Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Win or Lose, Boston Celtics' New Big 3 Era A Success

Chicago Bears Sackwatch 2011; Week 2 vs. New Orleans Saints

I'm glad I'm just looking at sacks and not hurries, hits, or knockdowns.  I don't have that kind of time to break down all that hot crappy garbage.  This game reminded me of the offensive o-line play and play calling from early last year.  Bears o-coordinator Mike Martz didn't do his line any favors with his pass happy game plan, he could have been a bit more balanced to slow down some of the pass rush of the Saints.

Star-divide

Six more sacks on Sunday brings the 2011 Sackwatch total to 11.  After 2 games in 2010 the Bears had given up a mere 5.  The pass protection is trending the wrong way, and with Gabe Carimi set to miss a few weeks it may get worse.

Sack 6 - 3rd Quarter 10:11 - Turk McBride
This 7 yard loss was a drive killing sack and strip by McBride.  The score was 16-13, with New Orleans on top at this point and this was a huge momentum swing.  Bears tight end Kellen Davis simply wasn't able to stay with McBride, especially after getting out of his stance a tick late.  I know Martz likes leaving his tight ends in to block, but in my opinion leaving them in to help (or to chip) is fine, leaving them on an island with a defensive end is dumb.  He wouldn't ask J'Marcus Webb to run a stick route and catch a pass to pick up a first down, so why expect a TE to do a tackles job.

Sack 7 - 4th Quarter 10:06 - Jonathan Casillas
On a 3rd and 15 from the New Orleans 47, Jay Cutler is dropped for a 12 yard loss by Casillas off the left edge.  Webb blocked down to help with the DT, maybe he thought Davis who was standing next to him wasn't running a pattern, but Davis released off the line and should have been Cutler's hot route.  He may not have picked up the 1st down, but it wouldn't have been a sack.  Back to the sack, when Webb squeezed down Chris Williams tried to pop out and pick up Casillas off the edge, but I don't think that was his responsibility.  Williams just tried to make a play.

Sack 8 - 4th Quarter 8:11 - Junior Galette / Sedrick Ellis
On the Bears very next offensive play after that Casillas sack, Cutler is taken down again.  Frank Omiyale was beat off the edge by Galette and it looked like Williams allowed Ellis to slip inside his block.  Cutler had no where to go.

Sack 9 - 4th Quarter 4:41 - Roman Harper
On a 3rd and 15 out of the shotgun Cutler was sacked for the 4th time on the day.  He had a split backfield, and the Bears only released 3 receivers on the play.  This was a jail break, and Cutler didn't have a chance.  It was Kellen Davis again that was in front of the defender that ended up making the sack.  Harper beat Davis as Davis failed to stay between his guy and Cutler.

Sack 10 - 4th Quarter 4:23 - Roman Harper / Malcolm Jenkins
The 4th sack of the 4th quarter was immediately after that last Harper sack.  Another disgusting double.  The Bears had trips left Cutler had pressure off both edges.  Jenkins ran past Webb then past Kahlil Bell who made a terrible effort of the pickup.  Webb showed to his left, then seemed to realize Bell was back to help, so he turned his attention inside.  Over on the right side, it was Kellen Davis that was the closest culprit to Harper.   Davis was on a guy however, so you can't really fault him.  To me it looked like the Bears should have slid protection to the right, and Davis should have fanned out to Harper.

Sack 11 - 4th Quarter 3:36 - Junior Galette
This makes it sacks given up on 3 consecutive offensive plays for the Bears.  A terrible trifecta.  If the fellas charged with protecting Cutler weren't embarrassed up to this point, this sack should have done it.  The Saints showed they were bringing a bunch, but backed out and only sent the 4 defensive linemen.  Webb, for a reason only known to Webb, ignored the defensive end to his left and Galette picked up his second sack of the day.

Sackwatchcutler_medium Upon further review the Bears gave up 5 sacks in the 4th quarter after they were trailing 30-13.  I can't really fault Mike Martz for getting so pass happy in the final quarter.  But.  The occasional draw or some no huddle offense would have helped slow down some of the pass rush from New Orleans, but hindsight is what it is. 

Jay Cutler faced constant pressure in the second half.  This game, which was close til the 3rd quarter, got real ugly late.  Cutler finished up 19 of 45 for 244 yards, one TD and a 67.3 rating. 

