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This Feels Familiar: Packers Defeat Bears 27-17

I feel like we've seen this game before. The other team plays well to start the game, the Bears play well enough to hang with them and the score is somewhat close at half-time, then the Bears' offense starts sputtering and the other team starts pulling away, sacking the Bears' quarterback and adding a few points, and next thing you know the game is over.

Today's 27-17 defeat at the hands of the Packers had the feel of last week's Saints matchup, only with a slightly better offensive showing - it feels like the Bears are still in it, and they just fall flat. Like last week, Jay Cutler wasn't sacked until the third quarter; like last week, Dane Sanzenbacher caught an early touchdown pass; and like last week, false start and holding penalties, dropped passes and sacks marred much of the offensive production.

One big difference between this week and last week, though, was that Martz's playcalling was not the difference in the ball game. While the stat sheet shows approximately the same number of rushes as last week, they were better sprinkled throughout the game. And he did have some of his "What the fleep are you doing?" moments. But they weren't what cost the Bears the game. Execution and penalties were the primary culprits.

Quick, disappointing numbers after the jump...

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Jay Cutler: 20/36, 302 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT; 3 rushes, 11 yards

Matt Forte: 9 carries, 2 yards (!!!!!); 7 receptions, 80 yards
Johnny Knox: 4 receptions, 84 yards - 9 targets
Dane Sanzenbacher: 5 receptions, 27 yards, TD
Roy Williams: 0 receptions - 4 targets

Julius Peppers, Henry Melton: 1 sack apiece

Aaron Rodger: 28/38, 297 yards, 3 TD, INT; 1 rush, 3 yards

Ryan Grant: 17 carries, 92 yards
Greg Jennings: 9 receptions, 119 yards
Jermichael Finley: 7 receptions, 85 yards, 3 TDs
Jarius Wynn: 2 sacks; Jarrett Bush: sack
Morgan Burnett: 2 INT

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If Cutler wouldn't overthrow so many guys I'd be willing to say Roy Will, he can get open.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

It doesn't matter

If Cutler isn’t overthrowing it, the receivers are dropping the easy passes.

Offense can’t get on the same page more than one or two plays a drive.

In short, in life, as in a foot-ball game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard; don't foul and don't shirk, but hit the line hard!" Theodore Roosevelt

by LRT on Sep 25, 2011 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm with ya there

i figured that with a year in the system they would be getting separation… but uh.. not so much

by GtM on Sep 25, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

we just spent a whole week cursing Martz for not running te ball

and he didn’t run it this week either

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 6:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Not like we could.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

only ran it 11 times including Cutty's

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

But at least they weren't all in the first quarter.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 25, 2011 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

we were promised a balanced offense

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would running thirty times in the second half have helped?

Cause that would have given you balance.

The pass/run split was not the reason we lost.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 25, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

then why did everyone make such a big deal out of it last week?

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last week we ran the ball much more effective

You're never a loser until you quit trying - MIke Ditka

by DutchBear on Sep 25, 2011 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

the stat line isnt 9 att for 30 yards or something, its 9 for 2 yards..

by GtM on Sep 25, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

no we didn't, we had one good run and the rest were like this weeks

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because the entire pass-run split was in the first quarter, and the entire final three quarters were all pass.

So yes, they could tee off last week, with no threat of retribution. This week, just because the runs didn’t get yardage doesn’t mean they weren’t slowing the pass rush.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 25, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Other things that didn't help that were far worse than the playcalling

Penalties
Penalties
Drops
Second and Long
Third and Long
Interceptions
Drops
Penalties
Holding the Football
Drops
Did I mention Penalties?

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 25, 2011 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

sounds like nonsense to me, we had one good run last week in the first Quarter and the rest were pretty lame.

the thought that you call a couple of running plays that go for negative yardage every quarter some how helps the passing game escapes me.

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, so you'd rather the defense tee off on the quarterback every play, every drive?

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 25, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m sure my blood pressure has dropped to normal levels after I started skipping everything ed_brown contributes to threads. Highly recommended.

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by Spongie on Sep 25, 2011 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was here a couple of days before I realized it was smart to skip everything you contribued Spongie

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Funny. I don't see you skipping.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 25, 2011 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I try to skip where no one sees me

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Lol

Nice one, all i can picture is Ben Stein skipping.

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by Ditkavsworld on Sep 26, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

you play to win the game

how constructive is calling running plays on 2 or 3 and long? sure it saves a little wear and tear on your QB but it is not playing to win.

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely agree, and I said myself there were some "WTFF" moments in the playcalling

But there are bigger culprits than just the playcalling.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 25, 2011 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

when the running game is not working you end up with more 2nd and 3rd and longs to deal with.

which limits your play calling to plays that can get more yardage. More yardage less chance of success etc.

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which goes back to execution.

When players aren’t catching passes and you’re taking penalties, you also end up in second and long/third and long.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 25, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey you!

Quit have reasonable answers to hyperbole!

by Arbusto on Sep 26, 2011 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Go away old man. Really. Please.

I’m sick of your contradictory posts Ed. And, as I’ve already made it clear, I’m done with you. But I’ll give you this last post….. Sometimes when we suck, you’ll blame the coaching. When we get on the coaching you’ll blame the players. When we get on the players you’ll blame the scheme. When we blame the scheme you’ll find fault with the execution. When we get critical of the execution you’ll blame the play calling. Angelo and the coaching staff are off limits as far as you’re concerned, but all of US are free targets for you to attack. You think you understand sarcasm but all you do is contradict yourself constantly and give the excuse that you are older than all of us and therefore understand everything much better and have better perspective. Lame. This is how I see you. I’m sorry.

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by Just Dave on Sep 25, 2011 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh c'mon!

Aren’t we all forgetting something?!

We are all Bears fans here, no matter what type of opinions we have

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now now J'Dave...

1. Press “z” to jump to new comment.
2. Scan poster’s name at bottom before reading.
3. If it’s ed_brown, immediately press “z” to jump to next new comment. Your WCG experience will be better for it (and, not coincidentally, my limited gridiron IQ is reversing its slow decline).

I used to do the same thing with Geomak… and realised a few weeks ago that ed is effectively the second coming of Geomak. Don’t forget what Bertrand Russell said about the cocksure…..

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by Spongie on Sep 26, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

or you can use this

troll killer

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 26, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ooo, I would, but I use Firefox…

When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm actually putting u between me and an ass.

by Spongie on Sep 26, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

i tried to help

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 26, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

we were also promised that the OLine was not that bad

and when you are down 2 scores, you have to pass more. am not defending Martz, IMHO he needs to go and a more balanced attack must happen, but we wont see that anytime soon.

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

A balanced attack...

at .7 ypc.

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Sep 25, 2011 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

im not saying running more wins today

but

1. being predictable
2. coached to run plays that your talent does not match with
3. no audible allowed (even if it audibles from a certain pass to another one)

combine to a loss every time

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely have to disagree with you.

1) Being predictable isn’t actually related to ‘having a balanced attack’. Martz, while not running, normally extends the screen game into the ‘running game’, and short passes by call are absolutely different to defend than deep calls.
2) i don’t think this is correct. i think it’s more the case that the offensive line is completely overmatched, and the WR’s haven’t been playing to their talent level. I think you could try to install ANY SINGLE OFFENSIVE COACHES PHILOSOPHY, and they’d still look as pathetic.
3) I think that you overrate audibles.

