Know Your Foes - NFC North Edition
With preseason games about to commence, its time to check in on our NFC North counterparts to see if they've made the strides necessary to unseat the division champion Bears. Everybody Jump, Jump!
We've analyzed the Bears to death, and with the declaration of our starting five offensive lineman set (for now) we need to breakdown our NFC North villains and see if they've upgraded or downgraded their team from last year.
Detroit
The bandwagon for Detroit was starting to fill up as the Lions closed last season on a four game winning streak, and was near capacity after a strong draft. However, the ghosts of failures past are lingering again and have tempered the expectations of this supposed team on the rise.
Draft class: The Lions highly touted draft class is looking a little less touted these days, with first-round pick Nick Fairley sidelined for most of preseason with a foot injury, second-round pick Mikel Leshoure's Achilles injury ending his season before it started, and possible slot receiver Titus Young suffering a leg injury during the first day of practice that has prevented him from fully participating in drills.
Other injuries: Tackles Jeff Backus, Gosder Cherilus, and Jason Fox have been limited in practice due to a variety of injuries. Maurice Morris broke his hand, and with the Leshoure injury, have left the Lions to count on new additions Jerome Harrison and Mike Bell as backfield options behind Jahvid Best.
Secondary concerns: Bringing back Chris Houston and signing Eric Wright are solid moves, but Alphonso Smith has been limited due to injuries, and the group lacks a proven player outside of safety Louis Delmas.
Linebacker additions: Adding Justin Durant, a possible Bears free agent interest, upgrades a group lacking playmakers, but will he be enough?
Verdict: Upgrade, but skeptical. Injuries have Millen-bitten this team during camp, and not enough significant upgrades were made to legitimize their back seven on defense. The team's better, but on paper only due to injuries.
Green Bay
The defending champs have been quiet this offseason, losing players like Cullen Jenkins and Nick Barnett but replacing them with incumbent players the organization has confidence in.
Bringin' em Back: Linebackers A.J. Hawk and Desmond Bishop signed big contracts to stay with the team, making Barnett an expensive redundancy. Kuhn and James Jones both returned as well, finding the FA market this year not as attractive as expected. Cullen Jenkins was lost, but the team has enough promising young lineman to hopefully fill that gap with, including Mike Neal.
Goodbye Depth: In addition to Barnett, linebackers Brady Poppinga and Brandon Chillar were released, as was former first-round disappointment Justin Harrell. While these guys aren't household names, their releases may affect the great depth the Packers relied on last year on defense to overcome numerous injuries.
Sherrod's the Man: Derek Sherrod figures to play a big role on the offensive line with Mark Tauscher gone. While Sherrod wasn't as highly rated a prospect as Gabe Carimi, he'll benefit from working alongside a solid veteran line.
Verdict: Slight upgrade. Its hard to do better than winning the Super Bowl, but the Packers brought back some key guys while adding youth to a tackle position older than Wisconsin cheddar.
Minnesota
The "Chilly and the Farve" saga is over for the Vikings, and stadium roof permitting, this is a team looking to bounce back from a disastrous 2010 season.
New Offensive Scheme and Quarterbacks: The Vikings have to install new O.C. Bill Musgrave's offense in a short window while incorporating new quarterbacks Donovan McNabb and Christian Ponder. While questions surround both QBs, the real test will be if the new system can insulate either quarterback enough to be productive while letting Peterson run rampant.
Offensive Personnel Questions: Minnesota replaced potential stud Sidney Rice with debatable #2 Michael Jenkins, which wouldn't be a huge deal if Percy Harvin's health (migraines) wasn't an issue. Berrian's back and may have a bigger role, but the offensive line has quickly gone from a team strength to a team concern. Mount McKinnie was released for weighing 874 pounds (approximately) and replaced by Charlie Johnson from the Colts and Ryan Cook. Steve Hutchinson is aging, Loadholt's been up-and-down so far, and Sullivan has gone from stud to dud quickly enough to bounce back, but will he?
Defensive Departures: With the Williams wall being torn down with the release of Pat, the problem gets compounded with Ray Edwards leaving for big money to Atlanta and a secondary counting on a guy with two bad ACL's (Cedric Griffin). Safety Madieu Williams' departure is probably for the best, and Antoine Winfield is still a bad, bad, man, but this looks like a defense in transition, not on the rise.
Verdict: Downgrade. The Vikings could be fine in the short term with McNabb, and possibly okay in the long-term if Ponder works out, but for this year, implementing a new system on the fly offensively while losing some talent on defense doesn't bode well for a team possibly with L.A. dreams.
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Mike McCarthy chewed out the Packers for having a sloppy practice the other day
Hopefully this means the Pack will come out lackadaisical in the beginning of the season or they’ll have the feelings hurt so bad that they won’t want to play football anymore.
Hey, a Bears fan can dream, can’t I?
by NorthSideBearsFan on Aug 9, 2011 3:15 PM CDT reply actions
All this optimism for the Lions,
and the Packers are, Gulp! defending Super Bowl champs. Where does that leave the Bears? Minnesota is upgraded with McNabb, so the Lions will find themselves in the basement at least one more season.
Nope
I think Detroit beats Minn for 3rd place…Detroit’s D-Line>Viking’s O-Line, so I’m sure McNabb/Ponder will be hurt at some point in the season.