Sackwatch after 2 games
2010 Sacks - 5
2011 Sacks -11

Comment 84 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Wow. It's hard to remember how close it was in the first half.

Hopefully we don’t end up in that must-pass situation against the Packers.

A DRaysBay and FanGraphs writer from Cubs Stats and Twitter @BradleyWoodrum

by BWoodrum on Sep 22, 2011 11:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Um

No

In short, in life, as in a foot-ball game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard; don't foul and don't shirk, but hit the line hard!" Theodore Roosevelt

by LRT on Sep 22, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which 4-5 do you think were on Cutler?

Without coaches film it’s hard for me to determine. But my guess is Sack 7 vs. the Saints Cutler had a chance to dump it off to Davis. In week 1 sacks 4 and 5 were on Jay. Sack #4 he bobbled the ball and fell on it, and #5 he slid down to keep the clock running.

My guesstimate is 3 of the 11 are on Jay.

Whenever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft, it changes its call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 22, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which still means too many sacks allowed by the O-line

and it’s not just the sacks. Even the non-sacks resulting in hurried throws are a problem.

But even if you take away 5 sacks’ blame from the o-line, they’d still be on a pace to give up close to 50 sacks on their own.

by SouthernCub on Sep 22, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok

Whenever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft, it changes its call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 22, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I also blame Cutler for the sacks.

And for not handing the ball of more. And for the defense allowing Henderson to score that TD. And for my grandfather eating butterfingers, when he knew it would spike his blood sugar.

-------
cheekymonkeyart.com | Follow me on: twitter | facebook | tumblr

by David Taylor on Sep 22, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, burn the barn!

Throw flaming squirrels at Cutler and drive Lovie out of town!

Release the Kraken!
Give it up for the boys in blue, USAF
Twit for more flaming squirrels

by Jonathan Thompson on Sep 22, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

mmmmmmm.....butterfingers

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Sep 22, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Certainly a more balanced attack helps, but getting hit – nevermind the sacks, are damaging. His mechanics went straight to hell and any QB in the league would have the same issue. Martz has to be smart enough to put his line in a position to be successful and my feeling is he wanted to replicate what the Packers did to that NO dee the week prior. So his ego got in the way of his common sense. The other issue that there seems to be this perception that the Bears were out of this game early and they were in the game starting Q4.

by poolboy55 on Sep 22, 2011 1:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Except the Packers plan was real simple

Quick slants, 3 or 5 step drops over the middle, getting the damn ball out quick. Th bears could’ve annhilated the Saints by picking them apart in the middle, but there was no semblance of time, receivers kept screwing up their hot routes, dropping passes and Jay failing to find them. Th biggest culprit is the line, but let’s not pretend the WRs or even Cutler were any better. The line just regressed, and I was one of the more optimistic people when it came to pass blocking, but I don’t know what the hell to expect from this group on Sundays.

by Midway Bully on Sep 22, 2011 1:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Don’t forget that Martz doesn’t give his QB the latitude to check at the line. 3 step drops are almost non-existent his scheme. Seriously, Bates who was axed in Seattle after a year or Martz were the real choices and Martz has successfully managed to put Cutler in a position of foregoing all mechanics and just getting rid of the ball. At least Bates had an excuse, Martz doesn’t. Again, understanding strengths of personnel should supersede any scheme you throw out there.

by poolboy55 on Sep 22, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

So are you saying hits don't matter

Or am I reading/perceiving that statement incorrectly? Because I can sure as hell say that a lot of those hits had a big impact on Cutler.

by Midway Bully on Sep 22, 2011 1:34 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Which statement?
I’m glad I’m just looking at sacks and not hurries, hits, or knockdowns. I don’t have that kind of time to break down all that hot crappy garbage.

That one?

Whenever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft, it changes its call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 22, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ya since you said hot crappy garbage

So I didn’t know what to make of it.

by Midway Bully on Sep 22, 2011 4:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

They matter.

There’s just too many for Les to go to; he does have a job and family after all.

Weekend contributor and official editorial lackey/waitstaff at Windy City Gridiron
If a people-avoiding gaming hermit is on Twitter, I should be too. Follow me!

by Steven Schweickert on Sep 22, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep just realized what a dumb question it was

Why would anyone break down hits, right? Am I right!!? Tell me I’m right!!!

by Midway Bully on Sep 22, 2011 4:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I can name one or two coaches that better be breaking them down...

