Contracts for the Bears New Additions and Other Camp Developments
by Steven Schweickert on Aug 7, 2011 7:51 PM CDT
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This might be old news to some of us, but if you're curious about where the Bears' new players' contracts stack up, ESPN Chicago's Michael Wright put together a comprehensive list. Your eyes don't deceive you - the highest amount for the new additions belongs to... Punter Adam Podlesh at a $2.9 million cap hit. Please tell me that's a typo.
Other numbers on that list include Marion Barber's $2.25 million, Amobe Okoye making more than Gabe Carimi ($1.382 million to $1.282 million), and the Matts (Spaeth and Spencer) each making more than Gabe Carimi ($2.33 million and $2.25 million, respectively.)
Other Sunday news bits after the jump...
The recently bulked-up Henry Melton has been getting the first team reps at Tommie Harris' old spot, the three-tech. According to Jerry Angelo...
"The plan is for him to play more, and hopefully be a starter," Angelo told ESPNChicago.com at the NFL owners meetings. "Everything we saw this past year we liked. The arrow's going up. We feel, physically speaking, he's got everything you want in terms of size, speed, toughness. Now it's just a matter of learning the position that will come with the repetition of more plays."
And Lovie Smith...
"Everything you're looking for in a defensive lineman... I'm talking about quickness, speed, strength. He's gotten his weight up. He's a good pass rusher inside. I just think he has everything that you're looking for," Smith said. "Right now he just needs to play and continue to get reps."
So physically, he's what you want, and he just needs to get reps. Got it, folks.
Meanwhile, Sanzenbacher Sickness continues to grab hold of Bourbonnais, as the hyped Mike Hass V 4.0 has been all over the place, even taking first team slot reps away from potential starter Earl Bennett. Receivers coach Darryl Drake:
"Seeing is believing ... You can't minimize the fact he's done some good things. I'm not. You know, this game is based on production. The opportunities are based on production. Now, he's got to go out there in the preseason and prove it against other people, but he's going against some pretty good guys now. ... I'm trying to put him in the most stressful situations I can put him in."
... "Are we ready to crown him? No... But we do see something there and so we are just going to continue and help him develop."
Roberto Garza's been with the first team at center, while Chris Spencer works out with the second team; also, Tim Jennings is making a play for the second cornerback spot.. For more from yesterday's sessions and continuing updates, check out Laurence Holmes' blog at CBS Chicago.
But Jennings isn't the only cornerback fighting for that spot - Josh Moore added ten pounds of muscle this offsesaon after the coaching staff felt he didn't have the upper body strength necessary.
If you've heard anything else on the Twitters that you want to discuss tonight, have at it. So what do you think?
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the new rookie wage scale is a good thing
When ever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft the aircraft changes it's call sign to Bear Force One.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 7, 2011 8:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Amen.
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 7, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Dang Sanzenbacher looks like a beast out there in the slot
Always knew he had talent but to be an UDFA yet going so far as to take some of the 1st team reps away from Bennett is rather impressive. I think he could definitely be an outstanding #4 WR for this Offense.
Any word as to when Chris Spencer will be getting any of the 1st team reps?
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 7, 2011 8:05 PM CDT reply actions
Right now...
the thing is Garza knowing the line calls over Spencer.
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 7, 2011 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Thayer said it's not a big deal though
Something to the effect that if Garza called them from guard it wouldn’t be a big deal cause the linemen should already know their adjustments.
Also mentioned it’s only a matter of time before Spencer takes over at center.
"All we needed was a ladder, some tennis balls and a timer. My uncle is old-school." - Henry Melton
I saw that...
The only possible difficulty would be getting the call to Webb from RG, but Thayer said that wouldn’t be much of an issue.
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 7, 2011 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
but can he play special teams?
either way, just read a piece abt knox workin w/ 2nd team (williams + hester starters)?
im thinkin, “whaaaa…???!”
knox and bennett should be starters (play 70+% of offensive snaps) williams around 55-60%, and hester, hopefully, b/w 40 and 50% of snaps
If he is playing well, I support Hester 100%
he had the 3rd best hands/reception % on the team last year, we know he is elusive in the open field, and its not like Knox won’t rotate in. Let the best players play.
Knox did well for a 2nd year late round draft pick…Knox did not do that well for a starting wide receiver. His reception %, drops, interceptions against ratio, and blocking all need a good bit of work (I do like him, I just try to keep it realistic). He is more of a Lance Moore type of player, aka a good #3 receiver who can stretch the field deep, as long as you don’t ask him to go across the middle, run slants, or get a tough block. He should thrive off the line because it helps in escaping the press too, a real bane for him the last two seasons. Knox against a 3rd CB/LB would be silly, but against a starting quality CB he has struggled and disappeared often.