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Sep 25, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

first of all

more balance =/= balanced

1. running a few more times when the Packers are consistently sitting 6+ back in coverage might help them move the ball. I am not saying it wins this game, but it sure would help keep their defense honest

2. you cannot run an offense designed for players you do not have, its simple as that. I understand and agree about the talent not producing as you state, but if the offense plays called are more in tune with the talent on the field it can only help

3. audibles would help a lot, and i could be right just as easily as wrong, but when the defense KNOWS you are not going to audible it only makes it that much easier for them. It also cannot be proven fact or fiction since Martz refuses to allow it

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Martz's runs

are terribly called. Pulls and draws and other calls that make no sense when you know defenders will be in the backfield within a second or two.

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by LRT on Sep 25, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

for 4 yards

for christ sake, you wanted more of that?

by mick11 on Sep 25, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

This offense isn't unbalanced...

it’s just devoid of WRs/TEs who can catch or o-linemen who can block. They just suck at a fundamental level. no OC can fix this crapfest!

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by LostInSTL on Sep 25, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

also doesnt help when playing from behind

that changes everything that is planned, and when we are losing Martz scratches the run game and forgets we dont have Isaac Bruce (for example) running down field with the Pace and Timemrman keeping Warner off his ass

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

This isn't on Martz...

this offense is awful because of their lack of talent. They are just bad.

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by LostInSTL on Sep 25, 2011 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

A lot of it is on him

his system is not built to players he has, the QB cannot audible per his offense, and he is the one calling the plays.

The players own a good share, but you cannot fault them for running the play they are given, even if the play does not match the teams roster

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last week...

Martz was at fault because he called a bad game. This week, his play calling was fine, the offense simply did not execute the plays well at all. Cutler threw a ton of bad balls. The WRs/TEs still couldn’t catch anything. The o-line cannot run block, even though Tice says they are “elite” run blockers. This offense is worse than last year and will not improve if Martz calls tons of runs either. They suck and will continue to do so all year. I just hope that if they lose, they do it consistently so they can add some talent for next year.

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by LostInSTL on Sep 25, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

which is where Martz HAS to change his offensive calls to match

when you cannot do things you cannot call the same plays that have not worked. That is where Martz is 110% guilty

I agree the talent on the field has to produce, but they can literally only run the plays Martz tells them to

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely Agreed

Martz can call all of the running plays he wants to, but if our line can’t run-block, then we will continue to suck. The only possible solution for Martz to try and compensate for a bad O-line is to try and shorten up the pass plays to get the ball out of Cutler’s hands faster – but that would go against his whole offensive philosophy. Martz cannot really call any plays that will help the WRs run better routes or catch the ball better.

In short, if your team sucks because of a lack of talent, then it will continue to suck, despite the play calling.

by JimmyMack on Sep 25, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

This one stings

Urlacher’s int was a perfect gift for the offense getting the ball at mid field they then go on to go back 30 yards.

i need a drink…..make that 5

Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.

by Bear Lovin 21 on Sep 25, 2011 6:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Big time choke by bears offense

That was amateur hour on a most critical possession.

by No It All on Sep 25, 2011 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

It really was the defense played their asses off

any other defense gives up 40

That possession was a gift for the offense to atleast get a FG.

just so damn frustrating

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by Bear Lovin 21 on Sep 25, 2011 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was watching the game with my dad

And he joked that they might not even be able to punt it back to the original line of scrimmage on that “drive”.

They have two liter bottles now? To think I spent all that time demanding a liter!

by Say Ramrod on Sep 25, 2011 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

On a positive note for the day,

Always happy when the Eagles and Jets lose….

by David in Maine on Sep 25, 2011 6:42 PM CDT reply actions  

rushing

i cannot believe the rushing yards for this bears team. we have an identity, you know a team that has not 1 but 2 running backs in the HOF. without this we are going no where this season. lets hope Barber is ready to go next week. i am not taking anything away from Forte just pay the man

by stepeo on Sep 25, 2011 6:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Actually four. Beattie Feathers, Red, Walter and Gale.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry about the missing two running backs, i just was so mad at the pitifull carries i just rushed to post. galloping ghost,beattie feathers and walter will be turning in their graves. gayle will and justifiabley have a rant tomorrow i hope.

by stepeo on Sep 25, 2011 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe that’s why they don’t want to pay Forte, since he’s barely used as a running back any more. Might as well replace him with another slot receiver for all those dump-off passes and screens.

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by Spongie on Sep 25, 2011 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Take nothing away from the Packers, they won this game in the first 50 minutes

but the officiating was horrible all game (to both teams) and two calls changed the game in the late minutes, the Hester/Shields should have been off setting and did anyone at all see a hold on the Knox return? When even Fox’s announcers are in the Bears corner asking where it was, that says something.

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 6:44 PM CDT reply actions  

agree on the officiating

The phantom hold on the Knox return was BS!
PI on Woodson on the double move by Hester (2Q?) wasnt called.
At least twice GB Oline moved and instead Pep and Reed were called offsides.

I’d probably have more but got called into work early. Glad I didnt see the ending, I’d be in total meatball mode.

by mooseknucks on Sep 25, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to start anything but...

here is the holding call. It was far away from the officials and where the flag was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwJU7zZkwJo

It was on Bush right after the snap. Not sure if the official had trouble getting out the flag or just delayed or what….. but he did pull the jersey while tailing him from behind. I don’t think it would have changed the outcome since the entire coverage team was lost on that play (nice play btw, totally fooled everyone).

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 4:44 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

That was ticky-tack at best

Graham grabbed him a little bit, but those are the type of plays that usually don’t get called.

by NorthSideBearsFan on Sep 26, 2011 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

thanks, that is the first time i seen it

i dont know if it should have been flagged, especially that late in the game, but it is what it is

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 26, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

That kind of stuff happens every play if one looks hard enough

usually a non call but for whatever reason it was this time

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by ThorCo on Sep 26, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

This was just awful

Hester’s penalty was unecessary, as was graham’s on the return.

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by BearNecessities on Sep 25, 2011 6:44 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't like blaming outcomes on the stripes

But no pass interference on what would have been a Hester TD

AND

The phantom holding on the punt return for a TD

both HUGE momentum killers

by torch on Sep 25, 2011 6:44 PM CDT reply actions  

I wouldnt blame the zebras, but they definitely didn’t help our cause during the game. Might be a biased fan view, but there were definitely some penalties that were creative to say the least . That holding PR was …. nevermind. Still too dumbfounded to speak on it

by Beer Down! on Sep 25, 2011 8:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

We should get used to this...

because there isn’t an offensive guru in the world that can fix this crapfest. Glad to know the Bears are squandering the last years of a good defense with this garbage. Johnny Knox is officially a waste of a roster spot. Add Craig Steltz to the list of former Bears players that will not play in the NFL ever again. Most of the Bears successes came because of Packer failures. This team is worse than last year and not as healthy. Hopefully we can lock up Lovie for another 10 years to perpetuate this mediocrity! Great work Bears! I hope we can stay with the Panthers next week. When do we storm the walls at Halas Hall again…and will the zombie of George be leading the charge!

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by LostInSTL on Sep 25, 2011 6:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Guys we rushed for 4 YARDS

we are not going to win doing that

Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance this week over Rodgers crumpled on the turf

by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 6:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Anyone else finally ready

to agree that Johnny Knox isn’t a #1

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by BearNecessities on Sep 25, 2011 6:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Where's SMD??

Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance this week over Rodgers crumpled on the turf

by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Busy fellating Roy Williams?

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by Spongie on Sep 25, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

he will now

especially with that huge Know dropped pass today.

Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance this week over Rodgers crumpled on the turf

by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jay Cutler

But it doesnt matter cause every year JA is " happy with our WR corps."

by No It All on Sep 25, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's not a #4...

He’s a a fast kid who cannot run routes or catch the football. I call that a track star. Maybe he’s in the wrong profession.

