Fantasy Football: Lineups and Matchups Week 2
by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 1:00 PM CDT
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PrintIts time to get those lineups set (outside of pending medical questions). Last week I preached at you about "play your draft", and I will reinforce that again this week. Its a long season, and to throw away a player for someone who had a great week is silly...but if you read the Tuesday article about Waiver pick ups, you'd know enough to go stock some of them on your bench, just in case.....
First up, some quick injury updates. I use Stephania Bell from ESPN, not because I love ESPN, but because she is timely, accurate, and usually right about injuries. If you have other sources, flaunt away.
Sam Bradford is practicing and feeling "10 times better" already. He will play. Arian Foster is on track to play this week, after back to back near-full practices taking "full starter reps". Steven Jackson won't play. He is doubtful/not ruled out, but his coach doubts he will play, he hasn't practiced, he is probably down for at least a week...Cadillac Williams anyone? Hakeem Nicks is more likely than not going to play, because the MRI indicates no real trauma, just some swelling and a bone bruise...But if his knee is swollen too bad, he may miss, and its hard to "bet" on a Monday night player. I'd start him this week, but not everyone likes to take those risks. Add Mario Manningham or Domenik Hixon if you are real concerned, so you can swap out a starter for him last minute. Knowshon Moreno and Brandon Lloyd may BOTH miss the next game. Both had MRIs, and neither practiced since...check back on them Sunday early and often. Calvin Johnson I would bet on, and I think Dez Bryant plays too, but I am concerned he is hurt/limited again already. All that talent, but I am a doubter. Marques Colston is out, Lance Moore is probably going to be back. Marion Barber and Roy Williams both missed Thurs. practice and neither is a safe bet this week....and Sidney Rice is probably still out.
QBs to start in week 2: Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, (Spiteful, sure, but it felt good), Michael Vick, Drew Brees (yes, I know), Phillip Rivers, Matthew Stafford, Matt Schaub, Jay Cutler,Joe Flacco, Rex Grossman (yeah I said it!), Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tony Romo.
RBs: Ray Rice, Matt Forte, Chris Johnson, Adrian Peterson, Arian Foster*, Darren McFadden, Michael Turner, Frank Gore, Maurice Jones-Drew, LeSean McCoy, Cedric Benson, Ahmad Bradshaw, Peyton Hillis, Jamaal Charles, Rashard Mendenhall, Fred Jackson, DeAngelo Williams, Beanie Wells, Cadillac Williams, Tim Hightower, Felix Jones, Jahvid Best, Reggie Bush, Joseph Addai, Shonn Greene....
WRs: Andre Johnson, Roddy White, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Greg Jennings, Miles Austin, Reggie Wayne, Steve Smith, Vincent Jackson, Mike Wallace, DeSean Jackson, Mike Williams (TB), Anquan Boldin, Dwayne Bowe (rebound), Santana Moss, Wes Welker, Brandon Marshall (All year), Robert Meachem, Steve Johnson, Johnny Knox, Kenny Britt, Nate Washington, Nate Burleson, Santonio Holmes, Hakeem Nicks, Davone Bess
TEs: Antonio Gates, Jermichael Finley, Jason Witten, Vernon Davis, Jimmy Graham (we do give up the TE stuff, regularly), Jermaine Gresham, Scott Chandler, Fred Davis, Ed Dickson, Aaron Hernandez, Rob Gronkowski, Brandon Pettigrew...
D/ST: Ravens, Packers, Bears (forget the matchup.), Steelers (rebound), Jets, Texans, Lions, Cowboys, Giants, Redskins (this week), Eagles, Bills
If the above isn't enough info (I went about 2-3 deep at WR & RB, and 1 deep at QB, TE, D/ST), start tossing questions in down below, including all of my absolute favorite "This guy or that guy" questions, complete with relevant scoring system info (PPR league, Standard, etc). If you have any lineup questions, suggestions, fears, or other comments, hit us up below, I'd love to hear them.
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Blount?
I’m thinking last week was a fluke, but I also have Tolbert. Though I don’t expect Tolbert to have numbers like that again either.
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Blount will have a better week than last week
He does especially poorly when Tampa’s playing catch up because he’s poor at pass protection and isn’t in on passing downs. This week’s game should be more competitive and he does well when he plays.