I thought Bennett would blow up camp this year with his consistency, and may still when they get on the field, but if its Hester, let him play.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
Right
Also I felt Devin Hester just made better plays than Johnny Knox. Hester has been improving over the years just needs to get the ball in his hands. Roy Williams looks to be the big target/go get it guy where Hester is your homerun threat and Bennett is a great 3rd down player. Each of them compliment the other, and thus have a balanced as well as a very versatile WR corps.
Knox has been a decent player, but in no ways should he be handed a starting job unless he truly deserves it. I’m thinking if Hester and Bennett were the 1 and 2 last season Cutler would have not thrown for double digit ints. Knox had a hand in 12 of Cutler’s 16 ints last year. This is a tough yet wise move as Knox has to show he is a dependable player in the Martzfense, and last year was unacceptable.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 7, 2011 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
By all accounts
Devin Hester is having an outstanding camp so far. It looks like he might be our “#1” after all…
by NorthSideBearsFan on Aug 8, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
So what happens exactly with Sanzenbacher if he continues to excel
Drake cautions people not to assume Sanzenbacher is a lock to make the team — last year the Bears kept five receivers on the 53-man roster
Seems to me the bears already have 5 receivers: Hester/Williams/Bennett/Knox/Hurd. The Bears should go into the season with 6 this time around shouldn’t they? Considering Hurd/Hester/Knox will play a part in special teams.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
They'll carry 6 if Dane is that good
No way he’ll slip through to the practice squad… unless he has an “injury” of some sort
When ever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft the aircraft changes it's call sign to Bear Force One.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 7, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
interesting
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Aug 7, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
well played
When ever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft the aircraft changes it's call sign to Bear Force One.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 8, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Very well played.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Aug 10, 2011 6:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Bad redshirts
I really dislike these bears redshirts. They did it with Unga, and they’ve done it with a few other guys. I get that the ankle sprain lets you keep a guy until the next camp, but they can’t practice if you put them on IR. That seems to be what most of these need. The Bears need to either put them on the team instead of current depth, or take their chances with the practice squad.
better to redshirt them so they can study the playbook
than cut them to stash them on PS and watch them get signed away
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It's a very distinct possibility they break camp with six.
If Sanzenbacher keeps this up, there’s no way the Bears can PS him, he’ll get snapped up faster than The Fever did.
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 7, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
he won’t clear waivers and end up on the practice squad. I was kind of pissed off when they tried doing that with dan lefevour so they could keep todd “disaster” collins.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
its horrible in hindsight
but at the time, I saw the logic. Hanie got hurt in preseason, so they had to go get a vet to be #2.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
Which turned out
to be the worst personnel move of the entire year. Had Martz’s stamp all over it.
"All we needed was a ladder, some tennis balls and a timer. My uncle is old-school." - Henry Melton
stop making sense
When ever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft the aircraft changes it's call sign to Bear Force One.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Aug 8, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Buh, buh, buh....
FANTUZ!!!!!!!!
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
Fantuz Fever has given way to Sanzenbacher Sickness, Dave.
Throw your meds away and catch it! (Ba dum tss…)
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 7, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's predict the next disease and preemptively name it.
How about Ugna Ulcers, or Paea Prostatitis, or even Linnenkohl Leprosy?
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
by Just Dave on Aug 7, 2011 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
How about Louis Gehrig's Disease,
Thomas Tuberculosis, the Spencer Shakes (I think we’d get a lot of that…), the Williams Willies…
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 7, 2011 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Green!
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 7, 2011 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
And you're not even playing along.
Here I had Conte Chlamydia waiting in the wings…..
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
he has practice squad written all over him
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
We only carried 5 receivers last year, but we also carried 4 TEs
With Olsen out of the picture, you have to figure we’ll carry 6 WRs.
Pat Riley is the devil.
And four RBs (Forte, Taylor, Bell, Wolfe).
Figure that could get cut down to three (Forte, Barber, Taylor/Bell).
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 7, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
... Yeah, forgot about him. Never mind then?
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 7, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly, do you think we'll keep Taylor?
I can’t see him making the roster. But I can see fans catching a case of Taylor Tendonitis. Just Sayin’.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
I bet Taylor's out.
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 7, 2011 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
No way he makes it!
Sombody needs to tell Harvey that it was his WIFE that had the baby!
He’s been holding her hand for over 5 days now and skipping an already shortened training camp. After redshirting all of last season, this Dumb A** needs to be told that if he has any desire to feed that wife and kid, he needs to go get his afore mentioned Dumb A** back into training camp!!!
pbanachi
What if Mrs Unga had a difficult birth and mother and/or baby were gravely ill?