Weekend contributor and official editorial lackey/waitstaff at Windy City Gridiron
If a people-avoiding gaming hermit is on Twitter, I should be too. Follow me!

by Steven Schweickert on Sep 22, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I had the time...

and some compensation… I’d break own every single hit, hurry, knockdown, and look at the Bears sacks too!

Whenever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft, it changes its call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 23, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dont think its Cutler's fault at all

Mike Martz has always been a big fan of the pass, unfortunately the offensive lines he inherits are never really built for that sorta thing so his quarterbacks get sacked with all of those 5 and 7 step drops. The Bears receivers are having a hard time getting seperation so Cutler has to hold onto the ball longer after all of those steps taken backwards. Not a recipe for success.

I look for Martz to run the ball a lot more in the Packer game Sunday and will try to make it a more balanced attack. I know the Bears are better than what they showed against the Saints, but injuries are hurting the team. If they can get Forte going early, maybe use some playaction a little more, cut back to quick passes and 3 step drops, I see a Bears win. If not, a repeat of last week.

I predict a Bears win 23-21 with a late second td pass to Matt Forte for the win. Bears play the Pack hard every year and I don’t see that changing now.

From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!

by DLions4Eva on Sep 22, 2011 1:39 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

You are effectively

More positive about the Bears than 65% of our fanbase. Kudos to that.

Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.

Writer at windycitygridiron.com | @KDoggers

by Kev H on Sep 22, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

the ironic thing is

In the Gabe Carimi injury thread I went on there a friendly smack talked a lil bit and they acted like I trolled up the joint. I like the Bears and their fans and they have a good a chance to win the division as the Packers and Lions do. Some of these people on this particulia site can’t take criticism or smack talk back without bringing up how we Lions fans are trolling now since we finally have a team and we can’t handle a winning team and blah, blah, blah.

Kev, you banned me once, but do you think I’d go back and delibrately troll and talk crap about the Bears and actually be serious about it? I just like having fun with other team’s fans and friendly smack talk is healthy once in awhile. No reason to be too serious and take everything a Lions fan (of all teams) says to heart.

We were 0-16 once, had one playoff win in 50+ years, haven’t had a real qb (other than Staff of course) since the 50’s, never been to a Superbowl, and haven’t made the playoffs since 1999. Tell me again why they are taking the things I say so literally again?

From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!

by DLions4Eva on Sep 22, 2011 4:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wrong place, wrong time, and wrong delivery.

Also, read my last reply to you.

Weekend contributor and official editorial lackey/waitstaff at Windy City Gridiron
If a people-avoiding gaming hermit is on Twitter, I should be too. Follow me!

by Steven Schweickert on Sep 22, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

either way

You, SMD, and Kev H are my favorites over here. TRFBotta aint bad either. The rest, I’m not so sure about.

From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!

by DLions4Eva on Sep 22, 2011 4:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

That's... like...

kinda… sorta… cool, I guess?

Yeah, I don’t mind ya.

Weekend contributor and official editorial lackey/waitstaff at Windy City Gridiron
If a people-avoiding gaming hermit is on Twitter, I should be too. Follow me!

by Steven Schweickert on Sep 22, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

David Taylor

Also cool. Sorry, there actually are a lot of pretty decent fans on here, just bad at remembering their names.

From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!

by DLions4Eva on Sep 23, 2011 12:13 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Getting smacked over the head with the BanHammer

can do that to you.

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Sep 23, 2011 7:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, now I know you're insane.

Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.

Writer at windycitygridiron.com | @KDoggers

by Kev H on Sep 23, 2011 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, Kev is my favorite because he did ban and then unban me after I emailed him

However, since most of the writers/members on this site are cool, I’m gonna have to go with one big tie on this one.

Please don’t ban me again Kev, I promise to be a good Lions fan and never troll ever again…well, maybe just a lil…no I’m serious, I really won’t.

From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!

by DLions4Eva on Sep 23, 2011 10:19 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You'll always get a pass from me beacuse you're a Tigers fan!

Whenever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft, it changes its call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 23, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

All the WCG members are my favorites...