Tolbert is no fluke, though you can’t expect 3 tds every week. He will get plenty of carries, including most of the goalline carries on a team that runs it a ton in the redzone.
If I had to choose, I’d go with Tolbert this week.
Tolbert vs DeAngelo Williams vs Boldin
for my flex position – I’m leaning to Boldin, since D-Will faces GB and Tolbert is a big hitormiss guy
If its free, take two.
Boldin
in my opinion, but I think Williams will recover and have a decent year.
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate playing guys that are playing the Bears(didn't play Roddy White last week)
Think Bradford players well enough that I can start him over Brees and still win?
lol
by HeuristicLineup on Sep 16, 2011 1:38 PM CDT reply actions
I'm starting Kolb over Brees this week
and not thinking twice about it. Also sat Michael Turner last week.
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by David Taylor on Sep 16, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Never bench Brees.
even on Bears week.
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll be sure to let the coach know to tell him that...
While he’s sitting on the bench this week. I’d rather lose a week than cheer for someone to do good against my team
by HeuristicLineup on Sep 16, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
fair enough
But homerism and fantasy have to be separated. I never “cheer” for my fantasy players, I start them, ignore them, and check after the fact. I ran Roddy White last week, will start Brees this week, and so on for the season.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Rest of the season I'll play them both. Just refuse to play players playing against the Bears
Got 2nd place last year playing the same way
by HeuristicLineup on Sep 16, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm with you.
Unless I have no other option, I will always sit players against the Bears. Granted this is my first years, but fantasy doesn’t mean that much to me.
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by David Taylor on Sep 16, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Never confuse your heart for your wallet.
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by JerBear50 on Sep 16, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
What if the wallet is a Bears wallet?
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Bears will maul Brees
don’t even sweat it.
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by hedonism bot on Sep 17, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Should I start Jay Cutler or Phillip Rivers this week?
I’m honestly a little stumped, both seem primed to have big weeks and Jay has always delivered in Week 2 as a Bear.
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Rivers
He has better targets (for the most part), a less shaky O-line, is facing a defense that is less blitz-happy, is less turnover prone, and is just a better QB right now.
Cutler could certainly wind up having a better game, but I’d play the odds and go with Rivers. You drafted Rivers first of the two, and there’s no reason not to stick with him.
Rivers
for now….Cutler just may be on to something this year though.
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
ive got the same 2 qbs
cutler fell to the 8th round i couldn’t believe it. He will make them pay.
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by garyfencikrapping on Sep 16, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
You should start Rivers every week
he’s the better fantasy QB and it’s not a great idea to switch back and forth for matchup purposes.
agree
but if our offense continues to execute regularly, by mid-season you can take your pick…and its nice to have a strong backup….and you can always trade Rivers for a stud RB or WR if come week 8, Cutler is consistently awesome.
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Same here
But I’m going with Cutty…I got a feelin
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Dwayne Bowe BETTER have a rebound game
He let me down last week. I had him last season, too, and he cost me a playoff berth with some bad games down the stretch. I’ll ride him for one more game but I don’t have a lot of faith in him.
Here’s my bigger concern: I have both the Bears defense AND Drew Brees (Matt Cassel is my back-up QB. Blech.). Should I roll the dice or make a change?
by NorthSideBearsFan on Sep 16, 2011 2:39 PM CDT reply actions
I'd start both
The Bears D/ST always finds ways to come through, and so does Brees. Think about it – Ryan had 300 yards, he just didn’t score. If Brees gets 300 yards and 1 TD, he is a good fantasy play, and the Bears defense might still make out…Plus it kind of falls under hedging your bet.
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Should I start korn on the Kolb or Breese this week?
As it stands now I’ve got Kolb starting both because I don’t want Breese to have a good game against the Bears and because I honestly believe Kolb has a better matchup.
Also what are your thoughts on Deion Branch as a #3 WR going forward, or at least until Brandon Lloyd is healthy and contributing?
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by Joeb'n777 on Sep 16, 2011 2:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Brees
I just don’t see benching someone as good as Brees, homer in me or not.
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
As an offense
The saints throw more than the cardinals. Brees is better than Kolb. All signs point to starting Brees. You spend the early pick to get the guy, then play him!
if B Lloyd is out
Benson or Meacheam for flex. 1 PPR
I just traded traded Benson and unforunately its not a flex league.