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by LostInSTL on Sep 25, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Knox was on the Packers or any team with a couple of good veteran receivers

he’d be fine. He’s a good player, just not a primary target. Neither is Hester. That’s the problem with the receiving corp but Lovie/Jerry refuse to admit that. Williams dropped a sure TD as well. That ball wasn’t knocked out, the replay clearly showed it bounce off his body before the DB got his hands in there.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Cutler is not the QB for a Martz offense that is based on accuracy, quick release, and quick reads. That is not and never has been Jay’s strong suit. As is typical of the Bears organization, they mortgage their future on a QB but then go an get an OC who has a system that doesn’t fit the player. On top of that, they don’t invest anything in their O-line, which has been terrible for years, or their receiving corp where they try to use players the rest of the league knows are 2nd or 3rd options at best. JA/Lovie think they’re smarter than everyone else and this is what you get.

by BearFan611 on Sep 25, 2011 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

true, we have some good complimentary WR;s

we lack a true #1 (yet again)

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

While I agree with most of your assessment...

Johnny Knox is a gimmick who lacks the fundamental skills of a WR. He can’t catch, and in his line of work, that’s kinda important.

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by LostInSTL on Sep 25, 2011 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Boy did I catch hell around here when I called Knox a one trick pony

and asking for a #1 WR not named Matt Jones.

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

look up

Wide receiver in webster’s what do you see?

Matt flippin Jones

by GtM on Sep 25, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

or a police blotter

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think his hands are great but they're not bad.

He actually made a couple of nice catches today. In my opinion, he only had one rea drop (granted, it was a big one), the last one should have been an interference call, the DB clearly pulled his lead arm down before the ball got there. I also disagree with what Aikman said about the way he ran that particular route. The ball was in the air when he made the cut, he didn’t slow down.

Again, he is not a great WR but he is young and should get better. Another guy who really has been getting a free pass is Darryl Drake. Doesn’t it strike anyone else as odd that NONE of the receivers the Bears have can run routes, fight for balls, or shield DB’s? It just seems like it’s almost statistically impossible that for the seven years he’s been around that absolutely NOBODY can do any of those things.

by BearFan611 on Sep 25, 2011 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point about Drake

People forget that with all of the problems and weak production that we’ve had out of the WR position over the years, he’s the common denominator. I don’t know what the problem is with Knox, it just seems like maybe a general lack of concentration. He really needs to work on his fundamentals to create separation, finish routes and make tough catches the DB is challenging him.

by JimmyMack on Sep 25, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to give myself too much credit...

but I have been ripping Drake for years. I am a huge critic of Lovie’s position coaches because the Bears have failed to evaluate, draft, or develop talent for years now. His best players were either already here or were FAs from somewhere else. Other than Briggs, Forte, and Melton, I do not see evidence of of players who were drafted by Lovie and developed into quality starters. Throw in Bennett as another possible success and that’s not very many. The current roster has tons of “potential” guys who are fundamentally unsound at their respective positions and make mental and physical errors far too often or are simply miscast and in way over their talent level.

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by LostInSTL on Sep 26, 2011 6:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Worst receiving corp ever

And we could have been addressing the o-line instead of drafting pool jumpers and bench press champions. Where is Paea anyway?

by weasel27 on Sep 25, 2011 6:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I had been saying it had to hit Knox in the numbers for him to make the catch

He proved me wrong again with that easy drop there late. That ball hit him square in the chest, Marino or Montana couldnt have thrown it any better. I am worried Roy Williams is rubbing off on this receiving corp. Is it me or since his arrival drops have skyrocketted????

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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Sep 26, 2011 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was already on board.

I said last week, our receivers are terribad.

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by Ditkavsworld on Sep 26, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm all for Knox

as our number 2/3…I’m off the Knox as a number 1 train

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by ThorCo on Sep 26, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I prefer Knox over Hester, but basicly they are the same receiver

They are both about 2-3 catches a game for 20 yds each.

Where the Bears are hurting is not having the guy who can give you 7-9 catches a game for 8 yds per catch on 1st down. That’s where we’re missing Bennett and Olsen. Not the Olsen of last year, but the Olsen before Martz. The one who caught 60 balls for a 10 yd per catch average.

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by HighTops on Sep 26, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

But

let’s not panic. We played the toughest 3 weeks of anyone in the NFL and it is not surprising we are 1-2. We were also playing without 5 starters today so let’s get healthy and move on to an easier part of our schedule.

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 6:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, we still play the Chiefs, Broncos, etc later on.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

seattle, carolina

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

vikings as well

and im still not sold on the lions

Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.

by Bear Lovin 21 on Sep 25, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

The way we're playing now

I won’t be surprised at all if we split with the Lions. They don’t seem to be the gimme 2 wins team every year these days.

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by Chitownproduct on Sep 25, 2011 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Replaced by the Vikes.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can rationale wait until later in the week

we imploded during 2 important early games

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by BearNecessities on Sep 25, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's face it juicebox

we got beat by better teams. (right now)

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm facing it

I just hope everyone else is ready to face it oh, say, 6-8 more times this year

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by BearNecessities on Sep 25, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say 5..

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

the Cub fan in me is covering his ears screaming as i have heard that line before

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

here comes the company line

“it’s still early” “there’s a lot of football left” “we’ve got time to clean it up”

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by BearNecessities on Sep 25, 2011 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

we have issues with Oline and wr that will not go away but that is why Lovie gets paid alot of money

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Coachspeak*

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

No...

If we win against Carolina we will be even after af very difficult first quarter of the football season.

If we lose we will simply have to improve in the final 3 quarters of the season.

by No It All on Sep 25, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lot's of things

- D played well and kept us in the game
- Cutler looked off on a lot of throws
- Pass protection was better than I expected
- Receivers corps is mediocre
- Officials made some dubious decisions

We should be in better shape getting Louis, Carimi, Bennett and Harris back.

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by DutchBear on Sep 25, 2011 6:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, GB is a blitzing D and only 3 sacks.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

and 2 of those were coverage sacks.

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Passing. Rushing was blown up.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed....

Just was thankful Cutler didn’t get maimed for a change…

by David in Maine on Sep 25, 2011 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

well...

pass blocking. Our run blocking was horrible today. guards were late on trap blocks all friggin day. Chris Williams was horrendous.

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you ignore the drive after Lach's pick

false start, hold….rinse repeat

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by ThorCo on Sep 26, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

helps the coverage

when they can drop 6 or more knowing the Bears are not running. Cutler needs to be able to audible into run plays from time to time in order to keep the defense honest

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

again..he is not allwoed to audible

he is given options on every play to offset the original look being blown up. He has to make the right choice and It hought Jay made a lot of poor choices today.

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

That might be his point, though. Why can’t an audible to a run play be built into the scheme? Because “Martz doesn’t do that”?

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by Spongie on Sep 25, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree, just not Jay's fault

has to play the cards he is dealt with

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

and on 3rd and short (for example) Cutler has to force a pass that is called when the defense is in an obvious pass coverage and a run might be more successful.

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because Forte would be running a small route

a short RB pass is the same as a run right…right…

ugh

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by ThorCo on Sep 26, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

i have to give the game ball to the D they did quite rightly kept us in the game, also giving our o chances to even the score.

by stepeo on Sep 25, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

since when do you get a game ball for losing?

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

All kids get trophies nowadays

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never got a trophy for losing when I was a kid I mean if you get one for losing what's the point?

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am being sarcastic..

