aircraft changes it's call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 4, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are very sage like in your wisdom.

My team is on the floor. -Coach Norman Dale

by Ditkavsworld on Aug 4, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Aroma never had a solid season anywhere

Bowman played his way out of a starting job and is now competing to get it back.
I never understood where all the love for Ricky Manning Jr. came from he started what 11 games out of 32 for the Bears and only managed to start 1 game in the nfl after that.

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Aug 4, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not talking about just starts alone

Aroma had his best season before last year, Bowman had 6 picks as the number 2 CB, Manning Jr was a very solid nickle back in our run to the Super Bowl

"Word of advice, don’t join, Bears fans are crazy."--- D-Jackfan10

by ThorCo on Aug 4, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

his best season was like 4 games

then he went back to being a dropapotomus.
Bowman had the starting job last year and lost it because he was playing poorly how is that being treated unfairly.
did Lovie blackball Manning and now he can only play in the ufl?
Lovie puts the best team on the field he can.The average career for an NFL player is 4 1/2 years so your going to see a lot of turn over it’s just part of the game.

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Aug 4, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Manning Jr was exiled to the Rams because we had too many good DBs

As we all know, St. Louis is where DBs go to die, unless you are named Aeneas Williams.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Aug 5, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watch Out!

Martz is the Master of overstatements.
The more superlatives he used to praise you, the better chance you have of being canned in some cases.
Case in point, Olsen, Olin, … Bennett and Garza, you better watch-out :(

pbanachi

by pbanachi on Aug 4, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

They better not cry?

They better not pout, I’m telling you why…
Martz and Tice are coming to [kick you out of] town…

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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 4, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

13 years...long time for the NFL

Olin was starting to slip.IMO…not on the STATS side but in pushed off the LOS and not moving his man but more just getting in the way…IMO anyway…we will miss the leader tho

by golfdell on Aug 4, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reading a little too much into "reports"

Gholston was an extremely talented DE coming out college, and was placed in an awkward position from the start.

He hasn’t even had a chance to practice yet. and the Hargrove rumors really swelled up the “camp body” rumors. If this kid plays to his college potential, we have a serious combo at DEs

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by BearNecessities on Aug 4, 2011 12:11 PM CDT reply actions  

That's what I'm hoping for...

Unreasonable people make life difficult...

by WisBearsFan34 on Aug 4, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks for reading

When ever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft the aircraft changes it's call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 4, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

sonofa...

your = you. F it you know what I meant.

My team is on the floor. -Coach Norman Dale

by Ditkavsworld on Aug 4, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

thank you for messing up a word

When ever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft the aircraft changes it's call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 4, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

No problem, that's what I'm here for.

My team is on the floor. -Coach Norman Dale

by Ditkavsworld on Aug 4, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

ha!

When ever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft the aircraft changes it's call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 4, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the Bears can keep Cutler protected, the Bears could be really good this year.

They have always had a top-5 defense and special teams, best return man of all time, and a decent running game. The only thing lacking from the Bears is a high octane passing attack, which Martz was brought in for that problem. If Roy Williams steps up and the o-line does its job, you can defintely keep the Bears in the division winning talks, if not superbowl.

It may or may not go as plan, the division is much improved, and the schedule is tougher for the Bears, but you never can count them out because they always seem to defy the odds and just win games.

From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!

by DLions4Eva on Aug 4, 2011 12:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

And if

they can run the damn ball it will be whole lot easier to protect Cutler.

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by phastphil on Aug 4, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

a legit running game has made Phil Rivers life a lot better

but I don’t remember anyone saying “That Phil Rivers can hand the ball off with the best of them”

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Aug 4, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never been a fan of Philip Rivers...

…and didn’t he have an in-his-prime Ladanian Tomlinson when he (Rivers) got to San Diego? Hard to argue that they didn’t have a “legit running game” then, if that was the case.

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by Tomorrows Blues on Aug 5, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Reversal of course for the Bears.

Usually they’re the team putting guys in new, unfamiliar positions and waiting for it to work out. In Gholston’s case, they’re taking a guy who had that done to him elsewhere and putting him back in his natural position.

by oripunk3485 on Aug 4, 2011 12:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe someone didn’t tell Jerry this. Bluff!

Just Dave (on possible new OL signings): JaMarcus Russell. He's been standing in front of better quarterbacks his entire career.

by Spongie on Aug 4, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chris Spencer is even bigger than listed

Read something saying he is 27 pounds heavier than Olin Kreutz. I feel he has the desire and the ability to be a solid if not a great Center for us.