If it was a flex league I would have had a sick 3 headed monster at RB with Ray Rice, Matt Forte and Benson and Fred Jackson as a bye week replacement
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by Joeb'n777 on Sep 16, 2011 3:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Benson.
I think he has top 15 RB stats this week…Meachem is not a bad alternative though
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
No love for Kellen Winslow, Owen Daniels, or Dallas Clark?
I’d still take them over Chandler even though Chandler had a better week. Probably over Fred Davis too.
Well
Dallas Clark didn’t fair too well last week with the new QB situation, and it wasn’t all QB play…Wayne got his numbers. Clark had a bad injury last year, and has no Manning. He may be decent though, I am wary.
Daniels hasn’t had a studly fantasy week in a while either. I’d own both but trust neither right now, depending on who is on your roster. Chandler is a low end guy for me right now, I’d rather not start him, but it depends who else you have.
Winslow, I just don’t know. I fear a slump year across Tampa Bay.
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you may be overreacting based on one game here
Daniels has had multiple studly games much more recently than you think. His fantasy numbers in the last four games of 2010: 9 (90 yards), 4 (45 yards), 13 (73 yards and a TD), and 12 (62 yards and a TD). Those are pretty big numbers for a TE. I think last game was a fluke.
Indy’s offense couldn’t have looked much worse and Clark still caught 4 passes for 39 yards. He’s one of the few guys I’d still start in that offense, because the TE is a terrible QB’s best friend. I don’t expect him to be his awesome self, but I’d still expect him to be top-10 quality.
And Winslow caught 6 passes for 66 yards in a bad day for the Tampa Bay offense. He’s been a top-10 TE for years. As long as he’s healthy, he produces solid numbers for a TE. Not spectacular, but solid. Even when the offense around him stinks.
I wouldn’t be jumping ship on those guys after one game. Certainly not in favor of Scott Chandler (at least not yet).
Daniels is big when Andre Johnson is out...
Be careful with Daniels. Those studly games to end 2010 were without Andre Johnson in the lineup. When you remove those games, his stats were terrible for a player of his caliber and draft position. The Texans offense is more run oriented than in Daniels 2007-9 seasons and Schaub spreads the ball around to other TE’s these days (only 2 targerts for Daniels in Week 1).
He is solid but I think people are still expecting what he was on pace to do in 2009 before the ACL injury, which is another reason why he is on his way down. If you have the roster space, I’d pickup Jermaine Gresham or Ed Dickson because one of these two (or both) will be a Top 7 TE this year. BOOK IT!
agree on Daniels, Gresham...Waiting on Dickson.
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Daniels had the 90 yard game with Johnson on the field
It was the Baltimore game, and he caught 5 for 91 while Johnson caught 9 for 140 and 2 TDs. The two can coexist just fine.
I don’t expect Daniels to be as dominant as he was in 2009, but I’d expect him to be a top-8 TE and must start. Certainly ahead of Chandler and Davis, and I’d say still ahead of Gresham and Dickson. I am intrigued by Gresham and Dickson, but I need to see it for more than 1 week before I’d put them ahead of Daniels.
Daniels is the epicenter of tease.
2008, he was over 800 yards (3rd) and still only scored twice (tied for late 20’s).
2009, he had 5 TDs (tied for 12th), and finished with only 500 yards (19th)…That is the 2009 you said was so dominant, by the way.
2010? 471 yards (early 20s), 2 TDs (30th)…
The Dominant year you are referring to was 2008, not 2009…Its been a few years since Owen Daniels has lived up to his draft status. I just don’t trust him anymore, and week 1 did nothing to change my opinion.
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 17, 2011 7:32 AM CDT up reply actions
No, it was definitely 2009
Go back and check the game logs rather than season stats. In 2009, he had 519 yards and 5 TDs… THROUGH 8 GAMES. He was top a top 3-4 TE at that point.
His injury came midway through 2009 and affected him through the middle of 2010 (which is why his 2010 numbers look pedestrian).
If you just look at season totals, his stats look blah. But just looking at season totals and failing to see the context of those totals (started 2009 strong before injury, ended 2010 strong after finally recovering from said injury) leads to (in my opinion) faulty conclusions.
No.