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

i just wanted to elevate the D they did keep us within reach of winning or putting us in a chance of going into overtime.

by stepeo on Sep 25, 2011 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

We are in the "feel good" age now

Everyone gets a trophy or ribbon… some little leagues are actually pushing to stop keeping score so no kid feels like they lost…

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 4:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

That will never work

I played in a youth soccer league when I was little…everybody knew the damn score even if it wasn’t “official”…

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by ThorCo on Sep 26, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

just to encourage them. it would be an easy decision to give up

by stepeo on Sep 25, 2011 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

They’re professionals. If you “give up” so easily, you don’t deserve that label.

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by Spongie on Sep 25, 2011 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

They didn't have to blitz...

and now they have proven that to beat the Bears offense all you need to do is show up and either blitz or not blitz and you will win!

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by LostInSTL on Sep 25, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Clay Matthews is a blitzer.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh and Woodson was constantly mentioned being picked up on the blitz.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

which is constantly

how does he get away with that

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hence his "resurgence"

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

They blitzed quite a bit.

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

They run a 3-4...

so they rushed Matthews as the 4th guy on most plays. Occasionally they sent a second LB, but that’s still only 5 guys and the Bears barely kept it together blocking 6 on 5. That’s just bad.

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by LostInSTL on Sep 25, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again, Woodson, Bush, etc were blitzed. They blitzed constantly and they did well since they only

gave up two sacks in three quarters and something like 7 knockdowns all game.

Not bad at all.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

For a shitty O-line perhaps...

but they, of course, made up for it by blocking well on run plays right??…

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by LostInSTL on Sep 25, 2011 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right.

You are just trying to find anything wrong.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

What good did you see???...

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by LostInSTL on Sep 25, 2011 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Incorrect

Long snapping was great, always is…

(Unless you’re Desmond Clark)

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by Say Ramrod on Sep 25, 2011 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dez

Can I call you that? Dez, how did you get cut from this sad group of WRs/TEs? Surely you could catch the ball better than them, right?

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by Say Ramrod on Sep 25, 2011 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

secretly the Bears wanted to see the Lions win?

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

They kept Cutler off his back...

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because the Packers played more coverage...

they didn’t blitz like they can and often do. They only sent more than 6 guys on a handful of plays. And still the Bears couldn’t run the ball.

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by LostInSTL on Sep 25, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Both outside guys were coming along with

the inside backer and corners at times. He did not have pressure alot from 4 man rush.

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 6:59 PM CDT reply actions  

If they don't improve and make playoffs

it’s time to blow this thing up.

The offense is absolutely pathetic.

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by propheteer on Sep 25, 2011 7:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Playoffs!?!?

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hello?

2 or 3 running plays Per Quarter is balanced play calling??
How about calling it as it is, … a very predictable game plan.
Some of Jays throws where so far off they where headscratchers and when he did execute, the receivers would get a bad case of the droppsies at the worst time:(
OL holds, false starts, sacks, didn’t help.
 Defense gave up a ton of yardage.
The two turn overs by Pep and Lach kept this game a lot closer than it really was.

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by pbanachi on Sep 25, 2011 7:03 PM CDT reply actions  

It's not the end-sheet result, it's how you get there.

The offense is always going to be pass-heavy and a team can win with that.

More runs, sure – but the problem last week was all the runs were in the first quarter. This week, at least the runs were scattered around.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 25, 2011 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Penalties from the perspective of a Packers fan:

I know the gripe about officiating is sometimes frowned upon, but in my view you guys do have a point today. Hester vs. Sam Shields should have been offsetting, and that was an absolute phantom call on that punt return.

Also, Martz should be shot for only calling 11 runs today. So much for “balanced play-calling”.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 25, 2011 7:04 PM CDT reply actions  

11 runs for 4 yards, and you want more?

You really are a packer fan, aren’t you?

by mick11 on Sep 25, 2011 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

A Packers fan,

Whose family is half Bears fans.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 25, 2011 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not only the quantity but the choice of run plays

Martz had the tackle pull in two runs that left Matthews unblocked and he ended up tackling Forte in the backfield both times. I think sometimes Martz is just too smart for his own good or the good of the team.

Matthews was coming off a groin injury, so maybe the best choice was to run at him rather than away from him.

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by HighTops on Sep 26, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

It would be nice if we didn't have to rely on the refs to bail us out.

Like the Sproles TD last week. He stepped out, it should have been reviewed, but we still played badly. Whatever. Let’s beat Carolina next week. 2-2 I’ll take.

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by gafferland on Sep 25, 2011 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

refs had nothing to do with the result today

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bears did not capitalize on opportunities, but the refs are far from casting stones

by Beer Down! on Sep 25, 2011 8:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think the penalty on the PR was very poorly pointed out

Of course, that’s to be expected when Troy Aikman & Joe Buck are calling the game. The penalty was clearly not on the guy they circled. I didn’t see the penalty (didn’t record the game either, damn), but that doesn’t mean there wasn’t one somewhere else on the field. The only thing proven in that replay is that Buck & Aikman are idiots.

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by Wiedmann on Sep 26, 2011 2:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

If the the WRs/TEs can't catch the ball

And the offensive line can’t run block to save their lives… What exactly is this offense going to do?

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by Say Ramrod on Sep 25, 2011 7:08 PM CDT reply actions  

it worked

that one time we did it, like, 8 years ago? so i’m on board

by GtM on Sep 25, 2011 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Makes as much as sense as anything else they try

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by Say Ramrod on Sep 25, 2011 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

One person you can't blame for the Bears loss was Jay Cutler

he had a good game. His receivers suck. all of them. They all suck.

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Cutler was terrible; almost as bad as the receivers.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree. I count 4 egregious drops

Williams at the goal line, Clutts, Knox, and Davis.

Cutler sailed AT LEAST that many passes. Plus the two INTS, the two dropped INTs, the INT taken back by the ridiculous Packer penalty, and the fact the the Davis TD was thrown behind him and he made a great play. Yeah, I’d say Cutler was terrible this game.

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by gafferland on Sep 25, 2011 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Terrible is a strong word

he played poorly at time but was a below average game. Alot of pressure when you can’t crack the 5 yard rushing barrier and have to make things happen with an idiot calling the plays.

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not "terrible"

But it definitely wasn’t a “good” game. I’d say it was “okay.”

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 25, 2011 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa. What happened to the Roy Williams love?

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by Spongie on Sep 25, 2011 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't catch it if it is overthrown by twenty yards and fourteen feet above his head. He was open.

I was talking about Knox and the others.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

no reason that the WR's cannot create a human totem pole

and made those catches, stop making excuses for them and targeting Cutler.

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I blamed the receivers too.............................................................................................

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

nah, way more accurate

and Rex just ended up playing scared. I will never call Sizzle scared. He is a tough SOB.

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're an idiot

Cutler is leagues above Grossman

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

easy on the name calling

he is as frustrated as everyone else

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahaha

i’ll take grossman and our draft picks back any day of the week and twice on SUNDAY!
and stop with the personal attacks.

by mick11 on Sep 25, 2011 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are way off

If the guy had a decent Oline and wr’s how good could he be? these wr’s can’t ever get separation so he has to fit the ball in a tight window. Broncos are one of the worst franchises since they dealt Jay. We have the most talented QB we have had in 50 years and they refuse to surround the guy with talent and he gots the snot kicked out of him weekly without a bitch. Grossman would be curled up in the corner sucjing his thumb..

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe they can't surround the savior with a line and receivers because they traded away their future for him?

And who were these pro bowl receivers Grossman was throwing to? The o-line we had for rex was no better than this collection of clowns either. look it up.

by mick11 on Sep 25, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

You need to do some research

Tait, Rueben Brown, Kreutz in his prime, graza and fred miller are not better than these guys?? This discussion seems pointless.

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pfff, you and your facts! Meatheaded cat is meatheaded.