I’m rather excited about Amobi Okoye at NT, started coming into his own last season in Houston and has started all 16 games the past two years. He is a definite upgrade over Marcus Harrison and he compliments Anthony Adams rather well. I think he is the NT for the future with the Bears, and if he along with Henry Melton and/or Stephan Paea emerge at 3T then we will have a rather dominant interior D-Line for years to come.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 4, 2011 12:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Unless they do great

then get signed away next offseason

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by ThorCo on Aug 4, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love all the picks

But I believe I can speak for the rest of us and say I wish he would have done a little bit more with the O-line but if the coachs feel comfortable with what we have then alright let’s do this.

by Jason Akker on Aug 4, 2011 12:51 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I am holding out hope

for a mid-level guard at some point in the off-season. A guy can dream, right? I would have liked a guard and a veteran tackle (to replace Omiyale as the swing the way its looking), but 2 is a bit ambitious now, so 1 I would settle for. Call it insurance.

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by Brendan Hess on Aug 4, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

38 days

until the opener. Let’s do this, indeed. Personally, I’m just hoping we shut Dilfer’s mouth.

by Virto on Aug 4, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bears D-Line has a wealth of high round pick on it
Julius Peppers = #1 overall
Vernon Gholston = #6 overall
Amobe Okoye = #10 overall
Stephen Paea = 2nd (#56 overall)
Anthony Adams = 2nd (#57 overall)
Tank Tyler = 3rd (#82 overall)
Marcus Harrison = 3rd (#90 overall)
Henry Melton = 4th (#105 overall)
Corey Wootten = 4th (#109 overall)

I think it’s safe to say that there’s no lack of talent in this unit.

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Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Aug 4, 2011 1:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Especially considering many had Paea getting drafted in the first round

and Wootten and Harrison were thought to be first round talent until injures

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by ThorCo on Aug 4, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Based on what we've seen from Harrison

It was a bit more than just injuries that caused scouts to stray away from him… I also remember reading something about him being involved in a small pot bust in college, after the Bears drafted him. But then again, he was in COLLEGE.

I think if he has the necesarry motivation he can be a good starter with that big frame lining up on the interior. Thing is, is if Marinelli can’t get get him to produce, I’m not sure how far Lovie’s leniency will go. Unless he makes some nice strides these next few weeks, I wouldn’t be surprised if they cut him.

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by GriggsBriggs on Aug 4, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well there was that too

but it was a one time thing after he was declared a team captain if I remember right, so eh. Lots of people smoke pot.

I saw on Twitter that Harrison had a meeting with the coaches later today…I think he gets the axe.

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by ThorCo on Aug 4, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

he should get cut

When ever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft the aircraft changes it's call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 4, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its a shame

his rookie year it seemed he had potential…but if he can barely get playing time in a defense like ours and improve with a DE like Peppers on the line then I’d say he’s a lost cause and should be cut, especially since he’s had conditioning issue 2 years running

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by ThorCo on Aug 4, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lack of effort was also a knock against him

when I look up old scouting reports. Not coming into camp in shape routinely, just reinforces that. He always had a lot of potential, but doesn’t look like he’ll put in the work to achieve it.

by runningman on Aug 4, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I don't know...

Maybe he was told to “bulk up” for the professional game, and took it literally…

Just Dave (on possible new OL signings): JaMarcus Russell. He's been standing in front of better quarterbacks his entire career.

by Spongie on Aug 4, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bulk up?

Or beef up?

"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."

by GriggsBriggs on Aug 4, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

What ch'you talkin' 'bout

Man come getta anotha bowl o’ this jambalaya. Now this some real fooooood.

"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."

by GriggsBriggs on Aug 4, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

We have too many DL for him to be worth keeping on to. I have no idea who Tank Tyler is but the fact that he’s shown nothing so far (even if we just signed him?) means he’s better than Marcus Harrison.

Just Dave (on possible new OL signings): JaMarcus Russell. He's been standing in front of better quarterbacks his entire career.

by Spongie on Aug 4, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

signed him at the end of the season

camp body from the Chiefs

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by ThorCo on Aug 4, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

See? That already makes him more productive than Marcus Harrison was for the whole of last season :-D

Just Dave (on possible new OL signings): JaMarcus Russell. He's been standing in front of better quarterbacks his entire career.

by Spongie on Aug 4, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

he was a featured in the KC version of Hard Knocks

When ever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft the aircraft changes it's call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 4, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe it was the munchies that got to him...

"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."

by GriggsBriggs on Aug 4, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wootton was also considered a 1st round talent.