Because 6 good games won’t win you a championship…His injury is part of the equation, I won’t just pretend it doesn’t exist. That is exactly my point. Daniels often misses games. He has become the 3rd option on his team instead of the 2nd. His team passes left. He is always broken. He is a risk.
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 17, 2011 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions
He was dominant up until the injury...
which was my point. I don’t expect him to blow out his knee again – that was a freak injury.
You were making it sound like he had this mediocre season in 2009. He didn’t. He had a dominant season and then had a freak season-ending injury.
It took him a year to recover from that injury, but he came back with a strong finish to the season once he got healthy.
Sure – he’s the #3 option on his team. As are almost all TE. And he’s an injury risk. But he’s not injured right now, and he’s had big games in 4 of his last 5 games as the TE.
Feel free to think he’s worthless. I’d much rather start him this week than Scott Chandler.
Never said he was worthless
I think you are stuck on my list of guys I think might have good weeks THIS week and using it to evaluate a roster, which isn’t the point. I put Grossman up there this week too, based strictly on matchup. I think Oakland is very poor at defending Tight Ends, and Chandler may repeat, so he made my 12 for the week. In my waiver wire pick up article this week, I said specifically that Chandler is worth owning but not to count on him as your “starter” yet…but if you are in a bad enough spot to need him, I think he will do well this week.
Conversely, I think that Dallas Clark will struggle for a couple more weeks under a horrible QB before they start to find any rhythm. That happens when you have 1 QB for 7 years and have to change.
As far as Daniels, Me saying he is an injury risk, who has stung owners for the past 2 seasons, doesn’t equate to “he is worthless, drop him for Chandler”. I think you may be a smidge too dramatic about the whole thing. I don’t like him this week. You do. Play your roster as you feel fit.
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 17, 2011 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Clark isn't that guy
Wayne is. For a QB I don’t expect to hit or exceed 200 yards very often, the only one who will consistently get more than 50 is Wayne.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Clark doesn't need to consistently get more than 50 yards
to be a fantasy starter at TE. Even averaging 50 yards would put him in the top 6-8 at TE.
Your points are all valid with regard to why Clark isn’t likely to remain the elite TE he’s been in the past with Manning. But they aren’t reasons to bench him. As I said before, I think you’re falling prey to the one game sample in listing Chandler and Davis as guys to start and not mentioning Clark, Daniels, or Winslow. I’d feel much more comfortable continuing to start those three over a guy with 6 career catches in 3 years in the league.
Fred Davis is still a semi-gamble
Chandler I don’t trust yet, and I said as much. Worth owning,but not starting.
I don’t trust anyone not named Reggie Wayne on the Colts until Manning gets back. Nothing wrong with disagreeing with me, but Clark is coming off a nasty injury and playing with a drastically less accurate QB. He isn’t a big bodied dominant TE, he is a fast (for a TE) H-Back. Without Manning’s accuracy, Clark’s production will drop off. Without Manning, we will never see the Clark of 2007-2009 ever again. He has also only played 16 games once, ever.
I am not saying I can’t be wrong, I am saying a guy with a new (bad) QB coming off a massive injury has to show he will still get targets and production. If you have another good option, play it safe…If you don’t, start Clark…but don’t expect an outburst until you see an outburst.
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 17, 2011 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm just questioning your listing of those guys and not Clark...
Would you seriously play Chandler over Winslow or Clark based on one game (a game in which Winslow caught 6 passes)? You talk later about not quitting on guys after just one game and mention waiting and seeing on some other TEs after just one game. But your list would suggest you’re doing those two things. And if so, I disagree.
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All I did was tell you what guys, based strongly on matchups, I expect to have good weeks. You can disagree all day….and yes, I am down on Clark. Its not 1 week, its 1 week + 1 season + 1 lost QB.
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 17, 2011 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Lets seen start Bowe after the crapfest last week?
Or Burleson?
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by Claudio Oliveira on Sep 16, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Well im going to start
Bess and Burleson over Bowe and Maclin…man Eff bowe
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I am still starting Bowe
but who knows how much that will hurt me. I don’t like to quit on guys after 1 week.
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
You drafted Bowe relatively high
for a reason. It’s way to early to start benching him.
Agreed...
barring injury, you should stick with your starters for at least a couple weeks. Everyone can have a bad game.
I started Grossman last week
And This week is Sexy Rexy or Mattew “Glassy” Stafford..?