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The Vikings will finish in last place, that I’m sure of.
by baseballguru589 on Aug 9, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice article
And I agree, I think the Queen’s window may have closed. As far as the Kittens, I see them improving a couple games..maybe 8-8. The Cheese, we’ll have to wait and see but it will be a closer race in the division than most of these experts seem to think. Everyone has pretty much crowned them NFC champs again already.
"I'm so fly, ya'll still at the terminal" -Lil Wayne
If you want to crown them well crown there asses!!!!!!
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Aug 9, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Our schedule is murder this year. If we can start the year 4-3 or 5-2, then I think we easily make the playoffs
and contend for the Division.
"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.
I'd be happy with that outcome before the bye.
Especially with that nice 4 game breather where we play every AFC West team.
"I must have made him mad. I stole his cheeseburger or something." - Olin Kreutz
The first 4 games are tough
If we can get through week 4 at 3-1 we will be doing great. 2-2 is acceptable but anything below that will be a tough hole to dig out off.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Aug 9, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Who is so ready for a football game?
I am so ready to start up this preseason, we have footyball for the next 25 weeks, god bless the gridiron.
GO BEARS!!
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Aug 9, 2011 5:29 PM CDT reply actions
Lions LB
Don’t forget Stephen Tulloch.
Just Dave (on possible new OL signings): JaMarcus Russell. He's been standing in front of better quarterbacks his entire career.
Yea, our best upgrade...
Even with the injuries, I think the division will beat its self up, and if a team makes the playoffs or 10-6… it will be one tough Wildcard team.
All men are created equal. Its just that some men are more equal than others....
by CapitolLions on Aug 10, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Just now catching on?
"I see PRIDE, I see POWER, I see a BADASS MOTHA WHO WON'T TAKE NO CRAP OFF NOBODY!"
Guys, its August!
The Packers were completely decimated last season with injuries and rebounded just in time to make the playoffs. The Lions aren’t hurting without a full season of Leshoure, the injuries sustained now are not season ending, to guys like Backus, Fairley, and Titus Young.
I sincerely doubt that the Lions are just another 6-8 win team, considering last year they were that without Matthew Stafford. I know that a full season with our starting quarterback will cure a lot of problems, namely keeping defenses aware of the deep ball and keeping them honest.
I’m not proclaiming the Lions are or will be better than the Packers or Bears, but I think that they will be in the mix for the playoffs and quite possibly the division as well. They have improved in every facet of the game since that dreaded 0-16 season and have enough talent to be considered competitve to all teams.
From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!
by DLions4Eva on Aug 10, 2011 1:05 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Dlions, You guys have a tought schedule
tied for 3rd to be exact… i do agree the lions will improve upon last year but that doesnt always translate into winning more games. 6-8 wins is most likely the limit. You guys play bears twice, pack twice, and vikings twice. Not saying those three teams are better or worse than last year but its tough. Of the six games lions go 2-4 one against us one against vikings.
Of the remaining 10 games your looking at KC, TB, NO, ATL, SD, Oak, Carolina, Sf, Den, and Dal
4 of the last 10 were playoff teams with TB missing out with a 10-6 records. Even if you beat Oak, carolina, sf, den and dallas your still looking at a 7-9 season.
I respect your OPINION but i also value the FACTS, To save time, lets just ASSume IM NEVER WRONG
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Aug 11, 2011 6:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I think packers take a huge nose dive this year
They barely made it to the playoffs, granted the had a great playoff run all the way to the title with the exception of playing the Bears. But they won with their secondstring guys.. Guys hungry to impress. Now they’ve got aprox 16 guys coming back from IR (dunno if they lost any IR guys to FA etc) who some of them havent taken a snap in a about a year an a portion of them will start. While the off season player lead practices weren’t really all that beneficial to any team they were better than nothing an the Packers did nothing but take endorsements over the lockout.. Really think they will have a 3-5 game lag at the beginning of the season an given the Bears first quarter of schedule I for one can say I’d be very happy with a Packer flop
by edenburnz on Aug 10, 2011 1:21 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
If they're sloppy...
They’ll have to play from behind the Bears.
Week 3 will be very important.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Aug 10, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Input on the Packers
Just wanted to clarify things, while the Packers lost the players mentioned, ALL those players were lost within the first 4 weeks of the season. The depth that carried the team to the Super Bowl is still with the team. Losing DE Cullen Jenkins is concerning, but the team and fans have a lot of confidence in 2010 2nd Round Pick Mike Neal, who looked impressive in his brief playing time early last year. The loss of Brandon Jackson may also hurt more than most of us would like to think. Quality 3rd Down Backs don’t grow on trees, and Jackson is (in my opinion) one of the better 3rd Down Backs in the league. A terrible ball carrier, but quality 3rd Down Back as he can pass block well and catch out of the backfield. He’s in Cleveland now.
Derrek Sherrod is a bit of a question mark right now. Comparing him to Gabe Carimi, Sherrod is known as a better pass protecter, being a finesse tackle as well. However, Carimi is more physical and is a run blocking mauler. The Packers have been experimenting Sherrod at LG with the 1st Team lately, but it’s no guarantee that he’ll win as TJ Lang has been waiting in the wings for a while. Right now the Packers have some competition going at LG between Sherrod and Lang.
Long story short though, the biggest news for Green Bay is the fact that Ryan Grant and Jermichael Finley are returning after being knocked out early last season. The return of these starters is huge.
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