He just had a nasty, nasty injury his Senior year. Bears IMO got a steal nabbing him in the 4th.

by Doshi on Aug 4, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

This line could become scary

if melton wooten and ghoston start to perform, plus paea, okoye and always dependable adams and idonije, then there’s peppers. a little more productive from those young guys and this defense can be better than last season, so if’s there

by Jdavidev on Aug 4, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Julius Peppers was the #2 overall pick.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Aug 5, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice piece, one possible quibble.

The fact that all these guys were 1st round picks may simply reflect that some (poor) NFL front offices are obsessed with triangle numbers and that these guys aren’t actually all that good football players which is why they have failed elsewhere.

Having quibbled (more with the Bears than with the author) the downsides of these moves are so small that I can’t see what harm it can do.

by weepingbear on Aug 4, 2011 1:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Just a thought
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
49ers sent out a mass email this afternoon to teams around the league to try and trade safety Taylor Mays.

I wonder what they’d want for him.

by boondock_saint812 on Aug 4, 2011 2:59 PM CDT reply actions  

he should move to LB

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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 4, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's what I thought coming out of USC

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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 4, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Weren't his instincts suspect?

or was that another safety I’m thinking about that just got drafted last year

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by ThorCo on Aug 4, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

You may be right

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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 4, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was fast

1 year? Gettum Jerry. I’d give a 4th or 5th rounder based on potential and move him to linebacker, but the 49ers probably want more

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by ThorCo on Aug 4, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he could be had on the cheap ....... just JA's style .

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by MidWayMonster54 on Aug 4, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look at this from profootballfocus

. They had okoye in the bottom 15 from the last three years for missed tackles. Idonije was #1, with no missed tackles in the last three years. I know Lovie has no love for guys that miss tackles, so hopefully he can improve in this regard.

by Kuma9 on Aug 4, 2011 3:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I think it was more to do with the style of 4-3 they were running in Houston

Im not sure but if I recall they ran a lot of 2 gap schemes for their DTs, where here in Chicago they run more 1 gap schemes. I feel Okoye would really benefit from playing in a scheme like ours. Besides the Texans as a team were terrible against the run, so it wasn’t like he was the only one missing tackles.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 4, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

what scheme was he in?

Was Okoye asked to be a 1 gap defender or a 2 gap?

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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 4, 2011 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking 2 gap

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 4, 2011 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Word From Thursday Night Practice so far

is that Okoye is good at rushing the passer but disappears during run plays,

Gholston doing well in his first practice.

Barber got stuffed JT Thomas in one play and gets stripped of the ball in another but still rushing well.

by Gaak on Aug 4, 2011 9:23 PM CDT reply actions  

thanks for the updates, gaak.

where are you getting them? I’m football starved.

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by MPG on Aug 4, 2011 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

...Kreutz,O-line + D-line options...

..Gentlemen, however blasphemous it may seem—Chris Spencer for Olin Kreutz is CLEARLY an upgrade at center. I was hoping for some more of the same at guard…but, the market was insanely bloated.. .the Falcons paid Justin Blaylock $25 million!!! Carl Nicks MIGHT be worth that, but it would’ve cost a 1st round pick as well (RFA). Now, I know what some of you are thinking and saying…" Olin was such a Great Leader", and " how could the Bears let this happen , especially for a measly half-mil..?" Bottom line..:Leadership won’t block Ndamakong Suh, BJ Raji or Kevin Williams. Kreutz was more valuable to the Bears than he was to any other team. Hence, the Bears offered TWICE his market value to stay for one year. Fearless Leader Olin is now playing for the Saints at HALF of what the Bears offered him….So, I think a better question would be " Olin was such a Great Leader, how could Olin let this happen , especially for a measly half-mil..?" If Spencer even approaches the potential he was drafted on, the Bears scored BIG, if he does what he has been doing for the last six years…it’s a marked improvement. O-LINE: Chris Williams would be cut if he was’nt a 1st rounder. Lance Louis has a definite shot, here…Omiyale is a journeyman reserve, nothing more. While I do like the potential of Webb and Carimi, zero depth scares me. The Bears are gonna try Webb at LT, but, I see Carimi moving there eventually. Garza is our best run-blocker, he stays put at RG after Spencer settles in. The hole is at LG. Spencer, Garza, Webb and Carimi are likely starters. D-LINE: I’m REALLY starting to like what is happening, here. This rotation is talented, deep and a nice blend of veterans and youth. Peppers, Idonije, Gholston and Wooten at DE…Adams,Paea, Melton and Okoye at DT…That leaves Toeinia and Harrison…My money’s on Toe. This unit could very well become the strength of the team.

by Beardawg on Aug 8, 2011 2:32 AM CDT reply actions  

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