I’m sure the “aforementioned Dumb A***” would be most grateful for your professional advice, Dr Pbanachi.
Just Dave (on possible new OL signings): JaMarcus Russell. He's been standing in front of better quarterbacks his entire career.
What if ... what if ... what if ...
pbanachi
exactly
what if. You don’t know. That’s harsh judgment for a guy that was a team player last year (taking the fake injury red-shirt instead of a chance to sign with another team, which we believed he would or we wouldn’t have red-shirted him, we would have waived/practice squad’ed the guy.)
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
What the Hess said. We don’t know what’s going on there, but Dr Pbanachi (sarcasm fully intended) spouts personal speculation like it’s the truth. Well done, you really are a Chicago sports fan.
Just Dave (on possible new OL signings): JaMarcus Russell. He's been standing in front of better quarterbacks his entire career.
Point Taken.
When Peanuts little girl was having her heart problems we all (Fans and Players), knew and supported his family. Also Peanut was an established Vet and knew the system/schem he was in. For what-EVER reason, Harvey missed the better part of a week, it will hurt him that much more. That was my point and I could have been more sensitive.
pbanachi
by pbanachi on Aug 8, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
With the crowded numbers vying for limited places in the backfield and his low draft status and inability to contribute last season, I don’t doubt Unga and his agent/advisors are fully aware of that. Meathead kneejerk reactions lacking in and/or ignorant of facts – like I’ve noticed yours tend to be, no offence intended – don’t help anything or anyone.
Just Dave (on possible new OL signings): JaMarcus Russell. He's been standing in front of better quarterbacks his entire career.
Offence taken
Extended hand slapped away and followed by a “Meathead” Moniker.
Also,
Don’t understand the “Every-time” reference?
Clique Code?
pbanachi
Seems pretty self-explanatory: every time I read a kneejerk meathead comment, there’s a better than even chance your name is at the end of it. I freely admit that, as a foreign sport, my understanding of and ability to appreciate the subtleties of gridiron is necessarily limited, but I recognise hyperbole and overreaction when I see it.
Just Dave (on possible new OL signings): JaMarcus Russell. He's been standing in front of better quarterbacks his entire career.
Please don’t feed the meatheads.
Just Dave (on possible new OL signings): JaMarcus Russell. He's been standing in front of better quarterbacks his entire career.
When said meathead is being contrite
I applaud the action.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
Every time, though. Every time.
Just Dave (on possible new OL signings): JaMarcus Russell. He's been standing in front of better quarterbacks his entire career.
A step in the right direction is simply that.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
G.Wolfe is gone
I can’t see Taylor staying. Im thinking Forte/Barber/Bell Does Will Ta’ufo’ou kind of fit in there too? If so I see Unga being relegated to the practice squad.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
I think Ta'ufo'ou is out, there's hardly a place for him.
Wolfe was here last year, which is the first RB set. I suppose Unga could hit the PS, but I’m not sure he would make it there; some team hurting at RB might want to take a closer look at him. I don’t think Taylor sticks around.
I guess they could keep four, Forte/Barber/Bell/Unga, so ignore my idiot comment.
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 7, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I could see Ugna (and his Ulcers)
playing FB. If we carry him.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
Rather not carry Unga's Ulcers.
Eww.
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 7, 2011 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm thinking Dez Clark will be the primary H-Back/FB this season
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 7, 2011 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Hurd is more of a ST addition than a WR even though that’s where he’ll be listed. If Sanzenbacher is doing as good as they say then he’ll make the team (provided that he plays well in the pre-season games).
I find it hilarious
That Dane would be on an NFL team before his teamate Pryor.
"I see PRIDE, I see POWER, I see a BADASS MOTHA WHO WON'T TAKE NO CRAP OFF NOBODY!"
Sanzenwhatshisname...
I like to see effort guys succeed. Sometimes the desire to succeed is strong enough to make a team. He’s got an uphill battle, but if he’s any good, he’ll make the team for ST alone. Maybe the offensive brain trust will find a place for him, heaven knows they don’t have any extra room for competent guards!
I can still spell Sazenbacher
Better than Houshmanzadeh
"I see PRIDE, I see POWER, I see a BADASS MOTHA WHO WON'T TAKE NO CRAP OFF NOBODY!"
And still wrong.
Sanzenbacher.
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 7, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait Whoseyourmamma???...
I’ll take this San, how about just Dane for now! He seems to have talent; but let’s wait for preseason reps to find out if he’s any good.
I keep seeing more of this....
“Carimi and Lance Louis do a solid job against Idonije and Melton on three consecutive plays.”