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by Spongie on Sep 26, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

not in any way

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

hoping your kidding

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jay Cutler had some..horrible throws in this game..and held the ball too long on quite a few.

He deserves some blame as well.

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by Chitownproduct on Sep 25, 2011 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually..

Cutler was not very good in this game either. Yes, the WRs are the WORST in the NFL, but even Cutler was pedestrian in this game. Knox and Hester are fast and NOTHING else. Williams is “questionable” and will be all season. And the Bears have a crappy o-line that cannot run or pass block to any measure of success. I like Forte and hopefully the Bears can piss away his pay day re-signing Lovie and his disaster of a coaching staff. Blow it up now!

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by LostInSTL on Sep 25, 2011 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even a change...

in coaches will fix this hot mess of an offense. The Bears are wasting what is left of a great defense. But at least we won’t have to spend the next few seasons watching the Packers compete for SB titles while the Bears rebuild…..oh crap.

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by LostInSTL on Sep 25, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

will = will not...

drunken edit!

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by LostInSTL on Sep 25, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree with this. Not one of Jay's better performances

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

no no no

too many overthrows, throwing off the back foot, and just forcing the ball.

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rex?

They have two liter bottles now? To think I spent all that time demanding a liter!

by Say Ramrod on Sep 25, 2011 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

unfortunately he looked a little sext today

may still be feeling the beating of the saints game..

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

sexy

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought on a couple throws he seemed a little... out there.

He was sailing them a little against New Orleans late too. I was wondering a little during the game if he might have suffered another concussion but didn’t say anything…

But I’m not a doctor or anything. I have no clue on that or anything.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 25, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

any chance they are sailing due to having to throw over a pressing DLine

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably.

It was just something that crossed my mind.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 25, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

im not looking to make an excuse for him

just curious if it is his control or having to throw over a line, maybe some of each, or if i am missing something else completely

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, sails tend to happen more when you're off your back foot...

Possible most of the throws are happening because he’s reacting to the rush even if it’s not cramping his pocket. It’s definitely more likely than my “concussion” thought.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 25, 2011 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

could be on the back foot due to how many times he has been

hit as a Bear and it is in his head.

I think it is a combo of the all.

the more he is hit, and the more pressure he is having to throw over leads to more passing on the back foot, which in turn leads to sailing passes

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd buy that.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 25, 2011 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

you want the truth?

he isn’t all that good. Denver wanted Cassel instead of him but when that backfired, they fleeced us out of our qb and several draft picks. Cutler is not an elite qb. never was and never will be.

by mick11 on Sep 25, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

they fleeced us out of our qb

Trolling or just stupid? I can’t decide.

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by Spongie on Sep 26, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

yet by the numbers he is one of the best we have had

in a Bears jersey

you can look at that however you like, but the numbers dont lie

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 26, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

They're an NFL team

they don’t do conditioning

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

is it time to elevate Dana Sanzenbacher?

on the depth chart, he seems to be the one who can catch and the one Cutler targets quite often

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Greg Olsen.

He loves the white receivers.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

wtf does color have to do with anything

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not a thing except Scheffler, Olsen and Sanzenbacher were his three favorites.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget the exceedingly cracker-like Brandon Marshall.

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by Spongie on Sep 25, 2011 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

3 outnumbers 1.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

he sure does like to hit ol whitey himself

Matt Forte a lot

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was surely hit a lot today. Had a touchdown. Sanzenbacher was busy over the course of three games.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cuz Kellen Davis and Earl Bennet are really freaking white

Get out of here racist

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes I am racist considering McNabb is my favorite Qb.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh a black QB is my favorite, I'm totally down with bi-raciality

Screw off bro.

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait what?

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

hence why i said my comment above

just pointing out he has no problem hitting white or black receivers. i am still waiting for him to hit an Asian one

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I merely said that his favorite receiver were white. Not racist, point out a fact.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

NO THEY ARENT

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

They were....And Sanzenbacher is at the top now that Bennett has been out.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually Sanzenbacher wasn't even top 3 receiving today

Knox – 4 catches 84 yards

Forte- 7 catches 80 yards

Hester- 3 catches 67 yards

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

IT has NOTHING to do with race

He throws it to whoever the play is supposed to go to or whomever is open.

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are playing the race card.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really guys??

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't do anything and this guy gets on me about race.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're the one saying Cutler's favoring a target because he's white!

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

No I said white receivers had been his favorite targets.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which is a totally false and erroneous statement

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

wtf me?

I didn’t do anything but disagree with his racist remark

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Greg Olsen and Tony Scheffler weren't his favorite

and Sanz hasn’t scored two tds in the red zone the last two weeks. More than any other receiver.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Greg olsen wasn't his favorite.

Knox was. 970yards receivng.

Marshall was his favorite in Denver.

Just shut up.

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yards receiver don't matter as much as tds

targets and catches. Knox is fast so he can YAC it up.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

So.. because they are white..

They are Cutler’s favorite receivers?

Lol..

They are his favorite WRs because they are getting open in the redzone. Has nothing to do with color. race. or anything.
Jesus bro i thought this was all sorted out when MLK died and Obama became president?

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Way to put what I said out of context

I merely found it odd that Dane was mentioned as possibly the favorite target and that Olsen and Scheff were before.

I love how you play the race card for something out of context.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whatever.

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

i mentioned him and said no such thing

i asked if he should move up the depth chart since he seems to be targeted often.

if he is getting open, or left alone due to being a nobody who was undrafted, et al then i dont care what race (which i hadnt mentioned) he is. It was a comment about where he should be on the depth chart and nothing more,

you are the one who did bring race into it

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes and the reason I mentioned that is

he has become popular like Scheff and Olsen before. In a league dominated by great black skill players and a team with a ton of them, he always finds those guys.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah because they're white

That’s exactly why. Not because they find ways to get open, or they are primary targets. It’s because they’re white.

Good call Einstein.

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes...yeah, sure...Bingo buddy. Am I the racist? Or the one that keeps harping on it?

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

i never once said or insinuated you were racist

please do not accuse me of what i didnt do

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think I said you were. Probably my mistake.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

you did.*

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

you did but we are all up in arms over today

and it is easy to reply and mean one thing say another and be read a third way.

i think we can all agree that the Bears are in a shit pile of a mess right now, especially on offense and need to make corrections, adjustments, changes and do so fast before this season is out of reach

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the receiver could be green with purple spots..

since they DO NOT DROP THE DILFING BALL!!!

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by Claudio Oliveira on Sep 25, 2011 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Devin Aromashodu? When was he the favorite?

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bennett and Cutler were together for one season at Vanderbilt and was not the favorite the last two years.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m very close to flagging your entire discussion… for sheer stupidity.

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by Spongie on Sep 26, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

We miss Hitman

Thats the main reason why we have lost the past 2 games.

by BEARSFAN19 on Sep 25, 2011 7:19 PM CDT reply actions  

along with Carimi, Louis, Williams, and EB

Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance this week over Rodgers crumpled on the turf

by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea but Hitman is the main 1

He along with Urlacher control the defense. On Finleys 3rd TD Steltz was out of position, and last week Henderson’s 79 yrd TD catch both Wright and Conte were out of position

by BEARSFAN19 on Sep 25, 2011 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

agree 100 %

why is steltz even on an NFL team

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by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Over-estimating Harris's role on D. The sould comes from Tillman in the secondary and Briggs and Lach run the D

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Over-estimating Harris's role on D. The sould comes from Tillman in the secondary and Briggs and Lach run the D

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

soul

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correct.