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by Claudio Oliveira on Sep 16, 2011 3:06 PM CDT reply actions
Gotta go with Stafford
as long as he’s healthy. KC looked BAD last week, and they just lost their best DB for the season as well.
I'd go Rex.
Arizona’s secondary is atrocious. They gave up 400 yards to a bloody rookie in his first ever NFL game! Imagine what they’d give up to even a halfway-serviceable NFL vet like Rex!
BTW, I feel like an idiot for doubting Chan Gailey. Never again…
That's tough
but I’d go Stafford. Until he gets hurt again, he has proven better consistency, but Grossman could be sleeper of the year.
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
As a Bears fan...
I’ve seen this out of Gross-Man before. Remember in 2006 when he was lighting up the league for the first 6 weeks? Yeah, so do I. He’s garbage until the rest of the league gets updated tape on him and then they turn his arm into a wet noodle.
by rbarnold2626 on Sep 16, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
He now has
a far better offensive coach….and this week is matchup based, not studly trust in the sex cannon.
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Stafford
Got to start Stafford with Megatron against a shady defense.
by rbarnold2626 on Sep 16, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Should I drop ward for branch?
or is that a dumb question? lol
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Branch
has bigger upside, but beat an out of place rookie like a drum in a 500 yard game to get his numbers, so stay wary.
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
He has proven that he can be a big play threat and has a great chemistry with TB
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agree
but so does Welker, and Hernandez, and Gronkowski, and Ocho will eventually…I don’t doubt Branch’s ability.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
DeAngelo Williams?
I’d start Williams, even after last week. Tolbert and Matthews leech off of each other too much for a team that doesn’t like to run much anyway….Tolbert was a stud last week, but I promise the game plan isn’t to get him 3 TDs a week.
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
standard scoring league Flex position
devin hester
pierre thomas
LT
devery henderson
?
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by garyfencikrapping on Sep 16, 2011 4:25 PM CDT reply actions
Not sure I would go w/Thomas or LT.
Car’s D isn’t that good and the GB O is better than what they faced last wk. Going to be, at best, a shoot out and not much of a ground game in those games. I think GBs D will dominate Car this week and the GB O will score quickly. Thomas and LT will be taken out of the equation for that reason. Hester (against the hurt NO’s D might be something and don’t forget his return abilities). Henderson against the Chi D. Depends on how well Chi’s D plays this week. I know Brees’s throwing the ball but it’s still a question mark as to Chi’s D. Tough question between Henderson and Hester.
by Neal Lautzenheiser on Sep 17, 2011 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Henderson
we give up some points to #2 receivers. Sorry Bears fans, as long as he doesn’t score, right :)
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 17, 2011 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Tough
but I’d go Bowe 1-2 more weeks before quitting on him
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Never took FF too seriously, so sorry if this is a basic question. Anyways, in a league with a flex position, is it better to load up on RB + WR? I don’t see any great reason to swap my QB, Def, TE, or Kicker(worry about bye weeks later) on a weekly basis, so wouldn’t it be best to have depth at the positions with the most weekly fluctuations? 10 teams, 9 active players, 7 bench
standard scoring or PPR?
it comes down to the quality of the players, but yeah
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Standard scoring. I’m really deep at receivers, but the other positions are pretty well covered. M Manningham, S Moss, J Maclin, P Burress, and Jacoby Jones. Hightower currently occupies the flex position, but when bye weeks come(For AP and McFadden particularly), I figure Hightower is going to have to fill in the RB spots and I’ll need receivers to fill in. The league is too deep to find a reasonable substitute RB….
Also, Gould or Rackers? I feel a big game for the Bears, allowing Gould to get only one or two boots in and some XPs. I think Miami is going to stop HOU often enough to give Rackers a solid day of kicking. Did I smoke more than I needed to today, or does everyone else feel this is a fair assessment?
sndarding scoring league
would you go with Maclin, S. Moss or D. Bess? And how do you guys feel about mcGahee this week?
Moss
I don’t feel much about McGahee at all, yet…or probably ever again :)
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Benjamin Watson (who i already have), or Gresham or Ed Dickson (who are on waivers)?
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Gresham or Watson
Let’s see 2-3 more weeks from Dickson first, rather than just 1 good day in a blow out win.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Welker or Vjax?