I can’t pick just a few.

Whenever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft, it changes its call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 23, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I notice you said "members" only

and not “writers.”

Weekend contributor and official editorial lackey/waitstaff at Windy City Gridiron
If a people-avoiding gaming hermit is on Twitter, I should be too. Follow me!

by Steven Schweickert on Sep 23, 2011 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

writers are members too

can’t we all just get a long

Whenever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft, it changes its call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 23, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

... a long what?

Just in case, no.

Weekend contributor and official editorial lackey/waitstaff at Windy City Gridiron
If a people-avoiding gaming hermit is on Twitter, I should be too. Follow me!

by Steven Schweickert on Sep 23, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

a long whatever!

Whenever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft, it changes its call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 23, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

But if you could pick a favorite, who would it be???

Steven Hawking was paralysed after Mr. T pitied him so hard he was hurled through the air and crashed into an orphanage, killing 50.

by Ditkavsworld on Sep 23, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Adam T

Whenever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft, it changes its call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 23, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Steven Hawking was paralysed after Mr. T pitied him so hard he was hurled through the air and crashed into an orphanage, killing 50.

by Ditkavsworld on Sep 23, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well color me offended.

But props for these long posts on the phone.

Steven Hawking was paralysed after Mr. T pitied him so hard he was hurled through the air and crashed into an orphanage, killing 50.

by Ditkavsworld on Sep 23, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure I understand why people like you do what you do.

I know Smudgers does it too and I generally like him. I just don’t get talking smack (even mild smack) to a rival fan base for the “fun of it”. It’s not that I can’t take criticism about my team I just don’t see how smack talk can be “friendly”? You are talking bad about a rival’s team on that rivals website. You are looking to irritate and annoy people. Why else do it? If you want to talk x’s and o’s or discuss what’s going on with our offensive line that’s just fine but to come here to give us crap about our team, no matter how “friendly” just seems to me like looking for trouble. What I don’t get is why you act surprised when people come after you (a Lion fan) talking crap to us on our site. What do you expect to gain? I don’t “not like you” I just plain don’t get you.

Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.

by Just Dave on Sep 22, 2011 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just smile and nod, Dave...

Smile and nod…

Weekend contributor and official editorial lackey/waitstaff at Windy City Gridiron
If a people-avoiding gaming hermit is on Twitter, I should be too. Follow me!

by Steven Schweickert on Sep 22, 2011 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins....

Homer Simpson, smiling and nodding….

Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.

by Just Dave on Sep 22, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

let me break it down for ya

Ever see that movie,“What’s eating Gilbert Grape”? Well, if you did than you would remember the scene where the giant mom finally gets out of the house and the townspeople are staring and making comments. While this is going on, Leonardo Decaprio’s character (who is mentally handicapped) is saying hi to the townspeople and waving at them not even realizing what is going on.

Think of me as that guy, and then you’ve started to figure me out.

From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!

by DLions4Eva on Sep 23, 2011 12:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

The film set in Endora Iowa?

Based loosely on Eldora Iowa. A town very near to where I grew up. With Johnny Depp playing Gilbert and Juliette Lewis plays Becky, his romantic interest? The film that earned DiCaprio a much deserved nomination for best supporting actor? Never heard of it.

Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.

by Just Dave on Sep 23, 2011 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

You grew up near Iowa?

You and Ashton Kutcher must be bff’s by now, right?

From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!

by DLions4Eva on Sep 23, 2011 10:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

He and Demi and I routinely attend Hawkeye games together.

Tom Arnold sometimes tags along.

Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.

by Just Dave on Sep 23, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

The funny thing is

Tom Arnold also seems to be at every Red Wing game I’m at. I look over to my left, there he is eating a giant Red Wing shaped pretzel.

I look to my right, and there he is with what looks like the biggest, most annoying, and untalented woman I’ve ever seen…until I realize its his ex-wife, you know, the one who had her own show? Yeah, that one.

That damn Tom Arnold is a stalker I tell ya’!

From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!

by DLions4Eva on Sep 23, 2011 12:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not overly familiar with the movie,

but I know your character already.

Weekend contributor and official editorial lackey/waitstaff at Windy City Gridiron
If a people-avoiding gaming hermit is on Twitter, I should be too. Follow me!

by Steven Schweickert on Sep 23, 2011 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I moreless talk x's and o's on other sites.