"The Cubbie Bears are experiencing a 'Bull' market, so they are not Hawking anything because they are in the Black." Go Cubs, Bears, Bulls and 'Hawks.

by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't sell it short...

my dead grandmother would have been in a better position. Stletz will join a growing list of failed Bears that never again play in the NFL. Great drafting JA!!!

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by LostInSTL on Sep 25, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

He will catch on elsewhere like Worrel and Todd Johnson

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m not so sure that we can pin our losses on the absence of 3 guys who weren’t starting for us or even on the team last season. Without Carimi, Louis and Williams we should be at least as good as we were before adding them to the lineup… otherwise, our depth is truly rubbish.

OK then, our depth is truly rubbish.

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by Spongie on Sep 25, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

they look good...

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

i wouldn’t say good. Not a pushover is one thing, but good?

by Beer Down! on Sep 25, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

IJS

It’s hard to keep running the ball when your RB is averaging -2 yards a carry

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Do you really think

calling a more balanced game today, would’ve made the run game better?

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by DutchBear on Sep 25, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with you on that one

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by DutchBear on Sep 25, 2011 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't get your hopes up regarding Barber

he can run over DB’s but not Dlinemen.

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

True but hes tougher to bring down

It gives us a 1-2 punch with 2 different running styles

by BEARSFAN19 on Sep 25, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

He can't stay healthy, which is why I was wary of the signing.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

They had to pass to win and the receivers couldn’t catch

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

It couldn't have hurt us any worse

His calls with the run looked very basic, and they were very easy reads for Green Bay.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Might be

cause of the O-line. Simpler calls, is easier execution? I don’t know.

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by DutchBear on Sep 25, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Except his running plays were extremely vanilla as well as easy reads by that D

I mean shit, 11 running plays for the 2nd straight week!?

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

The 2008 Denver OL should have a champagne toast every year

Whem Cutler’s sack numbers overtake his total from that year: 11

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by gafferland on Sep 25, 2011 7:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Like I posted at the Sunday Night Open Thread

I am absolutely done being an apologist for Mike Martz. Fire his ass and promote Mike Tice to OC.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 7:37 PM CDT reply actions  

I can't see how Tice doesn't deserve to be fired every bit as much as Martz.

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 7:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Because of this

No matter who is the O-Line coach, Martz’s offenses have always been within the top 10 in sacks surrendered.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

and Tice's lines have been the worst in Bear history or at least the 50 years I can remember.

we just give him a pass

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they all suck

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

how much of that is the lack of OLine signed/drafted over the years

vs. his coaching?

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

he took over and it all went south, your willing to blame everyone but not him?

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

never said that he is free of blame

i was asking an honest question. I tend to think it is a mix of the talent and coaching. when you have shit to coach, you cant typically coach it to being a gold bar

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

like i said

they all suck

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait...what? Tice took over a line that had been regressing for a couple of years

Are you seriously expecting him to get something out of the chickenshit we call and oline? The whole goddamn thing is still an experiment for god’s sake. Tice isn’t the problem, the problem is the FA being absolutely idiotic when it came to fixing their needs. Bringing in any other oline coach isn’t going to do shit. Seriously why the hell are people even expecting Tice to perform some sort of miracle with this line? Get it through your head already.

by Midway Bully on Sep 25, 2011 9:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

And throw this in as well

Even when Martz had pro-bowlers on his O-line, his offense still ranked in the top 10 in sacks surrendered.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Tice is not the problem he is definately not the solution either.

If he can’t work miracles with the Oline how is he going to do that with the entire offense. If you excuse Tice because he has crap to work with then what about Martz? He came in and took over a crappy offense with only two good players. I hear a lot of people saying he should throw out his playbook that he spent 40 years putting together and create a new one that uses the personel he has to their best advantage. Well he has Cutler and Forte and a lot of crap to work with I’d be interested in seeing the best playbook for that..

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait...WHAT!?
If Tice is not the problem he is definately not the solution either.

If he can’t work miracles with the Oline how is he going to do that with the entire offense.

You are expecting Tice to perform miracles with the whole offense? I have no idea what that even means….Last time I checked, he was the offensive line coach only. I don’t care about Martz in regards to this argument, because we are focusing only on the o-line.

And like I said, why are you even expecting him to perform a miracle with the o-line? Their just isn’t enough talent there to make something of that caliber happen.

by Midway Bully on Sep 25, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey lets also give Tice some credit as far as pass pro goes

Against a great Packers D, only 3 sacks were surrendered all game, all of which came during the second half when, you know, Martz became easily predictable?

Run blocking, not so much. Could be easily blamed on our soft interior though. Tice can coach technique, not physical talent.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

Very frustrating to watch. I watched several games today, and watching other offensive lines doing their thing makes me so damn envious. Hell, even the crappy o-lines I watched did a decent job. It’s like night and day man…

by Midway Bully on Sep 25, 2011 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude

Look at Philly’s O-line. Mike Vick got a hand injury thanks to that pathetic bunch. Sacks are bad, but injuries to your QB are far worse.

And not only is Mike Vick hurt, this is the second straight week this has happened to him. I hate to say it, but our O-line could be even worse than it is, Philly’s.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I didn't watch the Philly game, so I'll take your word on that

But Jay is a tough SOB himself. There’s been times where he’s gotten hit late, and the refs don’t call that shit because of the reputation we’ve built up for having a crap o-line. Imagine if Vick was under center last year for us.

by Midway Bully on Sep 25, 2011 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would have been crazy

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

must have been the mid-post nap but I tought someone was thinking about firing Martz and promoting Tice

but a loss is a loss whether you run and lose or pass and lose

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I take responsibility for claiming Tice should be considered for the OC job

And I will stand by my opinion.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

well if your going to fire your OC after 3 games at the beginning of the season

it makes viable candidates for his position rather limited,

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only because his superior is forcing his offense upon his staff

Tice deserves some blame, but not all of it.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

The nice thing about being retired is not having to try and make all my bosses ideals work out.

But he had a boss too, everyone does. I just can’t think of any reason I would want to promote Tice to OC it is hard enough to rationalize the OL not being his fault.

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some of it is his fault

But when you ask your O-Lineman to pass protect 35-40 to as many as 50 times a game, with no balance, against top rated DCs, it is very hard to not surrender sacks.

Not 1 sack was surrendered in the 1st half. When Martz was figured out, I think 3 sacks were surrendered. The fall, for the most part, is on Mike Martz.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't most NFL teams ask their OL to pass protexct 35-40 times per game?

I’m not bringing this up just to start an argument, but really most teams come out throwing get a lead then run the ball. balanced stats after the game is complete doesn’t mean balanced playcalling during the game.

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not most

Definitely not most. And if such, they also make a commitment to running the ball on early downs.

Most teams would throw in 10 more running plays if they plan on throwing it a bunch.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

the NFL average last year was 34 times per game and 40 for GB

our problem is that our running game is as unpredictable as our passing game. We average 2 yards per carry most of the time with an occasional big play by Forte that brings that average up but still leaves a lot of 2nd and 3rd and longs which puts more pressure on Mad Martz to call a pass when if fewer yards are needed running plays are more acceptable.

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

... Dammit Ed, you and I go from yelling at eachother to being in damn lockstep.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 25, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't yelling at you Steve why would I yell at you as long as you keep off the lawn.

in fact I am trying to get in touch with my inner meatball I am trying to train myself to blame Martz every time a player screws the pooch.

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

linemen suck

Tice is not a miracle worker. Martz however should just run the ball a bit more.

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by T.Moore on Sep 25, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

It can't help that the line and its backups are

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by ThorCo on Sep 26, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

IIRC

his offense usually rates high in both sacks allowed and int’s

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sacks yes. But I could have sworn Bulger and Warner were efficient.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well they were efficient

Yet still threw their fair share of ints.