Looks like the Right is starting to form up with Louis and Carimi…I know, I know, let’s wait for the actual pre-season games and such…Its just nice to hear, because the left is ALWAYS bad news (Williams and Webb). they have been “blocked one” or “blocked none” reports. Still early in camp, I just think its refreshing to hear something nice about any part of the line….but if we speculate, what does that mean for Garza if Spencer grabs the Center spot? How do we cast E. Williams? Can any of them play left guard?
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
and
BradBiggs Brad Biggs
Gabe Carimi looking solid tonight at RT. Strong hand punch.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
Awesome !! Any reports on how Webb is handling the LT spot ?
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Aug 7, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
none that I have liked...
still early in camp though. He moved back over to RT tonight for a bit, don’t know if it actually means anything though, I am not there, just getting twitter feeds.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
I'd kinda prefer him at RT & move Carimi to LT ....
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Aug 7, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
A few more to share.
ZachZaidman Devin Hester catches a bomb along sideline from Jay Cutler. A training camp trend this year. The connection continues.
skjensen There’s that rookie safety Chris Conte. Tips a Hanie pass and who picks it off? DJ Moore.
mikecwright Has Wootton gotten better or is Carimi struggling? Might be a little of both as Wootton blows past twice more on back to back play.
ZachZaidman It’s clear the competition from Sanzenbacher has brought out the best in Bennett tonight. Some tough catches tonight.
Practice is over for everyone minus the offensive line who finishes up with a few gassers.
Mike Tice says the first unit OL right now will start regular season as is unless they falter in preseason
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
to clarify....
Mike Tice says unless OL falters in preseason, Bears will open up with LT Webb, LG Williams C Garza RG Louis RT Carimi. JD
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
I guess that means...
Spencer and Omiyale are the swing backups, and maybe E. Williams as the project keeper?
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
So in essence 4 of the players who appear to be starters all were starters at some point last year
Is there any chance another player could emerge to overtake CW at LG? And is there a chance for Spencer to start this year with Garza moving back to RG?
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 7, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
There is another option...
If Louis performs at RG and Garza can decently play center, Spencer can kick Williams out of LG and play there, or if Spencer is hardset at C or Garza struggles, Louis takes over at LG, Garza shifts to RG and Spencer plays C.
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 7, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I mentioned playing Spencer at LG on another thread
He definitely has the size and ability to play either Guard or Center. Apparently Lance Louis has made strides at Guard this year.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Aug 7, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a plausible idea.
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by Steven Schweickert on Aug 7, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Talk about a recipe for disaster...
Let’s hope the Bears wise up and get a good guard to play in the interior line. Jay won’t last past the preseason if these guys are the answer. Webb showed some promise, but to pair him with the proven failure that is CW assures that Webb will have to be otherworldly to just hold his own. How soon before Martz starts calling sprint right passes on a regular basis?
"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"
by LostInSTL on Aug 8, 2011 5:33 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ohh hell no he can stay on the market ......
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Aug 7, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
So sounds like Fantuz doesnt have a chance
of making this squad. With Sanzabacher and Hurd in the mix it will actually make preseason interesting for these wideouts. This picture could change after actual game reps. Glad to see competition at the position, I didn’t think there would be much a month ago.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Aug 7, 2011 11:49 PM CDT reply actions
Am I the only person hoping
that Bowman or Moore beat out Jennings at Corner. Because if we start another season with Jennings, oh boy.
by baseballguru589 on Aug 8, 2011 12:59 AM CDT reply actions
There are many ways of evaluating a team’s defensive performance, but it’s interesting to see that – in a scheme in which the focus is to stop the run and short passing gains are traded for opportunities to force turnovers and killing drives, we had the second-stingiest run defense behind Pittsburgh, and held opposing QBs to the third-lowest regular season QB rating behind only Pittsburgh and Green Bay.
Damn that Tim Jennings for dragging our entire defense down to the depths of mediocrity. Damn his eyes, I say!
Just Dave (on possible new OL signings): JaMarcus Russell. He's been standing in front of better quarterbacks his entire career.
Bears Defence in 2011
I ran across an interesting article that picks the Bears to be the 5th ranked defence in 2011 though they may have meant from a fantasy stand point.
http://sportschatplace.com/fantasy/meany/2011/august/7/fantasy-football-draft/
Regardless. You must be happy with how they described your DEs. (I am an Idonije fan if you didn’t know by now).
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 8, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
we started last season with Bowman but he was horrible that's how Jennings got in
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Hope Josh Moore has a good chance now that he bulked up!
He is a bigger body than Jennings and probably has more speed
How about a Carimi pancake for your A$$
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