Granted, I have talked a tiny bit of smack on other sites (MHR and DN), but it’s almost always come in playful banter to a provoked response. And I can’t recount a time it’s ever been un-respectful. Also, I generally try to build a rapport with people before I ever joke back.

I can respect other teams, while still joking on their crypt-keeping, waffle-loving, weenus-picture-taking, grandpa of a quarterback.

-------
cheekymonkeyart.com | Follow me on: twitter | facebook | tumblr

by David Taylor on Sep 22, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also

you all seem to be under this weird impression that I read all the threads.

Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.

Writer at windycitygridiron.com | @KDoggers

by Kev H on Sep 23, 2011 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Some people just don't get/appreciate what you bring to the table.

Again people, channel your inner Kevness.

Steven Hawking was paralysed after Mr. T pitied him so hard he was hurled through the air and crashed into an orphanage, killing 50.

by Ditkavsworld on Sep 23, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

You have officially become the hype-promoting variant

of the world’s oldest profession.

Enjoy that.

Weekend contributor and official editorial lackey/waitstaff at Windy City Gridiron
If a people-avoiding gaming hermit is on Twitter, I should be too. Follow me!

by Steven Schweickert on Sep 23, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Somebody sounds jealous.

Steven Hawking was paralysed after Mr. T pitied him so hard he was hurled through the air and crashed into an orphanage, killing 50.

by Ditkavsworld on Sep 23, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah

I’m not attention-friendly. ;)

Weekend contributor and official editorial lackey/waitstaff at Windy City Gridiron
If a people-avoiding gaming hermit is on Twitter, I should be too. Follow me!

by Steven Schweickert on Sep 23, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still <3 u big guy.

Steven Hawking was paralysed after Mr. T pitied him so hard he was hurled through the air and crashed into an orphanage, killing 50.

by Ditkavsworld on Sep 23, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can the Bears O-line run block?

It’s not like Forte had gaping holes to dance through all day against the Saints.

Often Wrong, Never In Doubt.

by Gromowicz on Sep 22, 2011 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

O-linemen in the 4th quarter

“Meh whatever we lost, lets just coast”

We Are Guardian Force...READ IT!...BAM!!!

by T.Moore on Sep 22, 2011 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Webb, for a reason only known to Webb, ignored the defensive end to his left and Galette picked up his second sack of the day.

I blame this one in particular for my hangover the next day.

by oripunk3485 on Sep 22, 2011 2:44 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

JERRY DID EVERYTHING HE COULD DO

Did you read this crap? This is what Jerry is feeding you on Bears.com – that the Bears did “everything they could do” to replenish their weak ass line. “We drafted one guy and brought in a veteran”.

Don’t tell me you did everything you could Jerry, because when you do, you insult my intelligence, and it makes me very angry. (Apologies to Michael Corleone).

If you did everything you could do, you would have drafted a guard in Round 2, instead of
a short armed DT who is inactive at a position of strength.

If you did everything you could do, you could have signed a stud guard like Harvey Dahl or Davin Joseph or Justin Blalock.

If you did everything you could do, you would have signed a swing tackle who isn’t
a turnstyle bust who is going to get Cutler killed.

You’ve still got 20 mil under the cap you moron. Stop insulting an intelligent fan base.
Better yet, retire.

by taketheunder on Sep 22, 2011 2:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Well played.

Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.

by Just Dave on Sep 22, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

LMFAO...

Thanks Kev…we all needed to read that.

I was hoping for some holding penalties to show us they at least cared about not getting Cutler killed, but I guess you have to be closer to the d-linemen to grab them or make any attempt to impede them whatsoever!

"There's a fine line between stupid, and clever!"

by LostInSTL on Sep 22, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't even care about Lovie or the coaches anymore

If JA is gone by this time next year, I’ll be happy.

by Midway Bully on Sep 22, 2011 4:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

…So we can usher in the Ruskell era. My cup runneth over.

When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm actually putting u between me and an ass.

by Spongie on Sep 22, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is a reason the Martz has not been a winner since. leaving St. Louis.