I have an embarrassment of riches at RB, so I have to play three instead of the traditional two and two. KC Joyner, who I trust a lot in fantasy, said to go with Vjax over Welker because of the better matchup (CB covering him). Let me know what you think.
Here’s my lineup in a split ppr (.5RBs/1WRs)…
Stafford
Forte
Mendy
Foster
Vjax
Witten
Kasay
Lions
Bench- Burress, Manningham, Newton, Starks, Tate, Welker, Bryant, Eagles.
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VJax
and your lineup proves either you have great keepers or your league can’t draft :)
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a bit rediculous
This is the fourth year of our league and the other owners have regressed in drafting, besides a few.
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by propheteer on Sep 17, 2011 9:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
50-50
Williams would be my pick…I have a bad feeling about Tampa, especially Freeman & Blount, but you never know…You did draft Blount higher though.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
by Brendan Hess on Sep 16, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, it all comes down to whether Tampa Bay is close or has the lead...
The fact that Blount doesn’t play on any clear passing downs limits his value. If the Bucs are trailing, they’re going to play Earnest Graham (because they’re going to pass). If it’s close or they have the lead, Blount will play on 1st and 2nd down and get plenty of carries.
You can never know for sure how the game will play out, so Blount is always going to be a huge risk for that reason. I’d never be excited about playing Cadillac Williams, but I might go with him over Blount as well.
If Caddy can get as many touches as Jackson usually gets...
He’ll score at least 8 points this week under standard scoring. I’m betting on 80 rush, 50 catch. Maybe a TD, but those are difficult to predict…
Standard scoring
Ray Rice vs Forte vs Tim Hightower
Only two RB spots; no RB flex spot (unfortunately)
They have two liter bottles now? To think I spent all that time demanding a liter!
Rice and Forte
No way you sit Rice unless he gets hurt or has a bye. And Forte is facing a blitz-happy defense (read: plenty of screen passes) and had a great game last week. Hightower is nice insurance at the moment though.
This
Forte & Rice, weekly.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
by Brendan Hess on Sep 17, 2011 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks guys
I kind of figured those two should start this week. Just wanted to see a couple of other opinions.
They have two liter bottles now? To think I spent all that time demanding a liter!
This week, and every week.
I’m particularly low on any RB in a Shanahan offense. Not because they don’t produce (they do). But b/c he’s got this nasty habit of not using the game guy twice. If there were ever a week to start Timmy, it’d be this week against a resoundingly terrible Arizona defense. But both Forte and Rice are superior players, and it’s not even close. Hightower is injury and Bye week fodder, ONLY.
I'm annoyed I lost by 3 points last week because Knowsho Moreno decided to be, well Knowshon Moreno. Anyway......
Burleson, Julio Jones or Bess?
Fred Jackson, Cadillac Williams or James Starks?
Bears D/ST or Giants D/ST?
Drew Brees is my starter and I am unsure about keeping the Bears defense in since I feel like I’m just jinxing myself with this one. Normally I don’t play anyone against the Bears but I can’t bench Brees. My backup QB is Matt Ryan and he’s not lighting up that Eagles secondary. I think the Falcons go run heavy against a weak Eagles run-D.
Thoughts?
Burleson, Jackson or Williams, Bears.
Call it hedging your bet. I always ride the Bears D/ST, its the hypocrite and homer in me.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
by Brendan Hess on Sep 17, 2011 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
I’d go Burleson, Jackson, Bears. Starks still has a time share in GB and the Giants defense is so banged up. We’ll likely give up some points to the Saints (who doesn’t?), but we will get some sacks and may force some turnovers, and there’s always a chance for a return TD.
I kind of like
Jones to have a big week but the safer bet is probably Burleson.
As for the other two I’d go Williams and Bears.
They have two liter bottles now? To think I spent all that time demanding a liter!
Got a whole crapton load of teams here to worry about. Some more secure than others...
Team 1: 0.5 PPR, Return Yardage, Flex position
DeAngelo, Burleson, Cobb
Team 2: 0.5 PPR, Flex position
DeAngelo, Santana, or Julio?