And both were sacked a ton of times.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

They had a young Orlando Pace

Torry holt, Isaac Bruce and Az Hakim to throw to and a young Marshal Faulk behind them

of course they were effecient

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Efficient as in not that many picks. 99 Warner had less than ten picks or so.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

like i said

he also had Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce and Marshal Faulk.

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

That doesn't ensure catches....and Marhall* Faulk ran the ball and blocked as well.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Forte can't block, run and catch on every down and we don't have Bruce or Holt.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

or a young Pace./Timmerman to anchor the Oline

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

sure as hell makes it much easier

when you have an OLine that is well above average, multiple receivers who are Pro Bowl worthy, and an all world RB

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

They had a HoF left tackle at that..

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

and IMHO a HOF Qb (Warner)

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Debateable. Was it his teammates or he that did it?

Three Hall of fame skill guys and then Fitzgerald who (as we saw today) can catch anything, makes everything easy.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great playoff guy, but Big Ben or Kerry Collins don't get in.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

He doesn't have the talent. He does what he can.

Same with Martz for the most part. Martz doesn’t even crack the top 10 as far as reasons we lost.

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by gafferland on Sep 25, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

No it's cuz we don't have enough white receivers

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ricky Proehl was boss vs Tampa in the NFC championship game.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn't even crack the top 10?

He is definitely one of the top 3 reasons we lost.

No second half adjustments, the D gives them opportunities to make a comback yet fail to capitalize on most of them, refuses to get Matt Forte more involved in the game.

Mike Martz is a stubborn fool. I am done supporting him. If he was such a great coach, then it shouldn’t matter too much as to what he is provided. As a coach, he has to adapt his playcalling to his personel. And in year 2 of the system, he has failed to do so.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

True but we shot ourselves in the foot with dam penalties

How do u run the ball when u start the drives 1st &15, yea you can run the ball but the way the line would run block we would get minimal gains leading to more throwing

by BEARSFAN19 on Sep 25, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

As an OC responisble for his offense

He must also preach discipline.

And again he didn’t try anything to the outside. All his calls were to the inside.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Martz is too predictable

which only hurts the entire offense on the field

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

The predictable thing is that the routes take way too long to run and the deep in can be covered.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

and they know he will abandon the run game

allowing the D to drop 6+ making it that much easier for them

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

and NO i am not saying the run game wins today

dont confuse the two thoughts

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

his system and the players do not match up

Martz is out dated IMHO. He is the standard tv while the defenses he is dealing with are high def.

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

The deep In was a trademark route of the system and that can be shut down.

The Tampa-2 is outdated but still works.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Deep/complicated routes, deep drops and and pass pass pass

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

here's a fun fact:

the bears, under mike martz, had the fewest pass attempts in the nfl last year.

by mick11 on Sep 25, 2011 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

and somehow still had a million sacks given up

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

que?

i have no clue how you get to that in anything i said

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because they also went 3 and Out more than any other team

Because of his lopsided playcalling.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

according to

this link we were in the middle of the pack in TOP averaging 29 minutes a game

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which was still not good enough

And it doesn’t explain for all the 3-and-Outs

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree 110%

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

remember that's 29 oo 60 not on the sunny side of average.

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only when he was probably threatened with his job

Try the 1st half of the season for the evidence on the true Mike Martz

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

this will pain many of us

but I have heard on 670 the Score that JA didnt want Martz, Lovie insisted on him

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by ThorCo on Sep 26, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lovie wants an offense that can score points and give his D a chance to play with a lead

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

and on a whole

how has that worked out? I would say it hasnt worked as well as hoped but most

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

hasn'

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

So

Does this mean Jerry didn’t have much confidence to begin with?

And would this be the final straw needed for him to give Martz the pink slip?

Look, we all know I’ve supported Martz. But these two loses because of the poor overall play of the offense is unacceptable.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think this would be a reason to walk

JA and Martz can walk shortly after.

JA let Lovie over ride him on the OC

sounds like Hendry letting the coaches tell him what moves to make, instead of the opposite

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

and FWIW

they also were 22 in rushing attempts

how much of that is due to not enough TOP? Is there a stat for where the Bears were in TOP available?

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I always go back to implementing a Niner west coast O in. The Bears

have similar skill sets minus Jerry Rice.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I always go back to implementing a Niner west coast O in. The Bears

have similar skill sets minus Jerry Rice.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh noes, not Turner for the turd time.

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by ed_brown on Sep 25, 2011 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

ABT

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by ThorCo on Sep 26, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

ABT

I like that

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by ed_brown on Sep 27, 2011 6:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

good call

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

And the favorable matchup of the Seahawks.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who had crushed the Saints.

I bet the Saints were happy to be facing the Seahawks too.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 25, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would rather have had the Saints or the Hawks? Much more confident against the Hawks despite the Saints woes on the road during the playoffs.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just saying don't disparage them because they were 7-9 in the regular season.

They destroyed a pretty good playoff team; they were definitely capable.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 25, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think more credit for that goes to the Defense

like when Rex led the bears to the SB. The Bears got there inspite of REx

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some

But not all

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

i disagree

and for prime example will point to the win in AZ. He was hardly average over all.

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

The first 6 games he was pretty decent. Can't get to the Bowl if you don't win at least some of the six games.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

what sizx games were you watching?

in those six games he was decent that includes a passer rating of 10.2 and 64.9

there was NOTHING consistent about him

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

thank you

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't say he was consistent. Said he was decent, which he was against Det, Buf and Sea

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also had a 98 QB rating in Green Bay week one. Which was the lowest of the four games mentioned.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

so now you are changing your argument

from the first 6 to the first 4, well lets not forget three he was 10 or below during the season

and 5 times (approx 1/3 of the season) under 40

or that he twice threw for less than 40 TOTAL yards in the game.

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

4 of 6 not first four.

Look, all I am saying is that he helped us win those games and was decent. Nothing more.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

and i would say the Bears won in 2006

inspite of him more often than they did cuz of him. IMHO you are over valuing him that season

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't say he was good all year, I know he was bad

But he helped us at some point.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

i never said he didnt help any

but i am saying he is not why we won and got to the SB. Most often the defense bailed his out after a pick

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

you said the first 6

which i would say he was in 4 of the 6 not in all 6

23 TD and 20 INT does not point to him being a reason we won quite often

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I said the first six he was decent.

98, 148, 100 and 101 were pretty good ratings.

He had 9 tds and one pick in those four. I would say he helped them win at that time.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

he was not decent the first six

he was horrific in 2 of those first six, you then pointed to four games (i.e. moving the goal posts) wanting to dismiss the two he did nothing.

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Horrific? Minnesota was not horrific.

And decent does not denote good or great. I was simply pointing out that he did help us at some point. (Which you seemed to have ignored)

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

inside the box?

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by Cubbie-Tim on Sep 25, 2011 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Simple

Stay to what worked. Roll outs and screens along with pitches and far more effective plays.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

and more white receivers

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by suckmyditka on Sep 25, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

can we turn Steltz to WR?

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by Claudio Oliveira on Sep 25, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Suit Ditka up. He has the fire we want.

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by Shuggs on Sep 25, 2011 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

WR reverses

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by ThorCo on Sep 26, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Disicipline shouldn't fall solely on Martz's shoulders

There is a reason why we have a head coach, and why there are specific position coaches. Blame Darryl Drake, blame Mike Tice, blame Lovie, they all had as much to do with the penalties as Martz.

by Midway Bully on Sep 25, 2011 9:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

But where the hell do we go from here then?