He pulled the same one-sideed play calling in Detroit. Do the Bears have to have a 0-16 season before the front office notices? The O-line need help, help in the form of time to develope the young players, help in the form of play calling that helps them to grow. With Martz it seems that he wants his system to be the star of the show rather than the players or the team. Martz play calling cost San Francisco, it cost Detroit, now is costing the Bears. Lovey has to be the head coach and put is foot dead in Martz’s sit down. He cannot leave the offense soley to Martz.

by Sirbrek on Sep 22, 2011 6:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Just imagine how excited the chicago bears fans would be if only we had a conservative offense.

You know, like an offense that got off the bus running. 3rd down draw plays…3 tight ends…hold onto the ball and punt…let the defense score! Yeah, those were the days….

by mick11 on Sep 22, 2011 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, sarcasm, yeah that's what that is.

Being a meatball not only makes me delicious, but it also makes me all warm inside.

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Sep 22, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice

Whenever Mike Ditka boards an aircraft, it changes its call sign to Bear Force One.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Sep 23, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, Mad Mike was expected to be a winner in DET and SF?

I mean come on now, say what you want about Martz and his shady as hell playcalling, but to say that he caused the downfall of both those teams is ridiculous. He improved both teams offensively, and even though his offenses still allowed a crapload of sacks, you cannot deny that both teams faltered offensively after he left. Mediocre teams, Martz may have been a problem, but not a significant one. He didn’t have much to work with then, and he doesn’t have much now. Apparently he needs pro bowl talent at all positions, but that’s a load of crap. If this team had halfway decent players on the o line and at the WR position, this team is going places.

John Kitna and Roy Williams had their best seasons under the guy. You can make the case that RW was a first round pick, so that was expected of him, and you can also say that anyone can put up 4000 yards in a pass happy offense, but looking at both those players history, you can make a case that MM was good for them. RW hasn’t played like a PB player since, and Kitna is an old backup.

I’m not saying let the dude off the hook, but the last thing this offense needs is another OC. What we do need is to rein MM in again, tighten that leash like last year. Is it a pain in the ass that we have to do that a year removed from Cutler’s concussion? Yes it is, but if it means the Bears will take a similar route like they did last year, I could care less.

by Midway Bully on Sep 22, 2011 8:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Actually, Matt Millen cost the Lions

Martz just helped make it worse.

From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!

by DLions4Eva on Sep 23, 2011 10:26 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Angelo

The problem i have with Angelo’s comments is that he said he picked a couple of offensive line guys early in the draft (1st round), and got a guy (in his prime) in free agency. But the problem is that those guys are not producing. Carimi ill give a pass because we dont know how good he is yet. But if you are picking guys up in the 1st round and free agency and they are not making your o-line much better, you have a problem picking talent, which is your #1 job! Look at all the wasted picks in safety and linebacker 2010, 2009, 2008 draft. it seems to be getting worse only the 1st 2 picks are serviceable in this years draft.

by Bears-Bullsfan on Sep 22, 2011 10:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Windy City Gridiron is the best independent site on the internet for breaking news, in-depth analysis, and hardcore discussion about the Chicago Bears

Community Guidelines

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Images-8_small
Why the Offensive Line will be fine.

Recent FanPosts

029_small
Solving a Crisis: Redzone Edition
Windycityflyer_small
SMD's Bottom 5
Images-8_small
Yahoo Fantasy Football Sign-up. Need contact info soon
Small
We may not know DT Nate Collins but the Chicago Bears do.
029_small
Is it time for a contract? Oh no, not another Matt Forte post...
Burlacher2_small
Is Winning Games a Specialty?
Burlacher2_small
Apparently, Defense Wins Championships...
Fox_small
Bad start for AJ Jenkins
Burlacher2_small
What's It Take to Win?

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Managers

Windycity_small Adam T

189886_210123485665309_100000029768895_888721_5830650_n__1__small Dane Noble

Editors

Sackwatchcutler_small Lester A. Wiltfong Jr.

535321_3734130120778_1501804679_3253247_588486681_n_small David Taylor

Orange_shy_guy_small Steven Schweickert

Capture_small Kev H

Contributing Writers

Lincoln_small Sam Householder

Leprechaun_small Spongie

Polishsausage_small Steve Ronkowski

Icothgmts_small T.J. Shouse

Joe_20mantegna-bill_20swerski_small Superfans

P981d5c2_reasonably_small_small DaveGilbertNFL