Team 3: 0.2 PPR, 0.2 PPCarry, Return Yardage, Flex and WR
Collie, Knowshon, Bennett, Ginn
Team 3: 0.2 PPComp, QB
Freeman, Eli, Cutty
Team 3: TE
Kellen, Dickson
Team 4: 0.5 PPR, rush big play bonus, return yards, Flex position
LT, Mike Thomas JAC, Early, DeAngelo, Knowshon
Team 5: Standard, WR1
Nicks, Lloyd, Bess, Gaffney (my other starters are Smith South and Britt)
Thx for the help, LMK if you need any additional information!
Wow
Team 1 – DeAngelo Williams. He should get 15 touches or more, I always side with opportunity even if GB is a tough matchup.
Team 2 – DeAngelo again, see above.
Team 3 – I feel stumped. Knowshon I guess…The Bengals are horrible. Cutler over Freeman, Manning is a harder call. I am starting Manning in one league, but I am slow to come around. I’d ride Eli for two more weeks before buying, see how Cutler handles the suspect D of NO and the D of GB, then make a season choice. I’d go with Kellen Winslow you mean? That’s a tough call…Winslow for now, but watch the next two weeks closely.
Team 4 – DeAngelo Williams has the most talent, Knowshon has the best matchup…I’d go Williams still, but can’t blame you for going another way.
Team 5 – Nicks….He has a better chance of playing than Lloyd and a better chance at good numbers…Denver may actually run a bunch this week, but you never know. I don’t trust Lloyd to play hurt, or he’d be here in Chicago still.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
by Brendan Hess on Sep 17, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's my current thinking...
For Team 1, the only reason that Cobb is in consideration is b/c a standard KO return is worth about a point in that league. Depending on that score, Cobb could get either a whole buncha points, or none. I’m riding DeAngelo for another week, but Cobb should be worth holding on to for the explosive matchups.
Team 2, that’s Santana Moss. And they’re facing the Arizona Cardinals, quite possibly the worst passing defense in the entire NFL. They gave Steve Smith some 20+ points last week. And Santana actually has a vet tossing him the rock in a solid offensive philosophy.
Team 3… Yeah, I’m really clueless on that one. Freeman is the most consistently good QB in the NFL right now. At least, in terms of fantasy production. He has had only one truly bleh performance. But he also never gets into the top tiers of scorers. As far as Eli and Cutty, I’m not sure on their matchups. NO has on weeks and off weeks, and I’m never certain when those weeks will crop up. Eli is just on a crappy offensive team right now. It’s that first choice that’s really baffling me. There’s 2 spots there, and one of them has to be a WR. I’m actually leaning towards Gin right now b/c of the return yardage scoring. The 49ers are bound to get a few KO returns, and each one is essentially 1 point for him. He might end up being one of the top scorers this year in that league, aside other KRs and PRs like Hester.
Team 4, Knowshon’s health scares me. I’ll probably go DeAngelo there…
Team 5, again, health scares. Nicks is the Monday Night game, and neither of the backups are available in that league. I can probably get away with a gamble with my other two WRs, but it kinda leaves a bitter taste in my mouth…
Start Cutler vs NO (probably would) or Freeman vs the Vikes (probably not)
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Cutler IMO
I said above I fear Freeman this year, maybe he will settle me down later
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by Brendan Hess on Sep 17, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm having a tough time choosing between a Flex and WR2 spot
The candidates are: James Starks (RB), Devin Hester, Mario Manningham, and Jerome Simpson (WR).
So far I have Starks at the Flex and Manningham at the WR2
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
Manningham
the other one is…lackluster. I guess Starks.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
by Brendan Hess on Sep 17, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
If you're scoring return yardage, Hester is an every-week starter.
And I kinda like Mario this weekend whether or not Nicks plays…
Decisions Decisions
I am in a 0.5 PPR league with special teams yardage
Last year top WR scorer was Percy Harvin with Danny Amendola coming in a point behind. No other WR within 35 points. (To put things in perspective)
I am trying to get a feel for Percy Harvin vs. Dwany Bowe vs. Stevie Johnson
First thought is to go with Percy, but last week he seemed to only have been given one return and the passing game up in Minny seems overly atrocious. Any thought would be appreciated!
You score return yardage?
Harvin gets the nod there. But Bowe should be starting every week as well. Who are your other WRs that this is your choice?
So supposing he only does one return this game
and I don’t think he will take it to the house again .. Any more quotable notes?
Thanks (by the way)
for the last reply. I was thinking the same thing with Harvin, but may be getting too jinxed about ONE very very bad passing day in Minnesota.
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