Yeah I know it’s a damn mess, and it’s a damn shame. But do we really want to bring in another OC, even if it is Tice (who has no history as an OC), and risk screwing everything up again? The problem here is the fact that not only do we not have continuity as far as our offensive scheme goes, we also don’t have any continuity in regards to the o-line, wide receivers, TEs etc. All of these things are related. If one of those areas falters, it may not be as big a deal, but the Bears are in a flux at nearly every aspect of the offense.

Honestly this is what we have, and all we can do right now is hope to improve at the season goes along. The real culprit here is the front office, which gave our coaches minimal resources to work with on the offensive side of the ball. I’ve said it a bunch of times, you get an average o-line, average WRs, and I guarantee you that this scheme will work. We have the QB, the RB and nothing else, and both players at those positions aren’t getting any younger.

by Midway Bully on Sep 25, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tice wasn't an OC, you sir are correct

But, he was also the head coach who made the calls for his offense while he was with the Vikes. Playcalling is not something foreign to him.

He probably has a fair understanding of our offensive playbook, so we wouldn’t be starting over from scratch.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because

it’s bad enough the talent level is crap, Martz leaves these guys hanging with these stupid play calls.

Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance this week over Rodgers crumpled on the turf

by tfrabotta on Sep 25, 2011 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Disapointing loss

Also, what the hell was the flag for on that punt return by Knox? I still haven’t figured that out.

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by JoeCB1991 on Sep 25, 2011 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Revenge for the nail they pulled out of the turf.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 25, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

The nail

was Cutler’s fault. Ditka. It was such a beautiful play too. I counted 7 Packers just staring at Hester…

by Beer Down! on Sep 25, 2011 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Pack lucked out

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't heard any explanation on it but when they showed the replay that showed Knox field the ball

you could see the flag was already on the ground so my guess is Graham held the gunner that was coming down the field before Knox even caught it. Just an aside, it was a great catch of the punt over his shoulder and staying in bounds by Knox.

by BearFan611 on Sep 25, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too bad he can't catch a pass on 4th and 4

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by suckmyditka on Sep 26, 2011 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lol.. Nice, but i don't think it has anything to do with that

I think ALL of the Bear WRs suck. None of them would be better than a 3rd WR on any other team.

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by suckmyditka on Sep 26, 2011 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Possibly a #2, but generally I agree...

it’s like I said somewhere else in this post, Darryl Drake needs to be called out. It seems to be an impossibility that every WR the Bears have had either through the draft or Free Agency for his 7 years have no ability to catch consistantly, screen DB’s, get separation, etc. At some point you need to look at the common denominator.

by BearFan611 on Sep 26, 2011 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jerry, too…

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by Spongie on Sep 27, 2011 4:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lost in all the bitching about the phantom hold on the punt return....

is the pure genius of the play itself. I’ve never seen that in 50 years of watching football and it was brilliant. Watch film of any punt and you will see that none of the kicking team except the punter has any idea where the ball is. Everyone is looking at the deep man to see where the ball is going. The ball was 50 yards from where the defense was swarming to and only a phantom holding call ruined the resulting easy touchdown for the bears. The sad thing is, it will never work again since every coach in the nfl will now be ready for it. It was pure genius.

by mick11 on Sep 25, 2011 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Once again

This game is on Angelo. Get a WR, listen to the damn masses that we need a WR. Roy shouldnt be here, Knox is a dissappointment and Sanzenbaka is the only one that looks better than Knox and Hester and hes an UDFA…Hell the pass blocking wasnt that bad we are 1 B Marsh away from having a consistent offense. FUUUUUU

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by T.Moore on Sep 25, 2011 9:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Some thoughts on balance

Some seem to be complaining about balance, some seem to say if Forte is not getting any room to run, why bother? I gotta tell ya, I truly believe he needed to touch the ball more and here is why:

- Grant had 8 rushes for 2 yards or less today. Still ended up for 92 on 17 carries. Not every run is a winner.

- Speaking of balance, how many right up the gut runs did the Bears run today? Heck, I am certain all of their runs were between the tackles. Try running a sweep or pitch play way to the outside.

- When you don’t have much of a backup runner, why not try one of our speedy receivers on a reverse?

- IF you don’t want to run, how about some screens? Forte ended up with 7 receptions, but with only 9 carries, 7 receptions is not enough. 16 touches for the Bears best offensive player? Give him the ball!

Bottom line, running 9 up the middle runs unsuccessfully does not variety make. If he truly tried every run in the book, then fine. But this was the same old shit veiled as “trying” to run. And if it really won’t work, find another way to get Forte the ball. Martz needs to realize that while he may have the QB and RB to run his system, the O-line and receiver corps simply can’t get the job done.

On another note, who wants JA to call up Randy Moss and hope for the best?

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by DRose01 on Sep 25, 2011 10:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Except we fans ain't the only ones unhappy with the "balance" of the offense

This current player who happens to wear #6 ain’t such a happy camper himself.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 25, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Season is over

time to get rid of Angelo (you cannot draft a damn you worthless $%^@&**#!)

and Martz (you suck as an OC)

get rid of everyone in the O-line except for Spencer and Carimi

put Hester back as a return specialist and nothing more

release C Williams, Steltz, Webb, YourBoyRoy Williams and Wright. Those guys cannot play.

by Gaak on Sep 25, 2011 11:04 PM CDT reply actions  

The Season is NOT over

We lost two in a row to probably the two best teams in the NFC and coincidentally the past 2 SB winners. I hardly see this as season over. Everyone else is going to seem easy in comparison after this tough stretch. Look, everyone knew this was going to be a bear of an opener, these 3 games. We did beat ATL, the team considered by many to be the 3rd best team in the NFC. The guys who wrote our schedule must of really had it in for us, otherwise lets all take a deep breath and relax. We beat Carolina next week and we are a respectable 2-2. This is by far the hardest stretch for this team, 1-2 aint bad considering our opponents.

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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Sep 26, 2011 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone relax and take a chill pill

We beat CAR next weekend and we are 2-2, I don’t think GB is going to go 16-0 and know DET isnt going 16-0 so we are still very much in this. Lets all take a few steps back from the ledge and rethink things. Anyway it could be worse, we could be the Vikings!!!!

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by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Sep 26, 2011 1:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Some thoughts

As usual against the Packers, the game was lost on small details, not because the plan was flawed or we were completely outclassed.

Awful game from Cutler, with too many overthrows while having decent-ish protection. Before the first game I said I wanted him to have at least 230YPG… somehow, I’m not happy with his second >300 game. Receivers were only on the same page for about 5 plays. As long as our poor broke man’s Wes Welker continues to get the attention an UFA deserves, he should get a TD every now and then.

Hard to get a running game going without getting a footing. Martz and Tice need to have a talk to figure out a solution to this. It’s not all on Martz, tbh I wouldn’t call that many running plays if they’re all going nowhere, either.

I don’t think this was a good game by the defense. Some crucial stops, but they still let almost 400 yards go through. Rush defense seemed slow, bad coverage deep in the secondary.

Injuries are killing us. Last year we were fortunate enough to have everyone important healthy for most of the season.

I tip my hat to Toub. That trick punt return would be one of the plays of the season if the refs didn’t panic when they saw the Packers completely baffled. Expect the NFL to rule all balls fair-catched if any player on the field waves it. Heavens forbid the all-mighty Packers being played this dumb again.

Speaking of zebras, yesterday they were crappy once again,. I’m surprised they didn’t throw Hester out of the game with the punch after being mauled.

To finish, Vick quit the game with a non-throwing broken hand, and threw a hissy fit on not being protected by refs. Will anyone make the same spectacle as it was with Cutler?

by lmfsilva on Sep 26, 2011 6:08 AM CDT reply actions  

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